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Muslim staff escape NHS hygiene rule, go ahead and die our faith is more important than your health.

 
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Muslim staff escape NHS hygiene rule, go ahead and die our faith is more important than your health.
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Muslim doctors and nurses are to be allowed to opt out of strict hygiene rules introduced by the NHS to restrict the spread of hospital superbugs.

Female staff who follow the Islamic faith will be allowed to cover their arms to preserve their modesty despite earlier guidance that all staff should be "bare below the elbow".

The Department of Health has also relaxed rules prohibiting jewellery so that Sikh members of staff can wear bangles linked with their faith, providing they are pushed up the arm while the medic treats a patient.
The Mail on Sunday reported the change had been made after female Muslims objected to being required to expose their arm below the elbow under guidance introduced by Alan Johnson when he was health secretary in 2007.

The rules were drawn up to reduce the number of patients who were falling ill, and even dying, from superbugs such as MRSA and Clostridium difficile.

Revised guidance which relaxed the requirements for some religions was published last month.

Some Muslim staff and those from other groups may be allowed to use disposable plastic over-sleeves which cover their clothes below the elbow and allow the skin to remain covered up.

Derek Butler, chairman of MRSA Action UK, said: "My worry is that allowing some medics to use disposable sleeves you compromise patient safety because unless you change the sleeves between each patient, you spread bacteria.

"Scrubbing bare arms is far more effective."

A Department of Health spokesman said: "The guidance is intended to provide direction to services in how they can balance infection control measures with cultural beliefs without compromising patient safety."
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well now...we'll all just have to take our health into our OWN hands, eat healthy and exercise daily to PREVENT ourselves from becoming susceptible to these 'superbugs' so we wont even have to worry about it.

Seriously... why jump ahead of yourself and worry about what the doctors and nurses are doing. Its not THEIR JOB to keep you healthy, THATS YOUR JOB.

If you are afraid of superbugs on their sleeves, you should see what lives on your toothbrush in the bathroom.

hf
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04/13/2010 12:27 PM
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The Department of Health has also relaxed rules prohibiting jewellery so that Sikh members of staff can wear bangles linked with their faith
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but if a christian dares to wear a cross they can be fired
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04/13/2010 12:28 PM
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Oh I see, the UK ofcourse.
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of course...
Oh I see, the UK ofcourse.
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THAT's


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We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people.
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04/13/2010 12:33 PM
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OMG I know what they are doing!
They want us all to convert to islam!
Muslims get so many privileges, that many people will go thinking: what the heck I will convert, just to lure them ptb back.
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04/13/2010 12:35 PM
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Fire them all, follow the rules and guidelines or get out.
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The Department of Health has also relaxed rules prohibiting jewellery so that Sikh members of staff can wear bangles linked with their faith


but if a christian dares to wear a cross they can be fired
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Too right I heard way too many stories of such and yet they bend over backwards for these peoples.

Don't want to offend them BS
You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system
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04/13/2010 12:53 PM
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I would demand that NO muslim that doesn't follow the rules touch me or anyone of my family, and if they tried too I'd be coming at them with 10 long fingernails.

No follow rules?
Get the fuck outta my room and start yelling for someone else.
The Lord is good.
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04/13/2010 12:58 PM
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Only Muslim doc for Muslim patients.
Problem will go away by attrition.
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04/13/2010 12:59 PM
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That's disgusting. I'm a nursing student and we have to follow very strict rules, including bare arms from the elbow down. It's to keep things as clean as possible. I don't want someone's dirty sleeves dangling over my sterile field when I'm working. This should not be allowed. One of the reasons nurses no longer wear the traditional cap is because it was a carrier of germs. I'd refuse to let ANY medical personnel near me if they didn't follow the rules. Gross!
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04/13/2010 01:32 PM
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Muslims are generally filthy.
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04/13/2010 01:39 PM
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no need for me to worry. havent seen a doctor in 6 years. if i do, i demand a white female doctor.
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04/13/2010 01:44 PM
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The rules should be the same for everyone working in health care. No exceptions. If they don't want to follow the rules then they can get some other kind of job.

There is nothing sexual about seeing someone's forearm. Nobody will be driven wild with lust. Same for their headgear.

Wish the nurses still did wear the little hats. At least you could tell who was a nurse and who was an aide.
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04/13/2010 01:52 PM
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"Female staff who follow the Islamic faith will be allowed to cover their arms to preserve their modesty despite earlier guidance that all staff should be "bare below the elbow"."

Its your fucking ARM not your ass or breasts,ffs already.
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04/13/2010 01:54 PM
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Man, that Allah has got some weird kinks.

Arm fetish? LOL.
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04/13/2010 01:57 PM
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And they want us all to get along. Sigh.
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Only Muslim doc for Muslim patients.
Problem will go away by attrition.
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:5:
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well now...we'll all just have to take our health into our OWN hands, eat healthy and exercise daily to PREVENT ourselves from becoming susceptible to these 'superbugs' so we wont even have to worry about it.

Seriously... why jump ahead of yourself and worry about what the doctors and nurses are doing. Its not THEIR JOB to keep you healthy, THATS YOUR JOB.

If you are afraid of superbugs on their sleeves, you should see what lives on your toothbrush in the bathroom.

hf
 Quoting: the Quetzal

Moran
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Fine, they don't like the hygene rules? They can build there own hospitals...
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Wow. Sad to see the author and majority of the people leaving comments seem to hate Muslims for no reason at all. If clean disposable sleeves can be worn then whats the BFD?! Change them every time, just like gloves.

As a Christian I would practice my beliefs regardless of what anyone said. I have a deep respect for anyone trying to do the same.

Good thing God will be the judge and not you closed minded a-holes.
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Wow. I guess Muslim women think some guy's going to be led to Satan by seeing their slutty forearms.

crazy
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Muslim doctors and nurses are to be allowed to opt out of strict hygiene rules introduced by the NHS to restrict the spread of hospital superbugs.

Female staff who follow the Islamic faith will be allowed to cover their arms to preserve their modesty despite earlier guidance that all staff should be "bare below the elbow".

The Department of Health has also relaxed rules prohibiting jewellery so that Sikh members of staff can wear bangles linked with their faith, providing they are pushed up the arm while the medic treats a patient.
The Mail on Sunday reported the change had been made after female Muslims objected to being required to expose their arm below the elbow under guidance introduced by Alan Johnson when he was health secretary in 2007.

The rules were drawn up to reduce the number of patients who were falling ill, and even dying, from superbugs such as MRSA and Clostridium difficile.

Revised guidance which relaxed the requirements for some religions was published last month.

Some Muslim staff and those from other groups may be allowed to use disposable plastic over-sleeves which cover their clothes below the elbow and allow the skin to remain covered up.

Derek Butler, chairman of MRSA Action UK, said: "My worry is that allowing some medics to use disposable sleeves you compromise patient safety because unless you change the sleeves between each patient, you spread bacteria.

"Scrubbing bare arms is far more effective."

A Department of Health spokesman said: "The guidance is intended to provide direction to services in how they can balance infection control measures with cultural beliefs without compromising patient safety."
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WHY IS THIS SHIT PINNED?

AND NOT THIS?
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

TITLED JEWISH RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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04/13/2010 02:56 PM
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Because for 1400 years muslims have ALWAYS caused trouble. With liitle periods of respite till then next big push for the caliphate.First it was wars of conquest, and now you have stealth war. Move to host countries. Do not integrate. Over populate then impose your religious values on the hosts system leading to eventual Sharia law. Thats why this is pinned.
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Muslims are generally filthy.
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bump
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Wow. Sad to see the author and majority of the people leaving comments seem to hate Muslims for no reason at all. If clean disposable sleeves can be worn then whats the BFD?! Change them every time, just like gloves.

As a Christian I would practice my beliefs regardless of what anyone said. I have a deep respect for anyone trying to do the same.

Good thing God will be the judge and not you closed minded a-holes.
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No reason at all? They're a bunch of dirty, obnoxious, troublemaking entitled PIGS.

That's the fucking reason. They need to be sent back to their wallows/countries/hellholes. They don't need to eat pigs. They ARE pigs.

Patients don't need their filthy germ spreading asses in the hospital. FUCK YOU. I guess dentists should wash their hands after taking a wizz to huh? TURD.
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04/13/2010 03:05 PM
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Fire them all, follow the rules and guidelines or get out.
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thank you thank you thank you. WTF is WRONG with people in decision making positions? FOLLOW THE RULES OR GET THE FUCK ANOTHER JOB.
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Religious freedom does not include the freedom to put other people's health in danger. Scrub your arms or GTFO.
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of course...

Oh I see, the UK ofcourse.


THAT's


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Why isn,t there a flag on theGrandSmithWizard post?
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Nice pin.

Thread: It's come to this: Muslim staff escape Hospital hygiene rule
It's come to this: Muslim staff escape Hospital hygiene rule April 11

Ahead of my time, I am!! :)
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well now...we'll all just have to take our health into our OWN hands, eat healthy and exercise daily to PREVENT ourselves from becoming susceptible to these 'superbugs' so we wont even have to worry about it.

Seriously... why jump ahead of yourself and worry about what the doctors and nurses are doing. Its not THEIR JOB to keep you healthy, THATS YOUR JOB.

If you are afraid of superbugs on their sleeves, you should see what lives on your toothbrush in the bathroom.

hf
 Quoting: the Quetzal

this is ridiculous,doesn't matter how much bloody exercise you do,accidents happen anytime without notice,kids can get injured,old people get sick and are vulnerable, the hygiene subject is really important,doesn't matter how healthy you think you are,this is life threatening for people with open wounds,you obviously haven't been sick with infection because of some nurse,and for bugs on your toothbrush,i don't think you would be sticking your toothbrush into a wound,this is just uneducated bullshit.and It is THEIR JOB to keep you healthy,if you are in their care,your life is in their dirty hands.





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