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Secrets of The Shining: Or How Faking the Moon Landings Nearly Cost Stanley Kubrick his Marriage and his Life. By Jay Weidner AND DAVID BOWIE MAJOR

 
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Secrets of The Shining:

Or How Faking the Moon Landings Nearly
Cost Stanley Kubrick his Marriage and his Life.

By Jay Weidner

Copyright 2009 Sacred Mysteries Productions



For more information on how Stanley Kubrick faked the Apollo moon landings go here

The Shining is surely Stanley Kubrick's most misunderstood masterpiece.

I use the word 'masterpiece' guardedly because I have never really thought that The Shining was a very good film.

At the time, in 1980 when I first saw it, I didn't like it at all. The way that Kubrick threw out so much of Stephen King's great source material and replaced it with a lot of things that just didn't seem to make any sense, really bothered me.

Hopefully, before I am finished with this essay, the reader will see it is only when Kubrick dramatically alters the script from Stephen King's novel that we can begin to understand what Stanley Kubrick is trying to tell us in his version of The Shining.

It should be understood from the beginning that The Shining is Stanley Kubrick's most personal film (outside of, possibly, Eyes Wide Shut). Before we are done here it will be easy to see that Kubrick was only using Stephen King's novel as a launching pad (excuse the pun) to be able to tell a completely different story under the guise of making a film based on a best-selling novel. He did this for a very important reason - mainly to save his life.

Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.

In fact, let's start at the beginning.

There are two main characters in the film, Jack Torrance (played by Jack Nicholson) and his son Danny (played by Danny Lloyd).

It is important to understand here that Jack and Danny are two aspects of Stanley Kubrick himself. Jack is the practical, pragmatic guy who wants to be a great artist. And he is, apparently, willing to do anything to accomplish his goal of being an artist (writer). Jack, like Stanley has black hair, he is idiosyncratic and even smokes the same cigarettes as Stanley (Marlboro).

Danny is the other side of the great director. He is the child-like Kubrick. It is Danny who is actually the real artist.

The Danny side of Kubrick side is psychic, youthful and sees things that no one else sees. Danny also has a tendency to tell people things that should be kept quiet.

The first part of the The Shining is probably the longest, most boring, 58 minutes in Kubrick's career.

The opening of the film takes place with us witnessing Stanley's pragmatic side, Jack, cutting a deal with the Manager of the Overlook Hotel.

The deal between Jack and the Manager of the Overlook is that Jack can write (that is - create) all that he wants as long as he "takes care" of The Overlook.

One other important point is that the Manager of The Overlook tells Jack that the previous caretaker went crazy from the stress of the job and killed his wife and two girls.

Jack says he is "intrigued" but takes the deal anyway.

The Manager of the Overlook Hotel is wearing red, white and blue. Jack's wife Wendy (played by Shelly Duval) and his son Danny also wear red, white and blue for almost the entire first hour of the film.

In this symbolic interpretation the Overlook Hotel is AMERICA. It was built, just like the Manager says, on the graves of Indians. Even when walking on the floor of the Overlook Hotel, one finds oneself trampling over various Native American symbols.

The Overlook Hotel itself is America.

Like America, the Overlook Hotel is new and shiny. It is ostentatious, corny and architecturally boring. As the Manager tells Wendy "All of the best people stayed here".

But there is something very deep happening. Kubrick brushed shoulders with the elite of the world. He knows what is going on.

We have to begin to understand Kubrick's story from his use of symbols. As I like to say: if a picture is worth a thousand words, then a symbol is worth a thousand pictures. For it will be through the use of symbol that the real story of The Shining can be revealed.

The Manager of the Overlook, while interviewing Jack, has an American Eagle right behind his head. It is as if "The Eagle" is the power behind the Manager.

Not only is the Eagle the symbol of America but it should be noted that the Lunar Lander of the Apollo 11 mission was called "The Eagle". To the Manager's right on the desk is an American flag.

Symbolically the Manager (played by Barry Nelson) is the face of the government of the United States. Jack has cut this deal with the government to be the "caretaker" of the Hotel.

The Manager tells Jack that his main job is to prevent the Overlook Hotel (America) from appearing like it is decaying. The Manager reiterates that this is Jack's primary responsibility.

On their first day in the Hotel, Danny has a vision of the previous caretaker's daughters, and he sees that they are twins. The previous caretaker's daughters were not twins in the Stephen King novel. This discrepancy between the book and the film will grow in importance as we continue.

Jack, Danny and Wendy also meet Dick Halorann who is the cook for the Overlook. He befriends Danny and it is through him that Danny discovers that he is not alone when it comes to psychic ability.

Dick warns Danny to stay away from Room 237.

Jack, Wendy and Danny have now fully moved into the Hotel. There is a long cold winter ahead of them. At first Jack loves the hotel but he is having problems with his writing. Also he cannot sleep. Meanwhile Wendy and Danny are having fun.

Jack is not writing. Instead he is throwing a tennis ball at the wall in the room where his typewriter sits. On the wall, which is being struck by the tennis ball, is a Native American artistic motif that looks suspiciously like a group of rockets about to be launched.


Jack throwing the ball at the rocket/arrows on the wall.
Apollo was the god of Archery. Jack is playing ball with Apollo's arrows
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THE STARS LOOK VERY DIFFERENT TODAY
PLANT EARTH IS "BLUE"


BY DAVID BOWIE

Space Oddity lyrics

Ground Control to Major Tom
Ground Control to Major Tom
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on

Ground Control to Major Tom
Commencing countdown, engines on
Check ignition and may God's love be with you

(spoken)
Ten, Nine, Eight, Seven, Six, Five, Four, Three, Two, One, Liftoff

This is Ground Control to Major Tom
You've really made the grade
And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear
Now it's time to leave the capsule if you dare

"This is Major Tom to Ground Control
I'm stepping through the door
And I'm floating in a most peculiar way
And the stars look very different today

For here
Am I sitting in a tin can
Far above the world
Planet Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can do

Though I'm past one hundred thousand miles
I'm feeling very still
And I think my spaceship knows which way to go
Tell my wife I love her very much she knows"

Ground Control to Major Tom
Your circuit's dead, there's something wrong
Can you hear me, Major Tom?
Can you hear me, Major Tom?
Can you hear me, Major Tom?
Can you....

"Here am I floating round my tin can
Far above the Moon
Planet Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can do."
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WE GOT A MESSAGE FROM THE "ACTION' MAN
I NEVER DID ANYTHING OUT OF "THE BLUE"

Ashes To Ashes lyrics
BY DAVI BOWIE

==============
Do you remember a guy that's been
In such an early song
I've heard a rumour from Ground Control
Oh no, don't say it's true
They got a message from the Action Man
"I'm happy, hope you're happy too
I've loved all I've needed to love
Sordid details following"
The shrieking of nothing is killing
Just pictures of Jap girls in synthesis and I
Ain't got no money and I ain't got no hair
But I'm hoping to kick but the planet it's glowing
CHORUS
Ashes to ashes, funk to funky
We know Major Tom's a junkie
Strung out in heaven's high
Hitting an all-time low
Time and again I tell myself
I'll stay clean tonight
But the little green wheels are following me
Oh no, not again
I'm stuck with a valuable friend
"I'm happy, hope you're happy too"
One flash of light but no smoking pistol
I never done good things
I never done bad things
I never did anything out of the blue, woh-o-oh
Want an axe to break the ice
Wanna come down right now
CHORUS
REPEAT
My mother said to get things done
You'd better not mess with Major Tom
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"Get Out of My House"
INSPIRED THE STANLEY KUBRICKS THE SHINING


The Dreaming
Written by Kate Bush

("Hee-haw! Hee-haw! Hee-haw!")

When you left, the door was
(slamming!)
You paused in the doorway
(slamming!)
As though a thought stole you away.
(slamming!)
I watched the world pull you away.
(Lock it!)

So I run into the hall,
(Lock it!)
Into the corridor.
(Lock it!)
There's a door in the house
(slamming).
I hear the lift descending.
(slamming!)
I hear it hit the landing,
(slamming!)
See the hackles on the cat
(standing).

With my key I
(lock it).
With my key I
(lock it up).
With my key I
(lock it).
With my key I
(lock it up).

I am the concierge chez-moi, honey.
Won't letcha in for love, nor money.

("Let me in!")

My home, my joy.
I'm barred and bolted and I

(Won't let you in).
(Get out of my house!)

No stranger's feet
Will enter me.
(Get out of my house!)
I wash the panes,
(Get out of my house!)
I clean the stains away.
(Get out of my house!)

This house is as old as I am.
(Slamming.)
This house knows all I have done.
(Slamming.)
They come with their weather hanging 'round them,
(Slamming.)
But can't knock my door down!
(Slamming.)

With my key I
(lock it).
With my key I
(lock it).

This house is full of m-m-my mess.
(Slamming.)
This house is full of m-m-mistakes.
(Slamming.)
This house is full of m-m-madness.
(Slamming.)
This house is full of, full of, full of fight!
(Slam it.)

With my keeper I
(clean up).
With my keeper I
(clean it all up).
With my keeper I
(clean up).
With my keeper I
(clean it all up).

I am the concierge chez-moi, honey.
Won't letcha in for love, nor money.

("It's cold out here!")

My home, my joy.
I'm barred and bolted and I

(Get out of my house!)
(Won't let you in).

(Get out of my house!)
No stranger's feet
(Get out of my house!)
Will enter me.
(Get out of my house!)
I wash the panes.
(Get out of my house!)
I clean the stains.
(Get out of my house!)
(Get out of my house!)
(Get out of my house!)
(Get out of my house!)

Won't enter me.

(Get out of my house!)
(Get out of my house!)
(Get out of my house!)
(Get out of my house!)

Yeah! Won't let you in!
(Get out of my house!)
(Get out of my house!)
"Let me in!

"Woman let me in!
Let me bring in the memories!
Woman let me in!
Let me bring in the Devil Dreams!"

I will not let you in!
Don't you bring back the reveries.
I turn into a bird,
Carry further than the word is heard.

"Woman let me in!
I turn into the wind.
I blow you a cold kiss,
Stronger than the song's hit."

I will not let you in.
I face towards the wind.
I change into the Mule.
"I change into the Mule."

Hee-haw! Hee-haw! Hee-haw-hee-haw-hee-haw-hee-haw...

"Hee-haw! Hee-haw! Hee-haw!"
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FULL DISCLOSURE OF HOW ALL THREE SONGS FIT INTO THE STANLEY KUBRISK APPOLLO 11 FAKERY CAN BE UNDERSTOOD HERE

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IT IS ALSO MY CONTENTION THAT DAVIDS BOWIE APOLLO 11 CHARACTER
MAJOR TOM
IS REALLY UNCLE SAM

On the same album as Bowies follow up to space odditty ,ashes to ahses, he writes about UNCLE SAM aka Major TOM and tells of the fall of AMERICA.


Scream Like A Baby lyrics

Music and Lyrics by Bowie

Well I wouldn't buy the merchandise
And I wouldn't fight no war
And I mixed with other colours
But the nurse doen't care
And I hide under blankets
Or did I run away
I really can't remember
Last time I saw the light of day
But I remember Sam 'cause he was like me
Scream like a baby
Sam was a gun
But I never knew his last name
And we never had no fun
They came down hard on the faggots
They came down on the street
They came down harder on Sam
And we all knew he was beat
Thrown into the wagon
Blind fold chains and stomped on us
Took away our clothes and things
Pumped us full of strange drugs
And oh I saw Sam falling
Spitting in their eyes
But now I lay me down to sleep
But now I close my eyes
And I'm learning to be a part of society
Scream like a baby
Sam was a gun
But I never knew his last name
And we never had no fun
No athletic program, no discipline, no book
He just sat in the back seat
Swearing he'd seek revenge
But he jumped into the the furnace
Singing old songs we loves
Scream like a baby
Sam was a gun
But I never knew his last name
And we never had no fun
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THE HOUSE IS STANLEY KUBIRCKS VERSION OF THE SHINING THE OVERLOOK
SYMBOLISED AMERICA


JACK TOORENCE SYMBOLIZED THE KEEPER OF THE HOUSES SECRETS DURING THE "COLD WAR"

With my keeper I
(clean up).
With my keeper I
(clean it all up).
With my keeper I
(clean up).
With my keeper I
(clean it all up).

I am the concierge chez-moi, honey.
Won't letcha in for love, nor money.

("It's cold out here!")

MAJOR TOM AKA UNCLE SAM

IS ALSO "THE ACTION MAN" THE DIRECTOR
ACTION!!

HE WANTS AN AXE TO BREAK THE ICE!
(COLD WAR ICE)
HE NEVR DID ANYTHING BAD
HE NEVER DID ANYTHING OUT OF THE BLUE
TH E BLUE IS THE EARTH IN THE FIRST SONG BOWIE WORTE BACK IN 1969 THAT FEATURED MAJOR TOM AKAK UNCLUE SAM WHO WENT TO THE MOON IN A TIN CAN
BUT NEVER REALLY LEFT THE EARTH-
PLANT EARTH IS "BLUE"
AND THERES NOTHING I CAN DO.
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AS JAY WEIDNER EXPLAINS IN STANLEY KUVRISKS VERSION OF THE SHINING
THE BOY DANNY SUDDENLY IS ROLLED THE BALL
OUT OF NOWHERE

KATE BUSH WHO BASED HER SONG ( GET OUT OF MY HOUSE see above )ON STANLEYS THE SHINING- ALSO WORTE
ROLLING THE BALL.
WHICH COMPLEMENTS THE ROLLING OF THE BALL TO DANNY
WHO HAD ON HIS T "SHIRT" APOLLO 11 ROCKET
(SEE DAVID BOWIES A SPACE ODDITY) 'and the papers want to know whos shirts you wear"
rolling the ball by kate bush
(it should be noted that when Kate bush did her only live concert tour ever in the hostory of her career she worked with lindsey kemp the famous mime whom david bowie had also studies under.
and her stage performance of rollong the ball akka heavey people
saw her trapped between two spooks lo0king like spies in long coats and dark glasses aka secret service agents/cia.


ROLLIN THE BALL TO DANNY

Them Heavy People"

The Kick Inside
Written by Kate Bush

Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.

They arrived at an inconvenient time.
I was hiding in a room in my mind.
They made me look at myself. I saw it well.
I'd shut the people out of my life.

So now I take the opportunities:
Wonderful teachers ready to teach me.
I must work on my mind. For now I realise:
Everyone of us has a heaven inside.

Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Them heavy people help me.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.

They open doorways that I thought were shut for good.
They read me Gurdjieff and Jesu.
They build up my body, break me emotionally.
It's nearly killing me, but what a lovely feeling!

I love the whirling of the dervishes.
I love the beauty of rare innocence.
You don't need no crystal ball,
Don't fall for a magic wand.
We humans got it all, we perform the miracles.

Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Them heavy people help me.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball...
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THIS IS KEY


They open doorways that I thought were shut for good.
They read me Gurdjieff and Jesu.
They build up my body, break me emotionally.
It's nearly killing me, but what a lovely feeling!

I love the whirling of the dervishes.
I love the beauty of rare innocence.
You don't need no crystal ball,
Don't fall for a magic wand.
We humans got it all, we perform the miracles.

Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Them heavy people help me.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
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AND THIS MOST OF ALL

we perform the miracles.
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ROLLING THE BALL TO DANNY
THE MIRACLE WAS PUTTING MAN ON THE MOON
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MAJOR TOM AKA UNCLE SAM

IS ALSO "THE ACTION MAN" THE DIRECTOR
ACTION!!

They got a message from the Action Man
"I'm happy, hope you're happy too
I've loved all I've needed to love
Sordid details following"
The shrieking of nothing is killing
Just pictures of Jap girls in synthesis and I
Ain't got no money and I ain't got no hair

STANLEY KUBLRICKS APPEARENCE DETERIORATED DRING HIS WORK ON APPLO 11
THE SAME ACTION MAN


WANTS AN AXE TO BREAK THE ICE!
(COLD WAR ICE)
"I'm happy, hope you're happy too"
One flash of light but no smoking pistol
I never done good things
I never done bad things
I never did anything out of the blue, woh-o-oh
Want an axe to break the ice


HE NEVR DID ANYTHING BAD
HE NEVER DID ANYTHING OUT OF THE BLUE
"Here am I floating round my tin can
Far above the Moon
Planet Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can do."

HE IS SAYING THE "action man" "the director" Stanley kubrik never did anything out of the earth "the blue"

THE BLUE IS THE EARTH IN THE FIRST SONG BOWIE WROTE BACK IN 1969 THAT FEATURED MAJOR TOM AKAK UNCLUE SAM WHO WENT TO THE MOON IN A TIN CAN

BUT NEVER REALLY LEFT THE EARTH-
PLANT EARTH IS "BLUE"
AND THERES NOTHING I CAN DO
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This is an interesting and insightful take on this movie, that I too thought was strange and boring. Is there more? A link would be good for lazy me or I will be googleing it.
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an indepth look into jay Weidners essay by Gordon Comstock
MP3 RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE

[link to gordoncomstock.com]

[link to www.gordoncomstock.com]
ALSO LOUIS PASTURE WAS A CONMAN LIKE AL GORE

[link to gordoncomstock.com]


AND ALSO VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE ABUT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH

[link to gordoncomstock.com]


The Ministry begins an investigation into a new book. Oh, Nellie, is this ever a rare find. Nowadays, nobody even knows this thing ever existed. Yet, Christians across America used to know about this stuff, and about books like this. This history has been "Memory Holed." The book is called as America or Rome, Christ or the Pope by John L. Brandt. It was published in 1895. The Ministry would like to thank longtime listener (and beer drinking buddy) Duff Jessup for finding this one. This is PART ONE

PART TWO OF THIS AND LOIS PASTER ARE HERE

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This is an interesting and insightful take on this movie, that I too thought was strange and boring. Is there more? A link would be good for lazy me or I will be googleing it.
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AS YOU CAN SEE ABOVE THERE IS AN INDEPTH MP3 ON THIS BY GORDON COMSTOCK AND THE LINK TO THE ORGINAL ATRICLE WITH PICTURES IS HERE
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Yeahhh...I mean, it's cool and everything to watch film, and get something out of it, and attach meaning to it. That's great.

As a filmmaker, I do it myself. As a young(er) man (I'm still a "young man", but...) finding meaning in films was one of the reasons I fell in love with the craft/artistry OF filmmaking.

It matters, yes. And I have my own wacked-out ideas about certain films that are personal/specific to me.

But I don't go applying my OWN interpertations to the actual asthetic reasons a filmmaker has included...anything in his-or-her flim.

I'm actually (I don't know why, but...) going to click that link and see what this guy Jay has to say. Although it's going to be for the exact same reason I sneek a peak whenever I stroll by an accident-scene more than anything else...

I read what was cut-and-pasted. It's not impressive (and, no offense but I pay no mind to the songs; totally different medium produced by totally different artists in a totally different time and place- that's it). It's a lot of...self-interpertation. For instance, it's...preposterous to assume that Kubrick had the prop guy put an Eagle behind the manager's head to symbolize America OR the Moon Landings. I mean, if that's the meaning AN INDIVIDUAL wants to attach to it. Fine.

But to say that was THE REASON Kubrick put it there...is far-fetched to the point of pompousity. Kubrick could get playful with his props (the "2001"-record in the record store during "A Clockwork Orange") but for the most part it was just that...playful. Kubrick at his heart was a subversive. I can't think of a single instance of Kubrick using props as his "singular voice" via which to thow out visual clues to....who exactly???

He was much more sophisticated an image-maker than that. It actually degrades his quality of a visual stylist to infer he'd resort to anything so...well, obvious.

If Kubrick was going to come up with a "symbol" for America it would be something MUCH MORE deep and cynical. I think Slim Pickens riding a nuclear bomb like a rodeo star is a far better example of his mettle as an image-maker.

An Eagle behind a guy's head is film-school.

Also, the remnant posted above fails to take into account that Kubrick had a co-writer on the script for "The Shining" (Diane Johnson) as well as, like every other movie, a costume designer, who's name I don't know off the top of my head.

But whatever the characters are wearing in "The Shining" I'm sure it's much more that individual's decision than his.

And I also disagree, I think the first hour of The Shining is actually some of it's most interesting. The middle-part, personally, I've always had a hard time with.

Anyway, I'm gonna live my life then check out this fancy link later tonight and bear witness a little more to how Kubrick (a man, to my knowledged, who's life with his wife Christianne is an example of one of the rare instances of a happy, stable, Hollywood marriage) and his legacy are being further trampled on, via the Glorious Interweb.
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ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY

THIS LINKS TO BOWIES LAST WORDS ON THE SUBJECT OF MAJOR TOM WHO IS A CONTEST REALLY UNCLE SAM

REPEAT
" My mother said to get things done
You'd better not mess with Major Tom"
YOUD BETTER NOT MESS WITH UNCLE SAM
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Yeahhh...I mean, it's cool and everything to watch film, and get something out of it, and attach meaning to it. That's great.

As a filmmaker, I do it myself. As a young(er) man (I'm still a "young man", but...) finding meaning in films was one of the reasons I fell in love with the craft/artistry OF filmmaking.

It matters, yes. And I have my own wacked-out ideas about certain films that are personal/specific to me.

But I don't go applying my OWN interpertations to the actual asthetic reasons a filmmaker has included...anything in his-or-her flim.

I'm actually (I don't know why, but...) going to click that link and see what this guy Jay has to say. Although it's going to be for the exact same reason I sneek a peak whenever I stroll by an accident-scene more than anything else...

I read what was cut-and-pasted. It's not impressive (and, no offense but I pay no mind to the songs; totally different medium produced by totally different artists in a totally different time and place- that's it). It's a lot of...self-interpertation. For instance, it's...preposterous to assume that Kubrick had the prop guy put an Eagle behind the manager's head to symbolize America OR the Moon Landings. I mean, if that's the meaning AN INDIVIDUAL wants to attach to it. Fine.

But to say that was THE REASON Kubrick put it there...is far-fetched to the point of pompousity. Kubrick could get playful with his props (the "2001"-record in the record store during "A Clockwork Orange") but for the most part it was just that...playful. Kubrick at his heart was a subversive. I can't think of a single instance of Kubrick using props as his "singular voice" via which to thow out visual clues to....who exactly???

He was much more sophisticated an image-maker than that. It actually degrades his quality of a visual stylist to infer he'd resort to anything so...well, obvious.

If Kubrick was going to come up with a "symbol" for America it would be something MUCH MORE deep and cynical. I think Slim Pickens riding a nuclear bomb like a rodeo star is a far better example of his mettle as an image-maker.

An Eagle behind a guy's head is film-school.

Also, the remnant posted above fails to take into account that Kubrick had a co-writer on the script for "The Shining" (Diane Johnson) as well as, like every other movie, a costume designer, who's name I don't know off the top of my head.

But whatever the characters are wearing in "The Shining" I'm sure it's much more that individual's decision than his.

And I also disagree, I think the first hour of The Shining is actually some of it's most interesting. The middle-part, personally, I've always had a hard time with.

Anyway, I'm gonna live my life then check out this fancy link later tonight and bear witness a little more to how Kubrick (a man, to my knowledged, who's life with his wife Christianne is an example of one of the rare instances of a happy, stable, Hollywood marriage) and his legacy are being further trampled on, via the Glorious Interweb.
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The audience is the one making all the events in the movie happen.

tried that one yet ?
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AND THIS MOST OF ALL

we perform the miracles.
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+100 exactly
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so dumb.

get yourself to a telescope and see the evidence with your own eyes.

besides, major tom is about a heroin junkie. ashes to ashes

In his 2003 interview with Performing Songwriter magazine, Bowie explains that the song "Inchworm," which was sung by Danny Kaye in the 1952 movie Hans Christian Andersen, was a big influence on "Ashes To Ashes."

Said Bowie:
"I loved it as a kid and it's stayed with me forever. I keep going back to it. You wouldn't believe the amount of my songs that have sort of spun off that one song. Not that you'd really recognize it. Something like 'Ashes to Ashes' wouldn't have happened if it hadn't have been for 'Inchworm.' There's a child's nursery rhyme element in it, and there's something so sad and mournful and poignant about it. It kept bringing me back to the feelings of those pure thoughts of sadness that you have as a child, and how they're so identifiable even when you're an adult. There's a connection that can be made between being a somewhat lost five-year old and feeling a little abandoned and having the same feeling when you're in your twenties. And it was that song that did that for me."

.. then there's the film bowie did, The Man Who Fell to Earth.
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Before I go I just wanted to comment on this right here (which I spotted after I scrolled up a second):

"STANLEY KUBLRICKS APPEARENCE DETERIORATED DRING HIS WORK ON APPLO 11"

It might be true that Kubrick's hair got longer and he grew a beard he'd retain...for the rest of his life, but he was ALWAYS kind of a...dirty guy.

It really shouldn't be hard to find if you look in any books about him (of which I've read 2). From his early days as a young filmmaker trying to finance (with his partner James B. Harris) "Fear and Desire", "Killer's Kiss", and "The Killing" he's described as many people who knew him as an individual who...didn't really have a high regard for how he looked. I recall a specific quote where a technician described a young Kubrick as someone who "didn't look like he bathed much".

I remember that line specifically as this was my hero he was speaking about. I know it's from the Vincent LoBrutto bio that came out in '98 or '99... That was the first one I read, as a kid. I devoured it in about 2 days (pre-"Eyes Wide Shut" Kubrick wasn't really someone you could go into a book store and find a lot...or anything...about. When I saw that book on the shelf my little teenage head exploded).

Anyway, point is, my eye caught that randome quote and...well, yeah- Kubrick never really had much regard for hygiene. You'll find a lot of early pics of a young Kubrick with ties and suitcoats...but their old and smelly. Read about him. It's all out there.

It was just during "2001" when he stopped shaving, ect... And, really, a guy growing out his hair/beard during the mid-late-60's? Not that unusual.
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DISCOVERY COVERS WEIDNER ON KUBRICK

Faked Moon Landings and Kubrick's 'The Shining'

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What part of looking in a telescope to see the evidence for yourself did you not believe?
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so dumb.

get yourself to a telescope and see the evidence with your own eyes.

besides, major tom is about a heroin junkie. ashes to ashes

In his 2003 interview with Performing Songwriter magazine, Bowie explains that the song "Inchworm," which was sung by Danny Kaye in the 1952 movie Hans Christian Andersen, was a big influence on "Ashes To Ashes."

Said Bowie:
"I loved it as a kid and it's stayed with me forever. I keep going back to it. You wouldn't believe the amount of my songs that have sort of spun off that one song. Not that you'd really recognize it. Something like 'Ashes to Ashes' wouldn't have happened if it hadn't have been for 'Inchworm.' There's a child's nursery rhyme element in it, and there's something so sad and mournful and poignant about it. It kept bringing me back to the feelings of those pure thoughts of sadness that you have as a child, and how they're so identifiable even when you're an adult. There's a connection that can be made between being a somewhat lost five-year old and feeling a little abandoned and having the same feeling when you're in your twenties. And it was that song that did that for me."

.. then there's the film bowie did, The Man Who Fell to Earth.
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ASHES TO ASHES IS ABOUT
"THE ACTION MAN"
MAJOR TOM AKA KUBRICK UNCLE SAM
GOING TO THE MOON
BOWIE WROTE ABOUT APPOLO 11 BACK IN 1969
HIS SONG A SPACE ODDITY WAS IN THE ENGLSIH MUSIC CHARTS SAME TIME AS THE MOON LANDING HOAX WAS PERPETRATED BY MAJOR TOM AKA UNCLE SAME AKA KUBRICK.
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What part of looking in a telescope to see the evidence for yourself did you not believe?
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THIS KUBRICK STUFF IS NOT EVDENCE THAT NO MAN WENT TO THE MOON
ITS ONLY EVIDECNE KUBRICK FAKED IT FOR TV

I ALREADY KNOW WE DIDNT GO TO THE MOON
IT IS SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
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AND THIS MOST OF ALL

we perform the miracles.


+100 exactly
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BUT THEY ARE FALSE MIRACLES!
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ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY

THIS LINKS TO BOWIES LAST WORDS ON THE SUBJECT OF MAJOR TOM WHO IS A CONTEST REALLY UNCLE SAM

REPEAT
" My mother said to get things done
You'd better not mess with Major Tom"
YOUD BETTER NOT MESS WITH UNCLE SAM
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The opremise of Jay Wiedners pice on kubrick working on fakery of appollo 11 and the shining clues is that doing this on behalf of UNCLE SAM nearly destroyed Kubrick
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ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY

THIS LINKS TO BOWIES LAST WORDS ON THE SUBJECT OF MAJOR TOM WHO IS A CONTEST REALLY UNCLE SAM

REPEAT
" My mother said to get things done
You'd better not mess with Major Tom"
YOUD BETTER NOT MESS WITH UNCLE SAM

The opremise of Jay Wiedners pice on kubrick working on fakery of appollo 11 and the shining clues is that doing this on behalf of UNCLE SAM nearly destroyed Kubrick
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see the truth


On the same album as Bowies follow up to space odditty ,ashes to ahses, he writes about UNCLE SAM aka Major TOM and tells of the fall of AMERICA.


Scream Like A Baby lyrics

Music and Lyrics by Bowie

Well I wouldn't buy the merchandise USA WORLD COMMERCE
And I wouldn't fight no war USA WAR MACHINE
And I mixed with other colours USA WORLD MELTING POT
But the nurse doen't care
And I hide under blankets
Or did I run away
I really can't remember
Last time I saw the light of day
But I remember UNCLE SAM 'cause he was like me
Scream like a baby
UNCLE SAM was a gun
But I never knew his last name
And we never had no fun
They came down hard on the faggots
They came down on the street
They came down harder on UNCLE SAM
And we all knew he was beat
Thrown into the wagon
Blind fold chains and stomped on us
Took away our clothes and things
Pumped us full of strange drugs
And oh I saw UNCLE SAM falling
Spitting in their eyes
But now I lay me down to sleep
But now I close my eyes
And I'm learning to be a part of society
Scream like a baby
UNCLE SAM was a gun
But I never knew his last name
And we never had no fun
No athletic program, no discipline, no book
He just sat in the back seat
Swearing he'd seek revenge
But he jumped into the the furnace
Singing old songs we loves
Scream like a baby
UNCLE SAM was a gun
But I never knew his last name
And we never had no fun




Ashes To Ashes lyrics

==============
Do you remember a guy that's been
In such an early song
I've heard a rumour from Ground Control
Oh no, don't say it's true
They got a message from the Action Man (THE DIRECTOR STANLEY KUBRICK
"I'm happy, hope you're happy too
I've loved all I've needed to love
Sordid details following"
The shrieking of nothing is killing
Just pictures of Jap girls in synthesis and I
Ain't got no money and I ain't got no hair
But I'm hoping to kick but the planet it's glowing

CHORUS
Ashes to ashes, funk to funky
We know NULCE SAMS a junkie
Strung out in heaven's high
Hitting an all-time low

Time and again I tell myself
I'll stay clean tonight
But the little green wheels are following me
Oh no, not again
I'm stuck with a valuable friend
"I'm happy, hope you're happy too"
One flash of light but no smoking pistol
I never done good things
I never done bad things
I never did anything out of the blue Appolo 11 never left the earth, woh-o-oh
Want an axe to break the ice THE ACTION MAN kubrick wants to get out break THE ICE OF this cold war
Wanna come down right now
CHORUS
REPEAT
My mother said to get things done
You'd better not mess with UNLCE SAM


Space Oddity lyrics
Ground Control to UNCLE SAM
Ground Control to UNCLE SAM
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on

Ground Control to UNCLE SAM
Commencing countdown, engines on
Check ignition and may God's love be with you

(spoken)
Ten, Nine, Eight, Seven, Six, Five, Four, Three, Two, One, Liftoff

This is Ground Control to UNCLE SAM
You've really made the grade
And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear
Now it's time to leave the capsule if you dare

"This is UNCLE SAM to Ground Control
I'm stepping through the door
And I'm floating in a most peculiar way YES BECUASE YOUR NOT FLOATING AT ALL
And the stars look very different today
YES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO STARS

For here
Am I sitting in a tin can YES APPOLO 11 WAS A TIN CAN INCAPALBE OF GOING TO THE MOON
Far above the world LOL
Planet Earth is blue YES AND YOU NEVER DID ANYTHING OUT OF THE BLUE WOO WOOO
And there's nothing I can do

Though I'm past one hundred thousand miles
I'm feeling very still BECAUSE YOU NOT MOVED ANYWHERE LOL
And I think my spaceship knows which way to go
Tell my wife I love her very much she knows"

Ground Control to UNCLE SAM
Your circuit's dead, there's something wrong
Can you hear me, UNCLE SAM?
Can you hear me, UNCLE?
Can you hear me, UNCLE SAM?
Can you....

"Here am I floating round my tin can YES APPOLO 11 WAS A TIN CAN INCAPALBE OF GOING TO THE MOON
Far above the Moon ROFL
Planet Earth is blue YES AND YOU NEVER DID ANYTHING OUT OF THE BLUE WOO WOOO -ALSO REFERS TO KUBRICK)
And there's nothing I can do." KUBRICK HAD TO GO ALONG OR HE BE KILLED.


THIS PART OF KATE BUSH SONG IS ADMITADLY BASED UPON THE MOVIE THE SHINING

"Get Out Of My House" was inspired by Stanley Kubrick's film of Stephen King's novel The Shining.
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This house is full of m-m-my mess. THE USA IS FULL OF STANLEYS MESS
(Slamming.)
This house is full of m-m-mistakes. THE USAS APPLLO 11 MOON LANDING HOAX IS FULL OF STANLEYS LITTLE MISTAKES SUCH AS NO STARS ETCETC
(Slamming.)
This house is full of m-m-madness.
(Slamming.)
This house is full of, full of, full of fight!
(Slam it.)

With my keeper I STANLEY IS THE KEEPER
(clean up).
With my keeper I
(clean it all up). STANLEY WAS THE CLEAN UP MAN FOR THE APPOLO 11 AND USA IMAGE
With my keeper I
(clean up).
With my keeper I
(clean it all up). STANLEY KUBRICK CLEANED IT ALL UP FOR THE USA WHICH IS THE HOUSE - THE OVERLOOK
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ITS WORTH NOTING THAT BOWIE IN HIS VIDEO FOR ASHES TO ASHES
WHEN SINGING ACTION MAN
SHOWS A FLIM CLIP BOARD
AS
IN
WHAT A DIRECOTR SAYS
QUIET AND ..TAKE 1 .....AND ACTION!
THE IS WHAT THE ACTION MAN IS
A DIRECTOR.
IT REFERS OFCOURSE TO STANLEY KUBRICK
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ITS WORTH NOTING THAT BOWIE IN HIS VIDEO FOR ASHES TO ASHES
WHEN SINGING ACTION MAN
SHOWS A FLIM CLIP BOARD
AS
IN
WHAT A DIRECOTR SAYS
QUIET AND ..TAKE 1 .....AND ACTION!
THE IS WHAT THE ACTION MAN IS
A DIRECTOR.
IT REFERS OFCOURSE TO STANLEY KUBRICK
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THATS NOT RIGHT ACTUALLY I GOT MIXED UP
he does hold up photographs to go from one scene to another though
and is sat in waht looks likea dentitists chair wih a giant movie camera on it back
just before he signs in never did good thing
i never did bad things
i never did anything OUT OF THE BLUE
which he said in the previous major tom song was THE EARTH.

ASHES TO ASHES VIDEO
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ORGINAL SPACE ODDITY VIDEO 1969
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SPACE ODDITY footage from Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey
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David Bowie - Scream Like A Baby
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Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" meets "Suffragette City" by David Bowie
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Kate Bush - Get Out Of My House
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Kate Bush - Get Out Of My House vs The Shining
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doppler effect (theme dedicated to kubrick and 2001 space odissey)

doppler effect because the main character is a space traveller lost in space. His oxygen is finishing, and he's dying with terrible pain.

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