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Alpha Omega New Jerusalem Christian education system for this Millennium and beyond

 
NewJerusalemRuss (OP)

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Tomorrow is the last day of New Jerusalem March the first month of the year. Then on to Mother's Day and Jesus Ascension Day in April. Pretty easy and keeps people focused on God/Jesus right?



0/0 ---------- ALPHA OMEGA NEW YEAR DAY – VERNAL EQUINOX
MAR 1/10 ----- PALM TUESDAY- PASSOVER LAMB JESUS COMES TO JERUSALEM
MAR 1/14 ----- PASSOVER SATURDAY
MAR 1/15-21 -- FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
MAR 1/22 ----- EASTER SUNDAY - Jesus is Risen
APR 2/28 ----- MOTHER’S DAY
APR 2/33 ----- ASCENSION DAY THURSDAY(40 DAYS AFTER EASTER)


Fri Mar 1/27
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I would stand up for, or die for, freedom even for the religions I think are completely evil.

Russ, on the other hand, believes that freedom is only for his religion, and not for anyone else's.

 Quoting: Sandi_T



The New Jerusalem is there if people are tired of doing things your way and want to rest their mind in something simple with God not deceived by the war mongers anymore.

People are free to believe in something else, but after using logic and truth why would you want to?

Fri Mar 1/27
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Top of the Line ReTarded Shiz-Nitt!

lmao

Fresh New stir-star for you Russ!

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DEMON RUSS THE DECEIEVER, YOU STILL HAVN'T A CLUE. YOU HAVE ONE DECIPLE. GET OVER YOUR IDEA IS NOT ONLY STUPID , AND NON BIBLICAL. IT IS JUST LIKE AN OCCULT. YOU REMIND ME OF DAVID KERRISH OF WACO TX. HE ALSO THOUGHT HE HAD A NEW IDEA, GOT HIM KILLED.
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It is hard to believe there are actually protesters against the New Jerusalem still.

Why are you anti God/Jesus/Bible? Why are you filled with hate instead of the Unleavened Bread of sincerity and truth? We had the Passover/Feast of Unleavened Bread/Easter in March and you were supposed to look at yourself and learn how to act more Christian.


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It is hard to believe there are actually protesters against the New Jerusalem still.

Why are you anti God/Jesus/Bible? Why are you filled with hate instead of the Unleavened Bread of sincerity and truth? We had the Passover/Feast of Unleavened Bread/Easter in March and you were supposed to look at yourself and learn how to act more Christian.


Fri Mar 1/27
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Right back at ya!!! What have you got against level bread?
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It is hard to believe there are actually protesters against the New Jerusalem still.

Why are you anti God/Jesus/Bible? Why are you filled with hate instead of the Unleavened Bread of sincerity and truth? We had the Passover/Feast of Unleavened Bread/Easter in March and you were supposed to look at yourself and learn how to act more Christian.


Fri Mar 1/27
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lmao
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Has nothing to with GOD, his son or the Bible. your Misleading the blind. your an idiot. seek help!
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Has nothing to with GOD, his son or the Bible.
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The New Jerusalem is all about God, Jesus, and the King James Bible. Others can see the light. Ask yourself why you can't. It is because your heart is not in the right place.

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Love doesn't mean sitting there and staring unconcerned while someone rapes and murders your family.

Nor does it mean sitting there and staring unconcerned while someone attempts to rape and murder people's souls/ spirits.

God can love through many things that I cannot.

By the way, are you really stupid enough to think that anyone who knows that GOD is Love is supposed to run around all the time being saccharine and smiling and handing out flowers to spiritual rapists?




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So, you must admit that there is more to God, than 'love'. You are stating, in other words, that God should also be about justice. Your anger concerning the wrongs in the world tell me that you want justice and righteousness to prevail, not just 'love'.

Love does not redress the wrongs committed against others, justice does. Love does not reprimand and punish wrongdoers who will not obey laws, justice does.

Justice tempered with mercy, patience tempered with righteousness, love tempered with respect.

Your anger has you stewing and fretting and lashing out with no meaningful outlet to change the very things you are angry about.
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So, you must admit that there is more to God, than 'love'. You are stating, in other words, that God should also be about justice. Your anger concerning the wrongs in the world tell me that you want justice and righteousness to prevail, not just 'love'.

No, I'm not. God isn't about Justice, that's a human concept.

I said I was angry, not that God is.


Love does not redress the wrongs committed against others, justice does. Love does not reprimand and punish wrongdoers who will not obey laws, justice does.

Justice is already built into the system. God doesn't need to run around punishing people. No, God is not about justice, especially your idea of justice, which is clearly REVENGE.

Revenge and justice are not the same.


Justice tempered with mercy, patience tempered with righteousness, love tempered with respect.

Yes, with this line alone we can justify any atrocity.

Then we become exactly what it is that that I hate.

No thanks, you keep it.


Your anger has you stewing and fretting and lashing out with no meaningful outlet to change the very things you are angry about.
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You're quite incorrect. Just because I work to bring about change doesn't mean I can't ALSO speak out. Speaking doesn't exclude action.

However, lying to myself and sitting around saying that God's gonna get even for me is not only stupid, but it denies the nature of God. It denies what God has already built into the system itself.

God doesn't have to punish. Nor should God punish. When I punish my child, it means I'm angry and it's time for ME to take a time out. When I give my child loving consequences, it's not out of justice or revenge. It's to protect HER.

Not because I'm angry that she kicked the cat or knocked over her milk.

God already built consequences into the world. There's no need for It to sit in judgment, running around smiting people that are just doing their job.

All of this has a reason and a purpose. God knows that and always has it in mind. I'm human, I get pissed, even knowing it has meaning and purpose.

I expect God to behave BETTER than I do.

I don't humanize God and expect it to be the agent of MY rage.

God is not my slave to go get revenge because I get angry. God is not my slave to convert people to my religion because I can't STAND the thought that someone DARE not agree with me.

The day that I start thinking that God's job is to cater to the pettier emotions I experience, is the day I go atheist, cause I would never worship such a thing. Ever.
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Sandi does God want us to live as one in peace? Yes. Why don't you want to listen to God?


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Sandi does God want us to live as one in peace? Yes. Why don't you want to listen to God?


Fri Mar 1/27
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God wants us to live free.

Peace because we love one another and recognize the beauty and sanctity of human life is a worthwhile goal. It will exist one day.

But it will exist in a state of freedom, not under the petty despotism of someone who wants to take away freedom, under the disguise of "peace."

This is what wicked rulers do. They use the idea of "peace" in order to force despotism on people. They feed on the natural, god-given love that people have for peace, tranquility, and simplicity.

They exploit this in order to further a very dark agenda.

Just as the Usurpers use chaos to cause people to beg for controls and security, so do they use catch words like "peace" to get people to swallow ultimate and intrusive controls.

In the name of peace, what wouldn't we do? What wouldn't we accept?

And if we say 'no' to being controlled and manipulated and micro-managed, we are enemies of peace!

This is an evil and insidious lie. Peace comes not from being controlled slaves, but from being free people. Peace comes not from giving up our souls and our lives, but from standing up for our freedom and our rights.

Because without freedom and our rights, we are slaves. People chained to a wall and unable to fight with each other might be at peace, but that kind of peace is nothing to do with happiness, freedom, joy, or any kind of value.

No thanks to your forced peace and your theft of freedom.

Let all people be at peace, yes. While they remain free and whole and without your interference.
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Shut up Russ.

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No thanks to your forced peace and your theft of freedom.

Let all people be at peace, yes. While they remain free and whole and without your interference.
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Sandi people have been doing it your way for a while now and all they get for it are wars and suffering. Why not try something new and fresh?

This isn't forced, it is just an idea that makes sense.

Why continue with division and wars and suffering when we could all choose to unite as one for global unity peace and prosperity?

Shouldn't responsible adults be working toward such a thing?


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Be back later.


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God wants us to live free.

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Sandi_T, I am curious how you come to this realization. Where or who do you go to to find the definitive meaning of who God is and what He wants from us and for us.

Are there some inspired writings that you use as reference or do you just go with whatever your heart tells you is right?

Finally, just what specific 'freedoms' does 'my' God take away from you? I am not talking about the rest of those you wish to defend, but what rankles you the most about the biblical God, what freedoms do you enjoy that He would take away from you?

I'm not looking for an argument, just curious.
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I'm tired of your shit. You are not for the truth. Religion is not for the truth. Some days ago we were talking about the lies in your bible. When I asked what you think of evolution you just ignored. Sad.

stfu
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the question is what color snuggie does russ wear?
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No thanks to your forced peace and your theft of freedom.

Let all people be at peace, yes. While they remain free and whole and without your interference.



Sandi people have been doing it your way for a while now and all they get for it are wars and suffering. Why not try something new and fresh?

This isn't forced, it is just an idea that makes sense.

Why continue with division and wars and suffering when we could all choose to unite as one for global unity peace and prosperity?

Shouldn't responsible adults be working toward such a thing?


Fri Mar 1/27
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People haven't been free. That's the whole problem. Your way is just more of the same-- slavery. Prettied up to look like it's not slavery, but slavery nonetheless.

I guess you haven't been paying attention to what's really going on. We're not free people. There are few people left who are free in this world. And interestingly enough, they live happy and whole lives until the missionaries or the corporations and the diseases come to kill them.

So no, no one's been "doing it [my] way for years."

And no, responsible adults would NOT be working together to enslave people. Not even under the disguise of peace.

That's what the NWO is doing. You are no different. Different methods, same outcome- slavery.
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God wants us to live free.




Sandi_T, I am curious how you come to this realization. Where or who do you go to to find the definitive meaning of who God is and what He wants from us and for us.

Are there some inspired writings that you use as reference or do you just go with whatever your heart tells you is right?

Finally, just what specific 'freedoms' does 'my' God take away from you? I am not talking about the rest of those you wish to defend, but what rankles you the most about the biblical God, what freedoms do you enjoy that He would take away from you?

I'm not looking for an argument, just curious.
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God reveals itself when you're ready and willing to hear the voice of God, instead of that of humanity. Humanity's voice is God's voice, in the same way that the Gulf of Mexico is the Ocean. We can, and do, hear God's voice in all things. But the problem is that far too many limit God's voice to this or that book, or this or that person's teachings. Like saying that the Gulf of Mexico IS the ocean... instead of part of the ocean.

We are awash in God's love and calling. I cannot explain to you how to really Know God. If I did, I would just be yet another person for you to follow.

What freedoms does the Bible god take away? In the most definitive way, none at all. Because it's not real.

What does it take away, though, in a more generalized sense? A real, abiding, and deep relationship with the real God. A genuine understanding of how humans are loved. The right to know truth, and the beauty and wonder of it.

Because the Bible's concept of God is a spiritual rapist that puts God "out there" and humanizes God. It makes God into some kind of evil, monstrous abuser.

Hypothetical here. Let's say that you never got to meet your dad up til now. And your mother had told you all of your life that your father was a monster. That he would only love you if you turned out perfect before you met him. That he was petty and cruel, and very exacting. That your father didn't actually want anything to do with you, anyway, but would meet you just to please her.

Let's say that she went on to tell you that he was in the mafia, and that he stole and murdered. That he raped women, and tortured people by stabbing them in the eyes with hot pokers.

In other words, she made your father out to be some kind of evil, violent monster.

Then one day, you meet this person who is kind to you. He's very gentle, and loving. He helps you when you need it. He listens to you. You pour your heart out, tell him your worst, most terrible secrets. He loves you and embraces you and helps you learn to begin forgiving yourself and others.

So you tell your mom about this guy, and explain that he had told you that he was your father. She goes berserk. She screams at you and tells you that your father is going to butcher you when he finds out. Castrate you, burn your eyes out, whatever... if you DARE to believe anyone except him.

Then you introduce her, and she tells you that this is DEFINITELY your father, and your father is SUCH a monster.

But you know your father now. You KNOW what a good, sweet, loving, wonderful, kind, gentle man he is. You KNOW without even the slightest doubt that your father NEVER committed genocide. NEVER would even THINK of destroying a person's family over a bet. NEVER EVER would torture or wound people.

What has been taken away from you? What freedom has been lost?

The freedom to love one of the most important people in your life, without fear. The freedom to have a REAL, living, breathing relationship with your 'father' without the lies and the slander that your [book] told about this wonderful, amazing Being.

The freedom to love God without fear, without having to try to terrorize other people if they don't agree with me. The freedom to talk to God without feeling like some lowly piece of shit groveling.

Christianity steals the relationship of humanity with God. It steals spiritual freedom. It does its best to take away the basic human RIGHT of relating directly to God.
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[<snip>

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So, in essence, the bible's definition of God is at odds at who YOU feel God should be. You have no written word, no other source to look to...just your perceptions of how God should be, to make your world perfect? The way it is through Sandi_T's eyes.

So, you are the source of God's definition, is that not an accurate statement?
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Finally, just what specific 'freedoms' does 'my' God take away from you? I am not talking about the rest of those you wish to defend, but what rankles you the most about the biblical God, what freedoms do you enjoy that He would take away from you?


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And, you did not answer this question. You talk in similes and stories but you do not answer the question in a comprehensive way...which leads me to believe that you do not have a concrete idea of who God is, what 'freedom' is.

I am trying to tease out something important in and to you, make you really think about what you say, not trip you up or argue with you.
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Just do the New Jerusalem right where you are at.


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What?
IS THE NEW JERUSALEM A NEW DANCE CRAZE ?
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So, in essence, the bible's definition of God is at odds at who YOU feel God should be. You have no written word, no other source to look to...just your perceptions of how God should be, to make your world perfect? The way it is through Sandi_T's eyes.

So, you are the source of God's definition, is that not an accurate statement?
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I know perfectly well what you're doing here.

So I'm going to ask you a question instead of playing your little game. I'll be fascinated to see how you weasel around answering it. You're good at entrapment, so you shouldn't have any difficulties at spinning your way around this one:

Did God write the Bible, or did human hands write the Bible?

Finally, just what specific 'freedoms' does 'my' God take away from you? I am not talking about the rest of those you wish to defend, but what rankles you the most about the biblical God, what freedoms do you enjoy that He would take away from you?




And, you did not answer this question. You talk in similes and stories but you do not answer the question in a comprehensive way...which leads me to believe that you do not have a concrete idea of who God is, what 'freedom' is.

I am trying to tease out something important in and to you, make you really think about what you say, not trip you up or argue with you.
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I did answer the question. The Bible attempts to take away the freedom of having a REAL relationship with the REAL God.

Or, if you like, we'll simply narrow it down to freedom of religion. Maybe that's simple enough for you, since the complex and real answer apparently escaped your understanding.
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I've signed in because I hate making typos, so I can correct them if I see them.


So, in essence, the bible's definition of God is at odds at who YOU feel God should be. You have no written word, no other source to look to...just your perceptions of how God should be, to make your world perfect? The way it is through Sandi_T's eyes.

So, you are the source of God's definition, is that not an accurate statement?
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I know perfectly well what you're doing here.

So I'm going to ask you a question instead of playing your little game. I'll be fascinated to see how you weasel around answering it. You're good at entrapment, so you shouldn't have any difficulties at spinning your way around this one:

Did God write the Bible, or did human hands write the Bible?

 Quoting: Sandi_T


The Scriptures were written by many different authors who were imbued with the Holy Spirit of Truth. The writings didn't just pop out of the air. Being indwelt with the Holy Spirit is the most precious gift God can give you, and if you heed It it will reveal amazing things.

Not everything written in the bible is condoned by God either, but a lot of the 'gritty' stuff was just a factual account of sinful men doing sinful things. I can't say I understand it all, nor do I even agree with it all, but I take His word at who He says He is, and it differs greatly from what you offer, here. His ways and thoughts are certainly not like our ways and thoughts--oh dust motes that we are.


I did answer the question. The Bible attempts to take away the freedom of having a REAL relationship with the REAL God.

Or, if you like, we'll simply narrow it down to freedom of religion. Maybe that's simple enough for you, since the complex and real answer apparently escaped your understanding.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Well, you've given me a conclusion, not list the facts and details, like I asked, but it'll do--because you are so suspicious and defensive it is not worth pursuing. Your attitude belies your heart.

It wasn't a little game, kiddo, I was testing you to see if you really have a handle on what you believe. Maybe you just don't know how to express yourself better than in generalities. I find I learn as much about what I believe in when I defend it against what others believe, it was not an attack on you.

So, in conclusion--for you, ALL ROADS lead to God? We get to pick and choose what we want to do to please Him, because it doesn't matter to Him what we do?

That is in essence what you have presented, and if so, then so be it. It's all a gamble, choose your hand wisely.

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I'm tired of your shit. You are not for the truth. Religion is not for the truth. Some days ago we were talking about the lies in your bible. When I asked what you think of evolution you just ignored. Sad.


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You are full of baloney. I talked with you and you said you were tired and had to go to bed.


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So it appears Sandi is anti Bible. That explains Sandi's anti New Jerusalemness.


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Just do the New Jerusalem right where you are at.


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What?
IS THE NEW JERUSALEM A NEW DANCE CRAZE ?
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It is a fresh new calendar and holiday system for global management. Injecting new energy into Christianity to restore the planet and set it on a new course of peace and prosperity for the Millennium.




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We're dropping truth bombs like it's the end of days!