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There is no such thing as alians only dorks believe in alians
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User ID: 4009–“Forgive me TFT i will refrain from posting on this thread, I am sorry that the discussion has taken away from what you wish to express. If i do post again it will be a question for you.”

King of Cups– Why do you duck your head like a puppy to TFT? Get off of your knees and have some dignity for crying out loud!! You have as much right to post here as anyone, although I don’t agree with what you’ve posted. Wake up and stop putting preachers on a pedestal!!

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User ID: 742--"Well, ya know what I want to know? The story. Obviously Earth has been going through alot of stuff that we have become ingorant of. There is much evidence for there beingh some kind of seeding. Like changind us from neanderthal man to homo sapien man. There is also evidence that different forms of man, EG the five races, have either evovled here or came here. One story I read that was very interesting mentioned that many different types of ´human´ have arrived here, in different times, from different places."

King of Cups--The evidence I´ve seen makes much more sense than the Christian belief of our creation. A good start is Sitchen´s work and www.lloydpye.com, which makes an excellent case for intelligent design by someone other than God.

JODIDO--"But, I feel it goes much deeper than that, expescially if we are co-creators with God."

King of Cups-- We eventually acquire the ability to create something out of nothing. Read some of the more reliable out of body experience accounts and they´ve reported frequently being able to create something just by thinking about it (in the astral realm).
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King of Cups, have you ever read the book 666 Number of The Beast by Robert Heinlien? Thas more along the lines of what I mean by us being co-creators (I mean, I mean it literally; but we just don´t know it, giggle)
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Important information from one of tft´s posts

Let me list the gist of what I say here:
1. ALL aliens are fallen angels/demons
2. There will soon be a public announcement
3. The announcement will introduce the aliens
4. The announcement will display their UFOS
5. The earth will have a full physical pole shift
6. The aliens will say they can save us
7. Aliens will present many gifts to mankind
8. Gifts will include cures for many diseases
9. Gifts will include new way of transport
10. Humanity will almost fully destroy itself
11. This destruction will be because of cloning
12. Genetic altering will also be involved
13. Humans will be mixed with metals and "chips"
14. The antichrist is a mixed human/alien clone
15. The antichrist was created by man and ALIENS jointly
16. The antichrist is a walking computer
17. The antichrist is a talking computer
18. The antichrist is a breathing computer
19. The mark of the Beast is a computer chip
20. The USA days are numbered (Babylon)
21. The USA is destroyed to make way for the NWO
22. Aliens are in full support of this action
23. Those humans involved in this destruction (TPTB) have been duped by fallen angels/aliens to help usher in the eventual leader of the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.....THE ANTICHRIST!

All infomation given through the Holy Spirit
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TFT, question?

You talked about a test that Christians will go through. Does this mean starving or gathering their own food for survival, or does it mean they will be beheaded or something similar?

REPLY: Sadly, this will be a most trying time for Christians, that is scheduled for three and a half years and will be concluded by the rapture. I will post the scriptures that most Christians overlook as being related to this period.

1, Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

It should be noted here that Daniel that the Antichrist will "WEAR THE SAINTS OUT"; not sinners. The saints/Christians will be here during that time called "a time and times and the dividing of time"; which means three (3) and a half years. This **three (3) and a half year period is MOST significant and I will adress it later. I will note it with a double asterick **.

2, Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The dragon that is angry is Satan. He makes war "with the remnant of her seed (rest of the Christians). We are now getting ready to experience this WRATH OF SATAN which is before the WRATH OF GOD. The wrath of Satan is before the rapture and the wrath of God is AFTER the rapture; for God has not appointed us unto His wrath.

During the wrath of Satan, many who say they are Christians will fall away from faith; but their will also be true Christians who die for their faith:

1, Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have TRIBULATION ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

"BE THOU FAITHUL UNTO (when confronted with)DEATH"

2. Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Many will overcome Satan because their death will cause them to leave this earth and they "LOVE NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO (when confronted with)DEATH". The reason for this fearless stand is because of the words of Jesus that said:

Joh 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

They understand that they TRULY do not die; which Satan also knows but he attempts to frighten them PHYSICALLY. The physical part is only a small portion of our existence and God actually has a brand new body waiting for us called "THE MORNING STAR":

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Rev 2:28 And I will give him the morning star

"WE ARE INVINCIBLE AS CHRISTIANS!!"

Looking closer at this time of suffering I want to further direct your attention to where Jesus mentions why and when the suffering happens and where Rev. supports His words.

Matt 13:24 - Matt 13:30 PLEASE READ ALL VERSES

Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

This separation is done through testing and further supported here:

Rev 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

THE HARVEST OF THE EARTH ARE THE CHRISTIANS!!
HIM THAT IS SITTING ON THE CLOUD IS JESUS

Rev 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Note that this time an ANGEL is using the sickle and not Jesus as was the first time. These are sadly the lost and unsaved.

Finally, be advised that all Christians will not be killed. There will be a remnant who will leave at the rapture which will stop the onslaught. These few Christians will survive by their MOST STRONG dependence upon these facts:

1. 1Ki 17:3 Get thee hence, and turn thee eastward, and hide thyself by the brook Cherith, that is before Jordan.
1Ki 17:4 And it shall be, that thou shalt drink of the brook; and I have commanded the ravens to feed thee there.
1Ki 17:5 So he went and did according unto the word of the LORD: for he went and dwelt by the brook Cherith, that is before Jordan.
1Ki 17:6 And the ravens brought him bread and flesh in the morning, and bread and flesh in the evening; and he drank of the brook.

2. Ki 17:9 Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.

3. Sa 16:1 And when David was a little past the top of the hill, behold, Ziba the servant of Mephibosheth met him, with a couple of asses saddled, and upon them two hundred loaves of bread, and an hundred bunches of raisins, and an hundred of summer fruits, and a bottle of wine.
2Sa 16:2 And the king said unto Ziba, What meanest thou by these? And Ziba said, The asses be for the king´s household to ride on; and the bread and summer fruit for the young men to eat; and the wine, that such as be faint in the wilderness may drink.

David was fleeing the FALSE CHRIST for David was the TRULY ANNOINTED ONE not Absalom; for Abasalom represents the false christ/Antichrist here. Yet David was taken care of.

4. Mat 14:16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.
Mat 14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.
Mat 14:18 He said, Bring them hither to me.
Mat 14:19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.

Let me add that many Christians will be left for dead because many will forget that Jesus can raise them from the dead and will not seek to lay hands on those left for dead. There are many scriptures thoughout the bible that supports God´s ability to sustain His children.


YOU: I really would like to know this because I want to be able to prepare my children for what is to come. I have always thought that we will be raptured before all hell breaks loose, but based upon your info (which, as you said, the Spirit IS telling me you are truthful) this is incorrect, and we (Christians) will go through a horrible time. Can the Spirit be more specific on specifically what test this is?

REPLY: The reason for the errors made here by Christians is because of a misunderstanding of Daniel chapter 9 and especially the middle of verse 26. Many in error extend the information after the colon (:) beyond the period (.) at the end of the sentence. This error causes for the "he" in verse 27 to be perceived as the antichrist instead of JESUS; who it is actually referring to. The information after the colon (:) is only added information as required in rules of ENGLISH. If the writer had not expanded upon the first sentence with a colon(:) it would then read this way:

Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself.
(I have purposely left out the added info)
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Then and only then will it be undersood that
1. Jesus was cut off (crucified) after a **three (3) and a half year ministry.

2. Jesus was scheduled to confirm "THE COVENANT" for one week, which is seven (7) years.

3. But Jesus was cut off (crucified) in the MIDDLE of the week (3 and a half year ministry)and because He was crucified, He (Jesus)
"CAUSE(D) THE SACRAFICE AND OBLATION TO CEASE".

4. Jesus became the sacrafice Himself.

5. and for (because of) the overspreading of abominations (sin) he shall make it desolate (remove the Holy Spirit), even until the consummation (the end when all is finished).

6. There are only **three (3) and half years left of the original seven (7) year period.

7. That **three (3)and half year period is SCHEDULED to be the period of time of intense suffering before the rapture where the tares and wheat are separated; the FAKE Christians from the real Christians.

In conclusion, that **three (3) and a half year period will be shortened "for the sake of the elect" and therefore no ones knows the day or the hour of His return, but we DO KNOW the SEASON. That season is NOW.

The alien appearance will have much to do with this suffering as the alien INFULENCE ONLY upon humanity will TURN THE TIDE fully against Christianity. Note that their INFLUENCE is needed ONLY and not their interaction!

THUS THE ALIEN ANNOUNCEMENT AND DISPLAY!
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Anyone who doesn´t see the validity of TFT posts and the truth in what he says...

Just is not paying enough attention...
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King Of Cups

I just noticed you failed to address anything I said. You chastised TFT for not commenting on your post. I will not chastise you but how about not lecturing people for doing the very thing you are guilty of. You have had plenty of time and have made post after mine. I do not need you to reply and do not do so if you do not want to. That is not my point. You have the right to post your opinion and the right to ignore a post. If this sound mean it is not meant to be. I am not your enemy.

All of us here can disagree and still discuss things in a civil manner.

Have a good day everyone.

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p.s. I am on several different computers that is why the different numbers by my name. Thanks again all.
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"King Of Cups
I just noticed you failed to address anything I said. You chastised TFT for not commenting on your post. I will not chastise you but how about not lecturing people for doing the very thing you are guilty of. You have had plenty of time and have made post after mine."

I´m not sure what you posted. If you said something I either don´t disagree with or perhaps even agree with, I might not comment or add to it. I may not have anything more to add to something I believe might be right or at least a valid possibility. If there´s something I missed or you asked a question, let me know what it is and I´ll be glad to comment.
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This is what I said:

King of Cups and TFT,

God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. All the same, all different. Seems to me God is plural. Plain and simple. This may very well be an answer to your plural dilema.

To ask anyone who is human to explain God and Angels in terms that are easy to understand and correct seems a bit of a stretch. None of us can explain these things. See Job and the questions put to him by God.

Frankly I think your being silly.

That is of course ok with me.
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Jesus is the Greek form of Joshua, which means the LORD saves.


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from biblegateway.com
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From Luke Chapter 2:

21On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he had been conceived.
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Well mighty one who knows the bible explain where the name is derived from? Please set the record strait and let everyone know.

It is easy to LOL and ridicule some ones effort but please explain why


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Look, it is just ridiculous for people to pretend they know the Bible when they don´t.

All they have to do is pick it up and read it - or you can go here and read any book, any chapter of the Bible you want.

www.biblegateway.com

And Christians think it extremely appropriate the the name of Jesus (Greek translation) or Joshua (Hebrew translation) means ´savior´ or ´salvation´ or ´saves´.
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"And Christians think it extremely appropriate the the name of Jesus (Greek translation) or Joshua (Hebrew translation) means ´savior´ or ´salvation´ or ´saves´."

But, does it matter what "Christians think"? Or is it what YHWH thinks what matters? Did He name is son Jesus or Joshua [or Emmanuel]. Is this important? Well, the Bible cites time and again the importance of "his name". I leave this to your own discernment.

W/E
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Perhaps--"God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. All the same, all different. Seems to me God is plural. Plain and simple. This may very well be an answer to your plural dilema."

King of Cups Reply--This is the Trinitarian explanation, but that´s not what Elohim refers to. It means god in the plural sense, as in "gods". Your explanation has been Christianity´s way out of a significant dilema, which actually presents no dilema to one who is intellectually honest.

Perhaps--"To ask anyone who is human to explain God and Angels in terms that are easy to understand and correct seems a bit of a stretch. None of us can explain these things. See Job and the questions put to him by God.

Frankly I think your being silly."

King of Cups--Think what you will. However, this isn´t a pointless question nor is it one that cannot be answered--it actually reaches to the crux of religious/Christian dogma, i.e. who was the god of Genesis. It is intimately connected with the alien phenomenon today. Additionally, words can be examined and the true meaning of ancient works can be deciphered if we have enough honesty and willingness to accept that what we´ve always been taught might very well be entirely wrong. That´s what I finally had to conclude after being a Christian for many, many years and having fallen for the dogmatic, narrow and spirit-stunting belief system. It took a long while to get to this point and I kept trying to prove what I was seeing wrong, but I simply couldn´t find evidence against it.
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I am presently in voice chat on Paltalk. I usually preach there two nights a week from 7:30 until Midnight. You may find the link to Paltalk on my website and download the software. Look for voice chat room in the Christianity section called:

Endtime Deception/2 Thess 2:11 Matt 24:24.

Thanks for stopping by...........
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Will answer more questions this evening. Have a blessed day.

Thanks for reading............
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King Of Cups,

I agree that alot of what I have been taught in church is wrong. Such as pagan holidays and similar things. However, I believe that God created me, soul and all. I think I understand you to believe that God created your soul and aliens engineered you body. Is this a good description of your belief? Please verify my understanding of your belief. Thanks ttl.
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User ID: 789--"I agree that alot of what I have been taught in church is wrong. Such as pagan holidays and similar things. However, I believe that God created me, soul and all. I think I understand you to believe that God created your soul and aliens engineered you body. Is this a good description of your belief? Please verify my understanding of your belief. Thanks ttl."

King of Cups REPLY--Yes, that´s an accurate description of my belief. I think that in regards to our body or container for our soul, it doesn´t matter who made it. It´s our soul and spirit that count and I believe they have been created by God.
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user 789; do you know the concept of the mirror? Its basically an occultist view which states that life around you is a mirror of yourself (just gotta know how to look at it I suppose book ).
Well in keeping with my idea that Earth is special because we have Jesus (pun intended TFT :)), it may be that it is here on Earth that we as beings present to God the sharpest mirror image of ourselves. See? Of course to better see that hypothesis that there are lots (tons) of inhabitable planets out there....
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TFH: Curious as to your opinion of the "Nordics"...had several visits from a blond woman by the name of Zadkiel. She was also most helpful, kind, showed me some wonderful things.
They evil too?

REPLY: I actually don´t have an opinion about the "Nordics" but I can give you the facts as allowed by the leading of the Holy Sprit.

First of all let me say that there are not any fallen anges/aliens that are benevolent. They certainly have the ability to mimic good but the agenda is always the same. They seek the destruction of God´s children through deception. So since they are all the same whether Greys, Nordics, Reptilians, etc. It´s like buying a GM product where they use the SAME FRAME but change the body. All Aliens carry the same evil framework. They are angry with God for kicking them out of Heaven and out of spite and vengance want to destroy His planned workings for the Universe. All throughout the Universe God created plants, animals, insects, etc. He also created highly intellegent indivuals to assist Him in the Universe and on planets. First He created Angels and finally Humans. Angels were created before ANYTHING else was created. This is what any intelligent person would do if they want to build something. You need the proper tools. Angels are the tools for the Universe and Humans are the tools God use for Planets. All angels are the same and All Humans are the same. Anything in between would be Satanic deception disguised as angels of light. Satan is banking on this plan to cause for the destruction of the children of God.
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Asked:

1. Will the aliens be announced/introduced/revealed at the start of the Great Tribulation?

REPLY: The aliens will be introduced around the same time as the Great Tribulation period but before it´s inception. Also do not confuse the suffering of believers before the rapture with the Great Tribulation. The announcement will be the catylyst for the worst time Christianity has ever experienced in it´s history.

2. And the Rapture occrus prior to the Great Tribulation?

REPLY: Correct!!! Again though, do not confuse the suffering of Christians used by God to separate the wheat from the tares which is before the rapture with "The Great Tribulation" which is after the rapture.

3. Real Christians won´t be around to encounter the aliens?

REPLY: All will be around for the Alien announcement but for the most part that is all it will be; an announcement with confirmation and public fly overs to prove their existence. Not much encountering. Such will not be allowed. Also it would be dangerous for the Aliens to encounter a true Christian who understands the power of the name (authority) of Jesus. However after the rapture, there will be massive involvement and interaction in ways you can´t even imagine. The announcement and fly overs alone will be enough to cause MAJOR PROBLEMS toward Christianity! Decisions will have to be made by all; follow and embrace them or intelligently/wisely back away.
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TFT - What is the address of your website?
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hi
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tft Website is:

[link to pages.sbcglobal.net]
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How is sunny Florida?
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Buggy sigh

We just went through a few weeks of no wind; bugs come out... But, they say thats ending now :)

How is the build on your alternate universe going?
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