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HOLY CRAP! The guy who filmed the shots fired at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED

 
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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This is absolutely out of control.

I want OFF this PLANET NOW!



You're not alone on this; those thoughts have crossed my mind recently ..
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+1

& to add, within the hour, courtesy of Skunk space ways I WILL be off the fucked upped planet. Just hope I don't pass an ICBM on the way.
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I doubted that video because there was no way to know for sure if they were actually gun shots, but if he's been stabbed now it would look highly suspicious
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Anyone have a link to that video? I must have missed it during all the mayhem.
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04/20/2010 01:54 PM
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THIS SHIT IS FUCKING SERIOUS.



Hej Diddy,

Jak prosiles daje link na ktory wczoraj wszedlem. Przetlumacze go dla naszych nie polsko jezycznych kolegow. Zapewniam Cie ze jestem Polakiem.

[link to fakty.interia.pl]

TRANSLATION :



" Author of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow. On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was prenounced dead that afternoon. Russian government claims it was a coincidence. "



PEOPLE THIS IS IT!

WORLD WAR 3!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mossad led Georgian operatives shot down the airliner with a shoulder fired missile, then shot survivors at the scene.
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[link to www.youtube.com]

This video version is interesting as it purports to zoom in on various things like someone laying down, dressed in white, and putting their arms up.
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It looks that Agent Obama sold Poland

and some other small countries to Russians.
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Can someone put the video on here? I am sorry, but my polish is not so great. LOL!



with translations:

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879868


Supposedly the original video, however it's in FLV format. I've found a RAR, downloading now to verify

[link to www.archive.org]
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So can anyone translate? What does it say I watched the video of the shooting and I believed it was gun shots and they did hit something you could tell by the sound. But what does your post say?



VERSION WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION


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Jesus.



Someone needs to stabilize this video so we can see it more clearly. Those are definitely gunshots though.
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04/20/2010 02:01 PM
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#######################
Confirmation Is Needed
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Is Adrie Mendierej dead or not? IS there a report from a Russian paper or Obituary? Anything?



when his name is googled only one result

here



Can someone get a list of hospitals in that area?
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Using this Google Search there are several write ups..etc.

[link to www.google.com]
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Can someone put the video on here? I am sorry, but my polish is not so great. LOL!



with translations:

[link to www.youtube.com]


Supposedly the original video, however it's in FLV format. I've found a RAR, downloading now to verify

[link to www.archive.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879868




Please do.


Thanks for the links guys. I definitely missed this. I recall a video that came out right after the crash but I don't recall any gunshots. This video seems similar but doesn't look the same.
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#######################
Confirmation Is Needed
#######################
Is Adrie Mendierej dead or not? IS there a report from a Russian paper or Obituary? Anything?



when his name is googled only one result

here



Can someone get a list of hospitals in that area?



Using this Google Search there are several write ups..etc.

[link to www.google.com]
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Poor guy..
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04/20/2010 02:11 PM
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How to say it? "From Russia with Love?"

On other hand, Russians are big economy trouble.

It looks that they want former Eastern Block countries back,

to live from them
. Somebody must feed those "Russian SOBs."
 Quoting: jarha



...live from Poland? lol
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[link to translation.imtranslator.net]

Jak prosiles daje link na ktory wczoraj wszedlem. Przetlumacze go dla naszych nie polsko jezycznych kolegow. Zapewniam Cie ze jestem Polakiem.

====

How do you ask who gives a link to yesterday entered. Translate it for our colleagues are not speaking Polish. I assure you that I am a Pole.


+++

you have been had big time
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It looks that Agent Obama sold Poland

and some other small countries to Russians.

 Quoting: jarha



putin

You better mind your own business. What about 9/11, the Kennedy assassination plot, mysterious deaths of numerous investigative journalists, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, etc, etc.
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Can someone put the video on here? I am sorry, but my polish is not so great. LOL!



with translations:

[link to www.youtube.com]


Supposedly the original video, however it's in FLV format. I've found a RAR, downloading now to verify

[link to www.archive.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879868



RAR contained screen caps and zoom shots of video frames. To my knowledge the flv I listed above is the closest to the original thus far.
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04/20/2010 02:18 PM
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this is just video

it doesnt show anything clear and could have been manipulated.
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04/20/2010 02:19 PM
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THIS SHIT IS FUCKING SERIOUS.


PEOPLE THIS IS IT!

WORLD WAR 3!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948143


bsflag
another over-reaction by doomtards yawn
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Can someone put the video on here? I am sorry, but my polish is not so great. LOL!



with translations:

[link to www.youtube.com]


Supposedly the original video, however it's in FLV format. I've found a RAR, downloading now to verify

[link to www.archive.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879868



After you've done that, can you embed the video here? Or give a link?
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putin

"Something was lost in the translation.
Actually, they brought fresh flowers and
asked him to join their bowling team."
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Can someone put the video on here? I am sorry, but my polish is not so great. LOL!



with translations:

[link to www.youtube.com]


Supposedly the original video, however it's in FLV format. I've found a RAR, downloading now to verify

[link to www.archive.org]



After you've done that, can you embed the video here? Or give a link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 927141


Check out my comment above, RAR was only 14MB. FLV above is the best we seem to have.
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Jeez.. can't anyone think for a second?
1st. This is not an approved information. Could be a bogus. 2nd. What kind of an idiotic secret service would take down a plane.. allegedly and casually murder its survivors on site while being filmed doing it and finally without any hesitation murder the shady mysterious person who filmed it almost two weeks later to seal the deal and final the impression in other words: "prove" everyone that the "leaked" recording was "legitimate". Not Russian I tell you. Anyone who thinks this has been deliberately done by Russia is a... This is not the work of Russia but Russia will be possibly framed if it gets mainstream. Which may not because so far only western doomtards are blaming Russia for this sad sad event. Now add to it the interesting fact that almost none of the Western officials attended the poor President's funeral due to.. "the almighty invisible ash cloud which mysteriously covered the skies above entire Europe completely". If this gets viral.. this: "OMG RUSSIA DID IT!! LETS ALL HIDE IN THE OUTHOUSE!! TIS THE NUKES!!" - Then someone is desperately looking forward for a new conflict and this is just the beginning. If not.. then just relax. Planes fall all the time. This one just happened to have a President in it. May he rest in peace. peace


you have to think.If its true it would be so unbelievable to the public that it have to be untrue! Its easy then for gov and media to tell the public it was a normal plane crash.

If you see a flying saucer, you know its a flying saucer...you have a vid of the flying saucer and its real! Nobody would believe you just because the media and everyone is laughing about it, nobody would investigate.Know what I mean...you,we live here how some people want us to live here...


No, you think. If a secret service takes down a plane on it's own soil for everybody to see.. then it is not a secret service. These accusations pointing towards Russia are outrageous. If it was all well-prepared and planned by Russia's secret service.. do you really think they would let the guy film it? Or let him walk away together with the old fella who was standing nearby? I think not. If this would be a devised and carefully planned super secret operation of Russia's FSB as you propose.. we would never hear of the filming guy. He would be lying in an unmarked grave somewhere near Smolensk together with his cellphone and the old fella.

The only objection I have is.. that Russia is not to blame. It seems like, the ones responsible for this.. (if it was indeed not an accident) wanted the plane to crash in Russia so everybody would blame who? - Russia. They were quite successful then.. not only did they get rid of Poland's political and military leadership but also removed all blame and traces leading to them - because everybody is pointing their fingers on Russia.

 Quoting: Y 948310



+1

Yes, and the sheeple believe the lies, as usual. Even those who avoid msm and claim to be more educated.

Russians are not THAT stupid. To me, this looks like a foreign secret service plot.

A faction intending to point their fingers at Russia must have leaked this 'video'.

Unfortunately, most peiople on this conspiracy forum fall for the wicked propaganda. As they did with Polikowskaya and Litvinienko. Both of them were probably killed by an Oligarch called Be(re)sowski.
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Do you want to know what I think? The Katyn events were a fascist responsability, in fact. I don't think the accident was but a mere 'accident'. What caused it? Some kind of external intervention on actual historical events. This has been seen by many actors in the world.

There is a relationship between Goebbels (the diaries) and those recent events. As there is a a relationship too between Goebbels and some sort of sociological and military action on Poland from the hand of an extracontinental power.

In this event, the presence and role of the church is evident (from long time ago, remember Gdansk and John Paul II, his secretary being the bishop in Krakow, using some sort of souverain right over the castle of Wawel and the burial). Ratzinger is a fascist.

The event of the Iceland volcano is related too. That is why the european air space became closed as never before until the II World War.

But, some kind of correlation has been broken. And an antifascist fight has started. This is one moment where you can see another kind of interventions in human history. I shouldn't tell you these things but finally, why not?

History is not anymore what we used to think. Know it.
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what i dont get is, if people from the airplane where shot than that should be obvious when the russian and/or polish goverment investigated the crash site and see people shot.

alarm bells would go off in both goverments.

so wtf ?! why havent we heard anything from both those goverments yet ? are they still investigating ?

whats going on !?

DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD LEAVE THE BODIES OF THE ONES THEY SHOT?~?~~? Think about it for a second.
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and thats why the numbers of dead comming out of the from both sides were off??
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It looks that Agent Obama sold Poland

and some other small countries to Russians.

 Quoting: jarha



not to mention the US space program...

charlie
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I was just thinking, if a specialized group was going to do something of this magnitude, wouldn't they use FREAKIN' SILENCERS??!!! Again, just a thought.
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I was just thinking, if a specialized group was going to do something of this magnitude, wouldn't they use FREAKIN' SILENCERS??!!! Again, just a thought.
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Why? It's on their own soil and in the forest.
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So can anyone translate? What does it say I watched the video of the shooting and I believed it was gun shots and they did hit something you could tell by the sound. But what does your post say?

It says the dude who filmed the video of the plane crash was STABBED... then sent to hospital where he was STABBED AGAIN TO DEATH THIS TIME.

I mean, unless you have a fucking contract on your head, THE KILLERS WON'T COME AND KILL YOU IN THE FREAKING HOSPITAL.


Dosen't sound like a professional 'hit' to me.

Maybe a loony?

Yeah a loony come in the hospital to finish the job... NOT.
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Yep. Reminds me of the loony who was obviously startled by the explosions going off around Bhutto - so he ran up behind her and shot her in the head.

Those damn loonies are always around when you least expect to see them.

I guess the 'stabbing loony' at the hospital was upset that the first 'stabbing loony' was getting all the attention. At least.... I'll go with that for now until the media tells me what to think.
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I didn't know there were two videos...now I'm confused.
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If you remember there was a video showing a muddied yellow object/box (which turned out to be the plane's black box). That movie was filmed by a Polish guy and was the first to surface.
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Jeez.. can't anyone think for a second?
1st. This is not an approved information. Could be a bogus. 2nd. What kind of an idiotic secret service would take down a plane.. allegedly and casually murder its survivors on site while being filmed doing it and finally without any hesitation murder the shady mysterious person who filmed it almost two weeks later to seal the deal and final the impression in other words: "prove" everyone that the "leaked" recording was "legitimate". Not Russian I tell you. Anyone who thinks this has been deliberately done by Russia is a... This is not the work of Russia but Russia will be possibly framed if it gets mainstream. Which may not because so far only western doomtards are blaming Russia for this sad sad event. Now add to it the interesting fact that almost none of the Western officials attended the poor President's funeral due to.. "the almighty invisible ash cloud which mysteriously covered the skies above entire Europe completely". If this gets viral.. this: "OMG RUSSIA DID IT!! LETS ALL HIDE IN THE OUTHOUSE!! TIS THE NUKES!!" - Then someone is desperately looking forward for a new conflict and this is just the beginning. If not.. then just relax. Planes fall all the time. This one just happened to have a President in it. May he rest in peace. peace


you have to think.If its true it would be so unbelievable to the public that it have to be untrue! Its easy then for gov and media to tell the public it was a normal plane crash.

If you see a flying saucer, you know its a flying saucer...you have a vid of the flying saucer and its real! Nobody would believe you just because the media and everyone is laughing about it, nobody would investigate.Know what I mean...you,we live here how some people want us to live here...


No, you think. If a secret service takes down a plane on it's own soil for everybody to see.. then it is not a secret service. These accusations pointing towards Russia are outrageous. If it was all well-prepared and planned by Russia's secret service.. do you really think they would let the guy film it? Or let him walk away together with the old fella who was standing nearby? I think not. If this would be a devised and carefully planned super secret operation of Russia's FSB as you propose.. we would never hear of the filming guy. He would be lying in an unmarked grave somewhere near Smolensk together with his cellphone and the old fella.

The only objection I have is.. that Russia is not to blame. It seems like, the ones responsible for this.. (if it was indeed not an accident) wanted the plane to crash in Russia so everybody would blame who? - Russia. They were quite successful then.. not only did they get rid of Poland's political and military leadership but also removed all blame and traces leading to them - because everybody is pointing their fingers on Russia.




+1

Yes, and the sheeple believe the lies, as usual. Even those who avoid msm and claim to be more educated.

Russians are not THAT stupid. To me, this looks like a foreign secret service plot.

A faction intending to point their fingers at Russia must have leaked this 'video'.

Unfortunately, most peiople on this conspiracy forum fall for the wicked propaganda. As they did with Polikowskaya and Litvinienko. Both of them were probably killed by an Oligarch called Be(re)sowski.
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how would a foreign secret service get on to a russian military base? right after a crash and not be seen by any russian mil person...yeah ok
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All governments are powerless up against a terror/evil driven schisms with lots of money. Money=Power... that sentiment rarely ever fails.

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