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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 17

 
Nancy Lieder
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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 17
ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 17

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Join us with your questions for an interactive discussion with Nancy and the Zetas!
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Starts 7:00 (19:00) EDT, 6:00 (18:00) CDT, 5:00 (17:00) MDT, 4:00 (16:00) PDT, etc.

Note the chat is in the Forum of GodlikeProduction, a pinned thread.
First they ignore you,
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Chat Ground Rules!
This Live ZetaTalk chat is to give the public the opportunity to ask legitimate and pertinent questions. It is NOT so that
1. debunking campaigns can hold sway,
2. or to throw out insults,
3. or to insist endlessly that the world is normal,
4. or to attempt distraction from business at hand.

This is not about censorship but about allowing those who want to participate in the conversation to do so for the designated time, without being harassed and without constant distractions.

If a question has been asked and answered in previous threads or existing ZetaTalk, I will say so and attempt to point to the location of the answers. REPEATEDLY asking the question will be considered trolling.

REPEATED insistence that all is normal, such as the weather or location of the moon, when others have noted and participants are noting things are NOT normal, will be considered spamming.

People who are only here to disrupt and attack and troll and spam will have their posts removed and repeated offenses will lead to banning for a period of 24 hours.
First they ignore you,
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then they fight you,
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1. Zetas told that members of elite or their servants can be supporters of neoconservatism only, but I noticed that usual citizens can support this ideology too. I feel that democracy lost its face, and America is embodiment of roughness embodiment and power. Civil rights are forgotten and all want a place under sun and a safety guarantee. They asserts that neoconservatism - successful ideology, telling about results of activity of Thatcher or Pinochet. How can zetas explain this fanaticism? And what can they tell about "economic miracles" of neoconservatives?

2. What can zetas tell about transformation of Men in Black? Why are not they ready for a life in the fourth density?.

3. Some people consider that modesty, suicide wishes or personal life principles are indication of egoism. Why do they think so?

4. In last chats I asked zetas about usual reality situations, thinking of certain people. Answers were exact. Can zetas know orientation of these people, reading my thoughts?
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Note to Fans

Don't ask the Zetas to respond to personal problems or questions. No personal counseling is done. This rule has been in place since 1996 when it became obvious that the clamor for personal counseling would drown out more important work.

Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002 when it became obvious that a plethora of websites making claims that could not be verified were cropping up, and the clamor for the Zetas to address every silly statement would drown out more important work. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.

Questions in these categories will be ignored without explanation or apology by Nancy, during the chat.
First they ignore you,
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then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
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Two tsunami buoys off near the Australian coast in the Coral Sea gave alarms during early April, recording arise in the ocean floor beneath them. The agency in charge of the buoys finally announced that one of the buoys, #55023 must be defective and would be replaced, and cleared the data from public view. However, more than one buoy was involved in the alarm, both recording the same readings. Buoy #55012 likewise recorded a drop in the distance between the surface and the ocean floor. The rise was dramatic. A GodlikeProduction thread
Thread: OCEAN FLOOR RISING BY 13 FEET PER DAY HERE
started intense discussion on the issue. And as one can see this area just to the west of the Vanuatu Islands is on the eastern edge of the Indo-Australian Plate. This area, Vanuatu, has been experiencing puzzling volcanic activity, and this part of the globe is very seismically active. Then we have what is going on at the opposite side of the Indo-Australia Planet, where islands off Bangladesh are sinking.
[and from another]
Disputed Island Disappears Under Rising Sea.
March 24, 2010
[link to www.csmonitor.com]
An island disputed by both India and Bangladesh has been claimed instead by the ocean, marking a rare instance where suspected climate change may contribute to the easing of a conflict. What the Indians call New Moore island and the Bangladeshis call South Talpatti lies in the Bay of Bengal, a region with large potential reserves of gas and oil. Satellite imagery shows the island now submerged.

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We have stated, since the start of ZetaTalk in 1995, that during the pole shift the eastern side of the Indo-Australian Plate will rise while the western side plunges under the Himalayas at India. Of course, this is the steady pace as the plates begin to loosen up and move. In the holographic presentation Nancy attended in November, 2009 she was warned that additional tipping of the plate will occur. The Indo-Australian Plate will tip sideways so that Indonesia can plunge under the eastern side of the plate. Islands in Indonesia will be affected by this plunge, ultimately, sinking. Do such adjustments happen all at once, or gradually? Both occur, but the trend is unmistakable long before a major adjustment occurs. If one side of a plate is rising, and the other dropping, will this be uniform, such that the entire edge of the plate rises or falls? Where Earth plates share rock layers that tend to move as one, there is never uniformity. What is seen from above are mountains and valleys, and what could be seen from below are similar. The plates are thick in places and thin in others. We have mentioned that rivers flow along places where the plates are thin, and thus have dropped due to lack of support. This is likewise true of ocean trenches. When a plate is rising due either to subduction by another plate or a tipping action, pressure on one end of the plate causing the other end to rise, what occurs? The plate will tend to rise as one but will sag where the weight of the plate can draw the rock layers down. However, this sagging will not occur where the rock strata is strong. Thus, an uneven rise will be observed. Sagging can cause the the thin area to rise if the heavy rock on one edge bends down, as the thin spot is lightweight relative to the heavy rock that has dropped.
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I hear and read that it could take months before this one will settle down. And for what I get this will go on unti and during the shift. There is another volcano on Iceland that also can get active. One that is close to the one that is active now. But today I read about a volcano that erupted on Iceland in 1783 and caused major problems in Europe with ash and so, cropfailures. My question to the Zetas. About the current volcano and the other ones on Iceland, including the Laki one. I feel there is a big chance that this Laki volcano will get active again before the shit, and that it will give about the same problems like the last time. Are my feeling on the right track about this? And can I assume that what is going on now on Iceland, since this island is on 2 plates that what is going on now over there is related to the tsunami that will impact the lowlands of Europe?
[and from another]
Laki Consequences in Europe
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The outpouring of sulfur dioxide during unusual weather conditions caused a thick haze to spread across western Europe, resulting in many thousands of deaths throughout 1783 and the winter of 1784. The poisonous cloud drifted to Bergen in Norway, then spread to Prague in the Province of Bohemia, Berlin, Paris, Le Havre, and to Great Britain. Inhaling sulfur dioxide gas causes victims to choke as their internal soft tissue swells. It has been estimated that 23,000 British people died from the poisoning. The extreme winter is estimated to have caused 8,000 additional deaths in the UK.

SOZT
Iceland hosts many volcanoes as it sits on the boundary between the great Eurasian Plate and the great N American Plate, which are spreading apart. The tearing of the Atlantic Rift has been predicted by ourselves to occur long before the pole shift, and is already occurring. This is just the start. Without question, Iceland’s volcanoes will be highly active from this point forward, with only temporary periods where the ash seems to abate. Iceland may be leading the pack, but volcanoes on the West Coast of the Americas, the Andes, and in Indonesia and elsewhere will follow suit. The dangers from volcanic dust are well known, no secret, and one of the main reasons we have warned that drinking water should be distilled after the pole shift. Will crops be affected in Europe and elsewhere? Without question, just as they have been affected by weather extremes since Planet X arrived in the vicinity. However, the spreading of the Atlantic to the extent that the predicted tsunami against the west coast of Europe occurs has not yet begun. This is just the start of this process.
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Question #1

Is Obama sts, sto or leaning towards sts or sto?

Question #2
Do the Zeta's anticipate certain kinds of physical harm done to a particular body part?

I mean which will there be more of?"Broken bones (due to the poleshift) or more flesh wounds, diseases, ect?"

Question 3#
I have alot of nightmares.weird thing is "I" enjoy them.
I like the feeling of fighting and rescuing. I like the feeling of being trapped and escaping or saving others. I also enojy horror movies and scifi.

For people like me.....is this a sign of helping others in the poleshift? Or of somthing more sinister?


Last Question #4
Which is better to survive an earthquake......to hide under an object or to try and guess where the triangle of life is at?

I have read many things about the triangle of life and that it is better to go into a corner or NEXT to a heavy object vs going under a table or chair.............is this true?


Thank you Nancy........
Thank you Zeta's......
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Good evening Nancy, the Zetas and all !!
In last chat the Zetas have told that we will go to 7 this year. The Zetas can tell the events that was presented in the holographic presentation that Nancy attended last November and which events will lead us to 7 are connected with rough tempo of the earthchanges i.e. they are included in it? Thanks.
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So many events happen now that strenghten my confidence in what Zetas say. But all this story with Dark Twin is one of the moments sometimes confusing me. There is a term in astronomy – “covering” – when one celestial body covers another when passing in front of it. At some days hundreds of astronomers watch in telescopes waiting how a tiny asteroid covers a star in a blink – they know approximately when this moment can happen.
Taking into account this, I suppose DT covers enough sector of sky for thousands of people to suspect something is not right. There are no any claims about this as yet… Please, comment this situation.
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evevin' nancy and boy are things getting hot!!!!...rumours of nibiru are making the rounds and gaining......
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What can you say about recent sammit on the problems of nuclear disarmament ? What were the aims of Obama ? And why was not Ahmadinejad invited on this meeting?
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Keeping an eye on the situation in Kyrgyzstan I see how its main officials run away from the country, the president stays at his native village (like “enclave”) with armed accomplices and when ordinary citizens try to burst through their rows towards the president they (accomplices) start to fire in air… It resembles me how the Zetas described the “last weeks” when ordinary people would collide with elite. So, may the events in Kyrgyzstan exemplify collisions between elite and ordinary people at “last weeks” ?

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Was the recent nuclear summit in DC a cover-story event staged so that Obama could discuss the PX situation with other world leaders? I've never seen so many military vehicles and blockaded streets in DC as I did during the 2 days of the summit.
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Would the three days of darkness bring an extremal freezing
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Zetas told that members of elite or their servants can be supporters of neoconservatism only, but I noticed that usual citizens can support this ideology too. I feel that democracy lost its face, and America is embodiment of roughness embodiment and power. Civil rights are forgotten and all want a place under sun and a safety guarantee. They asserts that neoconservatism - successful ideology, telling about results of activity of Thatcher or Pinochet. How can zetas explain this fanaticism? And what can they tell about "economic miracles" of neoconservatives?

SOZT
Economic miracles are those that enrich the rich, and enslave the poor and middle class in debt. If one follows the lives of those inclined toward the STS one finds they try to take advantage of others, steal the work product of others, and promote themselves into positions of greater control over others. If they succeed at any of these endeavors, they parlay their success in to even greater control over others, greater wealth at the expense of others, and more theft of what others have done. They then try to lock in the courts, the political arena, to support their advantage, and since they have accumulated wealth, they do this by bribery and by purchasing blackmail material. This is then called conservatism, but is only conserves the wealth and power of those already holding it.
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The zetas have said repeatedly they can't give a date for the poleshift, but can they say whether or not the earth changes will at least be so noticeable before the end of the year that even the casual observer would know that something is definitely wrong with our place in the cosmos?

2ND question, a corollary:

What would be the harm in telling us whether or not the "last weeks" (3 days of darkness, slowing rotation, visible Nibiru in the skies to naked eyes) would occur during the 2010 calendar year? Would it enable the elite to do more bad things if they knew we had that much more time before the shift?
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Hi Nancy and zetas.
Can a man who has no soul is interested in different things, think about good and evil, to be an idealist. Or they are not interested in this?
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What can zetas tell about transformation of Men in Black? Why are not they ready for a life in the fourth density?.

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We have described the Men in Black in great detail. Their transformation, like the transformation of the Annunaki, depends on many factors, one of which is how long their physical home can support their current culture. Mankind is not truly ready for their Transformation, but due to the pole shift 90% of mankind will die and thus their Transformation was administratively scheduled for this time. The Men in Black can live in their underground chambers long after a portion of the Earth and Sun migrate to 4th density. Likewise, the Annunaki are in no danger of losing their home.
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You said that animals have no souls. But how to explain their individuality? The trick, greed, curiosity, kindness, generosity and much more. Instincts, genes, reflexes that do not explain it.
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Hi Nancy,

A question for the Zetas.

You've mentioned in the past that being involved into 'physical action' and active fighting confrontation is 'counter productive' thus you do not use physical force.

The question though comes when there is oppression, when those in power use their might to enforce their will upon the others.
Do the ones under this oppression have the right to fight back according to your philosophy?
Do those in oppression can be justified when they revolt and try to fight back and be released from their chains?

When somebody gets your freedom away, and enslaves you with all the cunning means there are out there nowadays, are you justified to fight for your freedom? Are you justified to have a battle against them, are you justified to use physical force, are you justified to remove their lives (and send them back to seek another encarnation) in a confrontation if the situation comes?

Or will you stay stoically under the oppression just waiting for your freedom to come by ?


Thanks for any answer.
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You advise people to eat fish after the shift. But what about vegetarians? Is there an alternative?
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Everything is made of atoms, atoms are composed of energy. Everything is energy? Energy is infinite. Truthfully if this statement? Can consciousness control this energy? Thank you.
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Some people consider that modesty, suicide wishes or personal life principles are indication of egoism. Why do they think so?

SOZT
All creatures, intelligent or otherwise, spend a percentage of their thoughts on the self. Else, life would not survive. There is no such thing as a creature without an ego, even at the bacteria or amoeba level.
EOZT
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In last chats I asked zetas about usual reality situations, thinking of certain people. Answers were exact. Can zetas know orientation of these people, reading my thoughts?

NancyTalk: this is requesting personal counseling, which it not done.
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There will be a change of regime in Northern Korea before pole shift?
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Who are the "Trusted 12" referred to as Nancy's helpers in the ZetaTalk archives? Thank you.
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Question #1

Is Obama sts, sto or leaning towards sts or sto?

NancyTalk: this was answered in previous chats, check the archives
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Question #2
Do the Zeta's anticipate certain kinds of physical harm done to a particular body part?

I mean which will there be more of?"Broken bones (due to the poleshift) or more flesh wounds, diseases, ect?"

NancyTalk: question declined for being trival.

Question 3#
I have alot of nightmares.weird thing is "I" enjoy them.
I like the feeling of fighting and rescuing. I like the feeling of being trapped and escaping or saving others. I also enojy horror movies and scifi.

For people like me.....is this a sign of helping others in the poleshift? Or of somthing more sinister?

NancyTalk: this is a personal question, and thus refused.

Last Question #4
Which is better to survive an earthquake......to hide under an object or to try and guess where the triangle of life is at?

I have read many things about the triangle of life and that it is better to go into a corner or NEXT to a heavy object vs going under a table or chair.............is this true?

NancyTalk: this is addressed by triangle of life statistics, so go read up.
First they ignore you,
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I understood that some people do not like propagation of STO ideas very strongly. They are ready to attack the preacher. Why they have such position?