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Science teacher 'yelled "Die, die, die" as he beat pupil around the head with dumbbell
A teacher shouted 'Die, die, die' as he bludgeoned a 14-year-old boy with a metal dumbbell after being baited by an unruly class of teenagers who were secretly filming him, a court heard today.

Peter Harvey, 50, eventually 'snapped' after the boy 'lit the blue touch paper' by telling him to 'F*** off'.

A jury heard how the science teacher then dragged the boy out of a class and across a corridor before hitting him twice over the head with the 3kg weight.

Prosecutor Stuart Rafferty QC said Harvey was heard shouting 'Die, die, die' as he carried out the assault, which was partially recorded by a CCTV camera in the corridor and a pupil using a hidden camcorder at the back of the classroom.

The teacher had been off work for four months with stress and depression after confiding to a colleague that he felt he 'could not be trusted' and may 'harm someone'.

Mr Rafferty said at least some of the pupils knew of the teacher's history, regarded him as a 'soft touch when it came to discipline' and tried to 'push the boundaries'.

The footage, which was shown to the jury during the opening of Harvey's trial today, began after the father-of-two had been in an altercation with a female pupil who had been 'messing about' with window blinds and a white board.

One pupil then called the teacher a 'bald-headed b******', prompting classmates on the video to taunt Harvey with shouts of 'psycho'

Harvey is alleged to have dragged her away from the window by her bag before kicking her in the leg. She then called him a 'bald-headed b******', prompting classmates on the video to taunt Harvey with shouts of 'psycho'.

Moments before the attack, the teacher, who had been on the staff at the school for 16 years before the incident last July, was recorded warning the boy to put down a wooden metre ruler 'or he would regret it'.

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Damn, now the teachers are going postal.

These are crazy times to be sure.
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Fail teacher.
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Why rate and not comment?

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atleast he wasnt screaming allah akbah hehe.
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Damn, now the teachers are going postal.

These are crazy times to be sure.
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Sometimes kids deserve it.
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Damn, now the teachers are going postal.

These are crazy times to be sure.


Sometimes kids deserve it.
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especially the little shits we got in this country. sad though but understandable he he snapped over time. parents are to blame for not teaching respect.
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Damn, now the teachers are going postal.

These are crazy times to be sure.


Sometimes kids deserve it.
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Not to that extreme. What ever happened to detention and expulsion?
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Damn, now the teachers are going postal.

These are crazy times to be sure.


Sometimes kids deserve it.



Not to that extreme. What ever happened to detention and expulsion?
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the kids armed themselves and will wait for teachers outside of school these days.
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Could he have just thrown the child out of the class and have him report to principle Skinner?
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Damn, now the teachers are going postal.

These are crazy times to be sure.


Sometimes kids deserve it.


especially the little shits we got in this country. sad though but understandable he he snapped over time. parents are to blame for not teaching respect.
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True, they need to make the parents come to school, get their little brat, and let them know that Rotten Robbie won't be allowed back in school if he messes up again. They need to make the parents accountable to teach the kid some values that they should have taught them from day one.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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Kids today are hopeless period...
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atleast he wasnt screaming allah akbah hehe.
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allah HU akbar.
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Being in school should be a privelege, not a right. Don't want to be there, fine, you can start your career picking produce in the fields early.

Oh, but wait, then they couldn't dose them with government propaganda if all the kids weren't required to be there...
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atleast he wasnt screaming allah akbah hehe.

allah HU akbar.
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a jewish grammar nazi hehe.
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They set him up. that's what they do now. they pushed all the right buttons. Someone must have wanted to be able to get rid of him.
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Anyone who can't sympathize with the teacher hasn't been around kids lately.

Fuckers are evil little shits.
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Most days I think this should be done to school kids 13 and over on a daily basis. Confiscate all the cellphones and video cameras, put them in a bag. Draw 20 names or so and beat them senseless with that bag of electronics. Then they can have their cellphones back.
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Being in school should be a privelege, not a right. Don't want to be there, fine, you can start your career picking produce in the fields early.

Oh, but wait, then they couldn't dose them with government propaganda if all the kids weren't required to be there...
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If you force people in a prison/daycare (school) for 30-40 hours a week then obviously there will be friction.

Why would going to prison/daycare be a right or privilege, sounds like dictatorial agenda.
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Anyone who can't sympathize with the teacher hasn't been around kids lately.

Fuckers are evil little shits.
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LOL.
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Though the punishment was a little extreme. It was bound to happen at some point. Some kids do not have any respect, and that is the way they are brought up.
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schools need to bring discipline back and parents need to discipline kids so schools have the backing they need to carry on a decent education. respect on all sides.

odd this, anyone else read the article?

"The teacher was eventually led to the headmaster's office, where he was observed making 'low howling noises' until the police arrived.

As he was led away, Harvey told officers he had killed the boy and added: 'I don't know who I am, this isn't me.'

At the police station, he headbutted a TV screen after catching his reflection in the glass.

He told officers he felt 'no emotion' whilst carrying out the attack.

The court heard the boy, who like the other children in the case cannot be identified, suffered a fractured skull in the attack and has been left with loss of hearing on his right side.

Mr Rafferty told the jury that the teacher had 'deliberately armed himself with a lethal weapon' before carrying out the attack.

He added: 'It may be suggested by the defence that that classroom footage is indicative of a concerted desire to provoke Mr Harvey but if that is true, and it is up to you to say, provocation is not a defence.

'It is not in dispute that the blows were unlawful, it's never been suggested that he was acting in self defence.'

The prosecution alleges he knew what he was doing when he attacked the pupil and it was not a moment when the 'red mist' descended so that he did not know what he was doing."
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can they use the "red mist" as demon possession defense? isn't that what was used for the axe man in canada?

sad for teachers and students now a daze.
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This happened like ~20 miles from where I live, and knowing some people from Mansfield, I'm guessing the kid was a little shit anyway, which is no excuse, but that isn't the point.

I also doubt it's particularly rare for a teacher to hit a pupil, just usually not to this extreme.
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<snip>

"The teacher was eventually led to the headmaster's office, where he was observed making 'low howling noises' until the police arrived.

As he was led away, Harvey told officers he had killed the boy and added: 'I don't know who I am, this isn't me.'

At the police station, he headbutted a TV screen after catching his reflection in the glass.

He told officers he felt 'no emotion' whilst carrying out the attack.

<snip>
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 895507


It sounds like he had some kind of psychotic episode.

Last Edited by Andromeda on 04/26/2010 03:43 PM
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"How can ya have any pudding if you don't eat your meat!"
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Anyone who can't sympathize with the teacher hasn't been around kids lately.

Fuckers are evil little shits.
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I dated a teacher for a while. She quit to become a waitress in a bar. She likes it better; the drunk bar patrons are more civilized.
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Re: Science teacher 'yelled "Die, die, die" as he beat pupil around the head with dumbbell
This happened like ~20 miles from where I live, and knowing some people from Mansfield, I'm guessing the kid was a little shit anyway, which is no excuse, but that isn't the point.

I also doubt it's particularly rare for a teacher to hit a pupil, just usually not to this extreme.
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sounded like several of them were little shits and he was concerned about still another little shit being placed in his room.

he wasn't ready to be back at the school either way.

they pushed him and pushed him repeatedly to get a reaction from him. they did it with purpose of thought with camera ready. guess they didn't think he'd actually snap.
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Damn, now the teachers are going postal.

These are crazy times to be sure.


Sometimes kids deserve it.


especially the little shits we got in this country. sad though but understandable he he snapped over time. parents are to blame for not teaching respect.
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It sounds like he had some kind of psychotic episode.
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I cant wait for mine.

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Did he kill the kid? I hope so.





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