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HOLY CRAP! The guy who filmed the shots fired at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED

 
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Jeez.. can't anyone think for a second?
1st. This is not an approved information. Could be a bogus. 2nd. What kind of an idiotic secret service would take down a plane.. allegedly and casually murder its survivors on site while being filmed doing it and finally without any hesitation murder the shady mysterious person who filmed it almost two weeks later to seal the deal and final the impression in other words: "prove" everyone that the "leaked" recording was "legitimate". Not Russian I tell you. Anyone who thinks this has been deliberately done by Russia is a... This is not the work of Russia but Russia will be possibly framed if it gets mainstream. Which may not because so far only western doomtards are blaming Russia for this sad sad event. Now add to it the interesting fact that almost none of the Western officials attended the poor President's funeral due to.. "the almighty invisible ash cloud which mysteriously covered the skies above entire Europe completely". If this gets viral.. this: "OMG RUSSIA DID IT!! LETS ALL HIDE IN THE OUTHOUSE!! TIS THE NUKES!!" - Then someone is desperately looking forward for a new conflict and this is just the beginning. If not.. then just relax. Planes fall all the time. This one just happened to have a President in it. May he rest in peace. peace


you have to think.If its true it would be so unbelievable to the public that it have to be untrue! Its easy then for gov and media to tell the public it was a normal plane crash.

If you see a flying saucer, you know its a flying saucer...you have a vid of the flying saucer and its real! Nobody would believe you just because the media and everyone is laughing about it, nobody would investigate.Know what I mean...you,we live here how some people want us to live here...


No, you think. If a secret service takes down a plane on it's own soil for everybody to see.. then it is not a secret service. These accusations pointing towards Russia are outrageous. If it was all well-prepared and planned by Russia's secret service.. do you really think they would let the guy film it? Or let him walk away together with the old fella who was standing nearby? I think not. If this would be a devised and carefully planned super secret operation of Russia's FSB as you propose.. we would never hear of the filming guy. He would be lying in an unmarked grave somewhere near Smolensk together with his cellphone and the old fella.

The only objection I have is.. that Russia is not to blame. It seems like, the ones responsible for this.. (if it was indeed not an accident) wanted the plane to crash in Russia so everybody would blame who? - Russia. They were quite successful then.. not only did they get rid of Poland's political and military leadership but also removed all blame and traces leading to them - because everybody is pointing their fingers on Russia.
 Quoting: Y 948310


Dobre Jutro! I know it's russian...

Thank you for your levelheaded response.. i was thinking and thinking reading from the first page till your comment...

The clue and the knot are the questions:
- how did the man who filmed this got there at that location at that time? Was he walking his dog? It would be too much of a coindicence that you walk your dog and it practically pisses on a still burning plane which chrashed a minute ago with the entire leadership aboard dying... people please think!

- What is that old man doing there dressed in dark colors with something which looks like a briefcase in his hand... was he keeping the dogwalker company? He seems to move freely as if he is some tourguide or birdwatcher.

- Why, (and this observation came from Yah Massive Stone) where the grounds around that site not hermitically closed to unexpected visitors, eavesdroppers and thus potential witnesses? I am typing and as I am typing I think of one possible reason...meaning that whoever they were they couldn't seal the grounds either because they are unfamiliar in that area, or do not have any authority and the proper coops to do so! enticing me to conclude as far as this question is concerned, that the shooters are NOT russian. Would they have been they had all the proper tools, connections and authoritive power to make sure NO ONE would have been round about the crashsite... They would NOT blunder in this way they are TRAINED to not make blunders!This video would not have come all the way down to YouTube if KGB was involved!

These are two questions in relation to the video that reared from the back of my head and became an alarmbell!

What did they do right after the planes crashed into WTC? Programming... it was AlQaida, A terrorist attack, the fuels burned the steelframe of the building and so it collapsed... we remember that don't we? Damage control and mind control in action. The one who comes in to claim it is Russian KGB is the shill! Or just repeating what he/she has been fed by a shill!

This video is abnormal, because we see this, we see the plane burning and people getting shot, this is abnormal! Acknowledge that first and then look at it again and ask yourself why you see what you see and how.

When one man has the power to create and recreate reality, he will use it! That is human nature! Acknowledge this, the glidge.. men is not infallible so they will make mistakes (them meaning the cabal).

What you see is a rush of the curtain and this man getting killed is the hand that tries to pull the curtain back!

I think these images were shot with the purpose to feed those not buying into the MSM effect/story (mass manipulation).. the goal is to make them look at something else, divert your attention... to Russia!

My question is, who wants Russia in the picture to keep himself out? I am not saying that I am a friend of Russian politicians they belong to the same group! Do we need to take another look at the Georgia incident and Shaakasvili (not saying he did it!)?

I believe that this man got killed because the situation got out of control and the handler might have thought that he made a mistake by letting this whole revealing episode be eternalized on film!

I don't believe that this plane crashed because of whether etc. The pilot must have been an experienced pilot with miles on his brevet! Let's understand that this is a head of state who got killed together with ALL his staff the entire government of poland wiped out in one hour. Whoever says this is just an accident....if this is then steel definately melts when it is heated by fuel!

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there were sirens in that video, could it be that who ever was there was using the sirens as a cover to the gun shots and the screams from the surviving passengers?
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If I had to guess I would say there is more than one communist intelligence service officer posting here on this thread. Obviously, they are the ones telling us not to be so hasty in blaming Russia for what they will tell you was merely a tragic accident.

Good morning from the USA, all you KGB officers intent on projecting your guilt onto others. What Stalin did to your ranks during his purges is nothing compared to what's coming your way when the world turns on you.
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This Cold war thing is still in your head? please take note of my post!

When I hear arguments against Russia on the bases of Communism, saying that Russia wants to spread communism I immediately think of Rome. Vatican Rome and it's hetze against Russia and the Orthodox church. The falsified Fatima prophecy and all the Roman Catholic writers condemning Russia and communism as a thread to the world but really a threat against its own power.

The Vatican has a big stake and I urge all who read this to go and delve deep into history, study both world wars and the stance Vatican Rome took!

Look at their involvement in Russian history and the agents called Jesuits they placed there. Russia is no longer perceived as a threat by most of "conspiracists" because we all know that as far as politics is concerned they are the other side of the same coin! Russia is forming an alliance with the countries who are considered threats to the westrenworld leaders. China and Iran are the leads in this!

It is not hard for me to see what is what.....
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Isn't that a train whistle instead of what we call a "siren" in English? It would be interesting to know if there were any scheduled trains running within earshot of the the crash site at that time.

That is an extremely haunting video, whatever it may be. Tragic.
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[link to ohlundonline.blogspot.com]
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Yeah, it was a train air-horn not a siren like on a police or military vehicle..Russian internal security services use that bloody annoying european "her-heee-her-hee" siren as do ambulances. I think the police use a high pitched quick "wee-o-wee-o" siren. Their train whistles are pretty cool older sounding whistles like the one in the video.

I watched the video several times. Does sound like gunshots to me too. I've seen a couple civilian plane crashes before and never heard anything popping off quite like that...even ammunition discharging from heat (one of the alternative possibilities) sounds different than that.
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Anyone still having doubt THAT THE RUSSIANS KILLED THE POLISH GOVERNMENT?

If you do... I mean... go eat some grass... because you are literally a sheeple...
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Yeah, I have many doubts. for Russia to kill all those Polish leaders in their country would be stupid. Its possible but when this video surfaced then it became real clear that this crash was set up by Mossad or the CIA.

If they hand people there to murder any survivors then they could have just as easily murdered the guy who just happened to stumble on the crash scene with camera in hand. Why didn't they kill the camera giy right then?

They didn't kill the camera guy because he was part of team to stage this. His video was made to point the finger at the Russians.

Its clear that the Polish leadership got out of line when they attempted to get out from under the thumb of the IMF and Globalist control. Its also clears that the zionists have been pissed off at russia ever since Putin licked the zionists out of russia. This is the perfect MO of how the Mossad works...they get rid of more than one problem when they do anything. Russia and Poland were giving them problems and this is how they stage things to do away with both problems.


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Stabbed 3 times,then 3 more times
Now who could that be!
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Goldman announced earnings of 3.3 billion today
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Anyone still having doubt THAT THE RUSSIANS KILLED THE POLISH GOVERNMENT?

If you do... I mean... go eat some grass... because you are literally a sheeple...

Yeah, I have many doubts. for Russia to kill all those Polish leaders in their country would be stupid. Its possible but when this video surfaced then it became real clear that this crash was set up by Mossad or the CIA.

If they hand people there to murder any survivors then they could have just as easily murdered the guy who just happened to stumble on the crash scene with camera in hand. Why didn't they kill the camera giy right then?

They didn't kill the camera guy because he was part of team to stage this. His video was made to point the finger at the Russians.

Its clear that the Polish leadership got out of line when they attempted to get out from under the thumb of the IMF and Globalist control. Its also clears that the zionists have been pissed off at russia ever since Putin licked the zionists out of russia. This is the perfect MO of how the Mossad works...they get rid of more than one problem when they do anything. Russia and Poland were giving them problems and this is how they stage things to do away with both problems.


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Only idiots blame Isreal for everything that happens...it gets old.
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Only idiots blame Isreal for everything that happens...it gets old.
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One, it's Israel, not Isreal. Two, if you act like an incorrigibly racist douche for long enough, people tend to think that you're an incorrigibly racist douche.
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I dunno about that though, that was just some guy who told me, and he was told by someone else so make of it what you will, but I dunno. Sounds plausible.
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Awesome.
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I dunno about that though, that was just some guy who told me, and he was told by someone else so make of it what you will, but I dunno. Sounds plausible.


Awesome.
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What?
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Only idiots blame Isreal for everything that happens...it gets old.
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And what would you call people who claim Israel never does any wrong and is blameless no matter what they get caught red handed doing?


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Ok the more I see this video the more I see its staged. A play if you will.

The first gun shots heard any logical thinking human being would of ran for the hills.

Also when you walk upon a wreckage and you see a man waving for help why don't you put the camera down and help him?


This thing stinks. They want an international incident.
 Quoting: Jah Stone Massive!


If he did put the camera down, he'd have been criticised for not filming.

Citizen journalism trumps heroism. We live in a world where if it aint on camera, it aint real. Sorry!
If you tolerate this your children will be next.
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THIS SHIT IS FUCKING SERIOUS.



Hej Diddy,

Jak prosiles daje link na ktory wczoraj wszedlem. Przetlumacze go dla naszych nie polsko jezycznych kolegow. Zapewniam Cie ze jestem Polakiem.

[link to fakty.interia.pl]

TRANSLATION :



" Author of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow. On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was prenounced dead that afternoon. Russian government claims it was a coincidence. "



PEOPLE THIS IS IT!

WORLD WAR 3!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948143



Link to YouTube video:
www.youtube.com...

Commentary for video (translation of polish to english at certain spots on tape):

tegosleos @tegosleos PL 00:12 uspokój się (calm downd) PL 00:17 patrz mu w oczy (look into his eyes) PL 00:21 uspokój się (calm down), RU 00:22 zjob (tits up) - about a men, PL 00:23 o boże (oh God!) , PL 00:25 już po (it's after), PL 00:27 zostaniesz tu i zginiesz? (will you stay here and die?) , PL 00:28 ta pani tu jeszcze żyje (this women here is still alive) , 7 hours ago

tegosleos @tegosleos PL 00:28 wielki Jezu (Jesus Christ) , PL 00:29 idziesz (go) 5 minutes ago , RU 00:30 ubija ciebie (I will kill you) , RU 00:31 uwijajcie sia (hury up) , PL 00:32 święty Józefie, jak tak można (Jesus Christ, how can they do this?) , RU 00:43 nikagda uchoda (you won't escape) , 7 hours ago

tegosleos RU 00:47 dawaj tuda paskuda (come here here is a yuck) , RU 00:50 nie ubijajtie nas (don't kill us) , PL 00:51 boże mój boże (oh God, my God) , PL 00:53 żyje (I'am alive) , PL 1:12 zmiana planów, kuźwa! (cheanging plans, #!), RU 01:19 a gdzie uchodzisz kola (where are you going Kola?) , RU 01:21 nie chuja siebia (they don't get me) 7 hours ago

Fodder for WWIII?
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Whats the go here is it valid?
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They assassinated by stabbing? That seems pretty sloppy... A silenced pistol would be much cleaner and quick.
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POLISH PLANE CRASH TRUTH VIDEO [link to www.navigate3d.no]

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They assassinated by stabbing? That seems pretty sloppy... A silenced pistol would be much cleaner and quick.
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maybe it has to look like a random thing
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Anyone still having doubt THAT THE RUSSIANS KILLED THE POLISH GOVERNMENT?

If you do... I mean... go eat some grass... because you are literally a sheeple...

Yeah, I have many doubts. for Russia to kill all those Polish leaders in their country would be stupid. Its possible but when this video surfaced then it became real clear that this crash was set up by Mossad or the CIA.

If they hand people there to murder any survivors then they could have just as easily murdered the guy who just happened to stumble on the crash scene with camera in hand. Why didn't they kill the camera giy right then?

They didn't kill the camera guy because he was part of team to stage this. His video was made to point the finger at the Russians.

Its clear that the Polish leadership got out of line when they attempted to get out from under the thumb of the IMF and Globalist control. Its also clears that the zionists have been pissed off at russia ever since Putin licked the zionists out of russia. This is the perfect MO of how the Mossad works...they get rid of more than one problem when they do anything. Russia and Poland were giving them problems and this is how they stage things to do away with both problems.


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My vote, CIA and Ron Brown. Looks like trying to start another false flag and WWIII. Just whom does that help, maybe a monetary crisis?

THINK, wait and watch. A truth will come out and I don't think Russia is so stupid to try a redux of WWII. Use the brain and alot does open up, plane crash, bullets, and all are dead. Reminds me of Ron Brown redux more than a duplicated Russian restart of WWII.
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can someone seperate facts from myths ?
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medved is one mean fucker

if this aint some kind of set up, then the world should point a finger of shame at Russia
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I'm going with Kurt Nimmo's story. The banksters had the motive.
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If this is all true then why is it on this forum and has not yet attracted the attention it does on the other forums/sites?
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medved is one mean fucker

if this aint some kind of set up, then the world should point a finger of shame at Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946843


I am pretty sure that Putin runs the country and that the Bear is his little biatch.

Medved is bear in Russian if you guys didnt know, the guys last name is Medvedov. That is why most people refer to him as the Bear.
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any new developements on this yet?
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Lol
13 pages and over 270 5 star votes, all based on false news and a pin thread by mods knowing it was all lies.

I expect it is a very good way for TPTB to find out how easy the sheep can follow without ever questioning what they are being fed as truth or not.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves but you are not. In fact you will defend your attitude with all your brainwashed might and try to prove why all this could be true

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