Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,310 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 182,862
Pageviews Today: 304,021Threads Today: 113Posts Today: 2,050
03:10 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.

 
Sallam
Offer Upgrade

User ID: 941980
Canada
04/23/2010 09:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
There is nothing in Islam that condones this practice or prohibits it, you will find nothing in the scxriptures that say much about it at all.

It is an Egyptian and African cultural thing that due to it's dangers is being spoken out against by many Islamic groups.

There is an effort by Islamic groups to weed out this practice by educating these people that it is dangerous and not an Islamic practice.

Many fatwas have been issued condemning this practice, however it persists as a cultural icon having nothing at all to do with Islam.


----------------------

DAKAR (AlertNet) - Human rights campaigners who have been struggling for years to eliminate female genital mutilation (FGM) in West Africa got a boost this week as news emerged that a group of Muslim clerics and scholars in Mauritania had declared a fatwa, or religious decree, against the practice.

[link to www.alertnet.org]

---------------------

The problem is not one that affects Islam alone unfortunately, as in Egypt this practice is also prevelent among Christian Copt sects...

But you will never hear of this from a Christian.

Instead of fighting against this practice in the developing world they choose to sweep it under the rug.

---------------------

Many Muslims and academics in the West take pains to insist that the practice is not rooted in religion[1] but rather in culture.

"When one considers that the practice does not prevail and is much condemned in countries like Saudi Arabia, the center of the Islamic world, it becomes clear that the notion that it is an Islamic practice is a false one," Haseena Lockhat, a child clinical psychologist at North Warwickshire Primary Care Trust, wrote.[2]

True, FGM occurs in non-Muslim societies in Africa. And in Arab states such as Egypt, where perhaps 97 percent of girls suffer genital mutilation,[3] both Christian Copts and Muslims are complicit.

[link to www.meforum.org]

------------------------

Sop you can see that this problem is not an Islamic one alone, but where are the Christian voices calling out for this practice to end in their own communities.

No, like normal they take the hypocritical stance and choose to blame Islam itself, which has no part to play in the practice.

More links to come of Muslims condemning this action, so never let yourself be told it is "normal" for Muslims, or part of the religion.

IT ISN'T.
Mujahid

User ID: 951164
Germany
04/23/2010 10:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
bump
Thomas Dolby

User ID: 37525
Canada
04/23/2010 10:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Not religious, not cultural....

Just savage..!

"So put your hands down my pants and I'll bet you'll feel nuts
Yes I'm Siskel, yes I'm Ebert and you're getting two thumbs up"


"So live each and every day that you may look any man in the face and tell him to go to hell...! Edgar Cayce, reading 1739-6
Anonymous Coward
04/23/2010 10:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Fuck Islam.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 950435
Canada
04/23/2010 10:06 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Fuck Islam.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


Behave yourself, moderator.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 951449
United States
04/23/2010 10:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
female castration might be more accurate
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 947863
United States
04/23/2010 10:10 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Fuck Islam.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012

What he said!
Sallam  (OP)

User ID: 941980
Canada
04/23/2010 10:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Fuck Islam.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012



Certainly you would also say - FUCK CHRISTIANITY - because in Africa and Egypt where this is a CULTURAL paractice, NOT a religious one, Christian sects also do this practice.

I would like to know where are the moderate Christians speaking out against this barbaric practice???

Certainly the Islamic organizations are doing thier best to weed it out, I wonder when the moderate Christians will also step up and give a hand?
Mujahid

User ID: 951164
Germany
04/23/2010 10:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Fuck Islam.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


why so serious? 1dunno1
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 871629
Portugal
04/23/2010 10:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
There is nothing in Islam that condones this practice or prohibits it, you will find nothing in the scxriptures that say much about it at all.

It is an Egyptian and African cultural thing that due to it's dangers is being spoken out against by many Islamic groups.

There is an effort by Islamic groups to weed out this practice by educating these people that it is dangerous and not an Islamic practice.

Many fatwas have been issued condemning this practice, however it persists as a cultural icon having nothing at all to do with Islam.


----------------------

DAKAR (AlertNet) - Human rights campaigners who have been struggling for years to eliminate female genital mutilation (FGM) in West Africa got a boost this week as news emerged that a group of Muslim clerics and scholars in Mauritania had declared a fatwa, or religious decree, against the practice.

[link to www.alertnet.org]

---------------------

The problem is not one that affects Islam alone unfortunately, as in Egypt this practice is also prevelent among Christian Copt sects...

But you will never hear of this from a Christian.

Instead of fighting against this practice in the developing world they choose to sweep it under the rug.

---------------------

Many Muslims and academics in the West take pains to insist that the practice is not rooted in religion[1] but rather in culture.

"When one considers that the practice does not prevail and is much condemned in countries like Saudi Arabia, the center of the Islamic world, it becomes clear that the notion that it is an Islamic practice is a false one," Haseena Lockhat, a child clinical psychologist at North Warwickshire Primary Care Trust, wrote.[2]

True, FGM occurs in non-Muslim societies in Africa. And in Arab states such as Egypt, where perhaps 97 percent of girls suffer genital mutilation,[3] both Christian Copts and Muslims are complicit.

[link to www.meforum.org]

------------------------

Sop you can see that this problem is not an Islamic one alone, but where are the Christian voices calling out for this practice to end in their own communities.

No, like normal they take the hypocritical stance and choose to blame Islam itself, which has no part to play in the practice.

More links to come of Muslims condemning this action, so never let yourself be told it is "normal" for Muslims, or part of the religion.

IT ISN'T.
 Quoting: Sallam


You two again...worse than flys on shit.

Dont you get it? LEAVE US ALONE! roll up your carpets and take your quran and get the fuck out of our faces...we dont want muslim here do you understand this?

We dont want to hear about allahs and submission and anything else to do with muslim....please just go back to where you belong you muslim are not welcome here.
ANNONYMOUS
User ID: 825313
United States
04/23/2010 10:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
5a

Yep, and that culture mainly espoused by Islam right!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 908950
United States
04/23/2010 10:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
FUCK ISLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D. Bunker

04/23/2010 10:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
You two again...worse than flys on shit.

Dont you get it? LEAVE US ALONE! roll up your carpets and take your quran and get the fuck out of our faces...we dont want muslim here do you understand this?

We dont want to hear about allahs and submission and anything else to do with muslim....please just go back to where you belong you muslim are not welcome here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 871629


Reasonable discussion is welcome at GLP. Muslims are as welcome as any other belief system.
:savetata:


Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 908950
United States
04/23/2010 10:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
There is nothing in Islam that condones this practice or prohibits it, you will find nothing in the scxriptures that say much about it at all.

It is an Egyptian and African cultural thing that due to it's dangers is being spoken out against by many Islamic groups.

There is an effort by Islamic groups to weed out this practice by educating these people that it is dangerous and not an Islamic practice.

Many fatwas have been issued condemning this practice, however it persists as a cultural icon having nothing at all to do with Islam.


----------------------

DAKAR (AlertNet) - Human rights campaigners who have been struggling for years to eliminate female genital mutilation (FGM) in West Africa got a boost this week as news emerged that a group of Muslim clerics and scholars in Mauritania had declared a fatwa, or religious decree, against the practice.

[link to www.alertnet.org]

---------------------

The problem is not one that affects Islam alone unfortunately, as in Egypt this practice is also prevelent among Christian Copt sects...

But you will never hear of this from a Christian.

Instead of fighting against this practice in the developing world they choose to sweep it under the rug.

---------------------

Many Muslims and academics in the West take pains to insist that the practice is not rooted in religion[1] but rather in culture.

"When one considers that the practice does not prevail and is much condemned in countries like Saudi Arabia, the center of the Islamic world, it becomes clear that the notion that it is an Islamic practice is a false one," Haseena Lockhat, a child clinical psychologist at North Warwickshire Primary Care Trust, wrote.[2]

True, FGM occurs in non-Muslim societies in Africa. And in Arab states such as Egypt, where perhaps 97 percent of girls suffer genital mutilation,[3] both Christian Copts and Muslims are complicit.

[link to www.meforum.org]

------------------------

Sop you can see that this problem is not an Islamic one alone, but where are the Christian voices calling out for this practice to end in their own communities.

No, like normal they take the hypocritical stance and choose to blame Islam itself, which has no part to play in the practice.

More links to come of Muslims condemning this action, so never let yourself be told it is "normal" for Muslims, or part of the religion.

IT ISN'T.


You two again...worse than flys on shit.

Dont you get it? LEAVE US ALONE! roll up your carpets and take your quran and get the fuck out of our faces...we dont want muslim here do you understand this?

We dont want to hear about allahs and submission and anything else to do with muslim....please just go back to where you belong you muslim are not welcome here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 871629

This is what they do man. They go to websites trying to convert people without saying convert to islam. They say how great it is, then you attend one of there prayers and that's where where the brainwashing begins.
...
User ID: 871629
Portugal
04/23/2010 10:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
All day long its muslim this or muslim that...allahs submission blah blah blah...we are innocent we are perfect no one can dispute us our will is the will of the allahs blah blah blah...its just fucking relentless how tortured it must be to so enslaved,unfucking real...

Dont you 2 have some errands to run for your sleeper cells or something?...go print out some flyers calling for jihad against us,you must have more to do than this...

yawn
Sallam  (OP)

User ID: 941980
Canada
04/23/2010 10:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
female castration might be more accurate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 951449



Certainly would!

It's a hold over from African tribal ways of living that spread with the Africans into Egypt...absolutely barbaric.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 908950
United States
04/23/2010 10:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Fuck Islam.



Certainly you would also say - FUCK CHRISTIANITY - because in Africa and Egypt where this is a CULTURAL paractice, NOT a religious one, Christian sects also do this practice.

I would like to know where are the moderate Christians speaking out against this barbaric practice???

Certainly the Islamic organizations are doing thier best to weed it out, I wonder when the moderate Christians will also step up and give a hand?
 Quoting: Sallam

FUCK ISLAM!!!!!!
Sallam  (OP)

User ID: 941980
Canada
04/23/2010 10:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
This is what they do man. They go to websites trying to convert people without saying convert to islam. They say how great it is, then you attend one of there prayers and that's where where the brainwashing begins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 908950


Please, DO NOT convert to Islam.

You don't "convert" people, they have to accept the message, people choose it for themselves, you have to feel it is true in your heart, no one can force you to accept something which you feel is not true.

I am not trying to "convert" anyone.

I simply wish to inform and educate. There is a propaganda war against Muslims right now, in the media and even on this very site...

I would advise everyone against going to meetings or anything like this, if someone wishes to come to Islam it is as simple as picking up the computer and Googling the Quran.

One can never set foot in a meeting or a Mousque, and be a Muslim, just as one can never be a Muslim at all and still be a good upstanding person.

I believe we are all judged by God alone at one point and time, and regardless of religion, God will do what God will do, perhaps he will spare who he wills and punish who he wills.

I am just posting information, do with it what you will.
Fatima
User ID: 950691
United States
04/23/2010 10:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
So thats why my daddy had my clitoris cut off.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 946455
United States
04/23/2010 10:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
I believe we are all judged by God alone at one point and time... perhaps he will spare who he wills and punish who he wills.


 Quoting: Sallam


Your belief is wrong, or you misunderstand 'the book'.

You do believe in 'the book', don't you?

God does not judge anyone whilst they are still alive.

He is saving his judgement for that great day.

If you truly believe in Abraham, you would know this.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 898092
United States
04/23/2010 11:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
I am just posting information, do with it what you will.

so you are a fan of aleister crowley now??

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Andromeda

User ID: 946938
United States
04/23/2010 11:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Given that you guys have putting out stories about Islam that (1) are false descriptions of the religion & practices and (2) make it look more humanitarian than it is...

Is there any reason why we should believe this new story?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 926707
United States
04/23/2010 11:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Any belief system, or culture or so-called religion that advocates female circumcision should have the males castrated and turned into eunuchs first. Then maybe the practice of female mutilations would stop if one man had to go through it.

No matter what anyone says, it's a barbaric practice and it must be stopped at all costs.

Sallam, you and your friends,(if you are truly sincere about this), then start telling your friends who are indeed Muslim not to even consider such atrocities or doing it to even their enemies. It's barbaric.
Women are entitled to having sexual satisfaction the same as men. That is why they have clitorises in the first place. it's for their pleasure. It's not always about the man's pleasure, it's about her, too.
BROKEN

User ID: 893303
United States
04/23/2010 11:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
I can not believe any body or any FUCKIN religion would do this shit to females.!!!!! Fucking sick to my stomach.
"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face
with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
J. Edgar Hoover

"Those who make Peaceful Revolution Impossible...Will make Violent Revolution Inevitable"
-JFK

:minimoran:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784308
Australia
04/23/2010 11:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
one thing that has struck me is how adept many muslims are at arguing the toss, on pretty much any and every subject.

So just imagine the arguments the endless back and forth on the day of reckoning.

agumball bash agumball bash agumball bash agumball agumball agumball agumballbash blahblah

"And we did, this every 5 seconds worship!!!!"

blink scratching yawn scratching 1dunno1 stars sigh

"What do you mean, this is all we get!!!!!"


girl_bored_black girl_bored_red girl_bored_brown damned2
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822427
Canada
04/23/2010 11:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Isn't it Salaam?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 898092
United States
04/23/2010 11:23 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
cause cunninglingus is so much more fun with a chopped off clit

damn

you people take the fun out of everything..

including god.

who would want 72 virgins in heaven..

that sounds like a mormon nightmare.
D. Bunker

04/23/2010 11:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Isn't it Salaam?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822427


watchingu

You just won another piece of the cookie.
:savetata:


Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009
Andromeda

User ID: 946938
United States
04/23/2010 11:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
Why are these two running around GLP planting misinformation about what is in Islam?

Female genital mutilation is definitely in Islam:

A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina [Madîna]. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: 'Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.'–Sunan Abu Dawûd, Book 41, #5251.


So, OP, it's okay according to the Prophet, just try not to cut TOO deep.

Last Edited by Andromeda on 04/23/2010 11:25 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 885254
Canada
04/23/2010 11:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
If it demands worship, it is NOT divine hf
GadflyMD

User ID: 951498
United States
04/23/2010 11:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMSISION IS NOT ISLAMIC, IT IS CULTURAL.
It is also a dumb idea because it doesn't remove the Graffenberg Spot which is in the vagina.
When the people lose dominion over life and liberty, comes a cry for revolution, comes a clamor to be free...





GLP