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(UPDATE)Hand Well Pump - Just Bought it today-What if SickScent is right?

 
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(UPDATE)Hand Well Pump - Just Bought it today-What if SickScent is right?
Update 2 - 40 feet down I hit the torque arrestor....got to start all over and pull my pump up to cut the torque arrestor.

Update 2 - got it fixed and pumping BOOOOOYAAAAAAA

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The Simple Pump™ Hand-Operated Water Pump
So easy to use, a child can pump up to 5 gallons per minute...

So durable, it has a 50-year lifespan...

So affordable, you can install it anywhere you need safe drinking water...

Simple Pump is a hand water pump that works as a reliable backup right beside your existing submersible well pump. Or use as the primary water pump, hand-operated or solar-driven motor.




Simple Pump™ uses a pump rod design to give you advantages not seen in other comparable lever-arm pumps.



PUMPING DEPTH

Standard 24-inch handle
With the standard 24" handle, this hand-operated Simple Pump requires such little force to operate, it easily pumps 5 gallons per minute from depths up to about 300 feet - and water comes out of your household spigot at normal pressure.

Optional 36-inch handle
Tested on a 120-foot deep well with 70 foot static water level, the 36" handle decreased the required pumping force from 8 lbs to 4. This decreased effort means you can pump from further down - from about 350-400 feet! Pumping from 400 feet, you need just 24 lbs of force!

[Note: These depth figures are for water delivered at the pump head. If you are pumping (for example) fifty feet uphill to your house, the required force for that part will decrease the depth below ground from which you can pump.]

Freeze-proof
We have pumps operating 24/7 without difficulty in high-wind, freezing temperatures reaching -30°F.

Extremely low-cost to maintain
Depending on the model, only 4 or 5 parts ever need replacing: the piston u-cup & rod gland seals in the pump head. What's more, Simple Pump is so tough you only need to replace those small parts once every 5 years. On average, your maintenance costs $25 every five years.

Reliable
It has a 50-year useful life, and comes with a 5-year parts guarantee. Simple Pump has an exceptionally long life because it is constructed from durable materials that resist wear and tear from daily use.

Safe
The only metal making contact with the water is completely lead-free, CNC-machined stainless steel. And all components are Safe Drinking Water Act compliant.

We understand it's crucial a pump works when you need it
We took all the benefits of traditional hand pumps - and improved them. Then they took all the disadvantages - and got rid of them.

The result... an incredibly durable and efficient water pump that lasts for generations.

Last Edited by aVian on 04/19/2010 04:50 PM
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food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Frédéric Bastiat

food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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My local well man claims he's never seen one work on a casing deeper than 80 feet?

Too shallow to drink, without a Berkey Filter, or similar.
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Nice- that looks very cool.
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Are the holes drilled to fit standard well caps?

Very nice.
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I so wish I could put a well on my meager 2 acres of land. I did look into doing a drive point well myself in 2008, but the granite where I am is about 3 feet down.

I called the local well diggers for an estimate and it was in the thousands more than I have to spend. So it's water tanks, filters, and purifiers for me.
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Are the holes drilled to fit standard well caps?

Very nice.
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yes meant to fit a standard 4, 6 or 8 inch pipe with offset electric too

just incase Sickscent is right
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food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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May I ask how much you paid for yours and what size did you order? Also how long did they say it takes for shipping?
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May I ask how much you paid for yours and what size did you order? Also how long did they say it takes for shipping?
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total came to

========= GENERAL INFORMATION =========

Merchant : Simple Pump Company
Date/Time : 07-Apr-2010 01.51.27 PM
Transaction ID : 2929014528

========= ORDER INFORMATION =========
Invoice Number : 4575
Description : Simple Pump model 125L pump system Total : US $1264.00 Payment Method : American Express

Last Edited by aVian on 04/07/2010 02:22 PM
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Frédéric Bastiat

food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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$1264 for a handpump? Rediculous.

I'm sure you could find better. It has a much better design than the old style pumps.
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$1264 for a handpump? Rediculous.

I'm sure you could find better. It has a much better design than the old style pumps.
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its the best...trust me

google hand well pumps and you figure it out
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- Frédéric Bastiat

food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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Their prices could be inflated due to some government contracts.

These cast iron models are less than two hundred.
[link to cgi.ebay.com]
Often made in China these days.
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Thank you for the information.

I have a 106 ft. well and was told I could never get a hand pump for it....

Many thanks!
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Their prices could be inflated due to some government contracts.

These cast iron models are less than two hundred.
[link to cgi.ebay.com]
Often made in China these days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 928228



you guys need to understand what pumps are like and what components you need to make it work

this is a double acting pressurized hand pump capable of developing upwards of 60 psi to back feed a house if necessary.

It is also compatible with a 12 volt solar pump motor as a retrofit

this is not grandmas cast iron pump in a 10 foot hand dug well

this is for going down a hundred feet or more.

rant off
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food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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The physical water pump is a great thing but do you have the spiritual water brother?

On the last day of the feast, the great day, Jesus stood up and cried out, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
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Cool now all the zombie horde neighbors will have access to water chuckle
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May I ask how much you paid for yours and what size did you order? Also how long did they say it takes for shipping?


total came to

========= GENERAL INFORMATION =========

Merchant : Simple Pump Company
Date/Time : 07-Apr-2010 01.51.27 PM
Transaction ID : 2929014528

========= ORDER INFORMATION =========
Invoice Number : 4575
Description : Simple Pump model 125L pump system Total : US $1264.00 Payment Method : American Express
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Thanks for the Info. I'll consider it! hf
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lol. i was laying in bed last night thinking about hand pumps, and no it wasn't porn related. but i have been looking at all the large capacity gravity filtration systems, which i want to mount over a 100 gallon poly tank, with a hand pump feeding into it
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The check balls pitted and fail within three months, they replaced the first set but, said it was my well water, never replaced them again. SS does not pit, crome plated iron does. pump rods jam and warp the plactic guides, so be careful. Have the 12 volt motor and head attachment, (it's cool it looks like a mini oil well pump)
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Extreme water bottles are excellent...one filter will do 500 gallons...if he is right and you survive---it`ll be utopia..
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The check balls pitted and fail within three months, they replaced the first set but, said it was my well water, never replaced them again. SS does not pit, crome plated iron does. pump rods jam and warp the plactic guides, so be careful. Have the 12 volt motor and head attachment, (it's cool it looks like a mini oil well pump)
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you have one?
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Frédéric Bastiat

food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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Avian,

Think you were snookered. For $1264 you have all sorts of options. Even "grandma's pitcher pump" will lift from 100'.

If you have a solar panel or two plus a few golfcart batteries and a halfway decent inverter, you could run a 1.5 to 2hp Jacuzzi or other real well pump. Just be sure you can energize the stator on the pump to get it going. On a 2hp pump that means about 5kw. Once moving, your current demand drops by 2/3 or 75%.

Pressurize your house with a handpump? just ludicrous.

For $1300 you could buy a Cistern and put it on a platform, pump your water to the cistern and have gravity feed.

Running your pump into a 2500gal cistern makes a lot of sense. You always know you will have water. Not like you need a high HP rated pump anyway, just enough to get a couple gals per minute going into your cistern. An above ground swimming pool makes a decent cistern IF you can keep leaves, bugs and dirt etc out. Maybe a floating framework to support a nylon or plastic cover?


Lots of options on water supplies.

Nothing wrong with spending money on tools that make living easier.
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There are many above ground lift pumps that can be adapted to many sources of power. You're looking for one that is belt-drive so you can use electric motor or other means to turn the lift impeller. Might be able to use a bicycle gear set on a stand? Easy to rebuild and cheap to run.

Lehmans in Ohio, if they are still in business, probably has some of these gizmos.

Might be able to fit a jobsite trash-water pump to your well. Runs on gasoline. 2.25" or larger hookups. Pump to a cistern and clean the pump with a bleach or vinegar solution if worried about potability.

Do you have a household reservoir filter?
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The check balls pitted and fail within three months, they replaced the first set but, said it was my well water, never replaced them again. SS does not pit, crome plated iron does. pump rods jam and warp the plactic guides, so be careful. Have the 12 volt motor and head attachment, (it's cool it looks like a mini oil well pump)



you have one?
 Quoting: aVian

Yep got one ten years ago, Y2K, well deep 80 feet, does work, replace the check balls with ping pong balls or large marbles. I got tired of pulling the pipe and unthreading them so I replaced the whole pipe with 1 1/4 black poly, hung it from a saftey chain (rope) worked better. keep the little metal joints away from the plactic guides with a foot or so extention. I used a 10 foot final pvc. Be prepared to be have a bit of water spray in your face, the top seal will leak where the pump rod comes from the top.

The checkballs are the weakest part, then the plastic guides, everything else is solid.
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I got a motorhome water pump to pressurize the house from my 2000 liter storage tank. Works great and runs off 12vdc from the solar panels.
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Are the holes drilled to fit standard well caps?

Very nice.
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Yep, its machined from a single aluminum blank disc. When I replaced my simple pump handpump with a full electric (finally got power) The well guy said it was the nicest he'd seen, but he also used the whole for the simplepump head as the main exit from the well head so I'm screwed without him! Waiting for the 120v well pump to need to be replaced and I will be there to be sure that part is not used.
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Extreme water bottles are excellent...one filter will do 500 gallons...if he is right and you survive---it`ll be utopia..
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Still have my Dalton water filter from Y2K, at the max filter rate of 20G a day it should last me until I'm 90.

each candle is rate 30,000G
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Avian,

Think you were snookered. For $1264 you have all sorts of options. Even "grandma's pitcher pump" will lift from 100'.

If you have a solar panel or two plus a few golfcart batteries and a halfway decent inverter, you could run a 1.5 to 2hp Jacuzzi or other real well pump. Just be sure you can energize the stator on the pump to get it going. On a 2hp pump that means about 5kw. Once moving, your current demand drops by 2/3 or 75%.

Pressurize your house with a handpump? just ludicrous.

For $1300 you could buy a Cistern and put it on a platform, pump your water to the cistern and have gravity feed.

Running your pump into a 2500gal cistern makes a lot of sense. You always know you will have water. Not like you need a high HP rated pump anyway, just enough to get a couple gals per minute going into your cistern. An above ground swimming pool makes a decent cistern IF you can keep leaves, bugs and dirt etc out. Maybe a floating framework to support a nylon or plastic cover?


Lots of options on water supplies.

Nothing wrong with spending money on tools that make living easier.
 Quoting: Lester


definatly here ya lester...I would never pressurize the house long term but could. I would get a tank or fill the upstairs bath tub if I had too.

I just didnt want to install a couple of Sunny Islands (sunnyboy inverter mod) for my existing grid tie system to run the well in an extended power outage. Now I can just have 1 sunny island and just power the lights and burner circuit...all single phase.
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- Frédéric Bastiat

food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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I've got one of the old school cast iron jobs that I've hooked up to my 70' irrigation well. The water is sandy, but potable. It was the only well here when I bought the place, and the previous owners lived on it for 30 years.

I had a deeper one put in, about 230', but I didn't think any hand pump was capable of pulling it up that far.
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I've got one of the old school cast iron jobs that I've hooked up to my 70' irrigation well. The water is sandy, but potable. It was the only well here when I bought the place, and the previous owners lived on it for 30 years.

I had a deeper one put in, about 230', but I didn't think any hand pump was capable of pulling it up that far.
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What Can a Simple Pump™ Do?
How deep can Simple Pump pump from?
Because of Simple Pump's™ mechanical lever arm design, the average person can easily pump from depths up to 200 feet. We estimate that the maximum effective pumping depth is approximately 300 feet due to accumulated sucker rod stretch.

How much water does it pump?
Pumping rates from the Simple Pump vary directly with the frequency and length of strokes of the lever arm. In normal operation, Simple Pump™ delivers up to 5 gallons per minute.

How hard is it to pump water?
With the Simple Pump, pumping water from normal depths is easy. The lever handle that is standard equipment with our pump system works on common leverage principles and provides a leverage ratio of 3.3:1. The actual force required is dependent on the total length of drop pipe assembly. For a standard installation of 100 feet, it takes approximately 12 pounds of downward force - a child can easily do this. At 200 feet, it takes approximately 24 pounds of downward force.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Frédéric Bastiat

food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck





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