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King of Cups

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AC--"King of cups, Aren´t you aware that your puny, made up answers and not being asked for here? You have an emotional problem."

REPLY--LOL!!! Are you a Christian? I´ll bet it was that last post that was the last straw for you!

Well, squirm if you must, but I will respond, whether asked for or not, to comments and questions posted here. It´s an open forum. As such, it´s open to comments from anyone. Including those frightened by what I say.
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Problem with King of Cups: :awhore:

Not getting enough attention on your fake trained for this thread huh?
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AC--"Problem with King of Cups: awhore

Not getting enough attention on your fake trained for this thread huh?"

REPLY--If this is typical of the loving Christian, I´m glad I´m no longer a Christian. Shameful representation of your religion if that´s the case. If not, guess you´re just a loser who can´t stand intellectual challenge.

BTW, the new thread was mainly for TFT who has, in cowardly fashion, avoided posting there. I´ve been here well before that thread was posted.
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King of Cups - "Excuse me, but where does it say that only certain people may use the Bible as a reference? And, what right do you think you have to tell me I cannot utilize the Bible as a point of reference if I so choose? You state I "lack" understanding--please be specific and clarify exactly what it is that you think I don´t understand."


You not only misunderstand the bible but you also misunderstand what i wrote, i never once said you could not use the bible for a reference. I did however give you some advice, the more you use the bible the more foolish and ignorant you look. I need not be specific as your posts are specific enough.


King of Cups - "As far as knowledge of the Bible being dangerous, please note that before I rejected the "Jesus is saviour" belief, I studied the Bible for decades and know at least as much as any preacher."


To know as much as any preacher is not very impressive as the world is full of educated idiots. It is one thing to have knowledge, but quite another to have the wisdom to put that knowledge to proper use.


King of Cups - "Please take your arrogance elsewhere because I intend to quote the Bible, or any other resource, as often as I please."


The arrogance you see is nothing of the sort, it is simply the truth.
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TFT-

Thank you for the reply to my question regarding "what´s really going on here"?

I know that this thread´s theme is about fallen angels and aliens, but thank you so much for answering my question.

And, if it´s okay, I have more discussion/questions along this same vein. If not, of course, just let me know!

Ok, if the Lord can see who will endure and who will choose to live by faith, then why is He making all to struggle? He already know what each of us is "made of"; and, whether or not we have what it takes. Why this process?

REPLY: Your question is an excellent question and one that is easily answered. Of course those who don´t know will have to in their ignorance make up answers that start with "I DON´T BELIEVE" or "I BELIEVE". Which is proof of the fact they do not know.

Now, One must have a relationship with God to know or understand the answer. God is a LOGICAL Being. Therefore I will start the answer with a most profound statement about God.

GOD IS ABLE TO, WITHIN A MOMENTS TIME TO DEDUCE FROM BEGINNING TO END, ALL THE DIRECTIONS ALL MATTER OR ALL NON MATTER EXISTENCE WILL TAKE WITHIN ALL HOMES, ALL CITIES,ALL STATES, ALL COUNTRIES, UPON ALL PLANETS, WITHIN ALL SOLAR SYSTEMS, AND WITHIN ALL GALAXIES in this Universe.....ALL AT ONE TIME!

What does this really mean? Allow me to bring it down to human level. We know enough about a snake to know that if we startle it and are close enough to it, IT WILL BITE US. We also know that if the snake is venomous that we will die without proper medical attention. You may have watched people who are broke continously and you know that no matter what increment of monies you give them that soon they will be broke again. God´s knowledge is infinite and He knows ALL.

God does not will or predestine anyone to hell. He gives everyone including His holy angels FREEWILL. In other words He knows you are going to blow your paycheck because of HIS DIVINE LOGIC but He still gives you the check to afford you a chance through FREEWILL. God´s deductions are flawless. God wants the BEST of the BEST in His kingdom and will allow the testings to bring forth the PURE GOLD.

The logic of God is like the "IF THEN; NEXT" statement in computer programming. Of course the computer would be like comparing an amoeba to man, in comparison to God. God knows that if you do THIS, that the NEXT thing will happen. I know that IF you place your hand in fire that the NEXT thing will be a burn. But I would have not predestined you to be burned, I just know all the steps. You would have been the cause of your burns. God knows ALL the steps that will follow any action taken in this UNIVERSE.

Let me tell you, I am not smart enough to know this all by myself. The Holy Spirit will lead and guide you into all truth. God be Praised!

Thanks for asking............. and ask all you need to Watchful Eye.
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Will answer more questions later today. Have a blessed day.

Thanks for reading......
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TFT said; "The timing of the rapture is as the bible has said, NO ONE knows the day or the hour. This is because God wants the best of the best and not people who may attempt to time their behavior based on knowledge of the rapture"

Total BS. The rapture is not in the Bible, so to begin with, TFT is taking the bible out of context. Furthermore, it is not because God wants some best of the best, it is because of Free Will.

Again, be warned, TFT; you are bearing false witness.
Jodido
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Boy, TFT, just read some of your last post; you are out there... A religious version of Nancy Leider :)
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Jodido

That´s the card game, you know. Jokers and wild cards and special no get to see cards and all that...

Secret cards...

secret players...

AND humanity´s face down in the chips. Only
the dealer knows everyone´s cards.

And the dealer has already dealt the last card for all human, face down. And
now, we get to see how everyone played their hand.
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Operator I see that, and I see that a good many different varieties of aliens (call it different bubbles of the holy sprrirt) are attempting to play (whether they have a perceived card or not). But, I have seen that everything is just permitted, and infact there is no free will; we do the will of god without knowing it. The funny part is that this extends to aliens; they also do the will of god without knowing. Joke is on them becuase, as they view it; they are standing on the other side of our veil of ignorance; therefore they think they know more whtas going on; but jokes on them :)
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:o) Very well say

hf
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We live in a dual world. For the time. And for me, it´s like watching an ongoing and endless Greek tragedy, where you know the outcome before you get to the end. I still amaze at how an entire species of spirits can be so very self-destructive to their own kind. Everything they do -and they know this, what´s more - just gets them into deeper and deeper hot water.
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TFT--"One must have a relationship with God to know or understand the answer. God is a LOGICAL Being. Therefore I will start the answer with a most profound statement about God.

GOD IS ABLE TO, WITHIN A MOMENTS TIME TO DEDUCE FROM BEGINNING TO END, ALL THE DIRECTIONS ALL MATTER OR ALL NON MATTER EXISTENCE WILL TAKE WITHIN ALL HOMES, ALL CITIES,ALL STATES, ALL COUNTRIES, UPON ALL PLANETS, WITHIN ALL SOLAR SYSTEMS, AND WITHIN ALL GALAXIES in this Universe.....ALL AT ONE TIME!"

King of Cups RESPONSE--This is not a profound statement, it simply is something we already know about God.

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TFT--"...FREEWILL. God´s deductions are flawless. ...IF you place your hand in fire that the NEXT thing will be a burn. But I would have not predestined you to be burned, I just know all the steps. You would have been the cause of your burns. God knows ALL the steps that will follow any action taken in this UNIVERSE."

King of Cups RESPONSE--This doesn´t answer the question of "why" we must go through the process of burning ourselves, i.e. what the purpose of that is. It also doesn´t explain how our actions impact others, though they themselves have not exerted their free will. For example, if an employer fails to pay his employees their weekly salary when due, and they are thereby evicted from their home, their suffering is not due to the exercise of their own free will. Their suffering is a direct result of the employer not paying them. The decision not to pay their rent was unavoidable and not subject to their will.

Reincarnation, on the other hand, does fully account for that impact on others. We are told that if we harm others, the karmic effect will balance out the harm in the long run. We may need to incarnate again to experience that harm to learn that we cannot do such harm to others.

The key to this life is that we learn to become better, to love. When we learn love and all of its aspects, we get as close to our Creator as possible.
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7/22/2005-----"Operator I see that, and I see that a good many different varieties of aliens (call it different bubbles of the holy sprrirt) are attempting to play (whether they have a perceived card or not). But, I have seen that everything is just permitted, and infact there is no free will; we do the will of god without knowing it. The funny part is that this extends to aliens; they also do the will of god without knowing."

I think this is correct. Over the long run, we wind up doing God´s will. We may stray from that, even over the course of many lifetimes, but eventually we "learn our lesson" and understand what His will is and do it.
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Good point there in bringing to light TFT´s logical deduction of what/who god is. It seems that TFT thinks of God as a computer, EG silicon based sentiency. But, TFT iterates that the anti-christ will be a computer. So, TFT, is the anti-christ god? Kinda makes sense because a real fundamental definition of Anti-christ (and I´ll iterate here that I don´t believe in absolutes) may infact be God. In my view God can be bad or good; its His choice.... Aslo, in line with this; if one does not know negativity; how can one know what good is? (or, positiveness...). In other words, in my book, God is God. All our christain prayers that say that God is love or good or our savior; isn´t this just a little wishful thinking? Who are we to say what god is or isn´t?
So, TFT, which is it; is God a computer?

My personal believe is that God is the universe(s). In this universe I can see a Vee Ger (from Star Trek movie) existing. Silicon based sentiency. And this would exist within God´s universe. That means that silicon based sentiency is a part of god.

About doing god´s will. I mean that we do it NOW, not sometime in the future when we ´figure out´ what god´s will is. There is a difference... Primarily, here on Earth, I see us as living out the heart of God. That is more what I meant by doing God´s will. Picture each one of us as individual thought projections from God. Its kinda like how information travels on the internet; not all packets take the same route to get there, but get there they do :)
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Jodido--"So, TFT, which is it; is God a computer?"

It certainly looks like TFT has reduced God to a ball of logic. Certainly He is logical, but I also believe he is merciful and compassionate, not the cold, hard unforgiving God who sends his creation to eternal torture.

In TFT´s (and his kind) universe, God gives us only 2 "choices": to worship him or suffer eternal damnation.

If our will is free, why are we then punished for exercising it?

In TFT´s world, why is free will extolled as wonderful but then is punished if we choose not to believe in a myth like jesus. In effect, we have no real free will. We must submit or suffer---eternally, intensely and without recourse, all for a decision based on the free will we´ve been given. That just doesn´t add up. Well, TFT, what does your special training say about this?
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Jodido--"Picture each one of us as individual thought projections from God. "

This makes sense, but I think that once we become aware or conscious we are then an individual capable at some point in the far-off future of creating our own reality, even beings, etc. We are, after all, made in His image...Just a theory, however...
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Let me now ask a question of you, TFT:

What is the connection between Elohim and aliens?
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Well my idea became technical: I see Earth as the heart of this universe; thats how it is special. That means that all the ´blood´ of the universe gets pumped through Earth. This would include some kind of representation of God, of which Jesus may be one such event... You see, in this idea, Earth is a melting pot or microcsom of the universe because all blood gets pumped through the heart....
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I can actually speak from some experience. They got me to admit it was because i had 666 in me. Who knows what they think of that number, but I related it to having the power of god in me. And, its like being able to do quantum mechanics; EG manifesting things. Becuase of that experience, partly, I see God as both a particle and a wave. Thats what quantum physics has taught us anyways :)

I also see humanity as co-creators with god, and that may be why aliens, or some, try to influense some humans; they are trying to influence reality.
But what/who is the particle and what/who is the wave? I figure huamnty is the wave; like 6+ billion pieces of god...
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For the love of a Weenerdog, you guys sure love arguing over what is more important, fact or belief. But is it not traditional for those of the lineage of Abraham to argue amongst themselves as to whom is the favored "Son" i.e. who has the accurate interpretation of God? But in the end, excluding objective reality, is not Faith nothing but interpretation of Myth?

Talk about "Does not play well with others..."

All this dissention is enought to Drive "GOD" to Suicide. But then again, who would want to worship the hollow husk of a mislabeled "Fallen Angel"

Yaweh = God
Yaweh = Annunaki
Annunaki = Alien
So Therefore "God" is an Alien,
and since All Aliens are Fallen Angels,
Then God is a Fallen Angel, and Thus Evil.

And Since "God" is Perfect and without Sin, then Christians worship the one perfect flawless Evil.
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wanna know something funny? TFT has yet to repsond to me in this thread :)

I had the same thing with Quantum Host.

I would do my take on God and such; and get no response, giggle.

Probably because TFT is really an atheist :)
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Thank you for your reply above, TFT.

YIC,
W/E
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Well, Jodido did you ask a question? book

W/E
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Yes, a few times. I think one of the first questions to Tft is what am I. If tft has such a good relationship with the holy spirit (which is a funny statement; the holy spirit is like the playdo we use to create reality...0 he should know who I am :)
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Important information from one of tft´s posts

Let me list the gist of what I say here:
1. ALL aliens are fallen angels/demons
2. There will soon be a public announcement
3. The announcement will introduce the aliens
4. The announcement will display their UFOS
5. The earth will have a full physical pole shift
6. The aliens will say they can save us
7. Aliens will present many gifts to mankind
8. Gifts will include cures for many diseases
9. Gifts will include new way of transport
10. Humanity will almost fully destroy itself
11. This destruction will be because of cloning
12. Genetic altering will also be involved
13. Humans will be mixed with metals and "chips"
14. The antichrist is a mixed human/alien clone
15. The antichrist was created by man and ALIENS jointly
16. The antichrist is a walking computer
17. The antichrist is a talking computer
18. The antichrist is a breathing computer
19. The mark of the Beast is a computer chip
20. The USA days are numbered (Babylon)
21. The USA is destroyed to make way for the NWO
22. Aliens are in full support of this action
23. Those humans involved in this destruction (TPTB) have been duped by fallen angels/aliens to help usher in the eventual leader of the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.....THE ANTICHRIST!

All infomation given through the Holy Spirit
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Another important post by tft:

GOD IS ABLE TO, WITHIN A MOMENTS TIME TO DEDUCE FROM BEGINNING TO END, ALL THE DIRECTIONS ALL MATTER OR ALL NON MATTER EXISTENCE WILL TAKE WITHIN ALL HOMES, ALL CITIES,ALL STATES, ALL COUNTRIES, UPON ALL PLANETS, WITHIN ALL SOLAR SYSTEMS, AND WITHIN ALL GALAXIES in this Universe.....ALL AT ONE TIME!

What does this really mean? Allow me to bring it down to human level. We know enough about a snake to know that if we startle it and are close enough to it, IT WILL BITE US. We also know that if the snake is venomous that we will die without proper medical attention. You may have watched people who are broke continously and you know that no matter what increment of monies you give them that soon they will be broke again. God´s knowledge is infinite and He knows ALL.

God does not will or predestine anyone to hell. He gives everyone including His holy angels FREEWILL. In other words He knows you are going to blow your paycheck because of HIS DIVINE LOGIC but He still gives you the check to afford you a chance through FREEWILL. God´s deductions are flawless. God wants the BEST of the BEST in His kingdom and will allow the testings to bring forth the PURE GOLD.

The logic of God is like the "IF THEN; NEXT" statement in computer programming. Of course the computer would be like comparing an amoeba to man, in comparison to God. God knows that if you do THIS, that the NEXT thing will happen. I know that IF you place your hand in fire that the NEXT thing will be a burn. But I would have not predestined you to be burned, I just know all the steps. You would have been the cause of your burns. God knows ALL the steps that will follow any action taken in this UNIVERSE.
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Yup; God is Vee Ger.

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