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| Michael Lee Hill (OP) User ID: 948767 04/24/2010 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! They are life forms. They are aware of any consciousness, especially when that consciousness is watching them in any form. You see them, they already know you see them and know everything that your brain contains. Anything they do for you is because they are amusing themselves by our reactions. Maybe we are like amusing pets to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 949853Yes, It is like meeting a new life form that speaks to you directly through your own personal reality through Synchronicity. I had a Gentleman sit it front of me who is a representative of this cosmic consciousness who said Michael, i only appear to you as this Mayan Elder because it's something you can understand and process, I take this form so we can meet and talk in this moment but he told me he was only in human form for my "Convenience" It seems they can become whatever they wish in our realities, think about that for a moment. Last Edited by Michael Lee Hill on 04/24/2010 12:27 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 951535 04/24/2010 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! Only my point of view here Mike, but true UFO research has absolutely nothing to do with money. I respect more your opinion (and a few others here) about UFO's than any report from MUFON, although I can read MUFON reports. Politics is all about money, control and 3D bondage. "Contact" with UFO's (benign folks there I mean) is all about freedom and inner growth! They don't mix/blend. But thank you for bringing all the info and videos, very interesting indeed. Another 5* thread!:-) |
| Michael Lee Hill (OP) User ID: 948767 04/24/2010 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! Only my point of view here Mike, but true UFO research has absolutely nothing to do with money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 951535I respect more your opinion (and a few others here) about UFO's than any report from MUFON, although I can read MUFON reports. Politics is all about money, control and 3D bondage. "Contact" with UFO's (benign folks there I mean) is all about freedom and inner growth! They don't mix/blend. But thank you for bringing all the info and videos, very interesting indeed. Another 5* thread!:-) I know what you are saying but I feel Robert Bigelow's heart is in the right place, Ya he is a billionare but he is invested millions of dollars into research & "contact" with this consciousness. And i think that is great. Money is not always a bad thing, it's just energy. If Bigelow can help prepare the masses for the knowledge we are not alone, then it's great, If he hides all of this which he has not to this point, then he would be wrong but he has not kept secret what he has been up to, it's just that nobody is paying attention it seems. |
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| Michael Lee Hill (OP) User ID: 948767 04/25/2010 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! If he has honourable intentions Quoting: Firebird 952461the thunderbirds can help him. ![]() Last Edited by Michael Lee Hill on 04/25/2010 05:13 AM |
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| HighAwareness User ID: 944313 04/26/2010 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! Amazing thread, that's a crazy and blatant patch! Critical mass, yes it's reaching! They are life forms. They are aware of any consciousness, especially when that consciousness is watching them in any form. You see them, they already know you see them and know everything that your brain contains. Anything they do for you is because they are amusing themselves by our reactions. Maybe we are like amusing pets to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 949853That's why they stop and "look" at the camera when you spot them, because they know you are looking at them, and they are scanning all the minds that are and will see them. Why? I don't know. Your thoughts are not their thoughts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 949853They are life forms. They are aware of any consciousness, especially when that consciousness is watching them in any form. You see them, they already know you see them and know everything that your brain contains. Anything they do for you is because they are amusing themselves by our reactions. Maybe we are like amusing pets to them. Quoting: Michael Lee HillYes, It is like meeting a new life form that speaks to you directly through your own personal reality through Synchronicity. I had a Gentleman sit it front of me who is a representative of this cosmic consciousness who said Michael, i only appear to you as this Mayan Elder because it's something you can understand and process, I take this form so we can meet and talk in this moment but he told me he was only in human form for my "Convenience" Yes you have it, you are looking deeper into the situation. There is no need for prophecy in this regards, yet your spiritual nature is entirely important to understand, consciousness is powerful and more real than your physical form. So when you interact consciously with another being, you are making changes and waves and interacting on a level more than physicality and if they are highly conscious, then they are aware of your thoughts simply by YOU THINK OF THEM! |
| Firebird User ID: 952461 04/26/2010 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! They haven’t trust in people to reveal all their existence, one unfortunate homunculus says: "Don’t talk to aliens" or rather "Pay attention to me". We will talk to them if they want to talk with us. The crop circles are the sign that they have such intentions but they are not in a hurry. And they can not be aliens too. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 893013 04/26/2010 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! STEPHEN HAWKING SPEAKS OUT: Stephen Hawking believes we should fear aliens, which would probably come to Earth in search of resources and bent on our destruction. The venerated cosmologist says in a new Discovery Channel series that he thinks aliens exist, but we should do everything we can to avoid meeting them. Any life intelligent enough to find us would probably be seeking resources, he says. And that would likely be bad news for humans. "We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet," he says. Among billions of galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars, Earth is probably not the only place where life evolved, he says. To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational," he said. "The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like." Hawking, 68, spent three years working on the documentary, which highlights his thinking about several topics, the Times reported. He's previously spoken in favor of human colonization of other planets, arguing it would ensure the human race would survive nuclear war or asteroid collisions that could make Earth uninhabitable. But he says aliens with the same motivations would probably not be trustworthy. "If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans," Hawking says. |
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| Firebird User ID: 952461 04/26/2010 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! STEPHEN HAWKING SPEAKS OUT: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 893013Stephen Hawking believes we should fear aliens, which would probably come to Earth in search of resources and bent on our destruction. The venerated cosmologist says in a new Discovery Channel series that he thinks aliens exist, but we should do everything we can to avoid meeting them. Any life intelligent enough to find us would probably be seeking resources, he says. And that would likely be bad news for humans. "We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet," he says. Among billions of galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars, Earth is probably not the only place where life evolved, he says. To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational," he said. "The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like." Hawking, 68, spent three years working on the documentary, which highlights his thinking about several topics, the Times reported. He's previously spoken in favor of human colonization of other planets, arguing it would ensure the human race would survive nuclear war or asteroid collisions that could make Earth uninhabitable. But he says aliens with the same motivations would probably not be trustworthy. "If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans," Hawking says. Don’t make to you yourself idols and don’t bow to authorities. Stephen Hawking also thinks that there has been a Big Bang and his physics cannot explain even the ball lightnings. If he see some day something much resembling firebirds what he will think. For me it was only a shocking awareness that the reality has to include them with us and they have to be explained, nothing else. |
| Michael Lee Hill (OP) User ID: 948767 04/27/2010 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! STEPHEN HAWKING SPEAKS OUT: Quoting: Firebird 952461Stephen Hawking believes we should fear aliens, which would probably come to Earth in search of resources and bent on our destruction. The venerated cosmologist says in a new Discovery Channel series that he thinks aliens exist, but we should do everything we can to avoid meeting them. Any life intelligent enough to find us would probably be seeking resources, he says. And that would likely be bad news for humans. "We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet," he says. Among billions of galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars, Earth is probably not the only place where life evolved, he says. To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational," he said. "The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like." Hawking, 68, spent three years working on the documentary, which highlights his thinking about several topics, the Times reported. He's previously spoken in favor of human colonization of other planets, arguing it would ensure the human race would survive nuclear war or asteroid collisions that could make Earth uninhabitable. But he says aliens with the same motivations would probably not be trustworthy. "If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans," Hawking says. Don’t make to you yourself idols and don’t bow to authorities. Stephen Hawking also thinks that there has been a Big Bang and his physics cannot explain even the ball lightnings. If he see some day something much resembling firebirds what he will think. For me it was only a shocking awareness that the reality has to include them with us and they have to be explained, nothing else. Indeed, just one mans opinion |
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| Michael Lee Hill (OP) User ID: 957807 05/01/2010 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UFO's being studied by Bigelow Aerospace!!!!! - Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch! - What do they know? Listen and find out! NIDS was reborn and became Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) by the way. The Hunt for the Skinwalker The True Story of What Happened when Science Confronted Anomalies at a Ranch in Rural Utah by Colm Keller PHD - NIDS/Bigelow Aerospace Scientist and George Knapp A picturesque ranch in a remote corner of Utah just might rank as the weirdest place on Earth. UFOs, animal mutilations, Bigfoot sightings, poltergeist activity, Native American witchcraft, and assorted monsters, beasts, and apparitions have been reported on the property by dozens of people for half a century or more. This concentration of so-called paranormal phenomena, in one location over an extended period of time, offered an opportunity for an unprecedented and courageous scientific undertaking, a study that is every bit as interesting as the strange events that unfolded on the allegedly cursed acreage. The National Institute for Discovery Science was, and is, a unique organization. Created and led by billionaire visionary Robert Bigelow, the purpose of NIDS was to apply the full force and precision of scienti ic methodology and technology to investigate anomalies. Anomalies here include the elusive unidentied flying object field as well as investigation of unexplained paranormal phenomena. Hunt for the Skinwalker, published in December 2005, is a blow by blow account of an in-depth investigation by NIDS into a ranch in rural Utah that appeared to be a Grand Central Station for all manner of weird and bizarre phenomena, some lethal and others just downright scary. The ranch is located in an out of the way part of North-East Utah known as the Uinta Basin. It is a beautiful, if barren, area with a population of devout Mormons living side by side with several hundred members of the Ute tribe. The ranch in question is essentially surrounded by the Ute reservation. The tribe has long believed that the property is “in the path of the Skinwalker”, an evil presence capable of changing its shape and manipulating human minds. The alleged Skinwalker curse that surrounds the property provides a blanket explanation among the Utes for the smorgasbord of bizarre activity that’s been seen on the property for more than a century. In late 1994, the Gorman family purchased and moved onto the 480-acre ranch that had been abandoned for almost seven years. The family was looking for an idyllic spot where they could raise their eighty registered black Simintal and Angus cattle for auction. The Gormans were experts in the artiicial insemination of cattle and in the manipulation of bloodlines to produce purebred, show-quality animals that routinely sold for many thousands of dollars each. This was no casual ranching operation: the Gormans took it personally if even a single animal was lost during a year. Within a few months of moving onto the property the family began to see strange yellow lights moving among their cattle, above their home, even outside their windows. Valuable cattle began to disappear without a trace. Others were found dead, butchered with precision by unknown forces, often missing internal organs and drained of blood. Who was killing their prized livestock? Neighbors with a vendetta? Or could the mysterious surgeries have some sort of connection to the unidentiied lights that were so often seen at night in the Gormans’ pastures? At the same time the family saw huge wolves that made fleeting appearances over a period of weeks and then disappeared altogether. They saw Bigfoot-like creatures prowling their property, heard the ominous growls of large but unknown animals, and were nauseated by overwhelming musk odors generated by unseen beasts that caused cattle, horses, and dogs to cower and panic. Simultaneously, the family encountered silent lying refrigerator- shaped objects that seemed at home on the ranch. As the weeks passed, they experienced Poltergeist activity in their home. Doors would slam open in the middle of the night. Areas of their pasture would suddenly light up after midnight although they could never pinpoint the source of light. Objects would disappear from their home and end up in the washing machine, the microwave oven, in tree branches, or other unusual locations. They routinely observed bright-blue baseball-sized orbs that effortlessly maneuvered around their property and had the effect of dimming the lights in the ranch house whenever they came close. The family witnessed strange clouds filled with exploding silent lights above their home, like scenes from a Steven Spielberg movie. They heard disembodied voices laughing and mocking them in some incomprehensible language. They heard metallic banging when they went out for walks at night, as well as the muffled sounds of gigantic machinery emanating from the ground. Tom Gorman began to crawl around in the dead of night in chilly winter conditions trying to catch whatever perpetrator was killing his cattle and conducting such a ruthless exercise in psychological warfare against his increasingly fearful family. Gorman’s teenage kids, who had been straight A students, began to bring home Cs and Ds in their report cards. As time went on and sleeplessness began to catch up with the family, they began to huddle together in the living room of their homestead, sleeping together for safety in case something came out of the darkness to attack them. One time as Tom Gorman lay in the freezing snow watching for any unusual activity, he saw a silent miniature version of the F-117 aircraft moving slowly above the snow as if it was searching for something. The silent craft was no more than twenty feet above the ground and was emitting some dazzling “disco-like” lights on the snow. After Tom stretched his aching bones, the craft suddenly turned towards him as if it heard the sound. It then slowly flew out of his vision. On another quiet evening Ellen Gorman was shadowed by a huge black triangular craft that paced thirty feet above the car as she drove fearfully towards her homestead. Throughout 1994, and continuing on through 1995 and 1996, the Gormans were stalked by something that they could not explain. Something that invaded their privacy, killed their prized cattle and seemed to be able to anticipate their every move. Ellen Gorman began to believe that whatever “intelligence” was on their property could read her mind and seemed to be toying with her in a calculated attempt at driving her insane. In summer 1996, after Tom Gorman lost his three favorite cattle dogs when they were incinerated by a small, blue baseball sized flying orb that appeared to be under intelligent control, his family eventually wore him down and persuaded him to sell the property. The family just wanted to get away from the nightmare that was terrorizing them. In August of 1996, NIDS purchased the property and the Gorman family gratefully moved to another location about 25 miles away where they could begin to catch up on sleep, and stop having their lives subjected to such a continuous, brutal series of nasty attacks. In summer 1996 NIDS hired several mainstream scientists, including a veterinarian, as full time research employees and together with a 16 member science advisory board culled from the top levels of government labs and academia, began the process of creating a laboratory of the paranormal on the remote ranch in Utah. Tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment was deployed on the property and a command and control center was set up staffed by scientists round the clock. During 1997 NIDS hired additional investigators to complement the scientific staff. By then, NIDS had become a relatively large and completely unique organization in that they were fully funded to the tune of millions of dollars, they were staffed by full time professional scientists and they employed several seasoned investigators. This impressive intellectual and financial firepower was then brought to bear on the mysterious Utah ranch. Within a few months, beginning in late 1996 and continuing through early 1997, NIDS scientists were confronted with a litany of terrifying incidents including the brutal killing of a calf in broad day light, encounters with large creatures that left few tracks and seemed to be more ghostly than real, unusual hovering orbs of light, bizarre phenomena that were visible with night vision technology but invisible to normal eyesight, and spikes in magnetic field intensities that seemed to coincide with other strange happenings on the property. In the case of the dramatic killing of a calf on March 10 1997, NIDS forensic pathology research uncovered startling evidence that the calf had been killed in broad daylight and that several different sharp instruments had been used during or after the killing. In addition, something had completely removed all the blood from the calf, without leaving even a drop of blood on or near the animal. The complete removal of every drop of blood from an animal in broad daylight with a couple of eyewitnesses only a few hundred yards away was truly a spectacular feat of derring-do for anyone who has tried to field dress an animal in the middle of the wilderness. NIDS scientists witnessed the same mysterious flying orbs that the Gormans had described, as they moved silently around the property in the dead of night. These incidents were tracked faithfully using the latest scientific technology as they hunted their elusive quarry around the 480-acre property. It was like chasing phantoms. No two incidents they encountered ever seemed alike. The kitchen sink was being thrown at the scientists, and the challenge was to try to capture the endless series of strange happenings either on film, on video or on one of the scientfiic instruments that were deployed on the property. Thus began an exhilarating exercise in tracking something that was exhibiting all the hallmarks of intelligence; an elusive trickster that appeared to be a couple of steps ahead at all times. Something that could leave an occasional calling card in the form of a brutally ripped up calf carcass, unusual tracks in the snow, tantalizing infrared images, or that could wantonly destroy surveillance equipment while leaving insuf icient physical evidence behind that might constitute a smoking gun. Although the trickster often brutally killed animals, humans apparently were spared. Regardless, NIDS scientists were never sure what would come roaring out of the darkness at them as they silently conducted night watches on the remote Utah property. NIDS researchers hunted their elusive quarry month after month while also exploring a range of alternative explanations including unknown natural phenomena or even hoaxes might be responsible. Were there hallucinogenic plants on the property? The answer is no. Was the Utah ranch a playground for testing exotic military toys on unsuspecting people, including holographic technology? Was it an experimental arena for the testing of advanced assassination (by silently killing cattle) techniques used by special forces? Was the ranch a paranormal meeting place for all kinds of cryptids? Was there a dimensional “portal” located on the property? As the team methodically eliminated some of the more mundane possibilities, more and more exotic hypotheses for the high strangeness seemed to assert themselves. As the ‘hunt for the Skinwalker’ unfolded, the search ultimately led some of the scientists to begin looking at reality in a whole new way. They began to ask the question: is it possible that exotic concepts in physics like multiple dimensions, or traversable wormholes, or string theory, or brane multiverses, might have some counterpart in the real world here on Earth? Or was there some aspect of human consciousness that could somehow trigger these unusual happenings on a regular basis? Were the pages of some arcane physics journals ultimately describing some parts of physical reality that appeared to explode and happen to ordinary human beings here on Earth? Hunt for the Skinwalker draws on the bizarre experiences documented by scientists to ask some very fundamental questions about the nature of reality. Our book came about after one of us, Emmy award winning investigative journalist George Knapp, was allowed on the Utah property beginning in 2002 to report on some of the bizarre activity that had successfully operated under the radar since 1996. His two articles, entitled Path of the Skinwalker, were published in a Las Vegas newspaper in 2002 and quickly found a worldwide audience as tens of thousands of paranormal enthusiasts eagerly downloaded the narratives. George’s articles broke the silence on the NIDS research which had been conducted in near-total secrecy for several years. The newspaper articles were the inspiration for Hunt for the Skinwalker, which describes the unprecedented scientific investigation of anomalous activity, an effort that evolved into a multi-year contest of wills between technology and the “trickster”. The book is also a wake up call for science about the potential importance of studying anomalies and about the possibility that human understanding of the nature of reality seems poised on the cusp of fundamental shift. These studies may be the doors that open up new avenues of discovery – and in doing so, all of what constitutes reality may have to be re-examined. For more information about the book, see [link to www.huntfortheskinwalker.com.] More detailed information about NIDS can be found at [link to www.nidsci.org] Colm Kelleher is a senior research scientist with a twenty-year career in cell and molecular biology. Following his PhD in biochemistry from the University of Dublin, Trinity College in 1983, Dr. Kelleher worked at Canada’s flagship Ontario Cancer Institute, the Terry Fox Laboratory at the British Columbia Cancer Research Center in Vancouver and the National Jewish Center for Immunology and Respiratory Medicine in Denver. More recently, Dr. Kelleher served as Research Director for Bigelow Aerospace in Las Vegas and as administrator for one of its subsidiaries, Space Sciences, Inc. Dr. Kelleher also acted as team leader and project manager for the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS). Currently, Dr. Kelleher is the Director of Labs for a biotechnology firm in San Francisco. He has authored 38 peer-reviewed publications in molecular biology, immunology, biochemistry and virology as well as articles in popular magazines such as OMNI. George Knapp is an award winning investigative journalist and television anchorman. Since 1995, he has been chief reporter for the I-Team investigative unit at KLAS-TV Ch 8 in Las Vegas. He began his career as a journalist at KLAS in 1981 as a general assignment reporter after two years as a cameraman and production assistant at KLVX-TV. Mr. Knapp has worked as a speech teacher at CalPoly, a debate coach at UC Berkeley and broadcast journalism teacher at UNLV. He was awarded two regional Edward R Murrow awards and a national Murrow award for his investigative stories on voter registration fraud in the Clark County election of 2004. Mr. Knapp won seven Emmy Awards for his “Street Talk” commentaries and one Emmy for an investigative story, seven Mark Twain Awards for best news writing from AP. In 1990, his series about UFOs was selected by United Press International as best in the nation for Individual Achievement by a Journalist Last Edited by Michael Lee Hill on 05/01/2010 04:21 PM |
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