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IF THIS REALITY IS AN ILLUSION!

 
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IF THIS REALITY IS AN ILLUSION!
If this reality is an illusion it follows that everything is an illusion - meaningless because it doesn't exist. If this reality is an illusion it follows that any higher realms is illusionary, dimensions are illusionary, gods are illusionary and so on and so on.

SO if everything is illusion that means everything is meaningless and there is no right or wrong and so on. Meaning all experiences in illusion are valid and there is no judgement about it being right or wrong. IT JUST IS!

SO that would mean only our thoughts or consciousness exists and as consciousness we wouldn't distinguish between right and wrong because all is illusion and doesn't exist in the first place.

Einstein said something like "this reality is an illusion albeit a persistent one"

Did we create illusion so we could hear the sound of a dog barking or hear the stream as it runs down the mountain?

Did we create illusion to escape non-existence?

Are we just this one big mentally ill mind that can't deal with not existing so we escape not existing by claiming existence by entrapping ourselves here in illusion with our identification with this, that or the other thing.

Without this illusion I imagine we'd be pretty lonely! if we didn't delude ourselves into believing we all exist and this is real!

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that is a valid possibility. corvettes really shouldn't exist but the do, so might as well use the illusion for some fun and drive one.
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This reality is a illusion because we identity ourselves with the product of our creation, forgetting that our real I is creating what we call reality.

We are a creative consciousness in denial.
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I agree up to a point. Reality is an illusion, but there's not one reality, we all create our own reality. Therefore it is possible some realities lack a sense of right and wrong. Some realities contain religion, some don't. We invented language, laws, science, religion etc. to let our realities interact within a larger framework. That's just how I see it though.
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Did you ever attend school OP and learned some elementary math?!
Imagine two circles wherof one is small and is situated in a bigger circle. The bigger circle can contain more and different qualities than the small one.
Kids normally learn this at age of 11-12
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Didn't anybody wonder if we are not in different realities using the Internet as single cutting point between the different realities and thus arguing about what is real or not?

Some of what others had been genuinely writing on this forum made me wonder if they really shared MY reality.
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Didn't anybody wonder if we are not in different realities using the Internet as single cutting point between the different realities and thus arguing about what is real or not?

Some of what others had been genuinely writing on this forum made me wonder if they really shared MY reality.
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Don't think we can ever truly share the same reality, unless one could climb in your head and see/hear/smell/touch/taste through you. No scratch that...to know your reality one would have to become you. We can think alike though, so realities might be similar. Just my thoughts.
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No, I mean when the greys are claiming that I am dead or that a person that was close to me (and is still alive as we talk) had been killed by the NWO, I wonder if all of us share the same reality.
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If this reality is an illusion it follows that everything is an illusion - meaningless because it doesn't exist.
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Just because something is an illusion does not make it meaningless. Illusions often have much deeper, richer meanings.
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I'm so confused.
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.

"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...?
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This reality is the projection of an unlimited amount of finite upon and within the background of many forms of infinite.

Lucky us, we're temporarily stuck in the realm that's composed of beginning and ending, good and bad, positive and negative, pleasure and pain.
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If this reality is an illusion it follows that everything is an illusion - meaningless because it doesn't exist. If this reality is an illusion it follows that any higher realms is illusionary, dimensions are illusionary, gods are illusionary and so on and so on.
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It's not an illusion.

It's very real, reality has very specific laws and functions.

Where people get the idea that it is an illusion from I don't know. My guess would be them confusing their own imagination for reality.

SO if everything is illusion that means everything is meaningless and there is no right or wrong and so on. Meaning all experiences in illusion are valid and there is no judgement about it being right or wrong. IT JUST IS!
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You even created your own laws for what things should be if this is an illusion.


Rather contradictory don't you think? Since you've just gone and made an illusion real by giving it specific properties.

SO that would mean only our thoughts or consciousness exists and as consciousness we wouldn't distinguish between right and wrong because all is illusion and doesn't exist in the first place.
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And further creating even more laws as to how things in an illusion should function.

Consciousness is capable of making a judgement call you know. Knowledge is the beginning of consciousness afterall.

Thoughts help you attain that knowledge and understanding.

Einstein said something like "this reality is an illusion albeit a persistent one"
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Good job Einstein didn't say sleeping with children is okay.



Did we create illusion so we could hear the sound of a dog barking or hear the stream as it runs down the mountain?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 916411


Did we create illusion to escape non-existence?
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Who is it giving reason to your illusion?


Are we just this one big mentally ill mind that can't deal with not existing so we escape not existing by claiming existence by entrapping ourselves here in illusion with our identification with this, that or the other thing.
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Or is your subconscious filling your mind with mindless crap?

Without this illusion I imagine we'd be pretty lonely! if we didn't delude ourselves into believing we all exist and this is real!
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What exactly do you imagine with?


It's very real since it has an effect.
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This reality is a illusion because we identity ourselves with the product of our creation, forgetting that our real I is creating what we call reality.

We are a creative consciousness in denial.
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No, you're just under-developed spirits.

The real you is lost in the mess you're creating for yourselves.
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No, I mean when the greys are claiming that I am dead or that a person that was close to me (and is still alive as we talk) had been killed by the NWO, I wonder if all of us share the same reality.
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Well you know crazy as this sounds, what you're saying could be true. If you stop imagining time as a linear event and everything would be happening right now, past, future and present in one location. That would mean you're dead and alive at the same time and the person you were referring to would be as well. I'm not sure I explained it correctly, but I hope you understood what I'm trying to say.
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darn it, you figured it out. Yes, I made you all up and you have about outlived your usefulness.
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And what do you think I should do? Just send an e-mail to somebody unsuspectingly and telling: hey I know you are an alien in disguise take care the NWO is after you - love from somebody whom you will never see again because she will not make it the upcoming pole shift?

What the purpose of having a goal in life if you know you won't get much old anyway?
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darn it, you figured it out. Yes, I made you all up and you have about outlived your usefulness.
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If this reality is an illusion, my imagination sucks.
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And what do you think I should do? Just send an e-mail to somebody unsuspectingly and telling: hey I know you are an alien in disguise take care the NWO is after you - love from somebody whom you will never see again because she will not make it the upcoming pole shift?

What the purpose of having a goal in life if you know you won't get much old anyway?
 Quoting: <| NutOnTheEdge |>


Well first of all and please don't take this the wrong way, but our "realities" do not see eye-to-eye on the alien thing. However how do you know you will not survive a pole shift, assuming one is coming in the near future? Secondly a life is not measured by its quantity, but by it's quality. Some people can achieve more in the short time they get to spend here than others might hope to achieve in a life-time.
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I believe in Aliens not in the way hollywood is claiming it but if people of my reality then come back and channel in my reality things they should have said while they shared my reality and call themselves a grey - sorry I would call them an alien. Some have access to channeling technology that we don't have and I doubt we are alone.

Why I say I would make it? Because the people who are channeling that way are saying they have not seen up to their time so it's clear either the realities are forking or I will die. And they keep calling me dead/ a ghost (from astral travel most likely)
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The Matrix Illusion!


I thought long and hard how to get this message out to everyone with as much sincerity and meaningful urgency as I can. But I am no scholar or university graduate I fact I am dyslexic. But to me this is the most important thing I have ever written so please bare with me I am going to do my best. About two years ago after many years of looking into everything paranormal and conspiracy because I was scared witless of dying. I discovered a well hidden secret that this world we live in is a illusion. Which the more I thought about the more it scares me more than dying. I know how this sounds when first hearing this I thought no way, but please bare with me I'm going to do my best to explain all!


First I will explain why there is an illusion. It's all about money and power certain individuals, must of you will know who they are but for this purpose “The Global Elite” TGE for sort. They have accumulated their wealth over many years and they believe the more they have the more power and control they have, and they spend all their time making you believe in this but not notice or question this are their authority or their wealth while most of the world are in poverty. This is why there is the illusion.


Now I will try to explain how the illusion works. Basics are simple give you other things to focus on so you don't notice what is going on all around you. It used to be they convinced everyone they needed the church and salvation or they would go to hell. But with the invention of the internet the TGE super highway nightmare. As information became available from whistle blowers and other such like sources. They have had to up their game. Like not doing enough about crime on street level letting paedophiles and vicars get away with buggering kids, and murderers getting off with light sentences. These things piss you off and they know it but no matter what you say or do they keep doing it. How many times as it been said the laws an ass and a soft one at that. This is at street level, but on a higher level they create wars and terrorist threats that don't exist well unless they create it themselves. Their main weapon at this level is problem cause solution. They create a problem name the cause and then offer a solution and make you grateful. Good example is of course the 911 fiasco. That if you don't know it by now was all about Oil. Basically its common sense when you start look and noticing what is really going on like all that money in the Vatican that promote love and giving yet millions die everyday and I know before you say they do give some but this is a carefully measured amount not enough to make any difference just enough so you can't tell their tight bastards. All this and much more adds to the illusion hope this gives you some idea as you wake you will find loads more. I found one last week that I thought was sick T shirts for four year old saying “Hello Boys” how sick is that on a year old child's T shirt. I suppose the vicars and paedophiles like it but I think it's sick. Hope this gives you an idea of what is going on!


When you start to wake up and realise what is going on in the world. You go through loads of emotions like shock horror feeling sick then hatred the a overwhelming urge to tell everyone as I am trying to do now. Its just like the film The Matrix only this is not machine made it is man made. With programs ads and magazines gently titillating into thinking about sex and food all the time. So you get on with your lives and not notice what is really going on! But unlike the matrix I am no one special I'm no Neo. I can't unplug you, you have to do that yourself its sounds easy but its not as people around you will think you have freaked out. I thought for long time there wasn't anything could be done about this because they have weapons and army's around them. But then I they are only a few we are many. If fifty one percent of use woke up the rest would follow. They would have no one to fire their weapons and no army. They would be powerless and the world would be a better place. So please take the blue pill unplug yourself and wake up.


Thank You For Reading Please Take This Seriously And Wake Your Self Up!
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Stephen Hawking says the only universe that really matters is one with no black holes.
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It's complicated but if you really want to know the answer its in a book called "A Course in Miracles"....be ready to give up anything you believed about this world.
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I believe in Aliens not in the way hollywood is claiming it but if people of my reality then come back and channel in my reality things they should have said while they shared my reality and call themselves a grey - sorry I would call them an alien. Some have access to channeling technology that we don't have and I doubt we are alone.
 Quoting: <| NutOnTheEdge |>


I very much share your doubt about being alone.The universe/multiverse is too big a place for that. And if you say you've been into contact with beings from another dimension, who am I to argue with that statement. I've never had the privilege though, so you might understand my hesitance to entertain such notions.

peace

Why I say I would make it? Because the people who are channeling that way are saying they have not seen up to their time so it's clear either the realities are forking or I will die. And they keep calling me dead/ a ghost (from astral travel most likely)
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Be that as it may, question everything.
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It's all in what we would define as illusion. In the context of consciousness and creating our reality, yes reality is beyond a temporal existence and not a finite experience. Consciousness has many layers and what we see on the surface is a small part of the inner workings of our collective reality. So, the illusion is just a metaphor for explaining that spirit is the "real" world, not the material world we see with our 3D senses.
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It's all in what we would define as illusion. In the context of consciousness and creating our reality, yes reality is beyond a temporal existence and not a finite experience. Consciousness has many layers and what we see on the surface is a small part of the inner workings of our collective reality. So, the illusion is just a metaphor for explaining that spirit is the "real" world, not the material world we see with our 3D senses.
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Mouse problems, sorry
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I have not been in contact - that's the problem. They kind off seem to read my thoughts and I am then regularly targeted with customized channellings from third parties that did respond to my thought of the day or the previous day.

The thing with the multidimension is that I quite upset some higher dimensional being because using my telepathic knowledge, I was sending vibes of pain straight in the mind of 5D entities which did upset them up to the point that they keep lowering my energy if I start being telepathic again (however they don't do it too much or I start to be trapped in my own body).
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It's a construct of the real world.

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I agree up to a point. Reality is an illusion, but there's not one reality, we all create our own reality. Therefore it is possible some realities lack a sense of right and wrong. Some realities contain religion, some don't. We invented language, laws, science, religion etc. to let our realities interact within a larger framework. That's just how I see it though.
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clappa

that's how i exactly see it as well, fellow dutchman!
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It's complicated but if you really want to know the answer its in a book called "A Course in Miracles"....be ready to give up anything you believed about this world.
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Take some DMT and it will all make sense within seconds!


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"Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace." Bill Hicks (1961-1994)





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