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Anonymous Coward User ID: 276706 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amazing that a little speck on the map at the top has created so much ash that has grounded half the world. Maybe nature is trying to warn man not to get too big for his shoes. Some of you may not like me for saying this but i for one do wish for this thing to continue in order to force TPTB to change their ways before the whole world is destroyed tro their hands. I know many people will suffer and there will be shortages but it might be away to stop the madness of TPTB. I wish for the economy of the world to collapse. I wish for the world to change and the corrupt financial system to be wiped out. I wish for humans to go back to basic and grow their own food and respect mother earth once more. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 910644 United States 04/20/2010 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amazing that a little speck on the map at the top has created so much ash that has grounded half the world. Maybe nature is trying to warn man not to get too big for his shoes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 276706Some of you may not like me for saying this but i for one do wish for this thing to continue in order to force TPTB to change their ways before the whole world is destroyed tro their hands. I know many people will suffer and there will be shortages but it might be away to stop the madness of TPTB. I wish for the economy of the world to collapse. I wish for the world to change and the corrupt financial system to be wiped out. I wish for humans to go back to basic and grow their own food and respect mother earth once more. I like you :) and I agree with you but not before I got my own island ;) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 276706 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 05:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like you :) and I agree with you but not before I got my own island ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910644Lol. I would put a bit for that little island in the middle of Carrabian as soon as possible if i were you but make sure it is at least couple of KM above sea level.Lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 682664 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 06:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910644 Why aren't questions being asked as to why trans atlantic flights from Germany can route through UK airspace but it's not safe for UK aircraft or for planes to land in the London area. Absolutley bizarre, I've just watched the folowing flight track across the South Coast London and now heading towards wales: Flight Number : DLH460 Company : Lufthansa AG ICAO Hex Code : 3C64F6 Reg Code : D-AIGV Model : Airbus - A340-313X Departure : MUC - Munich, Franz Josef Strauss - Germany Arrival : MIA - Miami, International - USA What's going on? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 276706 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.radarvirtuel.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682664Why aren't questions being asked as to why trans atlantic flights from Germany can route through UK airspace but it's not safe for UK aircraft or for planes to land in the London area. Absolutley bizarre, I've just watched the folowing flight track across the South Coast London and now heading towards wales: Flight Number : DLH460 Company : Lufthansa AG ICAO Hex Code : 3C64F6 Reg Code : D-AIGV Model : Airbus - A340-313X Departure : MUC - Munich, Franz Josef Strauss - Germany Arrival : MIA - Miami, International - USA What's going on? maybe they are flying up and on the other side of iceland and not tro UK airspace. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 682664 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.radarvirtuel.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 276706Why aren't questions being asked as to why trans atlantic flights from Germany can route through UK airspace but it's not safe for UK aircraft or for planes to land in the London area. Absolutley bizarre, I've just watched the folowing flight track across the South Coast London and now heading towards wales: Flight Number : DLH460 Company : Lufthansa AG ICAO Hex Code : 3C64F6 Reg Code : D-AIGV Model : Airbus - A340-313X Departure : MUC - Munich, Franz Josef Strauss - Germany Arrival : MIA - Miami, International - USA What's going on? maybe they are flying up and on the other side of iceland and not tro UK airspace. Look at the map, they are routing through the cloud area. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 682664 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.radarvirtuel.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682664Why aren't questions being asked as to why trans atlantic flights from Germany can route through UK airspace but it's not safe for UK aircraft or for planes to land in the London area. Absolutley bizarre, I've just watched the folowing flight track across the South Coast London and now heading towards wales: Flight Number : DLH460 Company : Lufthansa AG ICAO Hex Code : 3C64F6 Reg Code : D-AIGV Model : Airbus - A340-313X Departure : MUC - Munich, Franz Josef Strauss - Germany Arrival : MIA - Miami, International - USA What's going on? maybe they are flying up and on the other side of iceland and not tro UK airspace. Look at the map, they are routing through the cloud area. Here is another one just crossed London. Flight Number : DLH440 Company : Lufthansa AG ICAO Hex Code : 3C4ACB Reg Code : D-ABVK Model : Boeing - B747-430 Departure : FRA - Frankfurt, Rhein-Main - Germany Arrival : IAH - Houston, George Bush Intercontinental - USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last Message : 10:06:14 UTC Latitude : 51.55577 Longitude : -0.68375 Altitude : 9768 m - 32047 ft Ground Speed : 823 km/h - 511 mph - 444 knots Squawk : 134 Heading : 260º |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 276706 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 06:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in that case i am assuming that Germany has decided before UK to start air travel and we'd expect UK to announce resumption soon. Or UK waiting for Germany to take the risk and then see what happens. After all wasn't it Lufthansa who took a flight test yesterday ans insisted on flying again? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 943170 United States 04/20/2010 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.radarvirtuel.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682664Why aren't questions being asked as to why trans atlantic flights from Germany can route through UK airspace but it's not safe for UK aircraft or for planes to land in the London area. Absolutley bizarre, I've just watched the folowing flight track across the South Coast London and now heading towards wales: Flight Number : DLH460 Company : Lufthansa AG ICAO Hex Code : 3C64F6 Reg Code : D-AIGV Model : Airbus - A340-313X Departure : MUC - Munich, Franz Josef Strauss - Germany Arrival : MIA - Miami, International - USA What's going on? We're at the beginning of the next staged event, international false flag, world pretending to attack itself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 682664 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in that case i am assuming that Germany has decided before UK to start air travel and we'd expect UK to announce resumption soon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 276706Or UK waiting for Germany to take the risk and then see what happens. After all wasn't it Lufthansa who took a flight test yesterday ans insisted on flying again? Luthansa, KLM, Air France and BA all took test flights and reported no issues or engine wear. Sky news is now reporting that people may be aware of flights crossing UK airspace but these flights are over 20,000ft and have been given special clearance. The inference is the German/Dutch and French flights have ascended through clear skies but that's completely at odd with the ash may on the radar link. They also said Irish airspace is completely closed yet the the to US bound 747 are heading towards Ireland, look at the map it doesn;t make sense and the stories don;t tie neatly together. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 682664 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 06:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just watching a Eurpoean air space debate/press conference on Sky News Active. Utter carnage. The woman and bloke who is chairing it can't answer 5% of the questions the journos are fielding. Loads of questions around why are some flights going through UK airspace, no coherent control or coordination, contradictory statements about airspace that is totally closed or closed with exceptions. Sheer chaos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 682664 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 06:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow nice fake map provided by NWO Google maps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945283Good job for promoting lies made up by the elites. Well done. The planes are in the air mate, I saw two of them cross London airspace and other people have commented on their presence in West London and Oxfordshire. I don't see you point about mis-information?? Care to elaborate? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 943170 United States 04/20/2010 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow nice fake map provided by NWO Google maps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682664Good job for promoting lies made up by the elites. Well done. The planes are in the air mate, I saw two of them cross London airspace and other people have commented on their presence in West London and Oxfordshire. I don't see you point about mis-information?? Care to elaborate? No cloud. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 943170 United States 04/20/2010 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just watching a Eurpoean air space debate/press conference on Sky News Active. Utter carnage. The woman and bloke who is chairing it can't answer 5% of the questions the journos are fielding. Loads of questions around why are some flights going through UK airspace, no coherent control or coordination, contradictory statements about airspace that is totally closed or closed with exceptions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682664Sheer chaos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's easy enough to figure out. The planes that are flying are carrying elites. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 943170 United States 04/20/2010 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.rense.com] Volcanic Ash, Computer Simulations And Air Panic By F. William Engdahl Author of Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order 4-19-10 Since the eruption of the Eyjafjallajoekull volcano in Iceland on April 14 air traffic across Europe had been grounded causing staggering losses to businesses and airlines as well as incalculable personal hardships. There are some very serious reasons to question whether the total flight ban was necessary. -The danger, we are told, is real. Volcanic particles harder than steel but not visible to weather radar could damage the engines of aircraft and cause crashes. Yet serious questions are beginning to be raised as to whether the first ever continental flight ban in the history of world aviation was necessary. -First, as Joachim Hunold, CEO of Germany's second largest carrier, Air Berlin, stated in Bild am Sonntag, "not one single weather balloon has been put up in Germany to measure if and how much volcanic ash there is in the air. The closing of the airspace is entirely based on the results of a computer simulation at the Volcanic Ash Advisory Centre (VAAC) in England." -One veteran Air France pilot, Steven Savignol, told me,"I can tell you from my own experience that with blue skies, aircrafts can fly perfectly and very safely. They made test flights with Air France, KLM, Lufthansa and of course, all is ok!" Met Office Computer simulations It turns out that the VAAC in England is working from a "computer simulation," and has not even conducted an actual sky ash measurement. The agency responsible for Volcanic Ash measurement for the region, including Iceland, is Britain's "Met Office," the UK's National Weather Service, which in turn is a Trading Fund within the Ministry of Defence, operating on a commercial basis under set targets according to their website. -German Transportation Minister Peter Ramsauer (CSU) told Germany's Der Spiegel, "... Berlin as other European governments are bound to the international regulations regarding volcano eruptions and the estimates of the Volcanic Ash Advisory Centre in London." The citation of 'London' by a responsible EU transportation minister is itself a bit puzzling as VAAC is in Exeter, not in London. -What we are witnessing here is not a law or a regulation that has been tested in experience with previous volcanoes and air flights. This is a policy drawn up by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), which created the worldwide VAAC stations in 1993 to monitor volcanic eruptions and their effects. The ICAO Exeter office data is then interpreted and enforced by the UK's National Air Traffic Service (NATS). That interpretation needs a closer look. -In September 2009 the ICAO published a 'Contingency plan for handling traffic in the event of volcanic ash penetrating the airspace of North Atlantic Region'. The guidelines make no distinction at all between major or minor eruptions. Nor do they take into account the dilution effect as the cloud spreads from the original point. The only reference is to generic "dust clouds," without any attempt to carry out a risk assessment. -Using as its model the largest and most dangerous of Icelandic volcanoes, the Katla volcano, ICAO offered a series of procedures for monitoring and tracking volcano ash clouds and for 'advice' to be given to airlines in the event of a volcano eruption. -The current eruption is a relatively minor one certainly not in the league of Katla. Yet it is worth noting that for even the most serious of possible eruptions, the plan issued by the IOCA involved re-routing aircraft around, or under dust plumes, not banning all air flights as has occurred with this recent eruption. -Most of Europe and large parts of the rest of the world flying European airspace has been scared into believing that to fly would be madness. To fly beneath the cloud until clear of it would mean burning more fuel. Low-flying to simply avoid the danger of ash being sucked into the jet engines is a temporary solution. Steve Wood, Chief Pilot at Sussex and Surrey Air Ambulance, describes the measures being taken as 'a complete overreaction.' Modern jet aircraft engines are robust, they must be, says Air France's Savignol. They have to face not only the hazards of bird strikes, but rain, hail and even salt spray on take-off from coastal airports. Furthermore, sand is a common hazard from dust storms and from desert airfields. -Some aircraft are better equipped than others to deal with high-dust conditions, and consultation with aircraft and engine manufacturers might have enabled more precise restrictions to be imposed, rather than a blanket ban. But a spokesman for England's NATS admitted: 'We don't really deal with particular manufacturers.' They were more concerned with 'applying the international regulations.' -The blanket ban under clear blue skies and glorious sunshine across Europe is making some wonder whether there is something else going on under the cover of earthquake eruptions, such as a test run to shut down air travel internationally. Since no one has ever been injured from an aircraft disabled by a volcanic eruption, it is a question that lingers. The absolute ban is an over-reaction, at a minimum, and shows poor judgment. One can only speculate if other agendas are involved. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 943170 United States 04/20/2010 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... "Met Office Computer simulations It turns out that the VAAC in England is working from a "computer simulation," and has not even conducted an actual sky ash measurement. The agency responsible for Volcanic Ash measurement for the region, including Iceland, is Britain's "Met Office," the UK's National Weather Service, which in turn is a Trading Fund within the Ministry of Defence, operating on a commercial basis under set targets according to their website... The Met Office, also in charge of pushing the "Climate Change" agenda, you know, as in Climategate, that whole sheaf of lies that was recently released. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 945283 Australia 04/20/2010 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 943170"Met Office Computer simulations It turns out that the VAAC in England is working from a "computer simulation," and has not even conducted an actual sky ash measurement. The agency responsible for Volcanic Ash measurement for the region, including Iceland, is Britain's "Met Office," the UK's National Weather Service, which in turn is a Trading Fund within the Ministry of Defence, operating on a commercial basis under set targets according to their website... The Met Office, also in charge of pushing the "Climate Change" agenda, you know, as in Climategate, that whole sheaf of lies that was recently released. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 660494 Australia 04/20/2010 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 943170"Met Office Computer simulations It turns out that the VAAC in England is working from a "computer simulation," and has not even conducted an actual sky ash measurement. The agency responsible for Volcanic Ash measurement for the region, including Iceland, is Britain's "Met Office," the UK's National Weather Service, which in turn is a Trading Fund within the Ministry of Defence, operating on a commercial basis under set targets according to their website... The Met Office, also in charge of pushing the "Climate Change" agenda, you know, as in Climategate, that whole sheaf of lies that was recently released. Just like the global warming simulations that were a total fail. Scientists these days know no more than me and you. It's all just GUESSING. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 944551 United States 04/20/2010 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow nice fake map provided by NWO Google maps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945283Good job for promoting lies made up by the elites. Well done. =============== Yet you can't begin to debunk it... ============= All I have to do is mention Google. And its debunked. I'm sure that makes perfect sense to you... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 943170 United States 04/20/2010 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660494"Met Office Computer simulations It turns out that the VAAC in England is working from a "computer simulation," and has not even conducted an actual sky ash measurement. The agency responsible for Volcanic Ash measurement for the region, including Iceland, is Britain's "Met Office," the UK's National Weather Service, which in turn is a Trading Fund within the Ministry of Defence, operating on a commercial basis under set targets according to their website... The Met Office, also in charge of pushing the "Climate Change" agenda, you know, as in Climategate, that whole sheaf of lies that was recently released. Just like the global warming simulations that were a total fail. Scientists these days know no more than me and you. It's all just GUESSING. It's worse than that, it's intentional lying to support a hidden agenda to depopulate the planet. Right now economic murder on a genocidal scale is being committed. This plane thang is destroying innumerable businesses and individuals. The why of that I am still pondering. |
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