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Rachel Maddow Tears Breitbart's ACORN Tapes Apart - Fox Noise Busted Again

 
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The full segment can be seen at the link below.

Rachel Maddow Exposes Fox News’ ‘Bogus’ Coverage Of ACORN

by Glynnis MacNicol | 9:14 am, April 7th, 2010

Rachel Maddow may well on her way to establishing herself as the preeminent mainstream media watchdog after last night. Her calm, thorough, twelve minute evisceration (sorry Jon Stewart, but it was) of the ACORN scandal was a far more damning commentary on the laziness and gullibility of the media and the questionable intentions of Fox News in general than it was an expose of how James O’Keefe et al. faked much of their now infamous report with “highly selective editing of reality.”

Using last week’s California attorney general’s report on the ACORN tapes as well as the unedited video Maddow compares the news that was reported, primarily on Fox, but eventually elsewhere also, with what actually happened. Needless to say you could drive a Mack truck through the two. For example the ACORN employee accused by O’Keefe and Giles (and “evidenced” by the edited tapes) of advising them on how to smuggle prostitutes into the country, actually immediately called the police once the two had left the office. Side note: Tommy Christopher notes a timeline discrepancy between the attorney general’s report, which says the employee called the police immediately and the the AP’s report last fall which said he waited two days…either way he was fired. Additionally, the ACORN employee who was apparently encouraging Giles to start a prostitution business? Turns out she was encouraging Giles not to give up looking for financing for housing.

Maddow, who doesn’t let ACORN off the hook for its other legal misdemeanors, reserves her most damning commentary for Fox:

I know it must shock you but it turns out Fox News was not giving its viewers an accurate portrayal of exactly how these two activists portrayed themselves when they went into the ACORN office…the huge tide of negative publicity that followed these tapes and the coverage they got on Fox, wall-to-wall for months, was bull-pucky. It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts of what happened in those offices.

But it worked, Maddow points out. “Means be damned, it worked…who do you think is next on their list?” Video below. Side note again: Interestingly, Maddow didn’t once mention Andrew Breitbart, which did not in any way keep him from furiously Twittering and RT-ing all comers following the show.

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It would be nice if someone were to right a book on this whole sordid affair, i.e., the right's orchestrated attack to delegetimize this organization.
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It would be nice if someone were to right a book on this whole sordid affair, i.e., the right's orchestrated attack to delegetimize this organization.
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yeah it's clear you're a leftist
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It would be nice if someone were to right a book on this whole sordid affair, i.e., the right's orchestrated attack to delegetimize this organization.


yeah it's clear you're a leftist
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Oops...trying to do too many things at once I guess. Thanks for pointing out the errors.

That prior post should have read "It would be nice if someone were to write a book on this whole sordid affair, i.e., the right's orchestrated attack to delegitimize this organization."

Again, thanks for the bump!
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Rachel Maddow, McCarthyite

The FBI, the left, and the war on "extremism"

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and you probably think keith olbermzn is an award winning reporter
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This story is gaining some traction today. (I wonder if Fox Noise will respond.)

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Maddow: Raw footage reveals O’Keefe lied about ACORN tapes

By David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Wednesday, April 7th, 2010 -- 12:08 pm

When conservative activists James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles released tapes last fall purporting to show ACORN employees advising them on how to set up a child prostitution ring, it resulted in widespread praise for their intrepid journalism and a Congressional defunding of the anti-poverty group. But it is now becoming clear to all but their most fervent supporters that the O'Keefe "expose" was deliberately misleading.

"If you were a member of Congress and you voted to defund ACORN because of the outrage portrayed in these tapes," MSNBC's Rachel Maddow proclaimed on Tuesday, "you were had."

Last week, California Attorney Gerneral Jerry Brown released some of O'Keefe's raw footage, which he obtained as part of an agreement not to prosecute O'Keefe for violating state privacy laws. Maddow reviewed several of the most severe distortions revealed by the footage, starting with O'Keefe's claim that he was wearing his outrageous pimp outfit when he visited the ACORN offices.

That claim, which Brad Friedman at Brad Blog has been debunking for months, was promoted heavily by Fox News and swallowed uncritically by most of the mainstream media. The unedited tape of O'Keefe's visit to the ACORN office in San Diego, however, includes a shot of his arm as he opens the door to leave, and he is clearly wearing a nicely pinstriped dress shirt.

The edited video released by O'Keefe also appears to show an ACORN employee advising him on how to smuggle underage girls into the United States. O'Keefe is heard off-camera saying, "What things do you need from me in terms of the shipment information," and the employee replies, "It's better if it's in Tijuana ... because I have a lot of contacts in Tijuana." O'Keefe then goes on to say, "There's twelve of them. ... Twelve girls, they're like 13 to 15 years old."

But as Maddow pointed out, in the previously unreleased portion of the video, the employee continues asking very detailed questions about O'Keefe's phone number and the exact time and location of the girls' arrival. "What's this ACORN guy going to do with all that information?" Maddow wondered. "Oh, he calls the police and reports what they've told him is going to be a crime."

According to Jerry Brown's report (pdf), "Immediately after the couple left, Vera telephoned his cousin, Detective Alejandro Hernandez, at the National City Police Department... [and said] that a self-admitted prostitute had been to the office and was discussing human smuggling."

"For that he ended up getting fired," Maddow noted wryly.

A final O'Keefe tape appeared to show a different ACORN employee reacting to the child prostitution scheme by saying enthusiastically, "You can do anything. ... Don't give up."

But the unedited tape reveals that the encouraging words came after O'Keefe had told the employee that he and his prostitute girlfriend were having trouble finding a house because she is "in a unique line of work." Her "never give up" meant to keep trying different banks until one said yes.

"This is not meant to excuse what ACORN has done wrong in the past," Maddow concluded. "But the huge tide of negative publicity ... was bullpucky. It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts. "

"But it worked," she added. "Who do you think is next on their list?"

This video is from MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show, broadcast April 6, 2010.
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and you probably think keith olbermzn is an award winning reporter
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Why would I think that, even given a loose interpretation of the term "reporter"?
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Don't really care if it's bogus.

Look at the victim. :-)
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This story is gaining some traction today. (I wonder if Fox Noise will respond.)

[link to rawstory.com]

Maddow: Raw footage reveals O’Keefe lied about ACORN tapes

By David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Wednesday, April 7th, 2010 -- 12:08 pm

When conservative activists James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles released tapes last fall purporting to show ACORN employees advising them on how to set up a child prostitution ring, it resulted in widespread praise for their intrepid journalism and a Congressional defunding of the anti-poverty group. But it is now becoming clear to all but their most fervent supporters that the O'Keefe "expose" was deliberately misleading.

"If you were a member of Congress and you voted to defund ACORN because of the outrage portrayed in these tapes," MSNBC's Rachel Maddow proclaimed on Tuesday, "you were had."

Last week, California Attorney Gerneral Jerry Brown released some of O'Keefe's raw footage, which he obtained as part of an agreement not to prosecute O'Keefe for violating state privacy laws. Maddow reviewed several of the most severe distortions revealed by the footage, starting with O'Keefe's claim that he was wearing his outrageous pimp outfit when he visited the ACORN offices.

That claim, which Brad Friedman at Brad Blog has been debunking for months, was promoted heavily by Fox News and swallowed uncritically by most of the mainstream media. The unedited tape of O'Keefe's visit to the ACORN office in San Diego, however, includes a shot of his arm as he opens the door to leave, and he is clearly wearing a nicely pinstriped dress shirt.

The edited video released by O'Keefe also appears to show an ACORN employee advising him on how to smuggle underage girls into the United States. O'Keefe is heard off-camera saying, "What things do you need from me in terms of the shipment information," and the employee replies, "It's better if it's in Tijuana ... because I have a lot of contacts in Tijuana." O'Keefe then goes on to say, "There's twelve of them. ... Twelve girls, they're like 13 to 15 years old."

But as Maddow pointed out, in the previously unreleased portion of the video, the employee continues asking very detailed questions about O'Keefe's phone number and the exact time and location of the girls' arrival. "What's this ACORN guy going to do with all that information?" Maddow wondered. "Oh, he calls the police and reports what they've told him is going to be a crime."

According to Jerry Brown's report (pdf), "Immediately after the couple left, Vera telephoned his cousin, Detective Alejandro Hernandez, at the National City Police Department... [and said] that a self-admitted prostitute had been to the office and was discussing human smuggling."

"For that he ended up getting fired," Maddow noted wryly.

A final O'Keefe tape appeared to show a different ACORN employee reacting to the child prostitution scheme by saying enthusiastically, "You can do anything. ... Don't give up."

But the unedited tape reveals that the encouraging words came after O'Keefe had told the employee that he and his prostitute girlfriend were having trouble finding a house because she is "in a unique line of work." Her "never give up" meant to keep trying different banks until one said yes.

"This is not meant to excuse what ACORN has done wrong in the past," Maddow concluded. "But the huge tide of negative publicity ... was bullpucky. It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts. "

"But it worked," she added. "Who do you think is next on their list?"

This video is from MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show, broadcast April 6, 2010.
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Lied? I think the videos were pretty self explanatory.
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Imagine that! Don't suppose it has anything to do with the ratings war do you? Hope Rachel knows how to tread water!

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and you probably think keith olbermzn is an award winning reporter
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I think K O should be an award winning reporter.

His first speech about his dying father was great

Also I believed he did receve one for his speech on days.
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Don't really care if it's bogus.

Look at the victim. :-)
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Then I guesws you'll feel right at home watching Faux News.

This Maddow quote bears repeating:

"It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts."
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Don't really care if it's bogus.

Look at the victim. :-)


Then I guesws you'll feel right at home watching Faux News.

This Maddow quote bears repeating:

"It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts."
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*guess
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Lied? I think the videos were pretty self explanatory.
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You're right. The unedited ones were pretty damning to O'Keefe, Breitbart and by complicity, Fox Noise.
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"According to Jerry Brown's report (pdf), "Immediately after the couple left, Vera telephoned his cousin, Detective Alejandro Hernandez, at the National City Police Department... [and said] that a self-admitted prostitute had been to the office and was discussing human smuggling."

"For that he ended up getting fired," Maddow noted wryly."

I wonder why the only guy who tried to do anything about this was fired. By ACORN. And why did ACORN change its name to Community Organizations International, and a few other names in various states? Sound like something a criminal would do.
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The last I checked it was O'Keefe and his pals that had committed the criminal acts.

Here's an update about their apparent plea deals....

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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The last I checked it was O'Keefe and his pals that had committed the criminal acts.

Here's an update about their apparent plea deals....

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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Bertha Lewis...is that you?
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The full segment can be seen at the link below.

Rachel Maddow Exposes Fox News’ ‘Bogus’ Coverage Of ACORN

by Glynnis MacNicol | 9:14 am, April 7th, 2010

Rachel Maddow may well on her way to establishing herself as the preeminent mainstream media watchdog after last night. Her calm, thorough, twelve minute evisceration (sorry Jon Stewart, but it was) of the ACORN scandal was a far more damning commentary on the laziness and gullibility of the media and the questionable intentions of Fox News in general than it was an expose of how James O’Keefe et al. faked much of their now infamous report with “highly selective editing of reality.”

Using last week’s California attorney general’s report on the ACORN tapes as well as the unedited video Maddow compares the news that was reported, primarily on Fox, but eventually elsewhere also, with what actually happened. Needless to say you could drive a Mack truck through the two. For example the ACORN employee accused by O’Keefe and Giles (and “evidenced” by the edited tapes) of advising them on how to smuggle prostitutes into the country, actually immediately called the police once the two had left the office. Side note: Tommy Christopher notes a timeline discrepancy between the attorney general’s report, which says the employee called the police immediately and the the AP’s report last fall which said he waited two days…either way he was fired. Additionally, the ACORN employee who was apparently encouraging Giles to start a prostitution business? Turns out she was encouraging Giles not to give up looking for financing for housing.

Maddow, who doesn’t let ACORN off the hook for its other legal misdemeanors, reserves her most damning commentary for Fox:

I know it must shock you but it turns out Fox News was not giving its viewers an accurate portrayal of exactly how these two activists portrayed themselves when they went into the ACORN office…the huge tide of negative publicity that followed these tapes and the coverage they got on Fox, wall-to-wall for months, was bull-pucky. It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts of what happened in those offices.

But it worked, Maddow points out. “Means be damned, it worked…who do you think is next on their list?” Video below. Side note again: Interestingly, Maddow didn’t once mention Andrew Breitbart, which did not in any way keep him from furiously Twittering and RT-ing all comers following the show.

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*YAWN* how fucking boring ,,for you slow lefties *Impression of OP* "wahhhh im a hippy and im mad cause everyone (including independents) are revealing our true form as scum sucking maggots! WAHHH.. I SUCK RACHEL MADDOWS TITS WAHHH, I BLOW OLBERMAN DAILY WAHHH.. Im grasping at straws to debunk videos that are solid evidence wahhhhh!"

Go tell someone who gives a flying fuck cause obviously your one of 6 people still watching MSNBC *Noise* fucking loser.
u are a pathetic tool that should slit your throat in front of your inbred family so they can all applaud at your brutal painful death.. BWAHAHAHAH

PWNED AGAIN FAGGOT
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Of course, this isn't the first time that O'Keefe (Breitbart) and Fox have teamed up to promote a fraud on their viewers....

[link to www.mediaite.com]

James O’Keefe and Fox News Promote Fake ACORN Murder Confession

By Tommy Christopher | 7:17 am, September 16th, 2009

In perhaps the biggest bombshell of James O’Keefe’s ongoing ACORN expose’ to date, Glenn Beck aired a tape of an ACORN worker confessing to O’Keefe’s hidden camera that she had shot and killed her husband. The tape is followed by Beck imploring his viewers to get up off of their couches, call their local newspapers, and demand that they run this story.

Be careful what you wish for, Glenn.

See, whether they got a phone call or not, Duane Gang and John Asbury of the Press-Enterprise did just that, except they did something that O’Keefe, Fox News, and Beck did not do. They got the facts. Here’s my very favorite part of their story:

Police said they have been in contact with (the woman in the tape) Kaelke’s former husbands and the homicide claims do not appear accurate.

Unless they contacted one or both of them by seance, that appears to be an understatement. Kaelke told the reporters that she made the story up, saying “”They were clearly playing with me…I decided to shock them as much as they were shocking me.”

An ACORN representative said that O’Keefe’s tapes were selectively edited, a claim echoed by O’Keefe’s other subjects.

This is exactly what I tried to explain on the Ed Morrissey Show yesterday, that the type of journalism that O’Keefe is engaging in lacks any checks or balances on his desire to reach a pre-ordained conclusion. Luckily, the charade was short-lived, in this case.

Here is the video as it was broadcast on Glenn Beck (the “admission” starts around the :56 mark):
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*YAWN* how fucking boring ,,for you slow lefties *Impression of OP* "wahhhh im a hippy and im mad cause everyone (including independents) are revealing our true form as scum sucking maggots! WAHHH.. I SUCK RACHEL MADDOWS TITS WAHHH, I BLOW OLBERMAN DAILY WAHHH.. Im grasping at straws to debunk videos that are solid evidence wahhhhh!"

Go tell someone who gives a flying fuck cause obviously your one of 6 people still watching MSNBC *Noise* fucking loser.
u are a pathetic tool that should slit your throat in front of your inbred family so they can all applaud at your brutal painful death.. BWAHAHAHAH

PWNED AGAIN FAGGOT
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I guess I hit a nerve there, eh?

That's quite the intelligent response there fellow poster. (Yes, that was indeed sarcasm.)
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i actually saw this last night. it was a good segment. i can't believe rachel maddow actually showed something worth watching.

it was a huge surprise. she's never come across as anything other than a card carrying, textbook, robot democrat.
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i actually saw this last night. it was a good segment. i can't believe rachel maddow actually showed something worth watching.

it was a huge surprise. she's never come across as anything other than a card carrying, textbook, robot democrat.
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What are you talking about? She has done a ton of this kind of stuff.

For instance, one can just look at her coverage of the C Street house and "The Family".

Give me a break poster.
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Well I saw it.

Bet that ACORN man was cooked!

How nice to have a RELATIVE thats a cop and your a smuggler.

Guess you could play that story two ways.

But Maddow tries to spin it to suit her agenda.

Spin Baby Spin
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Well I saw it.

Bet that ACORN man was cooked!

How nice to have a RELATIVE thats a cop and your a smuggler.

Guess you could play that story two ways.

But Maddow tries to spin it to suit her agenda.

Spin Baby Spin
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Loyal Faux News watcher: "Facts be damned!"
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Oops...trying to do too many things at once I guess. Thanks for pointing out the errors.

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You're not having a wank, are you?
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Rachel Maddow doesn't have enough brain cells to escape a paper bag. I watched all the ACORN tapes and it was very clear what was going on. No amount of spin will obscure ACORN's sleaziness.

I met up with ACORN for the first time in Arkansas more than 2 decades ago. One of the rascals accosted me outside a Walmart wanting me to sign a petition. I said I have to read it first. Didn't want to let me read it, but I insisted. The petition sounded like the Communist Manifesto.

So if you like communists you'll like ACORN. If you like people who want government to take from hard working people and give to bums, you'll like ACORN. If you like the ticks that suck the old hound dog to death, you'll like ACORN.
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I agree with you, OP. Maddow did a great job at uncovering the lies of Faux News. Faux News has become nothing more than a Republican/Tea Party shill and the sheep eat it up.
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I agree with you, OP. Maddow did a great job at uncovering the lies of Faux News. Faux News has become nothing more than a Republican/Tea Party shill and the sheep eat it up.
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I totally agree. And they will continue to be exposed for what they truly are by those that deal with actual facts.

Great job Maddow!
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Who is Rachel Maddow?
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Who is Rachel Maddow?
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Even if that was meant to be a RQ....

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