HOLY CRAP! The guy who filmed the shots fired at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 943170 United States 04/20/2010 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is this for real? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948248No, it is just a mountain of bullshit... It's "them" again. One of the giveaways is the movie-script-written-by-a-twelve-year-old quality of the plays they act in, Inconsistencies are either intentional or of no import because they totally control reality anyway. If necessary, they'll just do a rewrite later. Another is that the stage is set so that reality can be constantly shifted: No survivors, no witnesses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948307And the massmedia reported always different numbers of the deaths of this polish Government plane. 88, 90, 132, 95, 96.... WTHeck! |
Y User ID: 948310 Slovakia 04/20/2010 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jeez.. can't anyone think for a second? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9481651st. This is not an approved information. Could be a bogus. 2nd. What kind of an idiotic secret service would take down a plane.. allegedly and casually murder its survivors on site while being filmed doing it and finally without any hesitation murder the shady mysterious person who filmed it almost two weeks later to seal the deal and final the impression in other words: "prove" everyone that the "leaked" recording was "legitimate". Not Russian I tell you. Anyone who thinks this has been deliberately done by Russia is a... This is not the work of Russia but Russia will be possibly framed if it gets mainstream. Which may not because so far only western doomtards are blaming Russia for this sad sad event. Now add to it the interesting fact that almost none of the Western officials attended the poor President's funeral due to.. "the almighty invisible ash cloud which mysteriously covered the skies above entire Europe completely". If this gets viral.. this: "OMG RUSSIA DID IT!! LETS ALL HIDE IN THE OUTHOUSE!! TIS THE NUKES!!" - Then someone is desperately looking forward for a new conflict and this is just the beginning. If not.. then just relax. Planes fall all the time. This one just happened to have a President in it. May he rest in peace. you have to think.If its true it would be so unbelievable to the public that it have to be untrue! Its easy then for gov and media to tell the public it was a normal plane crash. If you see a flying saucer, you know its a flying saucer...you have a vid of the flying saucer and its real! Nobody would believe you just because the media and everyone is laughing about it, nobody would investigate.Know what I mean...you,we live here how some people want us to live here... No, you think. If a secret service takes down a plane on it's own soil for everybody to see.. then it is not a secret service. These accusations pointing towards Russia are outrageous. If it was all well-prepared and planned by Russia's secret service.. do you really think they would let the guy film it? Or let him walk away together with the old fella who was standing nearby? I think not. If this would be a devised and carefully planned super secret operation of Russia's FSB as you propose.. we would never hear of the filming guy. He would be lying in an unmarked grave somewhere near Smolensk together with his cellphone and the old fella. The only objection I have is.. that Russia is not to blame. It seems like, the ones responsible for this.. (if it was indeed not an accident) wanted the plane to crash in Russia so everybody would blame who? - Russia. They were quite successful then.. not only did they get rid of Poland's political and military leadership but also removed all blame and traces leading to them - because everybody is pointing their fingers on Russia. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 154004 Italy 04/20/2010 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what i dont get is, if people from the airplane where shot than that should be obvious when the russian and/or polish goverment investigated the crash site and see people shot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 922574alarm bells would go off in both goverments. so wtf ?! why havent we heard anything from both those goverments yet ? are they still investigating ? whats going on !? DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD LEAVE THE BODIES OF THE ONES THEY SHOT?~?~~? Think about it for a second. still it would be clear that bodies are missing ! it makes no sense. dead bodies dont go up in thin smoke. Most bodies in a planecrash liquidfy upon contact..that`s right ya turn to liquid..anything above a G$ or G5 impact I believe...No bodies would be found...maybe some teeth and a few scattered bones This could be true but only if the plane was at a very step angle to thwe terrain, make no sense since the plane was flying over the top trees it's not like it went dead on to the terrain from miles high. Also was there any blood in the scene? blood should be there with almost 100 people onboard. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 948292 United States 04/20/2010 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russians, iran.... who can really tell...for sure exactly. Does the average person have access to this high level knowledge...no..one thing is for certain..I believe..I CAN all be linked to one place... one one big ass family...old family.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 948286 United States 04/20/2010 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jeez.. can't anyone think for a second? Quoting: Y 9483101st. This is not an approved information. Could be a bogus. 2nd. What kind of an idiotic secret service would take down a plane.. allegedly and casually murder its survivors on site while being filmed doing it and finally without any hesitation murder the shady mysterious person who filmed it almost two weeks later to seal the deal and final the impression in other words: "prove" everyone that the "leaked" recording was "legitimate". Not Russian I tell you. Anyone who thinks this has been deliberately done by Russia is a... This is not the work of Russia but Russia will be possibly framed if it gets mainstream. Which may not because so far only western doomtards are blaming Russia for this sad sad event. Now add to it the interesting fact that almost none of the Western officials attended the poor President's funeral due to.. "the almighty invisible ash cloud which mysteriously covered the skies above entire Europe completely". If this gets viral.. this: "OMG RUSSIA DID IT!! LETS ALL HIDE IN THE OUTHOUSE!! TIS THE NUKES!!" - Then someone is desperately looking forward for a new conflict and this is just the beginning. If not.. then just relax. Planes fall all the time. This one just happened to have a President in it. May he rest in peace. you have to think.If its true it would be so unbelievable to the public that it have to be untrue! Its easy then for gov and media to tell the public it was a normal plane crash. If you see a flying saucer, you know its a flying saucer...you have a vid of the flying saucer and its real! Nobody would believe you just because the media and everyone is laughing about it, nobody would investigate.Know what I mean...you,we live here how some people want us to live here... No, you think. If a secret service takes down a plane on it's own soil for everybody to see.. then it is not a secret service. These accusations pointing towards Russia are outrageous. If it was all well-prepared and planned by Russia's secret service.. do you really think they would let the guy film it? Or let him walk away together with the old fella who was standing nearby? I think not. If this would be a devised and carefully planned super secret operation of Russia's FSB as you propose.. we would never hear of the filming guy. He would be lying in an unmarked grave somewhere near Smolensk together with his cellphone and the old fella. The only objection I have is.. that Russia is not to blame. It seems like, the ones responsible for this.. (if it was indeed not an accident) wanted the plane to crash in Russia so everybody would blame who? - Russia. They were quite successful then.. not only did they get rid of Poland's political and military leadership but also removed all blame and traces leading to them - because everybody is pointing their fingers on Russia. makes sense. Yet its also possible that russia could do such as that theory could sway opinions . I agree it not right for him to not have had his camera or person removed from the scene, Yet I see on the film where he seemed to be one of the first on the scene and the possiblity of him getting away remains slim yet possible. Add to the fact he was stabbed 3 times survived even that... to be stabbed 3 more times... NO survivors when russia takes a chance to remove all oposition to russia control against the american missle shield... That makes sense as well wouldnt you agree. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 442346 United States 04/20/2010 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Easy to debunk the film. Get the aerial google map pictures. Get the areial photos of the actual plane crash. Then look for obvious landmarks from the "film". Trees, buildings, houses. If they don't match up, the "video" is a fake or an outake from some movie. Happy hunting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 948286 United States 04/20/2010 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what i dont get is, if people from the airplane where shot than that should be obvious when the russian and/or polish goverment investigated the crash site and see people shot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 154004alarm bells would go off in both goverments. so wtf ?! why havent we heard anything from both those goverments yet ? are they still investigating ? whats going on !? DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD LEAVE THE BODIES OF THE ONES THEY SHOT?~?~~? Think about it for a second. still it would be clear that bodies are missing ! it makes no sense. dead bodies dont go up in thin smoke. Most bodies in a planecrash liquidfy upon contact..that`s right ya turn to liquid..anything above a G$ or G5 impact I believe...No bodies would be found...maybe some teeth and a few scattered bones This could be true but only if the plane was at a very step angle to thwe terrain, make no sense since the plane was flying over the top trees it's not like it went dead on to the terrain from miles high. Also was there any blood in the scene? blood should be there with almost 100 people onboard. the video showed a man with blood still being pumped by his heart thru his body. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 948336 Slovenia 04/20/2010 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jeez.. can't anyone think for a second? Quoting: Y 9483101st. This is not an approved information. Could be a bogus. 2nd. What kind of an idiotic secret service would take down a plane.. allegedly and casually murder its survivors on site while being filmed doing it and finally without any hesitation murder the shady mysterious person who filmed it almost two weeks later to seal the deal and final the impression in other words: "prove" everyone that the "leaked" recording was "legitimate". Not Russian I tell you. Anyone who thinks this has been deliberately done by Russia is a... This is not the work of Russia but Russia will be possibly framed if it gets mainstream. Which may not because so far only western doomtards are blaming Russia for this sad sad event. Now add to it the interesting fact that almost none of the Western officials attended the poor President's funeral due to.. "the almighty invisible ash cloud which mysteriously covered the skies above entire Europe completely". If this gets viral.. this: "OMG RUSSIA DID IT!! LETS ALL HIDE IN THE OUTHOUSE!! TIS THE NUKES!!" - Then someone is desperately looking forward for a new conflict and this is just the beginning. If not.. then just relax. Planes fall all the time. This one just happened to have a President in it. May he rest in peace. you have to think.If its true it would be so unbelievable to the public that it have to be untrue! Its easy then for gov and media to tell the public it was a normal plane crash. If you see a flying saucer, you know its a flying saucer...you have a vid of the flying saucer and its real! Nobody would believe you just because the media and everyone is laughing about it, nobody would investigate.Know what I mean...you,we live here how some people want us to live here... No, you think. If a secret service takes down a plane on it's own soil for everybody to see.. then it is not a secret service. These accusations pointing towards Russia are outrageous. If it was all well-prepared and planned by Russia's secret service.. do you really think they would let the guy film it? Or let him walk away together with the old fella who was standing nearby? I think not. If this would be a devised and carefully planned super secret operation of Russia's FSB as you propose.. we would never hear of the filming guy. He would be lying in an unmarked grave somewhere near Smolensk together with his cellphone and the old fella. The only objection I have is.. that Russia is not to blame. It seems like, the ones responsible for this.. (if it was indeed not an accident) wanted the plane to crash in Russia so everybody would blame who? - Russia. They were quite successful then.. not only did they get rid of Poland's political and military leadership but also removed all blame and traces leading to them - because everybody is pointing their fingers on Russia. It was not an accident. And it may well be a foreign operation to put the blame on Russia. The only thing that goes against this theory is the fact that the Polish president was pro US. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 948286 United States 04/20/2010 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Easy to debunk the film. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442346Get the aerial google map pictures. Get the areial photos of the actual plane crash. Then look for obvious landmarks from the "film". Trees, buildings, houses. If they don't match up, the "video" is a fake or an outake from some movie. Happy hunting. Official RT footage of crash site shows that the video location is genuine, [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 917275 United States 04/20/2010 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Easy to debunk the film. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442346Get the aerial google map pictures. Get the areial photos of the actual plane crash. Then look for obvious landmarks from the "film". Trees, buildings, houses. If they don't match up, the "video" is a fake or an outake from some movie. Happy hunting. |
sono User ID: 948091 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WE HAVE GOT TO FIND ANOTHER SOURCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948286Verify people, verify. The video shows more then one survivor. The fact remains ammo cooked off and now those survivors did not survive. Nor did the camera man. It was staged...I saw better acting at a kids 4th grade play... Ok the fact remains that the survivors nor the camera man survived. So your point of view is very posibly and makes this even scarier. If it was staged.. By who. Iran? to provoke ww3? israel? russia? the US? korea? this video is literally a smoking gun that left NO surviors. When history repeats its self, do you notice.... |
HL Shancken User ID: 758345 United States 04/20/2010 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will not cause world war. The Soviets killed General Patton and there was no retribution from the U.S. whatsoever. A Soviet agent, trained by the Soviets and given the mission of assassinating JFK, did so, and there were no negative repurcussions to the Soviet Union. The Soviets shot down KAL007 and by doing so assassinated a rising anti-Soviet U.S. congressman. There was no retaliation against the USSR. The Soviets wiped out the South Korean presidential entourage traveling on a top-secret trip in Rangoon in 1983, narrowly missing the anti-communist president but killing his top aides and ministers. There was no negative impact to the Soviet Union. In 1983 the Soviet Union was behind the bombing of the U.S. marine barracks in Beirut. They killed 241 Americans and some French citizens, and there was no war declared but rather a retreat was sounded. In 1998 the Soviet agent Ayman al-Zawahiri blew up two U.S. embassies in Africa. There was no punishment doles out to Russia, no war declared. On September 11, 2001, the Soviets carried out via their arab agents attacks against airliners and buildings in the U.S. War was declared, but not against Russia. In November 2006 former FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko, the man who was in charge of security for Ayman al-Zawahiri while he was receiving training from the GRU in Dagestan, Russia, a naturalized British citizen, was assassinated on BRitish soil by the Russian government. The assassin, named Lugovoy, was rewarded with a seat on the Duma, which gives him immunity from extradition. Notice there were no repurcussions against Russia whatsoever. Russia kills with impunity. A revolution worth joining. Holistic medicine's finest hour. |
Thesonofhendrix User ID: 948091 United Kingdom 04/20/2010 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WE HAVE GOT TO FIND ANOTHER SOURCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: sono 948091Verify people, verify. The video shows more then one survivor. The fact remains ammo cooked off and now those survivors did not survive. Nor did the camera man. It was staged...I saw better acting at a kids 4th grade play... Ok the fact remains that the survivors nor the camera man survived. So your point of view is very posibly and makes this even scarier. If it was staged.. By who. Iran? to provoke ww3? israel? russia? the US? korea? this video is literally a smoking gun that left NO surviors. When history repeats its self, do you notice.... Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 945460 Singapore 04/20/2010 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russians, iran.... who can really tell...for sure exactly. Does the average person have access to this high level knowledge...no..one thing is for certain..I believe..I CAN all be linked to one place... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948292one one big ass family...old family.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 576059 United States 04/20/2010 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw people walking, standing, jumping (maybe) from the plane. The guy with the camera was not necessarily the FIRST person to arrive. Not doubting the crash was planned/set up, that could easily be truth, just doubt this story, it's too shit stirry with no proof (honest translation anyone?) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 948286 United States 04/20/2010 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WE HAVE GOT TO FIND ANOTHER SOURCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: sono 948091Verify people, verify. The video shows more then one survivor. The fact remains ammo cooked off and now those survivors did not survive. Nor did the camera man. It was staged...I saw better acting at a kids 4th grade play... Ok the fact remains that the survivors nor the camera man survived. So your point of view is very posibly and makes this even scarier. If it was staged.. By who. Iran? to provoke ww3? israel? russia? the US? korea? this video is literally a smoking gun that left NO surviors. When history repeats its self, do you notice.... yes. |
fuqua User ID: 632507 Netherlands 04/20/2010 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what i dont get is, if people from the airplane where shot than that should be obvious when the russian and/or polish goverment investigated the crash site and see people shot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948286alarm bells would go off in both goverments. so wtf ?! why havent we heard anything from both those goverments yet ? are they still investigating ? whats going on !? DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD LEAVE THE BODIES OF THE ONES THEY SHOT?~?~~? Think about it for a second. still it would be clear that bodies are missing ! it makes no sense. dead bodies dont go up in thin smoke. when you have the below you do. "Prime Minister Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (Shalomov) to head a commission to ‘investigate’ the crash" oke but that is russian side, what about the polish side, would they just roll over and believe ? not launching a investigation on their own ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 948286 United States 04/20/2010 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry... What "Obvious Survivors"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 576059I saw people walking, standing, jumping (maybe) from the plane. The guy with the camera was not necessarily the FIRST person to arrive. Not doubting the crash was planned/set up, that could easily be truth, just doubt this story, it's too shit stirry with no proof (honest translation anyone?) the one in the video posted that is zoomed in on and circled in red, wearing white clothing who raises his arm |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 948286 United States 04/20/2010 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what i dont get is, if people from the airplane where shot than that should be obvious when the russian and/or polish goverment investigated the crash site and see people shot. Quoting: fuqua 632507alarm bells would go off in both goverments. so wtf ?! why havent we heard anything from both those goverments yet ? are they still investigating ? whats going on !? DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD LEAVE THE BODIES OF THE ONES THEY SHOT?~?~~? Think about it for a second. still it would be clear that bodies are missing ! it makes no sense. dead bodies dont go up in thin smoke. when you have the below you do. "Prime Minister Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (Shalomov) to head a commission to ‘investigate’ the crash" oke but that is russian side, what about the polish side, would they just roll over and believe ? not launching a investigation on their own ? not when russia or someone removed ALL opposition to their control. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 948286 United States 04/20/2010 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what i dont get is, if people from the airplane where shot than that should be obvious when the russian and/or polish goverment investigated the crash site and see people shot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948286alarm bells would go off in both goverments. so wtf ?! why havent we heard anything from both those goverments yet ? are they still investigating ? whats going on !? DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD LEAVE THE BODIES OF THE ONES THEY SHOT?~?~~? Think about it for a second. still it would be clear that bodies are missing ! it makes no sense. dead bodies dont go up in thin smoke. when you have the below you do. "Prime Minister Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (Shalomov) to head a commission to ‘investigate’ the crash" oke but that is russian side, what about the polish side, would they just roll over and believe ? not launching a investigation on their own ? not when russia or someone removed ALL opposition to their control. because the ones who will be given power have it in their intrest to STFU. Or so I would think. |
fuqua User ID: 632507 Netherlands 04/20/2010 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what i dont get is, if people from the airplane where shot than that should be obvious when the russian and/or polish goverment investigated the crash site and see people shot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 922574alarm bells would go off in both goverments. so wtf ?! why havent we heard anything from both those goverments yet ? are they still investigating ? whats going on !? DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD LEAVE THE BODIES OF THE ONES THEY SHOT?~?~~? Think about it for a second. still it would be clear that bodies are missing ! it makes no sense. dead bodies dont go up in thin smoke. Most bodies in a planecrash liquidfy upon contact..that`s right ya turn to liquid..anything above a G$ or G5 impact I believe...No bodies would be found...maybe some teeth and a few scattered bones yea but i think we can rule out it was a G4 or G5 impact since there where survivors. |
HL Shancken User ID: 758345 United States 04/20/2010 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I had to guess I would say there is more than one communist intelligence service officer posting here on this thread. Obviously, they are the ones telling us not to be so hasty in blaming Russia for what they will tell you was merely a tragic accident. Good morning from the USA, all you KGB officers intent on projecting your guilt onto others. What Stalin did to your ranks during his purges is nothing compared to what's coming your way when the world turns on you. A revolution worth joining. Holistic medicine's finest hour. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 442346 United States 04/20/2010 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Easy to debunk the film. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 917275Get the aerial google map pictures. Get the areial photos of the actual plane crash. Then look for obvious landmarks from the "film". Trees, buildings, houses. If they don't match up, the "video" is a fake or an outake from some movie. Happy hunting. Why would finding out the truth be a shill warning? "If the trees don't fit; you must aquit". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 948310 Slovakia 04/20/2010 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | makes sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948286Yet its also possible that russia could do such as that theory could sway opinions . I agree it not right for him to not have had his camera or person removed from the scene, Yet I see on the film where he seemed to be one of the first on the scene and the possiblity of him getting away remains slim yet possible. Add to the fact he was stabbed 3 times survived even that... to be stabbed 3 more times... NO survivors when russia takes a chance to remove all oposition to russia control against the american missle shield... That makes sense as well wouldnt you agree. You do not know Russia. They do not mess around with expendables. If it was indeed Russian S.S. the guy would be killed right there at the spot where he filmed it. Not additionally 2 weeks later. If he was truly stabbed to death in a manner which does not resemble a hit which indeed was a work of a hitman.(Hitmen never kill obviously but make it look like accidents or street fights.) So if he was really killed then it again served well the shady ones responsible for the crash. Because again the blame would fall on Russia and not on them. Each time something big happens.. ask yourself who profits from it the most and you will have the culprit. My bet is IMF. |