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[link to www.newsmax.com]

Saakashvili: 'Something Incredibly Evil' About Kaczynski Death

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili says “there is something incredibly evil” in the death of Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his entourage this weekend.

Is the embattled Georgian president pointing fingers at the Russians?

Asked about elaborate on his "evil" comment during a CNN interview in London, Saakashvili said: “I mean the way he died. Of course, there is a symbolism in that. I do not want to comment about it.”


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!!!!!!!!IMPORTANT other "hot news" !!!!!!!!!11 :

The georgian tv channel "imedi" 4 weeks ago aired a fictionous movie where the polish president kazcinski was murdered in his plane which was brought down with a bomb ..

this all in the light of a russian invasion of georgia which the polish president knew of ..

I don't finde english news about the two statements, so here comes the english translation of two german spoken sources who claim the above to be true :


original source german

[link to www.tagesanzeiger.ch]

translated with google , corrected manually where necessary:

The georgian tv channel Imedi ,controlled by Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili , beamed on 13 march 2010 a fictional movie of a Russian attack on the Southern kaukasus republic .

In this movie Saakashvili's ally, the polish president Lech Kaczynski was killed by a bomb on board his plane.


At that time ( 4 weeks ago ) the (true) Polish president, did not comment on the fictional fake report of him being murdered in a movie , but Saakashvili described the film as "realistic as reported by Russian media on Monday.

Kaczynski was in solidarity with Georgia after Russia's 2008 Southern kaukasus war and demonstratively with Saakashvili visited the border area to the breakaway region of South Ossetia.

At that time ( 2008) , the pilot of Kaczynski's machine to the repeated statement of the President was opposed to land despite uncertain conditions in the conflict zone and instead activated an airport nearby. Kaczynski, who had to continue his trip on a car, threated the driver with consequences because of insubordination.
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SECOND SOURCE : german

[link to info.kopp-verlag.de]

Translated :


After the crash of Polish President Kaczynski on 10 April

Georgian leader Saakashvili and Russian-enemy gives dark hints about the "symbolism" of the disaster.

On 13 March 2010, a month before the crash, beamed from the pro-government TV "Imedi" a fictional documentary, in which the aircraft of the Polish president was assassinated in a bomb ...

In Georgia they seem to have clairvoyant abilities. Already on 13 March 2010, a month before the catastrophe of Smolensk beamed, the government-Imedi television fictional documentary about a Russian invasion of Georgia one of them.

The fact that in the 30-minute, prime-time broadcast only a simulation film was acting, but that was only briefly mentioned in between - but then the tanks were rolling very real.

the simulation of the Georgian Imedi movie reported to contain an amazing piece of prophecy:

According to various media , the report asserts in, the machine of Polish President Lech Kaczynski and Saakashvili's friend had crashed after a bomb explosion in that movie.

Almost exactly a month later, on 10 April 2010, the unbelievable and completely improbable happened and kazcinskys plane crashed for real ..

AUTOPSY...make it happen

OK... But I'm going with gunshot since I shoot and it pretty much sounds like any of the small caliber guns I shoot. It's got that cracking sound.

small caliber pistol shot!

If they were gun shots...which I doubt...it was the President of Poland's plane.
That means there were armed body guards carrying loaded guns on board and stored ammo on the plane.
Live rounds do tend to "cook" off when exposed to fire.

fuck you - there clearly is reverb. also, there is low frequency energy meaning it is some type of explosion. whether from a gun who knows.

Nobody said it was a shotgun! You are trying to confuse matters. It doesn't even make an ounce of sense for it to be a shotgun, shotguns are very limited use and you don't often see police/military carrying them. Also, you mention silenced shotgun, which is a very rare and ineffective thing.

You now say that you are off for the day, I can see why as you have accomplished your goal of confusing matters and causing problems.

Nothing strange. They were waiting for the plane to land. There were officials and journalists there. The plane fell beside the airport.

The gunshots are probably of soldiers trying to secure the area. The only question is if the shots sound like hitting a target or in the air?

And another question is, there should be guards with guns in the plane, could their guns go off from the heat?

That is entirely possible. But considering the circumstances of the crash and where it happened, when one hears something like gun shots you have to assume they are.

B-I-N-G-O

Gee... fancy that..

DEBRIS and large pieces of the plane at a crash site...


and we 9/11 truthers, we're all just kkkkrrrraaazzzzyyyy

because we don't see any large debris from flight 93

If they were rounds "cooking off", wouldn't they be more random? These sounded like they were shot not cooked. Just my opinion.

TOMEK!! Long time no see.

Good to see you are still around.

Whoa.....

Tomek is here....

There MUST be something afoot.....

oh my

I meant to say "If they gun shots...aimed at people which I doubt"
Those were most likely live rounds cooking off.

I'd say they were rounds going off in a gun. I don't think rounds cooking off make the crack like that did. They're low velocity and not very compressed.

I've shot guns all of my life and I'd put money on it. I'm not going to say 100% but it sure sounds like a small caliber round going off.

0:50 "Ubijem Ciebia"

Your first language must not be English. If an airport "has been functioning in part as a civilian airport," it is actually military.

It did to me too...and I've heard thousands and thousands...you can also hear the guy step on few twigs in the beginning...they make a much higher tighter register snap...one thing for sure...all four sounds were very close to each other sonically...if there were various bottles cooking off...I'd expect they would vary a LOT more...last one sounds more like it was pointed in the cameras direction...and all sound like gunshots to me...like about the .380 range....sounded smaller than 9mm parabelum....and that is what a Makarov fires...9x18?...something like that...but it's more or less a .380 or 9mm "short"....

"We will kill you."

I don't know a lot about guns, but aren't they pretty loud? Like, frighteningly loud?

The old man in the coat who appears near the end of the video doesn't look too..."startled". I think he even has his hands in his pockets or something.

And if there were "hit squads" sent in to "take care" of survivors, the guy who took this video and the old man he flimed would certainly...have been "hit" by the "squad" also, wouldn't they?

Fires in forests make all kinds of weird, random "cracking/popping"-sounds. This I do know a little about. And I'd say probably even more so when the fire derives from airplane wreckage which was almost certainly carrying Polish secret service guys armed to the teeth.

And anyway, when you read the account of how that plane went down...I mean, there were no survivors.

Even the few individuals who might've survived the impact were engulfed by the ensuing flames.

No one can survive that. There would be no need for "hit squads".

Although I'm curious what the Russian-to-English translation is. I only read the first page of this thread and then this one, so I don't know if anyone's translated it yet...

yeah sure....

Those won't tell us anything... remember the Clinton years?

you know what they say... there is no such thing as coincidence...

^^^and THAT folks, is the sound of a brain exploding^^^

Gunshots.. Loud and clear !!

Yep, sounds like a small arms round. I find it interesting that these people are there before the police folks are able to get there.

The thing is. There is a real possibility that someone is cleaning up the scene of a crime before the authorities are there.

Good point about how they all sounded the same.

9x18 is common eastern block surplus. I can't tell exactly from round to round but I'd say were close. 9x18 makes sense but it could be anything small. I have a cz50 that is .32acp and it sounds like that too. But alas, a small caliber.