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Blacks are the True Israelites of the bible - Undeniable PROOF

 
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If you’re not White; you’re not an Israelite!!!!!!!!

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Esau and King David where white.

They where reddish, described in the Bible.

nope! esau and david were brown skinned tinged with red. ruddy means reddish brown not white. this is an example of how king david would have looked, a ruddy color ... [link to realhistoryww.com]

compared to other israelites who would have looked like this... [link to realhistoryww.com]

real talk! stop believing the white lies!

Brown skin mixed with a tinge of red, pfft. If you believe that then I'm rainbow colored. Where have you ever seen someone with brown skin tinged with red?


i gave you a great example. whites arent and will never be israelites.
Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?

similar in looks as the ethiopians(africans)
does he look ethiopian... [link to i34.photobucket.com]

does he... [link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

does he... [link to thecst.org.uk]

can he be mistaken for ethiopian...
[link to www.paperlift.com]

are these ethiopians or israelites as described in amos 9:7... [link to www.sxc.hu]

i rest my case unless you want me to provide more proof tomato

LOL hahahahahahahahahaha. You are not a bible scholar are you? You must not of made it to far in school either. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah(breath in) buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha(wipe tear). God is saying in Amos that the Israelites are no more greater then the Ethiopians in stature, not appearance. To God they are both worthless, or it would be better understood that they are only worth what God prices them at. He is threatening them that he does not need them for He could use even the Ethiopians for His purpose if he wanted to. Which is shocking to them for they looked down upon them for there black skin(read Songs of Solomon). No mention of skin color there or physical appearance. If you are going to use that verse then you have to accept they are also white because the Lord compares them to the Phillistines which were from Crete, meaning they were white.
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you laugh to soften the blow from the truth. it reads as it says. now the philistines were white...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thats a joke! from what i know the philistines are descedndants of HAM..you know the cursed blacks as you whites like to remind we black people of? and guess who else were HAMITES? oh yes the Cush(nubians), Mizraim(egyptians), Put and Canaan. so if the egyptians are the cursed blacks of ham and moses passed as the grandson of the pharaoh then what was the color of moses? the bible mentions skin colors many times.
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Ok thats it I know the truth!!! Jesus was a Buddist!!! End of story good bye and have a nice day!! peace jp
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838779

you cant dispute it can ya? it proves who are the descendants of the israelites.

Deuteronomy 28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

46And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

thats how you identify the israelites. who on this planet are more cursed than blacks? oh blacks cant run a country, oh blacks are criminals, blacks are the n word, blacks have low iqs...this is how you all see blacks. even the fake white jews see the true black jews the same way.
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If you’re not White; you’re not an Israelite!!!!!!!!

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Esau and King David where white.

They where reddish, described in the Bible.

nope! esau and david were brown skinned tinged with red. ruddy means reddish brown not white. this is an example of how king david would have looked, a ruddy color ... [link to realhistoryww.com]

compared to other israelites who would have looked like this... [link to realhistoryww.com]

real talk! stop believing the white lies!

Brown skin mixed with a tinge of red, pfft. If you believe that then I'm rainbow colored. Where have you ever seen someone with brown skin tinged with red?


i gave you a great example. whites arent and will never be israelites.
Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?

similar in looks as the ethiopians(africans)
does he look ethiopian... [link to i34.photobucket.com]

does he... [link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

does he... [link to thecst.org.uk]

can he be mistaken for ethiopian...
[link to www.paperlift.com]

are these ethiopians or israelites as described in amos 9:7... [link to www.sxc.hu]

i rest my case unless you want me to provide more proof tomato

LOL hahahahahahahahahaha. You are not a bible scholar are you? You must not of made it to far in school either. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah(breath in) buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha(wipe tear). God is saying in Amos that the Israelites are no more greater then the Ethiopians in stature, not appearance. To God they are both worthless, or it would be better understood that they are only worth what God prices them at. He is threatening them that he does not need them for He could use even the Ethiopians for His purpose if he wanted to. Which is shocking to them for they looked down upon them for there black skin(read Songs of Solomon). No mention of skin color there or physical appearance. If you are going to use that verse then you have to accept they are also white because the Lord compares them to the Phillistines which were from Crete, meaning they were white.



you laugh to soften the blow from the truth. it reads as it says. now the philistines were white...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thats a joke! from what i know the philistines are descedndants of HAM..you know the cursed blacks as you whites like to remind we black people of? and guess who else were HAMITES? oh yes the Cush(nubians), Mizraim(egyptians), Put and Canaan. so if the egyptians are the cursed blacks of ham and moses passed as the grandson of the pharaoh then what was the color of moses? the bible mentions skin colors many times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959194

Did you know that it says in Amos 9:7 that the Phillistines came from Caphtor? Caphtor is Crete, that is a Fact. Look it up.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Are you Israelites more important to me than the Ethiopians?" asks the LORD. "I brought Israel out of Egypt, but I also brought the Philistines from Crete and led the Arameans out of Kir.
So I guess what you know is nothing. And you laughed, so that means you did it to soften the blow? Also you did not refute that no where in that verse does it talk about physical appearance.
No where in the Bible does it say that Ham was black. PERIOD. So you fail. And if you can claim that Ham is black then I can claim Shem was white, and the Israelites are Shemites. Besides if black DNA comes from Ham then the Israelites were not black for they were from Shem, and were not aloud to mate with other races.
Quote from Wikipedia: "The Philistines (Hebrew: פְּלִשְׁ&#151​4;ִּים‎, p'lishtim) (Arabic: فلسطينيو&#160​6;) (see "other uses" below) were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan, their territory being named Philistia in later contexts. Their origin has been debated among scholars. There is not enough information of the original language of the Philistines to relate it securely to any other languages. Biblical and related traditions differentiate between the original Philistines in the days of Abraham called Avvites and the later conquering Caphtorites who replaced them. It is theorized that the latter Philistines originated among the "sea peoples".

Modern archaeology has also suggested early cultural links with the Mycenean world in Greece.[1]

Though the Philistines adopted local Canaanite culture and language before leaving any written texts (and later adopted the Aramaic language), an Indo-European origin has been suggested for a handful of known Philistine words that survived as loan words in Hebrew."
People from Crete are white.
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959194

Better study up on the Battle of Tripoli, the formation of the Marine corps and the 1.2 million European and American slaves of black muslims genius.thwak I swear you must get paid to be this ignorant...

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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

you cant dispute it can ya? it proves who are the descendants of the israelites.

Deuteronomy 28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

46And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

thats how you identify the israelites. who on this planet are more cursed than blacks? oh blacks cant run a country, oh blacks are criminals, blacks are the n word, blacks have low iqs...this is how you all see blacks. even the fake white jews see the true black jews the same way.
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So, you still have not refuted my above rebuttal which means my argument still stands and you are still wrong. Besides there are no black slaves no so I guess they are not the ones(opps!)
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

*SIGH* God threaten them with captivity with the Egyptians because they just came out of there, it would be anachronistic to talk about Babylon. And I don't get it, because God threaten to send them as slaves on ships to Egypt he sends then on ships as slaves to America? Sounds flawed. Besides there were white slaves to, and I bet they were transported on ships too. How can one argue with something so stupid?
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for one that was not a threat but a future prophecy that was to take place. for one egypt means bondage in greek. so GOD is saying that he will send them(israelites) into BONDAGE again but this time it will be by SHIPS and they will be scattered across the 4 corners of the earth and sold as slaves. if you dont get that then you are lost or maybe its hard for you to swallow the truth.
as for the america part here is where it gets interesting...
DEUTERONOMY 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:


FROM THE END OF THE EARTH, from across the atlantic. not greece, not rome, not babylon, not persia...guess the nation? and I KNOW YOU KNOW tomato
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

you cant dispute it can ya? it proves who are the descendants of the israelites.

Deuteronomy 28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

46And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

thats how you identify the israelites. who on this planet are more cursed than blacks? oh blacks cant run a country, oh blacks are criminals, blacks are the n word, blacks have low iqs...this is how you all see blacks. even the fake white jews see the true black jews the same way.

So, you still have not refuted my above rebuttal which means my argument still stands and you are still wrong. Besides there are no black slaves no so I guess they are not the ones(opps!)
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And the world that is translated as for ever in English is the Hebrew word "`owlam" Which means:1) long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, ancient, world

So it does not have to mean for ever, in fact it could go either way. These are also curses that were apart of the old covenant which was fulfilled and no longer used. If you are a Jew or not it does not matter now because in the new covenant God does not distinguish between races.
You still have not answered one rebuttal showing that you are unable to argue further, meaning you are wrong. You obviously have an inferiority complex from being black. I'm sorry you are not white but you have to live with who you are. This is over you lost go to bed or rob a liquor store or whatever it is you do.
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

*SIGH* God threaten them with captivity with the Egyptians because they just came out of there, it would be anachronistic to talk about Babylon. And I don't get it, because God threaten to send them as slaves on ships to Egypt he sends then on ships as slaves to America? Sounds flawed. Besides there were white slaves to, and I bet they were transported on ships too. How can one argue with something so stupid?


for one that was not a threat but a future prophecy that was to take place. for one egypt means bondage in greek. so GOD is saying that he will send them(israelites) into BONDAGE again but this time it will be by SHIPS and they will be scattered across the 4 corners of the earth and sold as slaves. if you dont get that then you are lost or maybe its hard for you to swallow the truth.
as for the america part here is where it gets interesting...
DEUTERONOMY 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:


FROM THE END OF THE EARTH, from across the atlantic. not greece, not rome, not babylon, not persia...guess the nation? and I KNOW YOU KNOW tomato
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Sorry the old testament was not written in Greek but Hebrew.
And no Egypt does not mean slavery in Greek.
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Where have you ever seen someone with brown skin tinged with red?
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comic books.
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If you’re not White; you’re not an Israelite!!!!!!!!

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Esau and King David where white.

They where reddish, described in the Bible.

nope! esau and david were brown skinned tinged with red. ruddy means reddish brown not white. this is an example of how king david would have looked, a ruddy color ... [link to realhistoryww.com]

compared to other israelites who would have looked like this... [link to realhistoryww.com]

real talk! stop believing the white lies!

Brown skin mixed with a tinge of red, pfft. If you believe that then I'm rainbow colored. Where have you ever seen someone with brown skin tinged with red?


i gave you a great example. whites arent and will never be israelites.
Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?

similar in looks as the ethiopians(africans)
does he look ethiopian... [link to i34.photobucket.com]

does he... [link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

does he... [link to thecst.org.uk]

can he be mistaken for ethiopian...
[link to www.paperlift.com]

are these ethiopians or israelites as described in amos 9:7... [link to www.sxc.hu]

i rest my case unless you want me to provide more proof tomato

LOL hahahahahahahahahaha. You are not a bible scholar are you? You must not of made it to far in school either. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah(breath in) buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha(wipe tear). God is saying in Amos that the Israelites are no more greater then the Ethiopians in stature, not appearance. To God they are both worthless, or it would be better understood that they are only worth what God prices them at. He is threatening them that he does not need them for He could use even the Ethiopians for His purpose if he wanted to. Which is shocking to them for they looked down upon them for there black skin(read Songs of Solomon). No mention of skin color there or physical appearance. If you are going to use that verse then you have to accept they are also white because the Lord compares them to the Phillistines which were from Crete, meaning they were white.



you laugh to soften the blow from the truth. it reads as it says. now the philistines were white...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thats a joke! from what i know the philistines are descedndants of HAM..you know the cursed blacks as you whites like to remind we black people of? and guess who else were HAMITES? oh yes the Cush(nubians), Mizraim(egyptians), Put and Canaan. so if the egyptians are the cursed blacks of ham and moses passed as the grandson of the pharaoh then what was the color of moses? the bible mentions skin colors many times.

Did you know that it says in Amos 9:7 that the Phillistines came from Caphtor? Caphtor is Crete, that is a Fact. Look it up.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Are you Israelites more important to me than the Ethiopians?" asks the LORD. "I brought Israel out of Egypt, but I also brought the Philistines from Crete and led the Arameans out of Kir.
So I guess what you know is nothing. And you laughed, so that means you did it to soften the blow? Also you did not refute that no where in that verse does it talk about physical appearance.
No where in the Bible does it say that Ham was black. PERIOD. So you fail. And if you can claim that Ham is black then I can claim Shem was white, and the Israelites are Shemites. Besides if black DNA comes from Ham then the Israelites were not black for they were from Shem, and were not aloud to mate with other races.
Quote from Wikipedia: "The Philistines (Hebrew: פְּלִשְׁ&#151​4;ִּים‎, p'lishtim) (Arabic: فلسطينيو&#160​6;) (see "other uses" below) were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan, their territory being named Philistia in later contexts. Their origin has been debated among scholars. There is not enough information of the original language of the Philistines to relate it securely to any other languages. Biblical and related traditions differentiate between the original Philistines in the days of Abraham called Avvites and the later conquering Caphtorites who replaced them. It is theorized that the latter Philistines originated among the "sea peoples".

Modern archaeology has also suggested early cultural links with the Mycenean world in Greece.[1]

Though the Philistines adopted local Canaanite culture and language before leaving any written texts (and later adopted the Aramaic language), an Indo-European origin has been suggested for a handful of known Philistine words that survived as loan words in Hebrew."
People from Crete are white.
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AHHHH BOY! the island of crete was settled by the DESCENDANTS OF HAM way before those white folks settled around greece. THE PHILISTINES ARE HAMITES! BUT THE BIBLE STATES WHERE THE HAMITES SETTLED! NAMELY AFRICA(CUSH, MIZRAIM(EGYPT) etc etc...even your white scholars proved that the hamites were black! dont forget the israelites settled in africa, namely egypt and nubia.
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

Better study up on the Battle of Tripoli, the formation of the Marine corps and the 1.2 million European and American slaves of black muslims genius.thwak I swear you must get paid to be this ignorant...

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one problem the israelites are not white. sorry idiot!
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If you’re not White; you’re not an Israelite!!!!!!!!

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Esau and King David where white.

They where reddish, described in the Bible.

nope! esau and david were brown skinned tinged with red. ruddy means reddish brown not white. this is an example of how king david would have looked, a ruddy color ... [link to realhistoryww.com]

compared to other israelites who would have looked like this... [link to realhistoryww.com]

real talk! stop believing the white lies!

Brown skin mixed with a tinge of red, pfft. If you believe that then I'm rainbow colored. Where have you ever seen someone with brown skin tinged with red?


i gave you a great example. whites arent and will never be israelites.
Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?

similar in looks as the ethiopians(africans)
does he look ethiopian... [link to i34.photobucket.com]

does he... [link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

does he... [link to thecst.org.uk]

can he be mistaken for ethiopian...
[link to www.paperlift.com]

are these ethiopians or israelites as described in amos 9:7... [link to www.sxc.hu]

i rest my case unless you want me to provide more proof tomato

LOL hahahahahahahahahaha. You are not a bible scholar are you? You must not of made it to far in school either. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah(breath in) buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha(wipe tear). God is saying in Amos that the Israelites are no more greater then the Ethiopians in stature, not appearance. To God they are both worthless, or it would be better understood that they are only worth what God prices them at. He is threatening them that he does not need them for He could use even the Ethiopians for His purpose if he wanted to. Which is shocking to them for they looked down upon them for there black skin(read Songs of Solomon). No mention of skin color there or physical appearance. If you are going to use that verse then you have to accept they are also white because the Lord compares them to the Phillistines which were from Crete, meaning they were white.



you laugh to soften the blow from the truth. it reads as it says. now the philistines were white...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thats a joke! from what i know the philistines are descedndants of HAM..you know the cursed blacks as you whites like to remind we black people of? and guess who else were HAMITES? oh yes the Cush(nubians), Mizraim(egyptians), Put and Canaan. so if the egyptians are the cursed blacks of ham and moses passed as the grandson of the pharaoh then what was the color of moses? the bible mentions skin colors many times.

Did you know that it says in Amos 9:7 that the Phillistines came from Caphtor? Caphtor is Crete, that is a Fact. Look it up.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Are you Israelites more important to me than the Ethiopians?" asks the LORD. "I brought Israel out of Egypt, but I also brought the Philistines from Crete and led the Arameans out of Kir.
So I guess what you know is nothing. And you laughed, so that means you did it to soften the blow? Also you did not refute that no where in that verse does it talk about physical appearance.
No where in the Bible does it say that Ham was black. PERIOD. So you fail. And if you can claim that Ham is black then I can claim Shem was white, and the Israelites are Shemites. Besides if black DNA comes from Ham then the Israelites were not black for they were from Shem, and were not aloud to mate with other races.
Quote from Wikipedia: "The Philistines (Hebrew: פְּלִשְׁ&#151​4;ִּים‎, p'lishtim) (Arabic: فلسطينيو&#160​6;) (see "other uses" below) were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan, their territory being named Philistia in later contexts. Their origin has been debated among scholars. There is not enough information of the original language of the Philistines to relate it securely to any other languages. Biblical and related traditions differentiate between the original Philistines in the days of Abraham called Avvites and the later conquering Caphtorites who replaced them. It is theorized that the latter Philistines originated among the "sea peoples".

Modern archaeology has also suggested early cultural links with the Mycenean world in Greece.[1]

Though the Philistines adopted local Canaanite culture and language before leaving any written texts (and later adopted the Aramaic language), an Indo-European origin has been suggested for a handful of known Philistine words that survived as loan words in Hebrew."
People from Crete are white.


AHHHH BOY! the island of crete was settled by the DESCENDANTS OF HAM way before those white folks settled around greece. THE PHILISTINES ARE HAMITES! BUT THE BIBLE STATES WHERE THE HAMITES SETTLED! NAMELY AFRICA(CUSH, MIZRAIM(EGYPT) etc etc...even your white scholars proved that the hamites were black! dont forget the israelites settled in africa, namely egypt and nubia.
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Where has it been proven the Hamites were black? Please show proof. Also like I said if black DNA is from Hamites then Israelites were not black for they come from Shem and they were not allowed to mix with other races. Why anyone would want to be identified with what the bible calls a curse family line is beyond me.
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

*SIGH* God threaten them with captivity with the Egyptians because they just came out of there, it would be anachronistic to talk about Babylon. And I don't get it, because God threaten to send them as slaves on ships to Egypt he sends then on ships as slaves to America? Sounds flawed. Besides there were white slaves to, and I bet they were transported on ships too. How can one argue with something so stupid?


for one that was not a threat but a future prophecy that was to take place. for one egypt means bondage in greek. so GOD is saying that he will send them(israelites) into BONDAGE again but this time it will be by SHIPS and they will be scattered across the 4 corners of the earth and sold as slaves. if you dont get that then you are lost or maybe its hard for you to swallow the truth.
as for the america part here is where it gets interesting...
DEUTERONOMY 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:


FROM THE END OF THE EARTH, from across the atlantic. not greece, not rome, not babylon, not persia...guess the nation? and I KNOW YOU KNOW tomato

Sorry the old testament was not written in Greek but Hebrew.
And no Egypt does not mean slavery in Greek.
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Egyptians are white and they come from Ham. Mummies found have red, blond and brown hair. The Egyptians there now are white. And you cannot say that they were black before with no proof.
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If black people are so proud, why is it that they try to be white?
Straightening, bleaching, and so forth?
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

*SIGH* God threaten them with captivity with the Egyptians because they just came out of there, it would be anachronistic to talk about Babylon. And I don't get it, because God threaten to send them as slaves on ships to Egypt he sends then on ships as slaves to America? Sounds flawed. Besides there were white slaves to, and I bet they were transported on ships too. How can one argue with something so stupid?


for one that was not a threat but a future prophecy that was to take place. for one egypt means bondage in greek. so GOD is saying that he will send them(israelites) into BONDAGE again but this time it will be by SHIPS and they will be scattered across the 4 corners of the earth and sold as slaves. if you dont get that then you are lost or maybe its hard for you to swallow the truth.
as for the america part here is where it gets interesting...
DEUTERONOMY 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:


FROM THE END OF THE EARTH, from across the atlantic. not greece, not rome, not babylon, not persia...guess the nation? and I KNOW YOU KNOW tomato

Sorry the old testament was not written in Greek but Hebrew.
And no Egypt does not mean slavery in Greek.

Egyptians are white and they come from Ham. Mummies found have red, blond and brown hair. The Egyptians there now are white. And you cannot say that they were black before with no proof.
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who gives a shit if its black or whites... you people should get over your little egos and stop debating on who is more important. GOD! you're like a bunch of frigging kids. WAKE UP!
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If you’re not White; you’re not an Israelite!!!!!!!!

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Esau and King David where white.

They where reddish, described in the Bible.

nope! esau and david were brown skinned tinged with red. ruddy means reddish brown not white. this is an example of how king david would have looked, a ruddy color ... [link to realhistoryww.com]

compared to other israelites who would have looked like this... [link to realhistoryww.com]

real talk! stop believing the white lies!

Brown skin mixed with a tinge of red, pfft. If you believe that then I'm rainbow colored. Where have you ever seen someone with brown skin tinged with red?


i gave you a great example. whites arent and will never be israelites.
Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?

similar in looks as the ethiopians(africans)
does he look ethiopian... [link to i34.photobucket.com]

does he... [link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

does he... [link to thecst.org.uk]

can he be mistaken for ethiopian...
[link to www.paperlift.com]

are these ethiopians or israelites as described in amos 9:7... [link to www.sxc.hu]

i rest my case unless you want me to provide more proof tomato

LOL hahahahahahahahahaha. You are not a bible scholar are you? You must not of made it to far in school either. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah(breath in) buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha(wipe tear). God is saying in Amos that the Israelites are no more greater then the Ethiopians in stature, not appearance. To God they are both worthless, or it would be better understood that they are only worth what God prices them at. He is threatening them that he does not need them for He could use even the Ethiopians for His purpose if he wanted to. Which is shocking to them for they looked down upon them for there black skin(read Songs of Solomon). No mention of skin color there or physical appearance. If you are going to use that verse then you have to accept they are also white because the Lord compares them to the Phillistines which were from Crete, meaning they were white.



you laugh to soften the blow from the truth. it reads as it says. now the philistines were white...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thats a joke! from what i know the philistines are descedndants of HAM..you know the cursed blacks as you whites like to remind we black people of? and guess who else were HAMITES? oh yes the Cush(nubians), Mizraim(egyptians), Put and Canaan. so if the egyptians are the cursed blacks of ham and moses passed as the grandson of the pharaoh then what was the color of moses? the bible mentions skin colors many times.

Did you know that it says in Amos 9:7 that the Phillistines came from Caphtor? Caphtor is Crete, that is a Fact. Look it up.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Are you Israelites more important to me than the Ethiopians?" asks the LORD. "I brought Israel out of Egypt, but I also brought the Philistines from Crete and led the Arameans out of Kir.
So I guess what you know is nothing. And you laughed, so that means you did it to soften the blow? Also you did not refute that no where in that verse does it talk about physical appearance.
No where in the Bible does it say that Ham was black. PERIOD. So you fail. And if you can claim that Ham is black then I can claim Shem was white, and the Israelites are Shemites. Besides if black DNA comes from Ham then the Israelites were not black for they were from Shem, and were not aloud to mate with other races.
Quote from Wikipedia: "The Philistines (Hebrew: פְּלִשְׁ&#151​4;ִּים‎, p'lishtim) (Arabic: فلسطينيو&#160​6;) (see "other uses" below) were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan, their territory being named Philistia in later contexts. Their origin has been debated among scholars. There is not enough information of the original language of the Philistines to relate it securely to any other languages. Biblical and related traditions differentiate between the original Philistines in the days of Abraham called Avvites and the later conquering Caphtorites who replaced them. It is theorized that the latter Philistines originated among the "sea peoples".

Modern archaeology has also suggested early cultural links with the Mycenean world in Greece.[1]

Though the Philistines adopted local Canaanite culture and language before leaving any written texts (and later adopted the Aramaic language), an Indo-European origin has been suggested for a handful of known Philistine words that survived as loan words in Hebrew."
People from Crete are white.


AHHHH BOY! the island of crete was settled by the DESCENDANTS OF HAM way before those white folks settled around greece. THE PHILISTINES ARE HAMITES! BUT THE BIBLE STATES WHERE THE HAMITES SETTLED! NAMELY AFRICA(CUSH, MIZRAIM(EGYPT) etc etc...even your white scholars proved that the hamites were black! dont forget the israelites settled in africa, namely egypt and nubia.

Where has it been proven the Hamites were black? Please show proof. Also like I said if black DNA is from Hamites then Israelites were not black for they come from Shem and they were not allowed to mix with other races. Why anyone would want to be identified with what the bible calls a curse family line is beyond me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838779


where does it say that the israelites are white when the bible and historians say otherwise? you are just being ignorant or acting stupid. CUSH IS HAMITIC. CUSH IS IDENTIFIED AS THE FOREFATHER OF THE NUBIANS. MIZRAIM IS THE FOREFATHER OF THE EGYPTIANS. PUT ARE SOMALIANS ETC... your white historians already proven this. for one egypt was not a white nation. heroditus and ancient egyptian arts already proved that the egyptians were negroes. the israelites settled in africa and mixed amongst the hamites. the bible called africa the land of ham. moses passed for pharaohs grandson. so what color does that make moses. joseph was pharaoh amongst the egyptians. his brothers didnt recognise him. if he was white he would have stuck out like a sore thumb. white people didnt show up on the scene until the greeks. even your white racist comrades call black people the cursed seed of ham.
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

*SIGH* God threaten them with captivity with the Egyptians because they just came out of there, it would be anachronistic to talk about Babylon. And I don't get it, because God threaten to send them as slaves on ships to Egypt he sends then on ships as slaves to America? Sounds flawed. Besides there were white slaves to, and I bet they were transported on ships too. How can one argue with something so stupid?


for one that was not a threat but a future prophecy that was to take place. for one egypt means bondage in greek. so GOD is saying that he will send them(israelites) into BONDAGE again but this time it will be by SHIPS and they will be scattered across the 4 corners of the earth and sold as slaves. if you dont get that then you are lost or maybe its hard for you to swallow the truth.
as for the america part here is where it gets interesting...
DEUTERONOMY 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:


FROM THE END OF THE EARTH, from across the atlantic. not greece, not rome, not babylon, not persia...guess the nation? and I KNOW YOU KNOW tomato

Sorry the old testament was not written in Greek but Hebrew.
And no Egypt does not mean slavery in Greek.

Egyptians are white and they come from Ham. Mummies found have red, blond and brown hair. The Egyptians there now are white. And you cannot say that they were black before with no proof.

[link to www.white-history.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
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NOW YOU JUST FUCKING WITH ME!
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who gives a shit if its black or whites... you people should get over your little egos and stop debating on who is more important. GOD! you're like a bunch of frigging kids. WAKE UP!
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It has nothing to do with black or white, but what it has to do with is rewriting of history.
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If you’re not White; you’re not an Israelite!!!!!!!!

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Esau and King David where white.

They where reddish, described in the Bible.

nope! esau and david were brown skinned tinged with red. ruddy means reddish brown not white. this is an example of how king david would have looked, a ruddy color ... [link to realhistoryww.com]

compared to other israelites who would have looked like this... [link to realhistoryww.com]

real talk! stop believing the white lies!

Brown skin mixed with a tinge of red, pfft. If you believe that then I'm rainbow colored. Where have you ever seen someone with brown skin tinged with red?


i gave you a great example. whites arent and will never be israelites.
Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?

similar in looks as the ethiopians(africans)
does he look ethiopian... [link to i34.photobucket.com]

does he... [link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

does he... [link to thecst.org.uk]

can he be mistaken for ethiopian...
[link to www.paperlift.com]

are these ethiopians or israelites as described in amos 9:7... [link to www.sxc.hu]

i rest my case unless you want me to provide more proof tomato

LOL hahahahahahahahahaha. You are not a bible scholar are you? You must not of made it to far in school either. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah(breath in) buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha(wipe tear). God is saying in Amos that the Israelites are no more greater then the Ethiopians in stature, not appearance. To God they are both worthless, or it would be better understood that they are only worth what God prices them at. He is threatening them that he does not need them for He could use even the Ethiopians for His purpose if he wanted to. Which is shocking to them for they looked down upon them for there black skin(read Songs of Solomon). No mention of skin color there or physical appearance. If you are going to use that verse then you have to accept they are also white because the Lord compares them to the Phillistines which were from Crete, meaning they were white.



you laugh to soften the blow from the truth. it reads as it says. now the philistines were white...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thats a joke! from what i know the philistines are descedndants of HAM..you know the cursed blacks as you whites like to remind we black people of? and guess who else were HAMITES? oh yes the Cush(nubians), Mizraim(egyptians), Put and Canaan. so if the egyptians are the cursed blacks of ham and moses passed as the grandson of the pharaoh then what was the color of moses? the bible mentions skin colors many times.

Did you know that it says in Amos 9:7 that the Phillistines came from Caphtor? Caphtor is Crete, that is a Fact. Look it up.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Are you Israelites more important to me than the Ethiopians?" asks the LORD. "I brought Israel out of Egypt, but I also brought the Philistines from Crete and led the Arameans out of Kir.
So I guess what you know is nothing. And you laughed, so that means you did it to soften the blow? Also you did not refute that no where in that verse does it talk about physical appearance.
No where in the Bible does it say that Ham was black. PERIOD. So you fail. And if you can claim that Ham is black then I can claim Shem was white, and the Israelites are Shemites. Besides if black DNA comes from Ham then the Israelites were not black for they were from Shem, and were not aloud to mate with other races.
Quote from Wikipedia: "The Philistines (Hebrew: פְּלִשְׁ&#151​4;ִּים‎, p'lishtim) (Arabic: فلسطينيو&#160​6;) (see "other uses" below) were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan, their territory being named Philistia in later contexts. Their origin has been debated among scholars. There is not enough information of the original language of the Philistines to relate it securely to any other languages. Biblical and related traditions differentiate between the original Philistines in the days of Abraham called Avvites and the later conquering Caphtorites who replaced them. It is theorized that the latter Philistines originated among the "sea peoples".

Modern archaeology has also suggested early cultural links with the Mycenean world in Greece.[1]

Though the Philistines adopted local Canaanite culture and language before leaving any written texts (and later adopted the Aramaic language), an Indo-European origin has been suggested for a handful of known Philistine words that survived as loan words in Hebrew."
People from Crete are white.


AHHHH BOY! the island of crete was settled by the DESCENDANTS OF HAM way before those white folks settled around greece. THE PHILISTINES ARE HAMITES! BUT THE BIBLE STATES WHERE THE HAMITES SETTLED! NAMELY AFRICA(CUSH, MIZRAIM(EGYPT) etc etc...even your white scholars proved that the hamites were black! dont forget the israelites settled in africa, namely egypt and nubia.

Where has it been proven the Hamites were black? Please show proof. Also like I said if black DNA is from Hamites then Israelites were not black for they come from Shem and they were not allowed to mix with other races. Why anyone would want to be identified with what the bible calls a curse family line is beyond me.


where does it say that the israelites are white when the bible and historians say otherwise? you are just being ignorant or acting stupid. CUSH IS HAMITIC. CUSH IS IDENTIFIED AS THE FOREFATHER OF THE NUBIANS. MIZRAIM IS THE FOREFATHER OF THE EGYPTIANS. PUT ARE SOMALIANS ETC... your white historians already proven this. for one egypt was not a white nation. heroditus and ancient egyptian arts already proved that the egyptians were negroes. the israelites settled in africa and mixed amongst the hamites. the bible called africa the land of ham. moses passed for pharaohs grandson. so what color does that make moses. joseph was pharaoh amongst the egyptians. his brothers didnt recognise him. if he was white he would have stuck out like a sore thumb. white people didnt show up on the scene until the greeks. even your white racist comrades call black people the cursed seed of ham.
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The bible says they are white in Leviticus, and also when it says David was ruddy. The Bible does not say that Egyptians are black nor does it say Ham was either. Period.
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

*SIGH* God threaten them with captivity with the Egyptians because they just came out of there, it would be anachronistic to talk about Babylon. And I don't get it, because God threaten to send them as slaves on ships to Egypt he sends then on ships as slaves to America? Sounds flawed. Besides there were white slaves to, and I bet they were transported on ships too. How can one argue with something so stupid?


for one that was not a threat but a future prophecy that was to take place. for one egypt means bondage in greek. so GOD is saying that he will send them(israelites) into BONDAGE again but this time it will be by SHIPS and they will be scattered across the 4 corners of the earth and sold as slaves. if you dont get that then you are lost or maybe its hard for you to swallow the truth.
as for the america part here is where it gets interesting...
DEUTERONOMY 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:


FROM THE END OF THE EARTH, from across the atlantic. not greece, not rome, not babylon, not persia...guess the nation? and I KNOW YOU KNOW tomato

Sorry the old testament was not written in Greek but Hebrew.
And no Egypt does not mean slavery in Greek.

Egyptians are white and they come from Ham. Mummies found have red, blond and brown hair. The Egyptians there now are white. And you cannot say that they were black before with no proof.

[link to www.white-history.com]
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NOW YOU JUST FUCKING WITH ME!
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Nope, just facts, deal with it.
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Ham had four sons, Cush, Mizraim, Phut and Canaan

Black people are descendants of Canaan


Moses 8, 12

8 For behold, the Lord shall curse the land with much heat, and the barrenness thereof shall go forth forever; and there was a blackness came upon all the children of Canaan, that they were despised among all people.

12 And it came to pass that Enoch continued to call upon all the people, save it were the people of Canaan, to repent;



So you see the blacks are not despised of all people because they are Israelites as you claim, rather it is because they are descendants of Canaan who was one of the sons of Ham.


Gen. 9: 18, 22, 25-27
18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
• • •
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his aservant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
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If you’re not White; you’re not an Israelite!!!!!!!!

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Esau and King David where white.

They where reddish, described in the Bible.

nope! esau and david were brown skinned tinged with red. ruddy means reddish brown not white. this is an example of how king david would have looked, a ruddy color ... [link to realhistoryww.com]

compared to other israelites who would have looked like this... [link to realhistoryww.com]

real talk! stop believing the white lies!

Brown skin mixed with a tinge of red, pfft. If you believe that then I'm rainbow colored. Where have you ever seen someone with brown skin tinged with red?


i gave you a great example. whites arent and will never be israelites.
Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?

similar in looks as the ethiopians(africans)
does he look ethiopian... [link to i34.photobucket.com]

does he... [link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

does he... [link to thecst.org.uk]

can he be mistaken for ethiopian...
[link to www.paperlift.com]

are these ethiopians or israelites as described in amos 9:7... [link to www.sxc.hu]

i rest my case unless you want me to provide more proof tomato

LOL hahahahahahahahahaha. You are not a bible scholar are you? You must not of made it to far in school either. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah(breath in) buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha(wipe tear). God is saying in Amos that the Israelites are no more greater then the Ethiopians in stature, not appearance. To God they are both worthless, or it would be better understood that they are only worth what God prices them at. He is threatening them that he does not need them for He could use even the Ethiopians for His purpose if he wanted to. Which is shocking to them for they looked down upon them for there black skin(read Songs of Solomon). No mention of skin color there or physical appearance. If you are going to use that verse then you have to accept they are also white because the Lord compares them to the Phillistines which were from Crete, meaning they were white.



you laugh to soften the blow from the truth. it reads as it says. now the philistines were white...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thats a joke! from what i know the philistines are descedndants of HAM..you know the cursed blacks as you whites like to remind we black people of? and guess who else were HAMITES? oh yes the Cush(nubians), Mizraim(egyptians), Put and Canaan. so if the egyptians are the cursed blacks of ham and moses passed as the grandson of the pharaoh then what was the color of moses? the bible mentions skin colors many times.

Did you know that it says in Amos 9:7 that the Phillistines came from Caphtor? Caphtor is Crete, that is a Fact. Look it up.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Are you Israelites more important to me than the Ethiopians?" asks the LORD. "I brought Israel out of Egypt, but I also brought the Philistines from Crete and led the Arameans out of Kir.
So I guess what you know is nothing. And you laughed, so that means you did it to soften the blow? Also you did not refute that no where in that verse does it talk about physical appearance.
No where in the Bible does it say that Ham was black. PERIOD. So you fail. And if you can claim that Ham is black then I can claim Shem was white, and the Israelites are Shemites. Besides if black DNA comes from Ham then the Israelites were not black for they were from Shem, and were not aloud to mate with other races.
Quote from Wikipedia: "The Philistines (Hebrew: פְּלִשְׁ&#151​4;ִּים‎, p'lishtim) (Arabic: فلسطينيو&#160​6;) (see "other uses" below) were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan, their territory being named Philistia in later contexts. Their origin has been debated among scholars. There is not enough information of the original language of the Philistines to relate it securely to any other languages. Biblical and related traditions differentiate between the original Philistines in the days of Abraham called Avvites and the later conquering Caphtorites who replaced them. It is theorized that the latter Philistines originated among the "sea peoples".

Modern archaeology has also suggested early cultural links with the Mycenean world in Greece.[1]

Though the Philistines adopted local Canaanite culture and language before leaving any written texts (and later adopted the Aramaic language), an Indo-European origin has been suggested for a handful of known Philistine words that survived as loan words in Hebrew."
People from Crete are white.


AHHHH BOY! the island of crete was settled by the DESCENDANTS OF HAM way before those white folks settled around greece. THE PHILISTINES ARE HAMITES! BUT THE BIBLE STATES WHERE THE HAMITES SETTLED! NAMELY AFRICA(CUSH, MIZRAIM(EGYPT) etc etc...even your white scholars proved that the hamites were black! dont forget the israelites settled in africa, namely egypt and nubia.

Where has it been proven the Hamites were black? Please show proof. Also like I said if black DNA is from Hamites then Israelites were not black for they come from Shem and they were not allowed to mix with other races. Why anyone would want to be identified with what the bible calls a curse family line is beyond me.


where does it say that the israelites are white when the bible and historians say otherwise? you are just being ignorant or acting stupid. CUSH IS HAMITIC. CUSH IS IDENTIFIED AS THE FOREFATHER OF THE NUBIANS. MIZRAIM IS THE FOREFATHER OF THE EGYPTIANS. PUT ARE SOMALIANS ETC... your white historians already proven this. for one egypt was not a white nation. heroditus and ancient egyptian arts already proved that the egyptians were negroes. the israelites settled in africa and mixed amongst the hamites. the bible called africa the land of ham. moses passed for pharaohs grandson. so what color does that make moses. joseph was pharaoh amongst the egyptians. his brothers didnt recognise him. if he was white he would have stuck out like a sore thumb. white people didnt show up on the scene until the greeks. even your white racist comrades call black people the cursed seed of ham.
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It also does not say that the Israelites mated with the Egyptians, in fact it shows to the contrary because the Egyptians hated the Israelites. And maybe Moses could pass as an Egyptian because they were white and Joseph's brothers could not recognize him because they never seen him in 17 years, he was wearing Egyptian make-up and he was second in all of Egypt.
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

*SIGH* God threaten them with captivity with the Egyptians because they just came out of there, it would be anachronistic to talk about Babylon. And I don't get it, because God threaten to send them as slaves on ships to Egypt he sends then on ships as slaves to America? Sounds flawed. Besides there were white slaves to, and I bet they were transported on ships too. How can one argue with something so stupid?


for one that was not a threat but a future prophecy that was to take place. for one egypt means bondage in greek. so GOD is saying that he will send them(israelites) into BONDAGE again but this time it will be by SHIPS and they will be scattered across the 4 corners of the earth and sold as slaves. if you dont get that then you are lost or maybe its hard for you to swallow the truth.
as for the america part here is where it gets interesting...
DEUTERONOMY 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:


FROM THE END OF THE EARTH, from across the atlantic. not greece, not rome, not babylon, not persia...guess the nation? and I KNOW YOU KNOW tomato

Sorry the old testament was not written in Greek but Hebrew.
And no Egypt does not mean slavery in Greek.

Egyptians are white and they come from Ham. Mummies found have red, blond and brown hair. The Egyptians there now are white. And you cannot say that they were black before with no proof.

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funny i never saw any art depicting white egyptians on any tomb. i guess you never heard of dye. besides those so called modern egyptians are descendants of turks. its called conquest. are white americans "native indians"? if we go by your logic! go on a shooting rampage or something.



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And like you said the people form Crete are Hamites and they are white. No you cannot claim that at one time they were black because the evidence shows they are white. Look shit up before you make shit up.
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DEUTERONOMY 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships... [link to www.gilderlehrman.org]


by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen... [link to www.peacebuttons.info]


and no man shall buy(save) you.

since the israelites never went back to egypt in ships that means its probably another "egypt" (bondage) you all want me to go ahead with my so called afrocentrism?


tomato

What are you getting at? Do you even know what you are talking about? How does one refute something that is not on topic? So what, God threaten to send them into captivity, what are you getting at?

*SIGH* God threaten them with captivity with the Egyptians because they just came out of there, it would be anachronistic to talk about Babylon. And I don't get it, because God threaten to send them as slaves on ships to Egypt he sends then on ships as slaves to America? Sounds flawed. Besides there were white slaves to, and I bet they were transported on ships too. How can one argue with something so stupid?


for one that was not a threat but a future prophecy that was to take place. for one egypt means bondage in greek. so GOD is saying that he will send them(israelites) into BONDAGE again but this time it will be by SHIPS and they will be scattered across the 4 corners of the earth and sold as slaves. if you dont get that then you are lost or maybe its hard for you to swallow the truth.
as for the america part here is where it gets interesting...
DEUTERONOMY 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:


FROM THE END OF THE EARTH, from across the atlantic. not greece, not rome, not babylon, not persia...guess the nation? and I KNOW YOU KNOW tomato

Sorry the old testament was not written in Greek but Hebrew.
And no Egypt does not mean slavery in Greek.

Egyptians are white and they come from Ham. Mummies found have red, blond and brown hair. The Egyptians there now are white. And you cannot say that they were black before with no proof.

[link to www.white-history.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to guywhite.wordpress.com]


funny i never saw any art depicting white egyptians on any tomb. i guess you never heard of dye. besides those so called modern egyptians are descendants of turks. its called conquest. are white americans "native indians"? if we go by your logic! go on a shooting rampage or something.



...stop at 4:46


tomato
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All of your videos have been answered in my links, so this is over. And look at the hair of that black kid they compare to the corpse: A) He looks like he is starving, and B) His hair is curly like most blacks and the Egyptians had straight blond, red and brown hair.
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But now I must go to bed, I am white and I have responsibilities.
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If you’re not White; you’re not an Israelite!!!!!!!!

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Esau and King David where white.

They where reddish, described in the Bible.

nope! esau and david were brown skinned tinged with red. ruddy means reddish brown not white. this is an example of how king david would have looked, a ruddy color ... [link to realhistoryww.com]

compared to other israelites who would have looked like this... [link to realhistoryww.com]

real talk! stop believing the white lies!

Brown skin mixed with a tinge of red, pfft. If you believe that then I'm rainbow colored. Where have you ever seen someone with brown skin tinged with red?


i gave you a great example. whites arent and will never be israelites.
Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?

similar in looks as the ethiopians(africans)
does he look ethiopian... [link to i34.photobucket.com]

does he... [link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

does he... [link to thecst.org.uk]

can he be mistaken for ethiopian...
[link to www.paperlift.com]

are these ethiopians or israelites as described in amos 9:7... [link to www.sxc.hu]

i rest my case unless you want me to provide more proof tomato

LOL hahahahahahahahahaha. You are not a bible scholar are you? You must not of made it to far in school either. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah(breath in) buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha(wipe tear). God is saying in Amos that the Israelites are no more greater then the Ethiopians in stature, not appearance. To God they are both worthless, or it would be better understood that they are only worth what God prices them at. He is threatening them that he does not need them for He could use even the Ethiopians for His purpose if he wanted to. Which is shocking to them for they looked down upon them for there black skin(read Songs of Solomon). No mention of skin color there or physical appearance. If you are going to use that verse then you have to accept they are also white because the Lord compares them to the Phillistines which were from Crete, meaning they were white.



you laugh to soften the blow from the truth. it reads as it says. now the philistines were white...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thats a joke! from what i know the philistines are descedndants of HAM..you know the cursed blacks as you whites like to remind we black people of? and guess who else were HAMITES? oh yes the Cush(nubians), Mizraim(egyptians), Put and Canaan. so if the egyptians are the cursed blacks of ham and moses passed as the grandson of the pharaoh then what was the color of moses? the bible mentions skin colors many times.

Did you know that it says in Amos 9:7 that the Phillistines came from Caphtor? Caphtor is Crete, that is a Fact. Look it up.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Are you Israelites more important to me than the Ethiopians?" asks the LORD. "I brought Israel out of Egypt, but I also brought the Philistines from Crete and led the Arameans out of Kir.
So I guess what you know is nothing. And you laughed, so that means you did it to soften the blow? Also you did not refute that no where in that verse does it talk about physical appearance.
No where in the Bible does it say that Ham was black. PERIOD. So you fail. And if you can claim that Ham is black then I can claim Shem was white, and the Israelites are Shemites. Besides if black DNA comes from Ham then the Israelites were not black for they were from Shem, and were not aloud to mate with other races.
Quote from Wikipedia: "The Philistines (Hebrew: פְּלִשְׁ&#151​4;ִּים‎, p'lishtim) (Arabic: فلسطينيو&#160​6;) (see "other uses" below) were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan, their territory being named Philistia in later contexts. Their origin has been debated among scholars. There is not enough information of the original language of the Philistines to relate it securely to any other languages. Biblical and related traditions differentiate between the original Philistines in the days of Abraham called Avvites and the later conquering Caphtorites who replaced them. It is theorized that the latter Philistines originated among the "sea peoples".

Modern archaeology has also suggested early cultural links with the Mycenean world in Greece.[1]

Though the Philistines adopted local Canaanite culture and language before leaving any written texts (and later adopted the Aramaic language), an Indo-European origin has been suggested for a handful of known Philistine words that survived as loan words in Hebrew."
People from Crete are white.


AHHHH BOY! the island of crete was settled by the DESCENDANTS OF HAM way before those white folks settled around greece. THE PHILISTINES ARE HAMITES! BUT THE BIBLE STATES WHERE THE HAMITES SETTLED! NAMELY AFRICA(CUSH, MIZRAIM(EGYPT) etc etc...even your white scholars proved that the hamites were black! dont forget the israelites settled in africa, namely egypt and nubia.

Where has it been proven the Hamites were black? Please show proof. Also like I said if black DNA is from Hamites then Israelites were not black for they come from Shem and they were not allowed to mix with other races. Why anyone would want to be identified with what the bible calls a curse family line is beyond me.


where does it say that the israelites are white when the bible and historians say otherwise? you are just being ignorant or acting stupid. CUSH IS HAMITIC. CUSH IS IDENTIFIED AS THE FOREFATHER OF THE NUBIANS. MIZRAIM IS THE FOREFATHER OF THE EGYPTIANS. PUT ARE SOMALIANS ETC... your white historians already proven this. for one egypt was not a white nation. heroditus and ancient egyptian arts already proved that the egyptians were negroes. the israelites settled in africa and mixed amongst the hamites. the bible called africa the land of ham. moses passed for pharaohs grandson. so what color does that make moses. joseph was pharaoh amongst the egyptians. his brothers didnt recognise him. if he was white he would have stuck out like a sore thumb. white people didnt show up on the scene until the greeks. even your white racist comrades call black people the cursed seed of ham.

The bible says they are white in Leviticus, and also when it says David was ruddy. The Bible does not say that Egyptians are black nor does it say Ham was either. Period.
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that was leprosy, fool!
exodus 4:6
And the LORD said furthermore to him, Put now your hand into your bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.

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But now I must go to bed, I am white and I have responsibilities.
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just leave those children alone. shout out to my white friends in nova scotia whom i had a delight of visiting.

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