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Original Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is different from Obama’s COLB

 
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DOCUMENT CONTAINS REGISTRAR’S NAME, ISSUE DATE AND RAISED SEAL
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by Sharon Rondeau

John F. Sweeney produced this edge-detection image of the Certificate of Live Birth obtained by The Post & Email from a person who had requested it from the Hawaii Department of Health

(Apr. 25, 2010) — The Post & Email is in possession of an original paper “Certificate of Live Birth” recently issued from the Hawaii Department of Health to an American citizen born in Hawaii in 1981 as verified by his mother.

At first glance, the document appears similar to the image posted on Obama’s campaign website. However, there are some differences:

* The document is titled “Certificate of Live Birth” as opposed to Obama’s “Certification of Live Birth.”
* There is more information about the parents on the right side of the document across from the spaces for “Mother’s Race” and “Father’s Race.” Both the mother’s and father’s places of birth are printed there. Obama’s purported “document” does not have that information.
* There is a visible certificate number at the top, while Obama’s is blacked out.
* On the back, there is a stamped date, presumably the date the document was issued from the Department of Health.
* Below the date there is a stamp which reads: “I CERTIFY THIS IS A TRUE COPY OR ABSTRACT OF THE RECORD ON FILE IN THE HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.” The signature of Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D., is also there, followed by the words “STATE REGISTRAR.”
* The document contains a raised seal which is visible from both sides, unlike Obama’s.
* There are no marks where it looks as if something has bled through from the back to the front as in Obama’s “document.”

The Post & Email had published an in-depth analysis by photographic expert John F. Sweeney of the document which Factcheck.org claimed to have photographed at its Chicago office in March 2008 but which Sweeney maintains was taken at the Obama campaign headquarters instead.

Factcheck.org claims that the document on their website has a raised seal. However, the same edge-detection technique used with the image from Factcheck’s website shown below yields no such raised seal. Mr. Sweeney stated in his earlier analysis:

Edge-detection of the document released by Factcheck.org shows no raised seal (John F. Sweeney)

“What else is in, or more importantly, not in this photo? There is absolutely no evidence of a raised seal in the lower right portion of the document where the supposed scans and other supposed photos show the raised, 3-D seal from the Department of Health machine. The seal should be located in the area that has the shadow of the arm. But it is not there. It is not visible to the naked eye; there is not a sign of it under any zooming of the original photo; no digital manipulation tools find any evidence of a raised seal in this picture. With 100% certainty, the raised seal is not there. So this is merely a picture of a printout. It is definitely not an official COLB from Hawaii…The photo is not that of an official Hawaiian issue COLB due to the lack of a raised seal.”

According to a WorldNetDaily report dated July 29, 2009, in 1961, there were four different ways to obtain birth documentation from the Hawaii Department of Health, including a mail-in registration requiring no in-person substantiation of the birth by an adult. One website reports that there were six ways to do so, with one category, the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, being eliminated in 1972.

The Hawaii Department of Health provides the following information on how to apply for a “late registration” of birth:

As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration:

* Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person’s parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth, except that an application will not be accepted for a deceased person.
* Registration of a late certificate of death, marriage, or divorce may be requested by the person in charge of the disposition of the body, marriage officiant or performer, or court clerk, respectively.

Factcheck.org claims that members of its staff examined Obama’s “birth certificate” at Obama headquarters and that “we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it’s stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates).” However, Factcheck displays a raised seal which cannot be conclusively determined to belong to Obama’s COLB, and the photo above of the Factcheck document using edge-detection shows no raised seal.

Likewise, Factcheck displays the stamp of Alvin T. Onaka’s signature in a close-up shot, but the background appears to be a darker shade of green than the full document. Similarly, the “blowup” of the “City” field on the Factcheck document appears to be a different shade of green than the full-size document shown above it. There is nothing to prove that an official registrar’s stamp, raised seal, or date stamp are present on the Factcheck document.

“Blowup” of a closeup from Obama’s purported “birth certificate” from Factcheck.org

In Factcheck’s “Analysis” of the purported Obama birth certificate, several links to news articles which supposedly quoted Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health as saying that she had personally seen Obama’s birth certificate on file no longer work, although the cited news reports are readily available elsewhere, and Dr. Fukino’s official public statements can be found here and here.

The document which The Post & Email has obtained shows the word “Certificate” at the top. The person to whom it belongs was born in Hawaii. Is the “Certification” document with Obama’s name on it an indication that he received a “delayed registration”? Is the word “Certification” used only in cases where a birth in Hawaii cannot be conclusively proven?

During a meeting of the Kenyan Parliament on March 25, 2010, Minister of Lands James Orengo stated that Obama was born in Kenya and not in the United States (p. 31). A previous Parliament meeting on November 5, 2008 contains multiple references to what might be understood as his birth in Kenya. The Kenyan ambassador to the U.S., Mr. Peter Ogego, stated that Obama’s birthplace is Kenya “is well-known,” and Obama’s wife has called Kenya his “home country.”

To date, no witnesses to Obama’s birth in Hawaii have come forward. Questions about his original birth certificate have been avoided by both the Bush administration and Obama regime.

Could Obama himself have requested a document from the Hawaii Department of Health in 2007 in preparation for his run for President? Did he file for a “delayed registration”? If so, what documentation did he present to Dr. Fukino or someone else at the Health Department? Could he have presented the birth announcements from the two Hawaii newspapers as proof of his birth there to obtain the “Certification of Live Birth”?
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You might want to keep an eye on a company called Fermilab. It is in Illinois. It appears they work with electro magnetic physics. Bill Ayers is associated with it and Soros is funding some.

If you know what this is, you will know how dangerous it is near Bill Ayers. Magnets can explode you know! The last thing we should ever let Ayers near is something that can be used in explosives, or worse.

I hope I have provided enough info, links and quotes to at least intrigue you into finding out more.

Even if it is to oppose any of my facts.

I hope too that I have stated my case in an effective and chronological order.

Obama is a plant, and I think I have proven it.
Part Eight

About Jo Anne Moretti and her motivations to create this document

I want to tell you all how I started this research. When this election started, I had never heard of Obama. When he first came on the scene, I was all for giving the new guy a chance. I wasn’t really into politics.

As the primaries got into full swing, I saw politicians like Kennedy, Kerry and Richardson going against their constituents and endorsing Obama, even though the voters in their states had chosen Hillary.

Then the Florida and Michigan debacle threw me.

I am originally from Massachusetts, the bluest state in the union. All my life, the liberals yelled when there were voter irregularities. I remember their battle cries of “count every vote”, but here they were now, stripping votes from Americans in two states.

Once the court decided the DNC was a private entity, even though the organization was full of public officials and they could exclude two states, I realized something was very wrong. I started trying to investigate Obama.

Soon, sites and videos were disappearing from the web. Obama had challenges levied against him, doubting his eligibility. Those challenges were systematically dismissed for standing, not merit. I found out the American citizens have no standing to challenge him.

As Obama’s associates came to light, they started to tell a chilling story.

I read Obama’s books. I read Corsi’s book. When I finished those, I read Alinksy’s “Rules for Radicals”. It all started coming together, but who would I talk to about these things?

I was reading a story on Fox and found Gretawire, At Gretawire, folks were talking about all the political issues. Some were posting links, so I went to the links. From there I started to research every name associated with Obama, posting the finds at Gretawire. Other people responded and posted articles and links too. I collected all the stories I and others had found and decided to try to put them in order to tell a story that made sense.

I’d like to thank all of those who helped me and especially thank those who continue to send me everything they find.

I’m not sure I should mention their names, because of the nature of this story. I don’t want them to get any slack for helping write this. I too send them finds as well.

This will be the last addition to the story, although I will still post whatever I can find. I wanted to keep this focused on the grooming and rise of Obama. There is so much more, but I will post them separately.

Again, thanks for reading it. I know it sounds farfetched, but what I have written is true to the best of my knowledge.

Please do your own follow-up. If you find anything out there that you think I would be interested in, please invite me to read it.

Jo Anne Moretti
Jo’s Thoughts after the post

Today’s thoughts.

I’d like to just ramble on about several things this morning. Remember early on, when I first began writing about Obama being a plant, I had said he was groomed for this all his life? Well, after finding those articles about his church in Hawaii, it is more evident that I was right.

Let’s track his life and connections.

Grandparents card carrying Commies. They raised their daughter, Ann, in their own image. They sent her to Marxist schools, (Mercer Island High in WA. state). They hand her off to Frank Marshall Davis. Once he has finished her indoctrination that includes her introduction to Malcolm X and Bernadine Dohrn, he hands her off to a radical Kenyan named Barack Obama. They have a child; Barack Obama jr. Radical Kenyan turns out to be a loser. She goes to another Radical, Indonesian Lolo Soetoro.

Anne, along with her son move to a Socialist, Muslim country. Her son is educated in a Wahabbi school. When the son matures a little, he is sent back stateside to the Commie grandparents. The grandparents hand him over to the same Marxist perv that they handed their daughter over to, Frank Marshall Davis.

The son attends an exclusive private school and also attends a Unitarian church. This church is so radical, the neighbors and townspeople don’t even know if it’s a “real” church. This supposed church harbors draft dodgers, radicals, fugitives and teaches radical religion.

The son continues his grooming.

It is a little sketchy as to how he was enrolled in college. Not sure if he was a foreign student. In his books, he claims to have traveled to Pakistan, while in college. The questions arise because it was very difficult for an American to travel to Pakistan at that point in time, as there were travel restrictions for Americans. That raises the questions of what passport he used.

In college, he says he sought out the radicals and Marxist professors. That can only mean, SDS, Students for a Democratic Society. Remember this point as it will come into play further on.

How he paid for college and was able to afford to travel around is a mystery, but it is clear, “someone was floating him”!

He gets into Harvard and Columbia. universities. His records are sealed to the public in both these universities. One should ask why. We should wonder if he even attended, how he enrolled and who paid these tabs, but right now, we do not have that info. The big question is why?

After college he is commissioned to Chicago.I believe it was Bill Ayers and Khalidi who visited him after Harvard. Imagine that, a Harvard and Oxford graduate taking a measly job like, “Community Organizer”? You’d think he would have had offers from every major law firm in the world, with that pedigree!

In Chicago the corruption is so rampant; it was easy to get him into the political arena. A lot of money buys a lot of influence. Again, “someone is floating him”!

If you go back through my posts, you will see he continues his indoctrination. He associates with the radicals, the Muslims, the corrupt bankers, Palestinian billionaire Khalidi and of course Bill Ayers and his now wife Bernadine Dohrn, remember her? It sounds like we have come full circle but not yet

He gets rushed into office nearly unopposed. He gets help from the community programs. They were rabid with their tactics, from marketing blitzes to contesting signatures. They bully and bum rush all opposition. In all his elections, he won handily. Soon he is running for President.

These community organizations have now all merged and sprouted up everywhere.

The founders of these groups are the same radicals his mother was introduced to through Marshall-Davis, the SDS and the Weather Underground. Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn Founded Progressives for Obama and had a hand in Project vote. Wade Rathke and his brother Dale are founders of ACORN. Tom Hayden takes care of the media with MoveOn.org. Zach Pollet founded Project Vote on paper, bur it an appendage of ACORN. Alan Haber marries the first woman chair of the UAW. Through them SEIU and other small unions sprout. All are original SDS and Weather Underground. Drummond Pike founded the Tides Foundation and Tides Center. This is a huge money laundering organization.

What a racket this one is! Tides takes money from anonymous billionaires, like of course Soros, the Sandlers and Theresa Heonz-Kerry, and distributes it to radical organizations. You know, billionaires hate to get their hands dirty, but love to make money!Tides refunded the embezzled millions that Dale Rathke stole from ACORN. No charges were ever filed.

Soros also is a big donor to Tides, through his Democracy Alliance and Open Society. There are more, but we all know who they are, especially if Soros is tied to it, like MoveOn.org! MoveOn.org is another favorite pet of Soros. It was founded by good old Senator Tom Hayden. Hayden was married to Jane Fonda too by the way! Yes, SDS Weather Underground original was a Senator!

After being a State Senator, with a very thin voting record, Obama gets bull rushed to the Congressional Senate. He never actually takes a stance on a serious issue. I realize now that was brilliant. Nothing negative happens to pin him down on. He manages to stay once removed from any scandal and there is plenty around him, including his bank and his house.(Rezko)! His support structure is reinforcing daily.

While he is the Congressional Senate he stays with the don’t commit, don’t get your hands dirty policy. Meanwhile ACORN and all the little ACORNS are in full launch method. They have meticulously “Community Organized their butts off”. They have been doing this since the 60’s! Keep this in mind so you can really see how dug in and determined these radicals are.

They saturate the country with volunteers, paid organizations, and foot soldiers . All their organizations have politically correct sounding names like Working families Party, Get out the vote, ACORN, Project vote. All are radical, Marxist organizations, hiding in plain sight!

Soon, They Succeed!! They get him into the White House. This was done so patiently and so methodically, nobody noticed.

Nobody noticed all the infrastructure being put in place. Organizations like DSA, Democratic Society of America is a popular one for Democrats. It’s Marxist! Socialists International is another. We have a Cabinet member who sat on their board, Carol Browner. We have Red Diaper Babies like Tim Geithner and Peter Orzag. We know Geithner’s father was a co worker with Obama’s mother. We have Leon Panetta, Waxman, Waters, Conyers, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Summers. Of course can’t leave out Brzezski! All of them are Socialists. How about Ginsberg? Mustn’t forget the Clintons. Hillary is from Chicago and studied Alinsky!

So who is going to object to what’s coming next, if there are this many operatives already in place? Already there just waiting for him!

He has already seized the banks, the auto industry, the financial industry, the insurance industry, private companies and corporations. He has usurped the power of the courts by constructing bankruptcies. That’s not his job. He is now trying to seize state and gun rights. These are buried deep in his bills. That is why he rushes

He has usurped the power of Congress, by replacing them with Czars, unopposed I might add! Czars do not answer to Congress. They answer to Obama. Czars are not elected by the people. They usurp us too! I think if Congress willingly surrenders their power to just one branch, it is a violation of their own oath to the Constitution!

Who’s going to press that issue, certainly not the operatives in Congress? Kennedy? Franks? Nope! They are on board. Look how fiercely they defend ACORN! Kennedy even gave ACORN a safety net, just in case they have to change their name. He wrote up to $8 billion dollars into the new bill for “Community Transformation”. Guess what that is!

The court? Nope! They surrendered their own power when they allow one branch to do bankruptcies! Now Obama wants “empathy” in the court. Courts are cut and dry law. Save the empathy for the emergency room, not the courtroom The Executive Branch is now the most powerful. The other two surrendered

So what’s next?

Already, the Constitution is under attack. State’s sovereignty, gun rights, freedom of speech, freedom of press and religious interference. Every bill he signs removes a piece at a time. This time it is state’s rights being taken in the Healthcare Bill. Another Rush job coming! He is selling this like a Sham WoW! This is so dangerous for America that he had ABC move into the White House to market it to fools!

T.A.R.P. meant TRAP. It also transferred our treasury to the private entity called the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is Not Federal at all!

He is putting the Census, along with the 2010 elections in the hands of the ACORNS who were waiting for their Messiah! The census determines political districting and we know the election will be destroyed with manipulation!

Nobody in politics will stop him.

They all know and now we all know!

America is in trouble from within. It’s the enemy hiding in plain sight that is taking us down.

Are we going to allow them to finish the job?

All they need now is the Youth Civilian Forces Obama promised us to our faces. Your kids and mine! Then they come for the guns! They have already identified their enemy, us! Their enemy is returning Veterans, Conservatives, pro lifers and Christians. They put it in a memo and made it public for all to see! Remember Janet Napolitano sticking to her statement?

So there you have it. I have provided enough evidence in my posts to back my convictions and my prediction of what’s coming!

I also want to add one statement. It’s a quote I have fallen in love with.

“WE ARE COMING”!

Thank you for reading this.

Jo Anne Moretti
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Once again, using OLD, NONSENSICAL GARBAGE data, and acting as if it is REAL AND GOOD.

There IS a raised deal, ON THE BACK. There IS A SIGNATURE, ON THE BACK.

The BC Obama has shown IS REAL, and no amount of ignorant assholes can change that.



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Right like one of those can't be forged..
And it's not or never was the POINT, the point is his FATHER'S place of birth. And the reason he is not legal..
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You see, Obama knows, I think he dared it through, amazing the clinton campaign didn't figure it out, but when they did he was too popular and the backlash would have been too strong. Now, it will become an issue when he is that unpopular and anyone reaches out for anything to get rid of him. it is not really a good situation, He knew before he even ran, lied about his campaign from the start. I also think Obama is exceptionally psychic. The President governs based on those around him, when they lose confidence then it all goes. The real problem here is if a martial law type, la in rubble, Katla exploding, terrorist nuke, etc, all not that unlikely, event occurs and all hell breaks loose, he uses the power to become a dictator and it is sci fi time.
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OP where did you find that link to JoAnne's blog? Are you she?

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I don't think the edge detection is conclusive, it depends on the pixelation, or resolution, of the scanned image.

I have a high res scan of the BC somewhere in my archives, I can do some image processing on it later.

I'm not sure the current day authenticity of the claimed BC is as much an issue as why Obama will not release earlier versions. Does he not possess an earlier version?

I think you can look at what is possibly concealed as motivation for withholding older documentation.

The parent information in the older BC would be more extensive. In particular, the parent information could have been updated by Obama himself on application to the registrar to correct the record.

Barack Obama senior, from the Luo tribe in Africa, came from a Muslim community in a country where Africans with Arab blood consider themselves superior to non-Arab, non-Muslim Africans. In fact, Barack Obama's father's race was registered in Kenya as Arab, not African.

Perhaps Barack Obama's old, historic printout of his BC indicates that his father is an Arab Muslim, which isn't as appealing to African Americans because it denies African heritage and aligns him racially with the genocidal Arabic tribes engaging in Negro-killing over in Africa right now.
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I don't think the edge detection is conclusive, it depends on the pixelation, or resolution, of the scanned image.

I have a high res scan of the BC somewhere in my archives, I can do some image processing on it later.

I'm not sure the current day authenticity of the claimed BC is as much an issue as why Obama will not release earlier versions. Does he not possess an earlier version?

I think you can look at what is possibly concealed as motivation for withholding older documentation.

The parent information in the older BC would be more extensive. In particular, the parent information could have been updated by Obama himself on application to the registrar to correct the record.

Barack Obama senior, from the Luo tribe in Africa, came from a Muslim community in a country where Africans with Arab blood consider themselves superior to non-Arab, non-Muslim Africans. In fact, Barack Obama's father's race was registered in Kenya as Arab, not African.

Perhaps Barack Obama's old, historic printout of his BC indicates that his father is an Arab Muslim, which isn't as appealing to African Americans because it denies African heritage and aligns him racially with the genocidal Arabic tribes engaging in Negro-killing over in Africa right now.
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Yes, those are points many seem to dismiss but should not.

He is not African American or Negroid to me anymore than he is Chinese...

He is mixed like many, but the loyalty being mixed is my issue with him...

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Once again, using OLD, NONSENSICAL GARBAGE data, and acting as if it is REAL AND GOOD.

There IS a raised deal, ON THE BACK. There IS A SIGNATURE, ON THE BACK.

The BC Obama has shown IS REAL, and no amount of ignorant assholes can change that.



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Complete and utter bsflag

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