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And they will be given a white stone

 
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And they will be given a white stone
what does the Bible mean when it says "and they will be given a white stone and opon that stone a new name will be written" This has always stuck in my mind but never knew what it meant.
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Re: And they will be given a white stone
Scrabble?



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Scrabble?



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names aren't allowed in Scrabble!
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names aren't allowed in Scrabble!
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According to the new rules they will be.
(Celebs and corporations names.)

Kinda sad really.. that I know this,
And not the answer to the actual question.

Yes, I am a dufus. But I'm working on it.





anon
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names aren't allowed in Scrabble!




According to the new rules they will be.
(Celebs and corporations names.)

Kinda sad really.. that I know this,
And not the answer to the actual question.

Yes, I am a dufus. But I'm working on it.





anon
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NEW RULES!

THAT IS BLASPHEMY!!

THIS IS SCRABBLE!!!!
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Re: And they will be given a white stone
what does the Bible mean when it says "and they will be given a white stone and opon that stone a new name will be written" This has always stuck in my mind but never knew what it meant.
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From my perspective, it means that whoever comes forward with the truth that will restore all things will also possess a stone with the name of Christ in it.

Have you ever heard of the Chi Rho Cross? Staurogram? It represents the symbol for the name of Christ (Cristos) in Greek by combining the Greek letters "Chi" and "Rho."

Here's a link to a photo of white crystal with the Chi Rho Cross within it. You may need to cut and paste the link to your browser to get it to work.


[link to photos4.meetupstatic.com]
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what does the Bible mean when it says "and they will be given a white stone and opon that stone a new name will be written" This has always stuck in my mind but never knew what it meant.
 Quoting: MONSTER 937412


10 Then the white stone mentioned in Revelation 2:17, will become a Urim and Thummim to each individual who receives one, whereby things pertaining to a higher order of kingdoms will be made known;

11 And a white stone is given to each of those who come into the celestial kingdom, whereon is a new name written, which no man knoweth save he that receiveth it. The new name is the key word.
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The pure language that existed before Babel will be brought back so all names need to be translated over to that specific language, since it is a one time deal and it happens on the day the 1,000 years begins it helps in establishing a reference point.

Zep:3:9:
For then will I turn to the people a pure language,
that they may all call upon the name of the LORD,
to serve him with one consent.

Isa:65:15:
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:

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I once gave a white stone to all my co-workers when I left the best job I ever had with the best people I had ever worked with.
They all started quoting this Bible passage to me.
I sure appreciated it.
That is why I was so happy there, surrounded by the faithful.
White is a very powerful color, no matter your faith or religion.
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Surely it's all relative.

Back in those days, they had no idea about electronics or gadgets - they didn't even have the ability to send a text message! Such fools! If they seen technology from the present day back then, they would shit their pants.

So, what i'm guessing is it's a mis-translation. The white stone is actually a white iPad.
Propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach...
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Re: And they will be given a white stone
The stone is the Lord Jesus Christ. One of his many names and titles in the bible are Living Stone, the Cornerstone. The Name given is refer to the mind and characters of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Basically, when you are a true disciple/believer of Jesus Christ, you think and act like the Lord Jesus Christ and you come into his image and characters by bearing fruit 30/60/100 folds.

100 folds mean coming to the image of Jesus Christ 100%. In this case, when you look in the mirror, you no longer see your old carnal sinful self, but you see the Lord Jesus Christ.


2 Corinthians 3:18
But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord

John 8:51
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my word, he shall never see death.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God


Matthew 13:8
But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundred times, some sixty times, some thirty times.
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Re: And they will be given a white stone
The True Eucharist and the Grail is Lost to You.




The White Stone is the White Eucharist.

The Red Stone is the Red Eucharist.


They are the Bread and the Wine.


The Bread of Life and The Elixir of Life.
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what does the Bible mean when it says "and they will be given a white stone and opon that stone a new name will be written" This has always stuck in my mind but never knew what it meant.
 Quoting: MONSTER 937412


It means a "vote" or approval. Always look into the original greek word for the accurate meaning.

The greek word is "pebble" as in casting votes. The pebble was used in casting votes back then. a white stone meant "yes" and a black stone meant "no".

5586 psḗphos – properly, a pebble used in ancient elections to vote; hence, a vote (Souter).


[link to biblesuite.com]
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12/07/2012 08:28 AM
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It's the holy spirit.
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Jesus said, "If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you. For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."



Jesus also told us that the Bread was his Flesh and the Wine was his Blood.

But you cannot take this as literal as the church does.

But its better if you think that the White Stone is in the Bread and in the Flesh, while the Red Stone is in the Wine and in the Blood.



Jesus is the White and the Red Stone because it is within him.


And when you partake in the true Eucharist, it will be inside you to.





"Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."
Jesus Christ is the way

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Re: And they will be given a white stone
Instead of a tombstone with a finite earth name, you should look for a living stone with your eternal Book of Life name. It is found through Christ.
who the fuck cares anyways
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Re: And they will be given a white stone
The True Eucharist and the Grail is Lost to You.




The White Stone is the White Eucharist.

The Red Stone is the Red Eucharist.


They are the Bread and the Wine.


The Bread of Life and The Elixir of Life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


Alchemy talks about a white and a red stone, which actually are crystals.
Transparent crystal when ground fine is white. A crystal is a transparent stone.
Alchemy can rejuvenate an old person into a young person again, thereby resetting any and all effects of aging. The person will lose all their teeth, hairs and nails and basically be like a baby. But new teeth, hairs and nails will very rapidly grow anew with a very high degree of perfection. The persons body and abilities (mental concentration, movement abilities, etc) will be much enhanced so much so that that a person would not be the same person as he used to be which is meant by 'a new name' in my opinion. At least it sounds logical. Also alchemical texts talk about after the rejuvenation you would need a new name etc. And the eyes when purified could see things which were invisible before.
Probably ultraviolet spectrum and maybe infrared too.

The alchemists have not shared their secret with the masses as they are not ready. Just take a look around you, the intelligence is so low and the morals and ethics of the average people are ... ah its no use to explain, you either know it or you do not.
The alchemists wait for the new age to release their alchemy secrets I think.
Either that or they wait until it is re-discovered and the time I think is very near. In my opinion without 'free-energy' devices, releasing alchemy unto the world is an epic fail. Immortal people with sky high egos and unlimited money? Unlimited pollution and oxygen depletion and the egos..well stupid people + high ego = destruction.
It is ego alone that prevents people from learning more. How can you learn things if you don't want to search for things you want to know? And who the fuck does that? You? I don't think so. Read your bibles all you want, you will never attain alchemy or ANYTHING worthwhile reading that shit OTHER than an incentive to strive for pure morals and ethics, which I have to admit is very good, but the bible prevents practical knowledge in many areas and so does the religion known as 'science' which is really dogma and has nothing to do with knowledge.
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Well eh bugs inhome mean eh that allot go on without even trying to fix the galaxy or something ?
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You dont want to know them and they just go on...

Delusional childish .. And go fuck you.
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The masses are like a chunk of cold lead.


The Alchemist see's within them impurities and a weak soul that begs for regeneration. We see Potential.


And through the stone we can impart the nature of Gold onto the low metal and Raise it up to the level of Gold.

Just as the stone acts upon metals it acts upon men.

We can raise men up to the Spirit of Gold.


This is known as Projection. The art of Transmutation.


Like the Transubstantiation.


We change one thing to another.
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The masses are like a chunk of cold lead.


The Alchemist see's within them impurities and a weak soul that begs for regeneration. We see Potential.


And through the stone we can impart the nature of Gold onto the low metal and Raise it up to the level of Gold.

Just as the stone acts upon metals it acts upon men.

We can raise men up to the Spirit of Gold.


This is known as Projection. The art of Transmutation.


Like the Transubstantiation.


We change one thing to another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


Do not use allegories to confuse things.
an alchemist does not necessarily have a stronger or purer soul than a non-alchemist. An alchemist does not have to be smart to know the secret. He could have gotten the knowledge from a friend. Many people who know a bit about alchemy seem to glorify alchemists as being superior and such, but this is worship behavior and a sign of a polluted mind in my opinion.

Gold's personality is to radiate life force to its surroundings like the sun.
Lead's personality is to analyze information which is acquired and to scrutinize the information to see what is useful and what is not.

Gold's effect is related to the life force and thus the body.
Lead's effect is related to the analytical mind which is the left brain hemisphere. Gold as well as Lead is a trace mineral and have functions related to their personalities, but is not limited to this.

Gold in the body is found in the sperm cells, pineal gland, heart and its also related to happiness, skin health and nerves due to its conducting abilities.
I don't know where lead is found, but it must be somewhere in the brain also, probably in the brain among maybe many other things.

Gold is related to the astrological sign Leo and its the 5th sign of the zodiac.
Interestingly 5 is the number of the pentagram which is related to the dodecahedron, which is basically 12 pentagrams in a 3-dimensional shape.
This when converted into a star dodecahedron is the geometry of life force generation. Which is what gold and the sun is all about.

Lead is related to the astrological sign Capricorn and is the 10th sign of the zodiac. Some books say the astrological wheel of signs is a roadmap for the evolution of personality which always follows the pattern from 1 to 12.
Wherein Aquarius, the 11th is the highest evolution of personality. Some people think its Pisces but pisces focuses on the spiritual side of things, and NOT on the material side of things. Some say thats good but Aries which is sign nr. 1 focuses on the material only. Capricorn also focuses on the material, but wants to use it as a means to a spiritual end.
Aquarius is balance of material and spiritual.
You cannot succeed with shit if you only focus on the spiritual side like pisces, which is not concerned with practicality, but only with dreamworlds.

I explained all this because I think there should be no allegories of lead being inferior to gold. As astrologically speaking lead is further up the ladder. Lead is not as concerned about superficial things like appearance as Gold is obsessed about. Lead is about analyzing information, prioritizing information.
So do not say lead is inferior to gold in any way. Without lead in your body in very small amounts you would be a retard literally, due to not being able to analyze properly.

If some of you want to know more about alchemy you can request more information but if I notice your mind is too polluted with religion, dogma or pretending to know shit I will not waste my time arguing with people who are 'lost' due to not being able to analyze information properly.
Something in which I think I am quite good at. And yes I am a Capricorn, but near Aquarius sign. Personally I think its very hard for a low number astrological sign to succeed with alchemy. From sign nr 6 and up the chances are increased dramatically. Leo is not known to be smart, but known to have good morals and ethics while chasing ego and 'glory'.

As for the poster above me, you act as if you succeeded with alchemy.
There are many people whom are called 'puffers' pretending to know a real alchemical process and having worked it.
While this may be true in your case I think it is not. I have not succeeded with alchemy either, and I don't pretend to have. What I do say is that I think I got an universal process and if it works it could be done in 4 months in massive quantities and great ease without laboratory equipment. Anyone could do it at home. There are about 6 or 7 different types of processes which all partially overlap each other. It all depends on how you look at it.
1 way is very toxic. 2 or 3 ways takes very long. And others are sort of detours depending on how you look at it. The most toxic can be the fastest by far. My way omits putrefaction as that is only needed when combining 2 or 3 principles together and digesting, to purify a substance or to break it apart in the 3 or 4 principles. Which all happen when you combine the principles again. But I tell you, that you do not need to separate the principles at the start. You can begin the process with a pure substance. The substance is not found in the classical 3 kingdoms (animals, vegetables, metal) unless you include minerals, A pure substance would be like for example a pure substance of 99,9% purity or above. But the substance I talk about is not 1 substance. It is a combination of opposites, commonly available everywhere you look. But some substances of the type I talk about cannot be practically. Even though they could work it would take maybe 130 times longer if you took a substance with properties which do not accelerate the work.

I will not tell more on this public forum. In the far future I think people all over the world will rediscover it. I already see evidence around me that the world of alchemy is very slowly becoming common knowledge. Many people do not understand alchemy but I think I know roughly what is happening to the matter which makes it behave so supernatural. I mean not the how or why but what changes in matter need to happen before it becomes like that.

I thought about not telling more after my first post, but then I thought:
Is it coincidence that it has always been stuck in your mind and yet I am so close now to doing this experiment which 'should' yield the white stone.
If it works I will have enough to give a bit away to people I like.
But if you think I am crazy than I guess I am wrong.
Thing is I am looking for more people, because if this works I would have a great and long task for them, of course for a very generous reward.
Not just people but fine people with excellent ethics, kind and intelligent.
Intelligent is an empty word in this culture, but let me put it this way: mentally unpolluted with toxic beliefs. Pristine beliefs based on intelligence not facts.
It is so easy to form beliefs if the facts are widely known. The problem is in determining truth from distortion, and you cannot do that with the knowledge you already have. People like to judge information the moment they read it.
But how can you judge information if you don't know shit about the subject you are trying to learn?

If you are very interested in alchemy and what I have said let me know.
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It's the holy spirit.
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


A stone is not the holy spirit. The holy spirit is the soul.
How can souls be given souls? It cannot be.
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names aren't allowed in Scrabble!
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According to the new rules they will be.
(Celebs and corporations names.)

Kinda sad really.. that I know this,
And not the answer to the actual question.

Yes, I am a dufus. But I'm working on it.





anon
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I'm a dufus too, because I find that somewhat disturbing, although it may make it easier to beat my son at Scrabble.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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The hidden manna comes before. Wonder if John the Baptist ever ate a Camel? Or strained on a gnat? And they overcame, by the Word of their testimony and the Blood of the Lamb.
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The True Eucharist and the Grail is Lost to You.




The White Stone is the White Eucharist.

The Red Stone is the Red Eucharist.


They are the Bread and the Wine.


The Bread of Life and The Elixir of Life.
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I recieved mine on June 3rd, 2007. It is your new name carved into stone by the finger of GOD, marked permanent, as a temple stone.

Last Edited by New Heart on 12/07/2012 12:01 PM
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And fuck mekkas 666 armys.
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Oh wait im going to buy unshaved patatos and place them in the hall for my sweet caring mom and dad for money.
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what does the Bible mean when it says "and they will be given a white stone and opon that stone a new name will be written" This has always stuck in my mind but never knew what it meant.
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It Means They Are No Longer Totally Reliant On THeir Names in The Lambs Book of Life.
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