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# The Sun may rise in the West, Earthlings! (Solar reboot, Earth rotation stoppage and reversal)

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There are a couple of experiments and insights that have been overlooked lately which have grave implications for pole shift probabilities.

1) The first is from Paul La Violette, a respected astrophysicist. Paul discovered that blasting dipole magnets with 100 times their own power, flips the poles of these magnets, such that North is then South and vice versa. This is important for pole shift theories because our Earth is a dipole magnet which means simply it has a north and south pole. This very important experiment was written up in Paul's “Earth under Fire” book on page 202, viewable on Amazon’s “look inside feature” so you don’t have to buy the book.

2) The second important realization comes from Sir Roger Penrose, a theoretical physicist and cosmologist, who explains in his book, The Emperor's New Mind, that the momentum and wave function of a photon is a corkscrew or helix. He explains that all emitted photons must carry some mass because Energy is equal to mass times light squared (E=mc2).

I paraphrase him: "If you think of energy as a highly diluted form of mass, you can imagine mass as a highly concentrated form of energy. Then one can visualize magnetic attraction and repulsion as streams of photons with their corkscrew shaped wave functions screwing into (attraction) or screwing out of (repulsion) each other."

Another way to understand this spiraling, torquing energy flow is to look up the “corkscrew rule” which states that the magnetic field, of a wire’s current, flows in a clockwise rotation when going away from you.

The point here is that if the rotation of the Earth is sustained by the known magnetic spiral from the “corkscrew rule” running up its axis, then this can be instantly reversed by a single blast of energy, from the sun, that is over 100 times the magnetic power of our magnetosphere.

This corkscrew of torquing current can be flipped like a light switch, it’s just too freaking easy.

For this to actually happen, first the sun would need to be energized by the local cloud of fluff that NASA claims is out there, or a galactic Superwave which Paul La Violette has proven, or just from the Sun's own solar maximum.

Then the Sun would have to be agitated to release this excess energy in a coronal mass ejection (CME or EMP) directed at the Earth. This agitation could come from a Galactic Superwave, a Nibiru pass, the Dark Star's gravity, or the end of the 26,000 year precessional cycle, or some other source we don't know about.

All of this seems eminently possible, to me. I am curious to know what others think about this possibility. The disintegrating magnetosphere graphs we see every day only lessen the amount of energy the sun would need to flip the mag-poles of our Earth.

The rotation reversal scenario is simple, with just 6 steps.

1) Teh Sun gets energized

2) The sun gets agitated to release energy

3) The earth gets blasted with over 100x magnetosphere energy,

4) The magnetic poles flip, but not the rotational poles, (yet anyway….)

5) The corkscrew rule, or effect, that presumably runs down the Earth’s axis to turn the earth (CCW in relation to the sun) would then reverse rotation. This would, of course, start braking the counter clockwise, crustal rotation and gradually slow the earth's spin over the coming weeks or months

6) The Earth finally starts rotating by the reversed corkscrew effect, so, the Sun rises in the West, Earthlings.

This may not sound too damaging to our world, but consider this:

1) The initial sun blast (CME or EMP) would probably shortout the entire electrical grid and everything that rests upon it, including cars, planes, communications, water pumps, gas pumps, lights, and refrigeration, etc.

2) The longer days and nights would produce extreme temperatures and winds, possible hurricanes and tornadoes. 200 hundred mph winds would likely flatten 90% of the buildings on Earth along with most crops.

3) The equatorial bulge of the Earth, which is 26 mile deep water, is only held in place by the centrifugal force of rotation. This would immediately be released and back-flow towards all coasts and seaports, not on the equator. The ports on the equator would become too shallow to navigate. This back flow would inundate all coastal cities and interrupt shipping and communications for some time. It would also force billions of coastal dwellers uphill where they would likely starve and die from exposure. Fighting over limited stockpiles and quarry would likely result as starvation tends to drive people crazy.

4) With the redistribution of water, comes the dreaded redistribution of water weight upon the tectonic plates. This would likely trigger massive Earthquakes and massive sinking of coasts and river valleys. The US Navy, according to leaked rumors, apparently thinks the New Madrid fault, running under the Mississippi River, would release 3 separate 9.M quakes when the Mississippi got to be about 100 miles wide. Such a series of quakes would liquefy the Midwest of America and destroy the crops and farmers so many depend upon. All the bridges across the Mississippi would be lost and the nation effectively cut in half.

5) With the tectonic plates in flux, volcanism would erupt like never before and release far more ash than we have with the current minor Icelandic events. Ash flows could possibly destroy everything that the flooding and earthquakes missed.

6) Finally, with the Earth just floating in space, the rotational axis of the Earth may go into flux and start lining up with the new magnetic pole, where ever that ends up stabilizing! It’s hard to say what would happen here, but obviously if the rotation pole moved just a dozen degrees any which way, it would ruin existing climates, and change the equator, as we have come to enjoy it.

Pure Magnetic Reversals are very rare in the geological record occurring only once in millions of years, not on any 12,000 year or 3,600 year cycle like Nibiru. To Nibiru believers I say: This is a completely separate scenario from a typical Nibiru encounter.

Nibiru never effects Earth exactly the same way twice, and has apparently produced a crustal displacement during Noah’s time, but not during the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt which resulted in the Kolbrin Bible. Nibiru may, however, pass in conjunction with a genuine magnetic pole shift and thereby produce double trouble! If anyone has information about this potential interaction, please share it.

Regarding ancient prophesies, and the various “future maps” offered by psychics, we are supposed to get a little bit of everything bad around 2012, ranging from asteroids, to land risings, to war, to flooding, etc. The solar reboot theory, or rotation reversal theory, as presented here, certainly fulfils most of the ancient prophesies, but not all of them.

Conversely, a Nibiru encounter would not appear to fulfill all of the prophesies, either. To fulfill all of the terrible ancient prophesies you probably need a combination of Nibiru theory, solar reboot and rotation reversal theory, and an Illuminati type of theory to get WWIII going.

There are hundreds of pages of ancient prophesy, from all over the world, written about the infamous 2012 time frame. 2012 theories need to work with the mystical prophesies and the practical sciences, to set people’s expectations realistically. The only specific religions that promise a rotation reversal, that I know of, are Taoism, Islam, Hinduism and Mayan teachings.

The biggest unknown, or weakness, with this theory, is whether or not the magnetic corkscrew effect is actually sustaining the Earth’s rotation. Cosmologists have long stated that the Earth’s rotation was created out of condensing gas and dust when our planet was formed about 4 billion years ago. The only reason it is still spinning at nearly the same rate as 4 billion years ago is because the Earth has no friction to slow it down.

This is about the stupidest theory I have ever heard as there are several, vast layers of friction, in and around the Earth, rendering this "perpetual motion type of theory" impossible.

Furthermore, Venus and Pluto are in retrograde rotations now so what’s so different about their dust and gasses? Venus could have been blasted alone, while Pluto is so far out it never gets blasted. All the older cosmology theories are dead by now. Everything in Nature seems to be based upon energy, many undiscovered particles, and the Fibonacci spiral so rotations of all sorts, seem to have a solid basis in universal energy, one way or another.

I would like to shoot this theory down, if possible, but I don’t know how to do it, so I bring it to GLP (Geniuses Living in Poverty). If you need some specific links I will try to supply them, but the only links I have support the theory and this theory needs to die.

Conclusion: If we cannot rule rotation reversal out, then we must be prepared for it. That would require many well stocked, underground shelters on higher ground, and I don’t have one, so please kill this thing before it grows.

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I like this scenario and I am therefore bumping this thread so that som of the more astro-thinkers can take a look and debunk. Kudos to the OP
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That's some pretty good doom!!!

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That's some pretty good doom!!!
Quoting: Rev. Moon Jew

To bad it's all bullocks then.

1) The first is from Paul La Violette, a respected astrophysicist. Paul discovered that blasting dipole magnets with 100 times their own power, flips the poles of these magnets, such that North is then South and vice versa.
Quoting: Ethericplane 944087

The magnetic poles flip. NOT the magnet itself.

2) The second important realization comes from Sir Roger Penrose, a theoretical physicist and cosmologist, who explains in his book, The Emperor's New Mind, that the momentum and wave function of a photon is a corkscrew or helix. He explains that all emitted photons must carry some mass because Energy is equal to mass times light squared (E=mc2).
Quoting: Ethericplane 944087

Every higher-level physics text book will tell you basically the same.

Planets, however, are not photons.

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OP have you read the ancient writings from South America and China?

South Americans wrote the sun DID NOT rise for 3 days and when it did, it rose opposite of where it had rose before (east) and no one expected it to rise in that direction.

Chinese wrote the sun NEVER set for 3 days and when it did, it set opposite (west) from where is normally set.
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I'm sorry to say I am pretty much in agreement with this theory of events.

Find a high cave or far inland underground bunker and store up a lot of food and supplies, it's going to be a wild ride!

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I don't see how a magnetic pole reversal has much of anything to do with the direction of the earths rotation.
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glp= geniuses living in poverty. LOL
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it will be very quick, 3 hours and its done
mountains will fall and rise again & water will fill the skies
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patrick geryl talks of this too..

I studied a lot on egypt and they talk as well of the rising in the west and setting in the east sun..

I think the ancients wrote to warn us but no one is telling anyone about it.

It will change time as we know it.. when it does happen..

Now that is the 64000 question..
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patrick geryl talks of this too..

I studied a lot on egypt and they talk as well of the rising in the west and setting in the east sun..

I think the ancients wrote to warn us but no one is telling anyone about it.

It will change time as we know it.. when it does happen..

Now that is the 64000 question..
Quoting: RedSheDevil

Can't make a new calendar till the wobble settles...

And the geomagnetic motions or earth just may govern our sense of time... or lack thereof.
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patrick geryl talks of this too..

I studied a lot on egypt and they talk as well of the rising in the west and setting in the east sun..

I think the ancients wrote to warn us but no one is telling anyone about it.

It will change time as we know it.. when it does happen..

Now that is the 64000 question..

Can't make a new calendar till the wobble settles...

And the geomagnetic motions or earth just may govern our sense of time... or lack thereof.
Quoting: Rex Kristos

I think so too.. instead of the focus on TIME and PLACE it will be PLACE and TIME... big change to our thinking...

Falseness to truth so to speak..
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Uh oh..idea

Combine this...

With periodic immersions into the interstellar magnetic ribbon SickScent has been covering.

Add what we know now in quantum physics and suppose we occupy a valence (dimension) in a larger vibrating particle (earth).

What happens to the electrons in the gas atoms of a fluorescent bulb when the power in turned on?

The electrons jump upward into the next stable orbit and give off light.

Another shell (valence) is formed...another "world" is made...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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OP have you read the ancient writings from South America and China?

South Americans wrote the sun DID NOT rise for 3 days and when it did, it rose opposite of where it had rose before (east) and no one expected it to rise in that direction.

Chinese wrote the sun NEVER set for 3 days and when it did, it set opposite (west) from where is normally set.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941750

That's right. In fact the Mayan shamans talk about this as a "magnetic" event, even though they have no idea how it works. This post seems to shed a lot of light on that.

Also, to the OP's point, yes even Christianity prophesises about rotation reversal. Revelations says the heavens roll up like a scroll, the optical effect in the night sky I assume of the Earth coming to a screeching halt and reversing rotation. The starfield smears across the sky turning bright dots into long lines of light.
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Uh oh..idea

Combine this...

With periodic immersions into the interstellar magnetic ribbon SickScent has been covering.

Add what we know now in quantum physics and suppose we occupy a valence (dimension) in a larger vibrating particle (earth).

What happens to the electrons in the gas atoms of a fluorescent bulb when the power in turned on?

The electrons jump upward into the next stable orbit and give off light.

Another shell (valence) is formed...another "world" is made...
Quoting: Rex Kristos

It makes a lot of sense.. perhaps post this link to the other thread and see where this goes..

I have been told and understood that time is changing from when I was a little child. I use to feel time if that makes any sense.. like the humming in my ears.. I feel time changing and places taking more meaning.

It is like when you are so aware that time seems to freeze or slow down to the point where what you are concentrating on what matters and why time is no longer a factor.

Ask any car accident victim or person put in tragedy or harms ways or someone so in the moment the moment becomes surreal. that classic slow motion like feel is from the awareness of place and no longer the awareness of time.

I have read a lot of material on time and the relativity of it to things. I believe the changing world and electromagnetic changes, are gearing us to the shift of time or the new world as some fear it to be. not the NWO which is the fear to embrace time. Time is to have control.

Anyone that has been in that surreal moment knows that time has no control over the place and actions.

so if you think of the world like a teeter totter.. exerting energy on one end to push up.. and releasing energy ont he other end to push down.. then think of the earth rotation as the teeter and totter.. in teeter it is the focus on place.. growth of earth.. west to east.. then to change to totter east to west.. or rest "time"

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its already happened a number times according to reports.

you must be a shill for the serpent. doesn't matter however, as it won't be happening again in this lifetime.

Those that would like to see such a thing are truly insane.

For what it's worth, its not a physical phenomenon but mental. you just think the sun is rising in the west because your mind has been turned inside out.

that's when you see the comet.
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...it is implied that the event occured at the death of Jesus...I wonder why that detail was left out of the books that wrote about the Jesus fellow.

I think it is intended for the reader to understand that it also happened at the time of Eden.

those are the days of the dead...when the dead outnumber the living on the earth.

but...it ain't gonna happen, I am proud to write. ha ha,
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There are a couple of experiments and insights that have been overlooked lately which have grave implications for pole shift probabilities.

1) The first is from Paul La Violette, a respected astrophysicist. Paul discovered that blasting dipole magnets with 100 times their own power, flips the poles of these magnets, such that North is then South and vice versa. This is important for pole shift theories because our Earth is a dipole magnet which means simply it has a north and south pole. This very important experiment was written up in Paul's “Earth under Fire” book on page 202, viewable on Amazon’s “look inside feature” so you don’t have to buy the book.

2) The second important realization comes from Sir Roger Penrose, a theoretical physicist and cosmologist, who explains in his book, The Emperor's New Mind, that the momentum and wave function of a photon is a corkscrew or helix. He explains that all emitted photons must carry some mass because Energy is equal to mass times light squared (E=mc2).

I paraphrase him: "If you think of energy as a highly diluted form of mass, you can imagine mass as a highly concentrated form of energy. Then one can visualize magnetic attraction and repulsion as streams of photons with their corkscrew shaped wave functions screwing into (attraction) or screwing out of (repulsion) each other."

Another way to understand this spiraling, torquing energy flow is to look up the “corkscrew rule” which states that the magnetic field, of a wire’s current, flows in a clockwise rotation when going away from you.

The point here is that if the rotation of the Earth is sustained by the known magnetic spiral from the “corkscrew rule” running up its axis, then this can be instantly reversed by a single blast of energy, from the sun, that is over 100 times the magnetic power of our magnetosphere.

This corkscrew of torquing current can be flipped like a light switch, it’s just too freaking easy.

For this to actually happen, first the sun would need to be energized by the local cloud of fluff that NASA claims is out there, or a galactic Superwave which Paul La Violette has proven, or just from the Sun's own solar maximum.

Then the Sun would have to be agitated to release this excess energy in a coronal mass ejection (CME or EMP) directed at the Earth. This agitation could come from a Galactic Superwave, a Nibiru pass, the Dark Star's gravity, or the end of the 26,000 year precessional cycle, or some other source we don't know about.

All of this seems eminently possible, to me. I am curious to know what others think about this possibility. The disintegrating magnetosphere graphs we see every day only lessen the amount of energy the sun would need to flip the mag-poles of our Earth.

The rotation reversal scenario is simple, with just 6 steps.

1) Teh Sun gets energized

2) The sun gets agitated to release energy

3) The earth gets blasted with over 100x magnetosphere energy,

4) The magnetic poles flip, but not the rotational poles, (yet anyway….)

5) The corkscrew rule, or effect, that presumably runs down the Earth’s axis to turn the earth (CCW in relation to the sun) would then reverse rotation. This would, of course, start braking the counter clockwise, crustal rotation and gradually slow the earth's spin over the coming weeks or months

6) The Earth finally starts rotating by the reversed corkscrew effect, so, the Sun rises in the West, Earthlings.

This may not sound too damaging to our world, but consider this:

1) The initial sun blast (CME or EMP) would probably shortout the entire electrical grid and everything that rests upon it, including cars, planes, communications, water pumps, gas pumps, lights, and refrigeration, etc.

2) The longer days and nights would produce extreme temperatures and winds, possible hurricanes and tornadoes. 200 hundred mph winds would likely flatten 90% of the buildings on Earth along with most crops.

3) The equatorial bulge of the Earth, which is 26 mile deep water, is only held in place by the centrifugal force of rotation. This would immediately be released and back-flow towards all coasts and seaports, not on the equator. The ports on the equator would become too shallow to navigate. This back flow would inundate all coastal cities and interrupt shipping and communications for some time. It would also force billions of coastal dwellers uphill where they would likely starve and die from exposure. Fighting over limited stockpiles and quarry would likely result as starvation tends to drive people crazy.

4) With the redistribution of water, comes the dreaded redistribution of water weight upon the tectonic plates. This would likely trigger massive Earthquakes and massive sinking of coasts and river valleys. The US Navy, according to leaked rumors, apparently thinks the New Madrid fault, running under the Mississippi River, would release 3 separate 9.M quakes when the Mississippi got to be about 100 miles wide. Such a series of quakes would liquefy the Midwest of America and destroy the crops and farmers so many depend upon. All the bridges across the Mississippi would be lost and the nation effectively cut in half.

5) With the tectonic plates in flux, volcanism would erupt like never before and release far more ash than we have with the current minor Icelandic events. Ash flows could possibly destroy everything that the flooding and earthquakes missed.

6) Finally, with the Earth just floating in space, the rotational axis of the Earth may go into flux and start lining up with the new magnetic pole, where ever that ends up stabilizing! It’s hard to say what would happen here, but obviously if the rotation pole moved just a dozen degrees any which way, it would ruin existing climates, and change the equator, as we have come to enjoy it.

Pure Magnetic Reversals are very rare in the geological record occurring only once in millions of years, not on any 12,000 year or 3,600 year cycle like Nibiru. To Nibiru believers I say: This is a completely separate scenario from a typical Nibiru encounter.

Nibiru never effects Earth exactly the same way twice, and has apparently produced a crustal displacement during Noah’s time, but not during the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt which resulted in the Kolbrin Bible. Nibiru may, however, pass in conjunction with a genuine magnetic pole shift and thereby produce double trouble! If anyone has information about this potential interaction, please share it.

Regarding ancient prophesies, and the various “future maps” offered by psychics, we are supposed to get a little bit of everything bad around 2012, ranging from asteroids, to land risings, to war, to flooding, etc. The solar reboot theory, or rotation reversal theory, as presented here, certainly fulfils most of the ancient prophesies, but not all of them.

Conversely, a Nibiru encounter would not appear to fulfill all of the prophesies, either. To fulfill all of the terrible ancient prophesies you probably need a combination of Nibiru theory, solar reboot and rotation reversal theory, and an Illuminati type of theory to get WWIII going.

There are hundreds of pages of ancient prophesy, from all over the world, written about the infamous 2012 time frame. 2012 theories need to work with the mystical prophesies and the practical sciences, to set people’s expectations realistically. The only specific religions that promise a rotation reversal, that I know of, are Taoism, Islam, Hinduism and Mayan teachings.

The biggest unknown, or weakness, with this theory, is whether or not the magnetic corkscrew effect is actually sustaining the Earth’s rotation. Cosmologists have long stated that the Earth’s rotation was created out of condensing gas and dust when our planet was formed about 4 billion years ago. The only reason it is still spinning at nearly the same rate as 4 billion years ago is because the Earth has no friction to slow it down.

This is about the stupidest theory I have ever heard as there are several, vast layers of friction, in and around the Earth, rendering this "perpetual motion type of theory" impossible.

Furthermore, Venus and Pluto are in retrograde rotations now so what’s so different about their dust and gasses? Venus could have been blasted alone, while Pluto is so far out it never gets blasted. All the older cosmology theories are dead by now. Everything in Nature seems to be based upon energy, many undiscovered particles, and the Fibonacci spiral so rotations of all sorts, seem to have a solid basis in universal energy, one way or another.

I would like to shoot this theory down, if possible, but I don’t know how to do it, so I bring it to GLP (Geniuses Living in Poverty). If you need some specific links I will try to supply them, but the only links I have support the theory and this theory needs to die.

Conclusion: If we cannot rule rotation reversal out, then we must be prepared for it. That would require many well stocked, underground shelters on higher ground, and I don’t have one, so please kill this thing before it grows.

Quoting: Ethericplane 944087

Hey OP!

I think you are a smart cookie. I think that at least you are looking at the facts and conveying them to those who will take the warning as just that a warning. All warnings are good. I have never been hit by a car...but I appreciate the warning that it could happen and I look both ways before crossing the street. I am not sure why this situation is not looked at the same way by more people.

I like your GLP definition. I'd like for you to take a peek at some things I am working on and see what you think, you can email me at iemail@cox.net, if your interested in another project to look into.

I pity this generation of College Educated Idiots. not that all College educated people are idiots. I am sure you clearly spell better than I do. However, somewhere free thinking and out of the box ideals get lost and everyines thinking gets all stepford streamlined in opinion and view. Either you believe A or B. Come to the table with C and you are kicked out of the club. Funny religions are this way as well.
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OP have you read the ancient writings from South America and China?

South Americans wrote the sun DID NOT rise for 3 days and when it did, it rose opposite of where it had rose before (east) and no one expected it to rise in that direction.

Chinese wrote the sun NEVER set for 3 days and when it did, it set opposite (west) from where is normally set.

That's right. In fact the Mayan shamans talk about this as a "magnetic" event, even though they have no idea how it works. This post seems to shed a lot of light on that.

Also, to the OP's point, yes even Christianity prophesises about rotation reversal. Revelations says the heavens roll up like a scroll, the optical effect in the night sky I assume of the Earth coming to a screeching halt and reversing rotation. The starfield smears across the sky turning bright dots into long lines of light.
Quoting: The Monk 762691

because everytime you put on the brakes on your car and then go into reverse- it leaves long smears of light in front and behind it....

mix in some xtian bullshit and mayan `end of the world' bullshit (that even the mayans say is garbage and you have...
`the monk'

brains an optional extra...
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thoughts are .

dna are receptors, light receivers, helical btw

perhaps thoughts WERE things, NOW in the eather(sp) lookin' fer a nice place to rest/matter .

Breath in the Love, blow out the dysfunctional

Magnetic areas, those places were standing waves 'stand' are healing, do photons respond to magnetic effects, radiation, light . . hello?

;>
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This is actually pretty good, and the corkscrew visualizatin is too, but make it become a slinky toy, by compressing it, and then when the slinky expands again, you get the object moving the other direction. It is going to happen. it is not just the sun involved in this, but earth energies itself too.

This is how planets cleanse themselves and repolarize and it shall indeed happen here.
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It is threads like this that make me wonder about you people.

The earth is not going to stop rotating and then reverse. Try at least to come up with things that are physically possible.
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I am so sure of the validity of what you posted that I have written a small book about how a family makes it through when this electromagnetic shift occurs. I have touched on the flooding of cities and the three days of darkness is in there too...I read about the electromagnetic pole flip from a long study of St. Germains spiritual writings.... He says it wont be a reversal of the actual poles of the earth but an electromagnetic flip...THOSE WHO SURVIVE will have to return to living off the land, until new power sources are introduced... It has happened in the past, we do get through however... and yes it would be wise to think about getting out into the country -- stocking up and learning how to nurture animals such as cows, chickens, goats, horses as they could keep many alive as they have done in times past..
I tend to be optimistic - and I also believe in the magnetic energy of large groups of people who can either attract powerful energies towards their cities or because of good intentions and not too much heavy karma -- and good cheer for each other not attract the magnetic currents to their area.... To my way of thinking some coastal areas could be spared ---because of higher vibes. Just my 2 cents worth - take it or leave it..

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2cents worth, huh, how nice of you to drop by, take care my friend.
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This whole thing about the Sun rising in the West came about as a practical joke played on one of the ancient priests of Atem-Ra. Atem-Ra set in the west, and the rising sun god Aton-Ra rose in the east. Well the priest and his disciples went on a trip through the desert. All around them, the homogenous sands of the desert. The priest laid down his portable bed to sleep on it, oriented according to his custom with the setting sun, and his little Atem-Ra shrine on his left. In the middle of the night, while he was soundly sleeping, his disciples picked up his bed and moved it 180 degrees. In the morning, then it looked like the Sun rose in the west, on the right, over his Atem-Ra shrine. He went about proclaiming this marvel to everyone. And every night thereafter, his disciples picked up his bed and moved it 180*. This started the story, and it refuses to set to this day.
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That's some pretty good doom!!!

To bad it's all bullocks then.

1) The first is from Paul La Violette, a respected astrophysicist. Paul discovered that blasting dipole magnets with 100 times their own power, flips the poles of these magnets, such that North is then South and vice versa.

The magnetic poles flip. NOT the magnet itself.

2) The second important realization comes from Sir Roger Penrose, a theoretical physicist and cosmologist, who explains in his book, The Emperor's New Mind, that the momentum and wave function of a photon is a corkscrew or helix. He explains that all emitted photons must carry some mass because Energy is equal to mass times light squared (E=mc2).

Every higher-level physics text book will tell you basically the same.

Planets, however, are not photons.

Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

1) The first is from Paul La Violette, a respected astrophysicist. Paul discovered that blasting dipole magnets with 100 times their own power, flips the poles of these magnets, such that North is then South and vice versa.
Quoting: Ethericplane 944087

The magnetic poles flip. NOT the magnet itself.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^what part of flip the poles do you not understand? it was never said the magnet flips, just the poles, duh..
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The magnetic poles flip. NOT the magnet itself.

Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

There is abundant evidence that the magnet does flip. Even Plate Tectonics accepts that "True Polar wander" (geographic Pole shifts) happens occasionally.

However Plate Tectonics is largely discredited by geologists that study the physical evidence rather than just computer models.

for a concise demolition of Plate tectonics see

or if that's not enough proof for you wade through the vast amounts of evidence here

What this means is that the abundant paleomagnetic evidence of what Plate tectonics calls "Apparent Polar wander" is therefore abundant evidence for "True Polar wander" or actual geographic Pole shifts.
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There are a couple of experiments and insights that have been overlooked lately which have grave implications for pole shift probabilities.

1) The first is from Paul La Violette, a respected astrophysicist. Paul discovered that blasting dipole magnets with 100 times their own power, flips the poles of these magnets, such that North is then South and vice versa. This is important for pole shift theories because our Earth is a dipole magnet which means simply it has a north and south pole. This very important experiment was written up in Paul's “Earth under Fire” book on page 202, viewable on Amazon’s “look inside feature” so you don’t have to buy the book.

2) The second important realization comes from Sir Roger Penrose, a theoretical physicist and cosmologist, who explains in his book, The Emperor's New Mind, that the momentum and wave function of a photon is a corkscrew or helix. He explains that all emitted photons must carry some mass because Energy is equal to mass times light squared (E=mc2).

I paraphrase him: "If you think of energy as a highly diluted form of mass, you can imagine mass as a highly concentrated form of energy. Then one can visualize magnetic attraction and repulsion as streams of photons with their corkscrew shaped wave functions screwing into (attraction) or screwing out of (repulsion) each other."

Another way to understand this spiraling, torquing energy flow is to look up the “corkscrew rule” which states that the magnetic field, of a wire’s current, flows in a clockwise rotation when going away from you.

The point here is that if the rotation of the Earth is sustained by the known magnetic spiral from the “corkscrew rule” running up its axis, then this can be instantly reversed by a single blast of energy, from the sun, that is over 100 times the magnetic power of our magnetosphere.

This corkscrew of torquing current can be flipped like a light switch, it’s just too freaking easy.

For this to actually happen, first the sun would need to be energized by the local cloud of fluff that NASA claims is out there, or a galactic Superwave which Paul La Violette has proven, or just from the Sun's own solar maximum.

Then the Sun would have to be agitated to release this excess energy in a coronal mass ejection (CME or EMP) directed at the Earth. This agitation could come from a Galactic Superwave, a Nibiru pass, the Dark Star's gravity, or the end of the 26,000 year precessional cycle, or some other source we don't know about.

All of this seems eminently possible, to me. I am curious to know what others think about this possibility. The disintegrating magnetosphere graphs we see every day only lessen the amount of energy the sun would need to flip the mag-poles of our Earth.

The rotation reversal scenario is simple, with just 6 steps.

1) Teh Sun gets energized

2) The sun gets agitated to release energy

3) The earth gets blasted with over 100x magnetosphere energy,

4) The magnetic poles flip, but not the rotational poles, (yet anyway….)

5) The corkscrew rule, or effect, that presumably runs down the Earth’s axis to turn the earth (CCW in relation to the sun) would then reverse rotation. This would, of course, start braking the counter clockwise, crustal rotation and gradually slow the earth's spin over the coming weeks or months

6) The Earth finally starts rotating by the reversed corkscrew effect, so, the Sun rises in the West, Earthlings.

This may not sound too damaging to our world, but consider this:

1) The initial sun blast (CME or EMP) would probably shortout the entire electrical grid and everything that rests upon it, including cars, planes, communications, water pumps, gas pumps, lights, and refrigeration, etc.

2) The longer days and nights would produce extreme temperatures and winds, possible hurricanes and tornadoes. 200 hundred mph winds would likely flatten 90% of the buildings on Earth along with most crops.

3) The equatorial bulge of the Earth, which is 26 mile deep water, is only held in place by the centrifugal force of rotation. This would immediately be released and back-flow towards all coasts and seaports, not on the equator. The ports on the equator would become too shallow to navigate. This back flow would inundate all coastal cities and interrupt shipping and communications for some time. It would also force billions of coastal dwellers uphill where they would likely starve and die from exposure. Fighting over limited stockpiles and quarry would likely result as starvation tends to drive people crazy.

4) With the redistribution of water, comes the dreaded redistribution of water weight upon the tectonic plates. This would likely trigger massive Earthquakes and massive sinking of coasts and river valleys. The US Navy, according to leaked rumors, apparently thinks the New Madrid fault, running under the Mississippi River, would release 3 separate 9.M quakes when the Mississippi got to be about 100 miles wide. Such a series of quakes would liquefy the Midwest of America and destroy the crops and farmers so many depend upon. All the bridges across the Mississippi would be lost and the nation effectively cut in half.

5) With the tectonic plates in flux, volcanism would erupt like never before and release far more ash than we have with the current minor Icelandic events. Ash flows could possibly destroy everything that the flooding and earthquakes missed.

6) Finally, with the Earth just floating in space, the rotational axis of the Earth may go into flux and start lining up with the new magnetic pole, where ever that ends up stabilizing! It’s hard to say what would happen here, but obviously if the rotation pole moved just a dozen degrees any which way, it would ruin existing climates, and change the equator, as we have come to enjoy it.

Pure Magnetic Reversals are very rare in the geological record occurring only once in millions of years, not on any 12,000 year or 3,600 year cycle like Nibiru. To Nibiru believers I say: This is a completely separate scenario from a typical Nibiru encounter.

Nibiru never effects Earth exactly the same way twice, and has apparently produced a crustal displacement during Noah’s time, but not during the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt which resulted in the Kolbrin Bible. Nibiru may, however, pass in conjunction with a genuine magnetic pole shift and thereby produce double trouble! If anyone has information about this potential interaction, please share it.

Regarding ancient prophesies, and the various “future maps” offered by psychics, we are supposed to get a little bit of everything bad around 2012, ranging from asteroids, to land risings, to war, to flooding, etc. The solar reboot theory, or rotation reversal theory, as presented here, certainly fulfils most of the ancient prophesies, but not all of them.

Conversely, a Nibiru encounter would not appear to fulfill all of the prophesies, either. To fulfill all of the terrible ancient prophesies you probably need a combination of Nibiru theory, solar reboot and rotation reversal theory, and an Illuminati type of theory to get WWIII going.

There are hundreds of pages of ancient prophesy, from all over the world, written about the infamous 2012 time frame. 2012 theories need to work with the mystical prophesies and the practical sciences, to set people’s expectations realistically. The only specific religions that promise a rotation reversal, that I know of, are Taoism, Islam, Hinduism and Mayan teachings.

The biggest unknown, or weakness, with this theory, is whether or not the magnetic corkscrew effect is actually sustaining the Earth’s rotation. Cosmologists have long stated that the Earth’s rotation was created out of condensing gas and dust when our planet was formed about 4 billion years ago. The only reason it is still spinning at nearly the same rate as 4 billion years ago is because the Earth has no friction to slow it down.

This is about the stupidest theory I have ever heard as there are several, vast layers of friction, in and around the Earth, rendering this "perpetual motion type of theory" impossible.

Furthermore, Venus and Pluto are in retrograde rotations now so what’s so different about their dust and gasses? Venus could have been blasted alone, while Pluto is so far out it never gets blasted. All the older cosmology theories are dead by now. Everything in Nature seems to be based upon energy, many undiscovered particles, and the Fibonacci spiral so rotations of all sorts, seem to have a solid basis in universal energy, one way or another.

I would like to shoot this theory down, if possible, but I don’t know how to do it, so I bring it to GLP (Geniuses Living in Poverty). If you need some specific links I will try to supply them, but the only links I have support the theory and this theory needs to die.

Conclusion: If we cannot rule rotation reversal out, then we must be prepared for it. That would require many well stocked, underground shelters on higher ground, and I don’t have one, so please kill this thing before it grows.

Quoting: Ethericplane 944087