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Should Congress and Obama create a Tier V EUC? (Emegency Unemployment Compensation)

 
Anonymous Coward
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I voted no because I knew friends / relatives that were on unemployment and weren't too interested in taking any job as long as they were getting money from the government. At some point we have to make it a little painful on these people to motivate them to get out and take some form of work even if they're making less than what they're worth! I agree with unemployment as a safety net but this can't go on forever as it seems right now. Not to worry though, this is mid year elections so I'm sure the Dems will extend benefits so how.
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Let me put it this way, one interview in a two year time frame, and I'm still unemployed and now no unemployment. What would you do?
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Well, just dont rob anyone. Get all the handouts you possiby can. ITS OK when times are rough to seek help.

What i dont condone is people receiving financial help and trading that for DRUGS. It is done and it makes me furious.

Good luck. hf
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04/24/2010 03:28 PM
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OP and anyone else still confused:

EMPLOYEES DO NOT PAY ANYTHING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT!!

That money paid into the State and Federal unemployment insurance fund comes only from the employer. Each employer is taxed a computed rate (based on their previous unemployment experience)that is a percentage of their total wages paid to their employees. The more money employees are paid, the more money only employers pay into the unemployment fund. Again, the employee has nothing deducted out of their paycheck for unemployment insurance.

I am a payroll administrator for multiple states and Canada. The above is the biggest misunderstanding about unemployment.
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In Washington state I have deductions I have to declare to the IRS. :/
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OP and anyone else still confused:

EMPLOYEES DO NOT PAY ANYTHING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT!!

That money paid into the State and Federal unemployment insurance fund comes only from the employer. Each employer is taxed a computed rate (based on their previous unemployment experience)that is a percentage of their total wages paid to their employees. The more money employees are paid, the more money only employers pay into the unemployment fund. Again, the employee has nothing deducted out of their paycheck for unemployment insurance.

I am a payroll administrator for multiple states and Canada. The above is the biggest misunderstanding about unemployment.


In Washington state I have deductions I have to declare to the IRS. :/
 Quoting: HTCWiz



I pay WA residents every week and I can 100% guarantee you that there is NO UNEMPLOYMENT deducted out of their paychecks. Yes to Fed Income Tax, Medicare and Social Security Tax (FICA), Workers Compensation Insurance, but NO unemployment tax out of employee W-2 wages.
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Money is confounding man's existence.
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04/24/2010 04:12 PM
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OP and anyone else still confused:

EMPLOYEES DO NOT PAY ANYTHING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT!!

That money paid into the State and Federal unemployment insurance fund comes only from the employer. Each employer is taxed a computed rate (based on their previous unemployment experience)that is a percentage of their total wages paid to their employees. The more money employees are paid, the more money only employers pay into the unemployment fund. Again, the employee has nothing deducted out of their paycheck for unemployment insurance.

I am a payroll administrator for multiple states and Canada. The above is the biggest misunderstanding about unemployment.


In Washington state I have deductions I have to declare to the IRS. :/



I pay WA residents every week and I can 100% guarantee you that there is NO UNEMPLOYMENT deducted out of their paychecks. Yes to Fed Income Tax, Medicare and Social Security Tax (FICA), Workers Compensation Insurance, but NO unemployment tax out of employee W-2 wages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801783


I have been an employer in the past also. Even though I paid for the state and federal unemployment taxes I considered it as part of the expense to have an employee.

If I didn't have to pay it to the governments I probably would have given the amount saved to employee as salary in order to keep good employees.

It doesn't matter who pays, employee or employer, because it is paid for the employee.
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In Washington state I have deductions I have to declare to the IRS. :/

I pay WA residents every week and I can 100% guarantee you that there is NO UNEMPLOYMENT deducted out of their paychecks. Yes to Fed Income Tax, Medicare and Social Security Tax (FICA), Workers Compensation Insurance, but NO unemployment tax out of employee W-2 wages.
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I believe you. I've worked for a number of very large companies here. However, for some smaller startups I've had them deduct unemployment and I had to declare it on 3 occasions with those employers. So what gives? Are small companies allowed to do that because that is exactly what they were, start ups but had been around awhile.
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04/24/2010 04:28 PM
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Start thinking if money is printed and we buy things everyday as a hole some take trains othes pay for gas
more.Now on the big picture when it all goes around
were does it all end up.Some of that could come back
but someone is keeping it and not letting it go.Then
they get more of it.To fix things we need more jobs
to be dished out and some should save cash in safes
instead of in banks they take money now too,so the
best aproach for the individual is the smartest.

Dont be to quick to waste your kash if you can save
75% each weak,some may say we suffer becouse the rich
in some way put a wall that you cant tauch just like
that,a system built for you to fail.Look within to win.
marsala
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04/24/2010 04:39 PM
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At the end of the day we live life but takeing better aproaches is best.Lets remove doubt at least in the most
part and say that we can make things better for ourselfs.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2010 04:43 PM
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I voted NO only because there was not a "HELL NO" option.

You seem to think that the government generates income. Where do you think the money comes from?

How long do we create more new tiers? Why not make unemployment benefts indefinite? At what point do we cut it off?

You can't seriously tell me there are no jobs to be found. The problem is that unemployment benefts pay more than a lot of jobs pay. So people like yourself would rather stay on the system than work.

If you are working, even flipping burgers, you are in front of employed people. If you display good work ethic people notice. It's called networking and you can't do it sitting on your sofa.

The only way to generate more money for unemployment is to raise taxes on working people. Raise their taxes and more people will lose their jobs and have to file for unemployment, demanding even more money. We have to break the cycle.

Quit posting on the internet and GO GET A JOB!

clappa
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OP and anyone else still confused:

EMPLOYEES DO NOT PAY ANYTHING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT!!

That money paid into the State and Federal unemployment insurance fund comes only from the employer. Each employer is taxed a computed rate (based on their previous unemployment experience)that is a percentage of their total wages paid to their employees. The more money employees are paid, the more money only employers pay into the unemployment fund. Again, the employee has nothing deducted out of their paycheck for unemployment insurance.

I am a payroll administrator for multiple states and Canada. The above is the biggest misunderstanding about unemployment.


In Washington state I have deductions I have to declare to the IRS. :/



I pay WA residents every week and I can 100% guarantee you that there is NO UNEMPLOYMENT deducted out of their paychecks. Yes to Fed Income Tax, Medicare and Social Security Tax (FICA), Workers Compensation Insurance, but NO unemployment tax out of employee W-2 wages.
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04/24/2010 04:49 PM
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Not only should the criminals that run (into the ground) this nation pay the unemployed whom they created, they should do so GENEROUSLY and for as long as necessary as some kind of minor partial reparation for their complicity in DESTROYING this nation, and the industrial underpinnings of its economy via years of concerted effort to ship OUR jobs overseas and by doing literally ANYTHING else they could dream up that would RAPE the US worker while directly benefiting every greedy Corporate Prince in need of a bonus.

It's the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM they could do... But frankly SUICIDE would also be a nice gesture.
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04/24/2010 04:59 PM
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A lot of the jobs that were lost were supported by the housing, finance and consumer spending bubble.

That bubble has burst and those jobs are not going to come back.

But people sit around on unemployment, refusing to retrain or start over in a new career.

In the 2-plus years these people have been on unemployment they could have gotten retrained (at government expense) in a totally new trade or they could have a 2-year college degree.

We can't afford the 10-billion-plus per month that the unemployment checks are costing us. That will break our budget faster than anything else if we don't stop it soon.

We've already paid unemployment too long and are bankrupting the country.
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04/24/2010 05:31 PM
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It's irrellevant when the laws were made. If the Constitution does not specifically authorize it, then it shouldn't be part of the fed gov law. That goes for about 99% of the laws the gov pass (no research on that number, but stated for dramatic effect.) tounge

I think we need to change the whole entire system. Letting it crash would not be a pretty sight, but it may be the best chance to fix things.
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Have you ever watched a grown man of your race and ethnicity starve to death? That's what could happen if Tier V isn't voted in.
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04/24/2010 05:58 PM
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OP and anyone else still confused:

EMPLOYEES DO NOT PAY ANYTHING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT!!

That money paid into the State and Federal unemployment insurance fund comes only from the employer. Each employer is taxed a computed rate (based on their previous unemployment experience)that is a percentage of their total wages paid to their employees. The more money employees are paid, the more money only employers pay into the unemployment fund. Again, the employee has nothing deducted out of their paycheck for unemployment insurance.

I am a payroll administrator for multiple states and Canada. The above is the biggest misunderstanding about unemployment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801783


Well I can 100% guarantee to you that in NEW JERSEY all employees DO PAY for unemployment insurance, as well as the employers.

You should have named the states you work for, because you look like an idiot with your broad generalization that no employees pay for unemployment insurance when i am looking right at my pay stub and its right there.
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04/24/2010 06:01 PM
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Absolutely!

Unemployment Tier V should be extended until job creation reaches 6% at U6.

I srongly advise the president to extend this program.
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04/24/2010 06:05 PM
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Yes... because I'd rather see the people get it and boost the econemy with purchases than handing it to the bankers. Now days they are just printing up money as needed with no accountability or tracking, so dont wory about taxes or the natioal debt, thats beyond the point of no return.
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I love the "karma" responses from the retarded Aussie. If someone loses their job, it's because they did something wrong? If you're poor, it's because God's trying to teach you a lesson?

So a wealthy drug dealer must be in God's favor, then? He has good karma? Or the serial killer who never gets caught - he must have good karma! LOL.

Pure retardation.
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04/24/2010 06:56 PM
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Here is a suggestion for the young blood suckers living and leaching off their parents. They all should be forced into the military, anyone of them that does not have a job or thinks, they can bumb off someone else. Right now any single male or female that isn't working should be drafted.
Its no fun living with someone elses 28 year old bumb adult child that acts like he needs his mommy to change his diaper, and can't grow up.
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04/24/2010 06:57 PM
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Natasha77, don't worry, I'm not that type of person that would rob people. hf
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I know people who are on extended unemployment. It seems as though they are waiting for this recession to end as reported by our media. The media gives these people false hope with their bullshit Washington stats.
We all know that it is a depression and will last for many years. These unemployed need to learn to fend for themselves instead of being propped up by wishful thinking.
Yes , lets give them extended unemployment a while longer but with that you must tell them the truth. There will be no recovery for years- start finding a new way to survive even if it's holding a sign that says ," Will WORK for food!"
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04/24/2010 07:41 PM
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Once again for your collective edification...

The United States Corporate Motto...

Give a man a fish, he eats for a day, TEACH a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime... but if you cut overhead by starving that man and his family to death, then you can sell the fish and give the CEO a big bonus!
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04/24/2010 07:54 PM
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I'm one of these unemployment... going to nursing school fulltime. once done, I'll be EMPLOYED.. but I need to pay the bills till then... just 8 more months till graduation!
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2010 07:59 PM
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Nearly two years on unemployment should be sufficient to figure out what you're going to do.
It's not the taxpayers responsibility to find someone a job.
If there is no work were your at, MOVE.
Most of these people are what we used call "townies" up in New England.
They just don't want to move from "home".
Well, then starve.
HTCWiz  (OP)

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I'm one of these unemployment... going to nursing school fulltime. once done, I'll be EMPLOYED.. but I need to pay the bills till then... just 8 more months till graduation!
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GOOD LUCK! I mean that, really.
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AND SO IT BEGINS!!!
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OP and anyone else still confused:

EMPLOYEES DO NOT PAY ANYTHING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT!!

That money paid into the State and Federal unemployment insurance fund comes only from the employer. Each employer is taxed a computed rate (based on their previous unemployment experience)that is a percentage of their total wages paid to their employees. The more money employees are paid, the more money only employers pay into the unemployment fund. Again, the employee has nothing deducted out of their paycheck for unemployment insurance.

I am a payroll administrator for multiple states and Canada. The above is the biggest misunderstanding about unemployment.
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no it does not come directly out of you check but it is figured in to your pay scale
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Here is a suggestion for the young blood suckers living and leaching off their parents. They all should be forced into the military, anyone of them that does not have a job or thinks, they can bumb off someone else. Right now any single male or female that isn't working should be drafted.
Its no fun living with someone elses 28 year old bumb adult child that acts like he needs his mommy to change his diaper, and can't grow up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 832392

Ain't that the truth.
The whole country is filled with these lazy bums.
When did being a "slacker" become cool?
These kids need to be insulted and finally given the kick in the ass that they didn't get when mommy put them in "time out".
If you know a slacker you should insult them daily, and relentlessly.
They deserve it.
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OP and anyone else still confused:

EMPLOYEES DO NOT PAY ANYTHING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT!!

That money paid into the State and Federal unemployment insurance fund comes only from the employer. Each employer is taxed a computed rate (based on their previous unemployment experience)that is a percentage of their total wages paid to their employees. The more money employees are paid, the more money only employers pay into the unemployment fund. Again, the employee has nothing deducted out of their paycheck for unemployment insurance.

I am a payroll administrator for multiple states and Canada. The above is the biggest misunderstanding about unemployment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801783


You both right and wrong.
Companies with a lower unemployment burden are able to pay more to their emlpoyees. And Vice versa.
So as usual the guy on the bottom will be screwed coming and going.

I was responsible for all HR duties for a small to medium sized company. We actually had to lower starting pay for employees to offset our higher unemployment burden.
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Here is a suggestion for the young blood suckers living and leaching off their parents. They all should be forced into the military, anyone of them that does not have a job or thinks, they can bumb off someone else. Right now any single male or female that isn't working should be drafted.
Its no fun living with someone elses 28 year old bumb adult child that acts like he needs his mommy to change his diaper, and can't grow up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 832392

Anyone who saw the President on the MSM news the other day talking about the Arizona immigration law, and his "concern", should have seen a swearng in ceremony in the background for green carders who have served the Country voluntarily, and earned citizenship, now there is some honorable new Americans.

The little fat white mama's boys you are talking about can just keep on eatin' out of mommy and daddys fridge, the military don't need them, just the way it is now a days.

The townie thing another mentioned above is the same thing I see where I am now. They have to move on, the jobs are not coming back for years, if ever, with the way taxes are going.





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