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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 931548 United States 04/07/2010 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be nice if someone were to right a book on this whole sordid affair, i.e., the right's orchestrated attack to delegetimize this organization. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 614630yeah it's clear you're a leftist Oops...trying to do too many things at once I guess. Thanks for pointing out the errors. That prior post should have read "It would be nice if someone were to write a book on this whole sordid affair, i.e., the right's orchestrated attack to delegitimize this organization." Again, thanks for the bump! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 907982 United States 04/07/2010 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rachel Maddow, McCarthyite The FBI, the left, and the war on "extremism" [link to original.antiwar.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 931548 United States 04/07/2010 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story is gaining some traction today. (I wonder if Fox Noise will respond.) [link to rawstory.com] Maddow: Raw footage reveals O’Keefe lied about ACORN tapes By David Edwards and Muriel Kane Wednesday, April 7th, 2010 -- 12:08 pm When conservative activists James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles released tapes last fall purporting to show ACORN employees advising them on how to set up a child prostitution ring, it resulted in widespread praise for their intrepid journalism and a Congressional defunding of the anti-poverty group. But it is now becoming clear to all but their most fervent supporters that the O'Keefe "expose" was deliberately misleading. "If you were a member of Congress and you voted to defund ACORN because of the outrage portrayed in these tapes," MSNBC's Rachel Maddow proclaimed on Tuesday, "you were had." Last week, California Attorney Gerneral Jerry Brown released some of O'Keefe's raw footage, which he obtained as part of an agreement not to prosecute O'Keefe for violating state privacy laws. Maddow reviewed several of the most severe distortions revealed by the footage, starting with O'Keefe's claim that he was wearing his outrageous pimp outfit when he visited the ACORN offices. That claim, which Brad Friedman at Brad Blog has been debunking for months, was promoted heavily by Fox News and swallowed uncritically by most of the mainstream media. The unedited tape of O'Keefe's visit to the ACORN office in San Diego, however, includes a shot of his arm as he opens the door to leave, and he is clearly wearing a nicely pinstriped dress shirt. The edited video released by O'Keefe also appears to show an ACORN employee advising him on how to smuggle underage girls into the United States. O'Keefe is heard off-camera saying, "What things do you need from me in terms of the shipment information," and the employee replies, "It's better if it's in Tijuana ... because I have a lot of contacts in Tijuana." O'Keefe then goes on to say, "There's twelve of them. ... Twelve girls, they're like 13 to 15 years old." But as Maddow pointed out, in the previously unreleased portion of the video, the employee continues asking very detailed questions about O'Keefe's phone number and the exact time and location of the girls' arrival. "What's this ACORN guy going to do with all that information?" Maddow wondered. "Oh, he calls the police and reports what they've told him is going to be a crime." According to Jerry Brown's report (pdf), "Immediately after the couple left, Vera telephoned his cousin, Detective Alejandro Hernandez, at the National City Police Department... [and said] that a self-admitted prostitute had been to the office and was discussing human smuggling." "For that he ended up getting fired," Maddow noted wryly. A final O'Keefe tape appeared to show a different ACORN employee reacting to the child prostitution scheme by saying enthusiastically, "You can do anything. ... Don't give up." But the unedited tape reveals that the encouraging words came after O'Keefe had told the employee that he and his prostitute girlfriend were having trouble finding a house because she is "in a unique line of work." Her "never give up" meant to keep trying different banks until one said yes. "This is not meant to excuse what ACORN has done wrong in the past," Maddow concluded. "But the huge tide of negative publicity ... was bullpucky. It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts. " "But it worked," she added. "Who do you think is next on their list?" This video is from MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show, broadcast April 6, 2010. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865291 United States 04/07/2010 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story is gaining some traction today. (I wonder if Fox Noise will respond.) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 931548[link to rawstory.com] Maddow: Raw footage reveals O’Keefe lied about ACORN tapes By David Edwards and Muriel Kane Wednesday, April 7th, 2010 -- 12:08 pm When conservative activists James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles released tapes last fall purporting to show ACORN employees advising them on how to set up a child prostitution ring, it resulted in widespread praise for their intrepid journalism and a Congressional defunding of the anti-poverty group. But it is now becoming clear to all but their most fervent supporters that the O'Keefe "expose" was deliberately misleading. "If you were a member of Congress and you voted to defund ACORN because of the outrage portrayed in these tapes," MSNBC's Rachel Maddow proclaimed on Tuesday, "you were had." Last week, California Attorney Gerneral Jerry Brown released some of O'Keefe's raw footage, which he obtained as part of an agreement not to prosecute O'Keefe for violating state privacy laws. Maddow reviewed several of the most severe distortions revealed by the footage, starting with O'Keefe's claim that he was wearing his outrageous pimp outfit when he visited the ACORN offices. That claim, which Brad Friedman at Brad Blog has been debunking for months, was promoted heavily by Fox News and swallowed uncritically by most of the mainstream media. The unedited tape of O'Keefe's visit to the ACORN office in San Diego, however, includes a shot of his arm as he opens the door to leave, and he is clearly wearing a nicely pinstriped dress shirt. The edited video released by O'Keefe also appears to show an ACORN employee advising him on how to smuggle underage girls into the United States. O'Keefe is heard off-camera saying, "What things do you need from me in terms of the shipment information," and the employee replies, "It's better if it's in Tijuana ... because I have a lot of contacts in Tijuana." O'Keefe then goes on to say, "There's twelve of them. ... Twelve girls, they're like 13 to 15 years old." But as Maddow pointed out, in the previously unreleased portion of the video, the employee continues asking very detailed questions about O'Keefe's phone number and the exact time and location of the girls' arrival. "What's this ACORN guy going to do with all that information?" Maddow wondered. "Oh, he calls the police and reports what they've told him is going to be a crime." According to Jerry Brown's report (pdf), "Immediately after the couple left, Vera telephoned his cousin, Detective Alejandro Hernandez, at the National City Police Department... [and said] that a self-admitted prostitute had been to the office and was discussing human smuggling." "For that he ended up getting fired," Maddow noted wryly. A final O'Keefe tape appeared to show a different ACORN employee reacting to the child prostitution scheme by saying enthusiastically, "You can do anything. ... Don't give up." But the unedited tape reveals that the encouraging words came after O'Keefe had told the employee that he and his prostitute girlfriend were having trouble finding a house because she is "in a unique line of work." Her "never give up" meant to keep trying different banks until one said yes. "This is not meant to excuse what ACORN has done wrong in the past," Maddow concluded. "But the huge tide of negative publicity ... was bullpucky. It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts. " "But it worked," she added. "Who do you think is next on their list?" This video is from MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show, broadcast April 6, 2010. Lied? I think the videos were pretty self explanatory. |
Red Auroras User ID: 935213 Spain 04/07/2010 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine that! Don't suppose it has anything to do with the ratings war do you? Hope Rachel knows how to tread water! Last Edited by Red Auroras on 04/07/2010 03:45 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 924164 United States 04/07/2010 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and you probably think keith olbermzn is an award winning reporter Quoting: jnchisox1 I think K O should be an award winning reporter. His first speech about his dying father was great Also I believed he did receve one for his speech on days. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 931548 United States 04/07/2010 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't really care if it's bogus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824972Look at the victim. :-) Then I guesws you'll feel right at home watching Faux News. This Maddow quote bears repeating: "It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 931548 United States 04/07/2010 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't really care if it's bogus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 931548Look at the victim. :-) Then I guesws you'll feel right at home watching Faux News. This Maddow quote bears repeating: "It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts." *guess |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 894470 United States 04/07/2010 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "For that he ended up getting fired," Maddow noted wryly." I wonder why the only guy who tried to do anything about this was fired. By ACORN. And why did ACORN change its name to Community Organizations International, and a few other names in various states? Sound like something a criminal would do. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 931548 United States 04/07/2010 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course, this isn't the first time that O'Keefe (Breitbart) and Fox have teamed up to promote a fraud on their viewers.... [link to www.mediaite.com] James O’Keefe and Fox News Promote Fake ACORN Murder Confession By Tommy Christopher | 7:17 am, September 16th, 2009 In perhaps the biggest bombshell of James O’Keefe’s ongoing ACORN expose’ to date, Glenn Beck aired a tape of an ACORN worker confessing to O’Keefe’s hidden camera that she had shot and killed her husband. The tape is followed by Beck imploring his viewers to get up off of their couches, call their local newspapers, and demand that they run this story. Be careful what you wish for, Glenn. See, whether they got a phone call or not, Duane Gang and John Asbury of the Press-Enterprise did just that, except they did something that O’Keefe, Fox News, and Beck did not do. They got the facts. Here’s my very favorite part of their story: Police said they have been in contact with (the woman in the tape) Kaelke’s former husbands and the homicide claims do not appear accurate. Unless they contacted one or both of them by seance, that appears to be an understatement. Kaelke told the reporters that she made the story up, saying “”They were clearly playing with me…I decided to shock them as much as they were shocking me.” An ACORN representative said that O’Keefe’s tapes were selectively edited, a claim echoed by O’Keefe’s other subjects. This is exactly what I tried to explain on the Ed Morrissey Show yesterday, that the type of journalism that O’Keefe is engaging in lacks any checks or balances on his desire to reach a pre-ordained conclusion. Luckily, the charade was short-lived, in this case. Here is the video as it was broadcast on Glenn Beck (the “admission” starts around the :56 mark): |
DanTheMan User ID: 899743 United States 04/07/2010 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i actually saw this last night. it was a good segment. i can't believe rachel maddow actually showed something worth watching. it was a huge surprise. she's never come across as anything other than a card carrying, textbook, robot democrat. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 931548 United States 04/07/2010 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i actually saw this last night. it was a good segment. i can't believe rachel maddow actually showed something worth watching. Quoting: DanTheManit was a huge surprise. she's never come across as anything other than a card carrying, textbook, robot democrat. What are you talking about? She has done a ton of this kind of stuff. For instance, one can just look at her coverage of the C Street house and "The Family". Give me a break poster. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 931548 United States 04/07/2010 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I saw it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 937079Bet that ACORN man was cooked! How nice to have a RELATIVE thats a cop and your a smuggler. Guess you could play that story two ways. But Maddow tries to spin it to suit her agenda. Spin Baby Spin Loyal Faux News watcher: "Facts be damned!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 637599 United States 04/07/2010 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rachel Maddow doesn't have enough brain cells to escape a paper bag. I watched all the ACORN tapes and it was very clear what was going on. No amount of spin will obscure ACORN's sleaziness. I met up with ACORN for the first time in Arkansas more than 2 decades ago. One of the rascals accosted me outside a Walmart wanting me to sign a petition. I said I have to read it first. Didn't want to let me read it, but I insisted. The petition sounded like the Communist Manifesto. So if you like communists you'll like ACORN. If you like people who want government to take from hard working people and give to bums, you'll like ACORN. If you like the ticks that suck the old hound dog to death, you'll like ACORN. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 931548 United States 04/07/2010 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with you, OP. Maddow did a great job at uncovering the lies of Faux News. Faux News has become nothing more than a Republican/Tea Party shill and the sheep eat it up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 851754I totally agree. And they will continue to be exposed for what they truly are by those that deal with actual facts. Great job Maddow! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 931548 United States 04/07/2010 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is Rachel Maddow? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 937112Even if that was meant to be a RQ.... [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Knock yourself out. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 936898 United States 04/07/2010 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the minions walk over a cliff for the gross and untalented snarky bitch that is Rachel Madow. She wouldn't have that job if it wasn't for the fact that she is a lez. MSNBC is owned by GE. GE owns some of the biggest arms manufacturing companies in the world. They have billions from the Afgan war. If Maddow was a real journalist should would look into her bosses and their corporate assets. Maddow would be even funnier except that no one is watching her. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 937175 United States 04/07/2010 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the minions walk over a cliff for the gross and untalented snarky bitch that is Rachel Madow. She wouldn't have that job if it wasn't for the fact that she is a lez. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936898MSNBC is owned by GE. GE owns some of the biggest arms manufacturing companies in the world. They have billions from the Afgan war. If Maddow was a real journalist should would look into her bosses and their corporate assets. Maddow would be even funnier except that no one is watching her. Your a frickin idiot .... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 936898 United States 04/07/2010 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're right I must be a frickin idiot to tell you things that will not believe. I must be a frickin idiot to believe that there is a great benevolent corporation like GE that never does anything wrong. I must be a frickin idiot trying to straighten out a bunch liberal losers like you. |