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Im here in the south east of England. I have noticed today a thick grey sky, where as last week it has been true blue. When ever there seems to be a blue patch appearing, I look at it and i can see a plane leaving a trail to cover it up.

I know many dont believe in chemtrails and even if im wrong about them, I know what i see. There is in no doubt that here in the UK we have a grey sky because of what the planes are doing, be it contrails or chemtrails.
The trail they leave is so obviously spreading out, not going and covering the sky. This is fact!!!!

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Here too in Cairo , last two days extensive spraying !
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Today i saw plane formations spraying !
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Inventor(s):
Werle; Donald K. , Hillside, IL
Kasparas; Romas , Riverside, IL
Katz; Sidney , Chicago, IL
Applicant(s):
The United States of America as represented by the Secretary of the Navy, Washington,
Issued/Filed Dates: Aug. 12, 1975 / July 22, 1974
Application Number: US1974000490610
IPC Class: B64D 1/16;
Class: Current: 244/136; 040/213; 116/214; 241/005;
Original: 244/136; 040/213; 116/114.F; 241/005;
Field of Search: 244/136 040/213 241/5,29 222/3;4 239/171 116/28 R,114
R,114 F,114 N,124 R,124 B,124 C
Legal Status: Gazette date Code Description (remarks) List all possible codes for US
Aug. 12, 1975 A Patent
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July 22, 1974 AE Application data
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Abstract

Light scattering pigment powder particles, surface treated to minimize inparticle cohesive forces, are dispensed from a jet mill deagglomerator as separate single particles to produce a powder contrail having maximum visibility or radiation scattering ability for a given weight material.
Attorney, Agent, or Firm: Sciascia; Richard S.; St. Amand; Joseph M.; Primary/Assistant Examiners: Blix; Trygve M.; Kelmachter; Barry L.

U.S. References: Show the 1 patent that references this one
Patent Issued Inventor(s)
Title
US1619183* 3 /1927 Bradner et al.
US2045865* 6 /1936 Morey
US2591988* 4 /1952 Willcox
US3531310 9 /1970 Goodspeed et al. PRODUCTION OF IMPROVED METAL
OXIDE PIGMENT
USR0015771* 2 /1924 Savage
* some details unavailable

CLAIMS:
1. Contrail generation apparatus for producing a powder contrail having
maximum radiation
scattering ability for a given weight material, comprising:

a. an aerodynamic housing;
b. a jet tube means passing through said housing, said tube means having an inlet at a forward end of said housing and an exhaust at a rearward end thereof;
c. a powder storage means in said housing;
d. a deagglomeration means also in said housing;
e. means connecting said powder storage means with said deagglomeration
means for feeding
radiation scattering powder from said powder storage means to said deagglomeration means;
f. the output of said deagglomeration means dispensing directly into said jet tube means for
exhausting deagglomerated powder particles into the atmosphere to form a contrail; and
h. means for controlling the flow of said powder from said storage means to said deagglomeration means.

2. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein said jet tube means is a ram air jet tube.
3. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein an upstream deflector baffle is provided at the output of said
deagglomeration means into said jet tube means to produce a venturi effect for minimizing back
pressure on said powder feeding means.
4. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein said deagglomerator means comprises:

a. means for subjecting powder particles from said powder storage means to a hammering action to aerate and precondition the powder; and
b. a jet mill means to further deagglomerate the powder into separate particles.

5. Apparatus as in claim 4 wherein pressurized gas means is provided for operating said
deagglomeration means.
6. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein said radiation scattering powder
particles are titanium
dioxide pigment having a median particle size of about 0.3 microns.
7. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein said radiation scattering powder
particles have a coating of extremely fine hydrophobic colloidal silica thereon to minimize interparticle cohesive forces.
8. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein the formulation of said powder consists of 85% by weight of
TiO2 pigment of approximately 0.3 micron media particle size, 10% by weight of colloidal silica of
0.007 micron primary particle size, and 5% by weight of silica gel having an average particle size of 4.5 microns.
9. The method of producing a light radiation scattering contrail, comprising:

a. surface treating light scattering powder particles to minimize
interparticle cohesive forces;
b. deagglomerating said powder particles in two stages prior to dispensing into a jet tube
by subjecting said powder particles to a hammering action in the first stage to aerate and
precondition the powder, and by passing said powder through a jet mill in the second stage
to further deagglomerate the powder;
c. dispensing the deagglomerated powder from the jet mill directly into a jet tube for
exhausting said powder into the atmosphere, thus forming a contrail.

10. A method as in claim 9 wherein said light scattering powder particles is titanium dioxide pigment.
11. A method as in claim 9 wherein said powder particles are treated with a coating of extremely
fine hydrophobic colloidal silica to minimize interparticle cohesive forces.
12. A method as in claim 11 wherein said treated powder particles are further protected with a silica gel powder.

Background/Summary:

BACKGROUND

The present invention relates to method and apparatus for contrail generation and the like. An earlier known method in use for contrail generation involves oil smoke trails produced by injecting liquid oil directly into the hot jet exhaust of an aircraft target vehicle. The oil vaporizes and recondenses being the aircraft producing a brilliant white trail. Oil smoke trail production requires a minimum of equipment; and, the material is low in cost and readily available. However, oil smoke requires a heat source to vaporize the liquid oil and not all aircraft target vehicles, notably towed targets, have such a heat source. Also, at altitudes above about 25,000 feet oil smoke visibility degrades rapidly.

SUMMARY

The present invention is for a powder generator requiring no heat source to emit a "contrail" with sufficient visibility to aid in visual acquisition of an aircraft target vehicle and the like. The term "contrail" was adopted for convenience in identifying the visible powder trail of this invention. Aircraft target vehicles are used to simulate aerial threats for missile tests and often fly at altitudes between 5,000 and 20,000 feet at speeds of 300 and 400 knots or more. The present invention is also suitable for use in other aircraft vehicles to generate contrails or reflective screens for any desired purpose. The powder contail generator is normally carried on an aircraft in a pod containing a ram air tube and powder feed hopper. Powder particles, surface treated to minimize interparticle cohesive forces are fed from the hopper to a deagglomerator and then to the ram air tube for dispensing as separate single particles to produce a contrail having maximum visibility for a given weight material. Other object, advantages and novel features of the invention will become apparent from the following detailed description of the invention when considered in conjunction with the accompanying drawing.
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Alot more info, flight paths and programs here..

[link to mas.arc.nasa.gov]

Summary Information
Date: April 16, 1996
ER-2 Flight Number: 96-104
Location: Oklahoma CART Site, Kansas
Principle Investigator: Dr. Brian Toon (NASA Ames)
Additional Sensors: B&W_6"_RC-10, MIR, CLS, RAMS, HIS

Level-1B Processing Information
Level-1B Data Version: #10
Calibration Type: Final
Calibration Version: SUCCESS_Ames 1.0
Temperature Adjustment: No
Status: Final Calibration Done

Flight Track Map

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Straight Line Flight Tracks: 17
Scanlines Processed: 93756

Level-1B HDF Data Distribution Point
NASA GSFC Earth Sciences (GES) Data Center
NASA DAAC's

Additional Information
The objective of this mission was to observe T-39 and DC-8 generated persistent contrails of various age; characterize contrail/cirrus advection over CART site by combined ground-based uplooking and ER-2 based downlooking; characterize ambient radiometric conditions of atmosphere by flying upwind of T-39/DC-8 contrail generation region.

ER-2 launch at 1700 UTC; ER-2 recovery at 2335 UTC. ER-2 flew 12 legs of an east-west oriented line (headings 90 and 270 degrees true north; 130 nm length) with ARM CART site (36 36.3'N 97 29.1'W) positioned 50 nm from western end of nadir flight line. Final 2 legs extended to 180nm for additional downwind coverage of old contrails. Total of 12 overpasses of ARM CART site. T-39 flying 10 nm diameter circles positioned 10, 20, and 30 nm upwind (west) of ARM CART site. DC-8 flying north-south oriented legs centered at 0, 10, 20, and 30 nm downwind of ARM CART site and then flying racetrack (oriented about 15 degrees off ER-2 heading). No time-dependent positioning coordination between ER-2 and DC-8 or T-39.

Cirrus in westerly flow aloft of varying thickness over ARM CART site and all along ER-2 flight line. T-39 contrails were not persistent. DC-8 contrails more persistent than T-39. ER-2 pilot had 2 visual observations of DC-8 contrail (1802 and 2009:30 UTC).

The pilot reported cirrus of varying thickness. DC-8 with contrail apparent in MAS data at 1802 and 2009 UTC. ARM CART site uplooking lidar operating during mission. Twelve overpasses of ARM CART site (approximately 1758, 1828, 1849, 1918, 1939, 2009, 2030, 2100, 2121, 2150, 2211, and 2154 UTC). DC-8 contrail short-lived at 1802 UTC. No visual of T-39 aircraft or contrails.
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I have noticed the haze too
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Have read through the patent and didnt really get any info from it. I understand it backs up the chemtrail "theory" but i guess time for us to know why is not yet, If ever.
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Have read through the patent and didnt really get any info from it. I understand it backs up the chemtrail "theory" but i guess time for us to know why is not yet, If ever.
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It describes what we are seeing..

And the next post is a NASA experiment in persistent contrails...

And there are tests, flight paths, results and other programs on the link I left in the 2nd post..
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I have noticed the haze too
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Funny thing is, when planes were able to fly again, I was on my way to work and the radio was on. I think radio 1.
The dj said that he had noticed while the planes werent flying that the sky was much more blue and he was implying it was the planes. Then the other presenter said "so do you think its cause of the planes not flying that the skys are blue?" To which the dj made a mockery of it as if it was stupid and in no way could be.
This made me think that certain people knew that more people would notice the blue skys and put 2+2 together.
I feel this dj chat bit was a direct attempt to squash any thoughts along them lines that people may have been having.

I knew that the skys would return to "normal" once flying got back in force and my theory is confirmed.
Like i said I could be wrong but its just too many coincidences.
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I have noticed the haze too


Funny thing is, when planes were able to fly again, I was on my way to work and the radio was on. I think radio 1.
The dj said that he had noticed while the planes werent flying that the sky was much more blue and he was implying it was the planes. Then the other presenter said "so do you think its cause of the planes not flying that the skys are blue?" To which the dj made a mockery of it as if it was stupid and in no way could be.
This made me think that certain people knew that more people would notice the blue skys and put 2+2 together.
I feel this dj chat bit was a direct attempt to squash any thoughts along them lines that people may have been having.

I knew that the skys would return to "normal" once flying got back in force and my theory is confirmed.
Like i said I could be wrong but its just too many coincidences.
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Alot of people noticed this! I have some pics..gimme 5mins
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Have read through the patent and didnt really get any info from it. I understand it backs up the chemtrail "theory" but i guess time for us to know why is not yet, If ever.


It describes what we are seeing..

And the next post is a NASA experiment in persistent contrails...

And there are tests, flight paths, results and other programs on the link I left in the 2nd post..
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Yes i gathered that. Thanks for info. Guess i was kinda hoping for the answers that arent available to us yet. Like why?
Maybe weve heard why but there are many theorys.

I in my heart know that they are not just plane exhaust (if you like) contrails. Any body that even looks up and thinks just a little bit must know it too.
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Have read through the patent and didnt really get any info from it. I understand it backs up the chemtrail "theory" but i guess time for us to know why is not yet, If ever.
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Wait I just reread your response...

What do you mean you didnt get any info from it..

It explains in great detail what it is...

How do you get no info from it?

It is a specific patent for Powder Chemtrail Generation from the United States Navy..And shows the aircraft parts that were invented to spray the powder...
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When i heard about the planes being grounded i expected the skys to change loads. I thought about taking pictures daily during the no fly and then then for a week after, just to confirm what i knew i was seeing. Sadly i didnt
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Have read through the patent and didnt really get any info from it. I understand it backs up the chemtrail "theory" but i guess time for us to know why is not yet, If ever.


It describes what we are seeing..

And the next post is a NASA experiment in persistent contrails...

And there are tests, flight paths, results and other programs on the link I left in the 2nd post..



Yes i gathered that. Thanks for info. Guess i was kinda hoping for the answers that arent available to us yet. Like why?
Maybe weve heard why but there are many theorys.

I in my heart know that they are not just plane exhaust (if you like) contrails. Any body that even looks up and thinks just a little bit must know it too.
 Quoting: Rickster


There are numerous official documents about the why..

Owning The Weather: [link to csat.au.af.mil]

Geo-Engineering: [link to www.nasa.gov]
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Im here in the south east of England. I have noticed today a thick grey sky, where as last week it has been true blue. When ever there seems to be a blue patch appearing, I look at it and i can see a plane leaving a trail to cover it up.

I know many dont believe in chemtrails and even if im wrong about them, I know what i see. There is in no doubt that here in the UK we have a grey sky because of what the planes are doing, be it contrails or chemtrails.
The trail they leave is so obviously spreading out, not going and covering the sky. This is fact!!!!
 Quoting: Rickster


North West England, here.

The entire sky is that usual murky, milky no-colour, even though it's a very mild and sunny day.

A few days back, when the no-fly order was in place, almost the whole sky was bright blue.

pennywise
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Have read through the patent and didnt really get any info from it. I understand it backs up the chemtrail "theory" but i guess time for us to know why is not yet, If ever.


Wait I just reread your response...

What do you mean you didnt get any info from it..

It explains in great detail what it is...

How do you get no info from it?

It is a specific patent for Powder Chemtrail Generation from the United States Navy..And shows the aircraft parts that were invented to spray the powder...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 942322



Yes that info i got, but i have seen before and thank you.
Im sure there are many types of different equipment made to carry out what ever task they are doing,( sum not patented) I know chemtrails exist. The patent is good info to a non believer, that info would be good trying to prove there existance to someone doubtful me im already convinced.

I believe that tech is used daily and 99% of the flight paths are not available to us. Also im sure the tech is outdated and we might be able to see the paperwork of some of the newer stuff in 20 years or so.

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Alot more info, flight paths and programs here..

[link to mas.arc.nasa.gov]

Summary Information
Date: April 16, 1996
ER-2 Flight Number: 96-104
Location: Oklahoma CART Site, Kansas
Principle Investigator: Dr. Brian Toon (NASA Ames)
Additional Sensors: B&W_6"_RC-10, MIR, CLS, RAMS, HIS

Level-1B Processing Information
Level-1B Data Version: #10
Calibration Type: Final
Calibration Version: SUCCESS_Ames 1.0
Temperature Adjustment: No
Status: Final Calibration Done

Flight Track Map

click map!
Level-1B Browse Imagery
Straight Line Flight Tracks: 17
Scanlines Processed: 93756

Level-1B HDF Data Distribution Point
NASA GSFC Earth Sciences (GES) Data Center
NASA DAAC's

Additional Information
The objective of this mission was to observe T-39 and DC-8 generated persistent contrails of various age; characterize contrail/cirrus advection over CART site by combined ground-based uplooking and ER-2 based downlooking; characterize ambient radiometric conditions of atmosphere by flying upwind of T-39/DC-8 contrail generation region.

ER-2 launch at 1700 UTC; ER-2 recovery at 2335 UTC. ER-2 flew 12 legs of an east-west oriented line (headings 90 and 270 degrees true north; 130 nm length) with ARM CART site (36 36.3'N 97 29.1'W) positioned 50 nm from western end of nadir flight line. Final 2 legs extended to 180nm for additional downwind coverage of old contrails. Total of 12 overpasses of ARM CART site. T-39 flying 10 nm diameter circles positioned 10, 20, and 30 nm upwind (west) of ARM CART site. DC-8 flying north-south oriented legs centered at 0, 10, 20, and 30 nm downwind of ARM CART site and then flying racetrack (oriented about 15 degrees off ER-2 heading). No time-dependent positioning coordination between ER-2 and DC-8 or T-39.

Cirrus in westerly flow aloft of varying thickness over ARM CART site and all along ER-2 flight line. T-39 contrails were not persistent. DC-8 contrails more persistent than T-39. ER-2 pilot had 2 visual observations of DC-8 contrail (1802 and 2009:30 UTC).

The pilot reported cirrus of varying thickness. DC-8 with contrail apparent in MAS data at 1802 and 2009 UTC. ARM CART site uplooking lidar operating during mission. Twelve overpasses of ARM CART site (approximately 1758, 1828, 1849, 1918, 1939, 2009, 2030, 2100, 2121, 2150, 2211, and 2154 UTC). DC-8 contrail short-lived at 1802 UTC. No visual of T-39 aircraft or contrails.
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Have read through the patent and didnt really get any info from it. I understand it backs up the chemtrail "theory" but i guess time for us to know why is not yet, If ever.


It describes what we are seeing..

And the next post is a NASA experiment in persistent contrails...

And there are tests, flight paths, results and other programs on the link I left in the 2nd post..



Yes i gathered that. Thanks for info. Guess i was kinda hoping for the answers that arent available to us yet. Like why?
Maybe weve heard why but there are many theorys.

I in my heart know that they are not just plane exhaust (if you like) contrails. Any body that even looks up and thinks just a little bit must know it too.


There are numerous official documents about the why..

Owning The Weather: [link to csat.au.af.mil]

Geo-Engineering: [link to www.nasa.gov]
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Yes thanks. The problem is there are many documents as to why. Some have to be disinfo. Which ones?? lol

I guess thats the game they got us playing.
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Have read through the patent and didnt really get any info from it. I understand it backs up the chemtrail "theory" but i guess time for us to know why is not yet, If ever.


It describes what we are seeing..

And the next post is a NASA experiment in persistent contrails...

And there are tests, flight paths, results and other programs on the link I left in the 2nd post..



Yes i gathered that. Thanks for info. Guess i was kinda hoping for the answers that arent available to us yet. Like why?
Maybe weve heard why but there are many theorys.

I in my heart know that they are not just plane exhaust (if you like) contrails. Any body that even looks up and thinks just a little bit must know it too.


There are numerous official documents about the why..

Owning The Weather: [link to csat.au.af.mil]

Geo-Engineering: [link to www.nasa.gov]



Yes thanks. The problem is there are many documents as to why. Some have to be disinfo. Which ones?? lol

I guess thats the game they got us playing.
 Quoting: Rickster


The info is out there...You just have to search for it..

[link to mas.arc.nasa.gov]

[link to www.arm.gov]
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I'm using link coverters because glp bans imageshack links..
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Yet the UK through history has been FAMOUS for murky weather, haze, fog, rain etc.

Chemtards.
"Everybody lies."
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Exactly how it was in south for all days planes werent flying except for 1 day and even then the clouds were fluffly ones, no haze. Seems like them days are gone. Well maybe until Katla.
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Yet the UK through history has been FAMOUS for murky weather, haze, fog, rain etc.

Chemtards.
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Just guessing you keep your head to the ground or the t.v and dont really think about why too much.
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Yet the UK through history has been FAMOUS for murky weather, haze, fog, rain etc.

Chemtards.
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Only during the Winter, you fool.
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Yet the UK through history has been FAMOUS for murky weather, haze, fog, rain etc.

Chemtards.


Only during the Winter, you fool.
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Dont acknowledge him if he doesnt respond to the information..

These guys do the same thing over and over..

They avoid all evidence and call names...
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Yet the UK through history has been FAMOUS for murky weather, haze, fog, rain etc.

Chemtards.
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Strange, that when the no-fly order was in force a few days ago, the sky was clear blue pretty much everywhere in the UK.
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