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How can one stay sane in a collapsing world? (rant ahead)

 
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The people I knew are getting dumber and less caring about the world each day. I use 'knew' because I did know them once upon a time, but they've changed so much that I hardly know them anymore. The truth has also sculpted me into a new person altogether so that people don't know me...

I've been unemployed for over a year, I've applied at a little over 240 jobs. I haven't gotten a single one. "Oh, just go get a job, you bum." You know what, fuck you. You have no idea how AGGRAVATING it is to go through that number of jobs and get NOTHING. No fucking clue. I am so sick and tired of hunting for jobs I know I'll never get! You do not want to be in your 20's at this time. There's a reason they're calling us "The Lost Generation." People are so fucking arrogant and full of themselves. Doesn't help that most people are trained to see themselves as the Batman they see in the movies or Captain kirk from Star Trek. Certainly as assinine as he was.

Seriously, people don't give a shit. They think that this is the way to solve most of their problems, to act like a 15 year old and making an ass of themselves. Boy, you can't be any more fucking retarded than that, but hey, whatever fills your shallow and short lived fantasies.

I'm trying not to become an alcoholic because of how shitty my life is. It's been pretty difficult so far. I have a HUGE craving for whiskey right now, but I know it'd be wise not to have any.

I'm seriously entertaining the idea of buying a log cabin somewhere in the woods. It'd be the only way to stay sane at this point.

How else can one stay sane in a collapsing world? It's clear that's what's happening. The foundations that made the Feds function are being pulled from under them from catastrophes they did not see happening. Society is collapsing whether they know it or not. Sadly, most don't seem to be aware at all and they all conform to their dysfunctional trivialities, masturbating to their own short lived fantasies. In other words, they choose to live in denial.

Seriously, I don't want this shit. And I'm sure that millions of others struggling like me don't want it either.

Sorry, but there's some days where my life completely sucks and I simply can't stand it.

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Last Edited by Mittermeyer on 04/27/2010 05:32 PM
"Slaves who imagine they are free cannot be liberated." -Vernon Howard

"When one begins to equate their outer experience to the things previously seen in their mind as a mere coincidence, one is set on the path to realizing that the reality seen by the 5 senses is in actuality the material manifestation of what occurs within the human mind and heart."
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Once upon a time Khidr, the teacher of Moses, called upon mankind with a warning. At a certain date, he said, all the water in the world which had not been specially hoarded, would disappear. It would then be renewed, with different water, which would drive men mad.
Only one man listened to the meaning of this advice. He collected water and went to a secure place where he stored it, and waited for the water to change its character.
On the appointed date the streams stopped running, the wells went dry, and the man who had listened, seeing this happening, went to his retreat and drank his preserved water.
When he saw, from his security, the waterfalls again beginning to flow, this man descended among the other sons of men. He found that they were thinking and talking in an entirely different way from before; yet they had no memory of what had happened, nor of having been warned. When he tried to talk to them, he realized that they thought that he was mad, and they showed hostility or compassion, not understanding.
At first, he drank none of the new water, but went back to his concealment, to draw on his supplies, every day. Finally, however, he took the decision to drink the new water because he could not bear the loneliness of living, behaving and thinking in a different way from everyone else. He drank the new water, and became like the rest. Then he forgot all about his own store of special water, and his fellows began to look upon him as a madman who had miraculously been restored to sanity.
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Hmmm. How to stay sane in an insane world. Let me think...

[link to www.youtube.com]

Thereís death in the air my eyes are bloodshot red
Iím foreva blunted so I donít care
Word to my nappy black hair
Itís the year of the leader, the followerís a dummy
Heíll die alone with no fucking money
All alone in his crib lookin out the window
While the wind blow playin Nintendo
Jackin off shit like thatís not happenin
Hands are clappin toes are tappin n*ggaz is rappin
Who the fuck are you? Yo Iím the NINE
Foreva blunted always hunted, in my prime
My skills have grown like a fungus
Ta make Gís in the hundreds as the tongue
Gets wicked I kick it
On the ave with my n*ggaz passin C notes
Guzzlin 40ís wrapped in brown paper bags
Loadin up mags, 5 0 patrols im still blunted
Still hunted, still donít know what the fuck he wanted
Jumped out the blue and white with that bullshit
Stick in his grip tight, I aint in the mood tonight
Foreva stressing make a n*gga wanna pull his Smith & Wesson
REDRUM, No question.
That shit be makin ya screws loose and like an old
Shoppin cart we aint tin men n*ggaz got heart
Like my n*gga Noble and my n*gga Troy Strong
Real brothas with balls get 911 calls
When shit hits the fan there I stand with my blunt
And my glock in my hand whats the plan?
We bumrushin all snakes and devils no matter their color
We the next generation of rebels
Hard headed undisciplined and ruthless
Youíll wind up toothless, the wanted, foreva blunted

(break)

Check the flav donít misbehave on my block
Youll get shot when you see the infrared dot
And hear the glock pop youíll drop like rain in mad pain
When a n*gga got nothing to lose a n*gga goes insane
Mad heads on the ave scramblin some gambling
As I see itís shit: beatís panhandling
A quarter here a quarter there
see I told ya thatís why we murder
Ya need to fight for your right or get bucked like burtha
Its SILLYÖhere comes the sequal
You can get drunk as a skunk but weeds illegal??
Iím foreva blunted anyway I donít give a fuck
what uncle sam say OK? letís parlay
ease on down the project block and make some noise
wake up the neighborhood pumpin beats its all good
spark a blizznut lamp on the project bench
here comes 5 0 again you know the monkeywrench
fuckin up a n*ggaz fun is always illin
step the fuck off flatfoot we chillin
you donít live here anyway take ya ass back ta scarsdale
before I hit you with this garbage pale
mad stressÖthank god for the Buddha bless
now itís off my chest
until tomorrow itíll happen again
Iíll still be hunted Iíll still be wanted
So Iím foreva blunted.

Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 04/27/2010 05:42 PM
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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What you need to do...Is take care of YOU....and your loved ones .....



hf hf peace
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What you need to do...Is take care of YOU....and your loved ones .....

hf hf peace
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Thank you, that's what's most important. I'm too concerned about the people in the world. I should be more concerned about the people immediately around me, as well as myself. I don't know why I forget that so much, but it might be because I love the world too much. I hate to see what's happening.
"Slaves who imagine they are free cannot be liberated." -Vernon Howard

"When one begins to equate their outer experience to the things previously seen in their mind as a mere coincidence, one is set on the path to realizing that the reality seen by the 5 senses is in actuality the material manifestation of what occurs within the human mind and heart."
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Once upon a time Khidr, the teacher of Moses, called upon mankind with a warning. At a certain date, he said, all the water in the world which had not been specially hoarded, would disappear. It would then be renewed, with different water, which would drive men mad.
Only one man listened to the meaning of this advice. He collected water and went to a secure place where he stored it, and waited for the water to change its character.
On the appointed date the streams stopped running, the wells went dry, and the man who had listened, seeing this happening, went to his retreat and drank his preserved water.
When he saw, from his security, the waterfalls again beginning to flow, this man descended among the other sons of men. He found that they were thinking and talking in an entirely different way from before; yet they had no memory of what had happened, nor of having been warned. When he tried to talk to them, he realized that they thought that he was mad, and they showed hostility or compassion, not understanding.
At first, he drank none of the new water, but went back to his concealment, to draw on his supplies, every day. Finally, however, he took the decision to drink the new water because he could not bear the loneliness of living, behaving and thinking in a different way from everyone else. He drank the new water, and became like the rest. Then he forgot all about his own store of special water, and his fellows began to look upon him as a madman who had miraculously been restored to sanity.
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Thanks for sharing this. I've been through that a couple of times. It feels like I'm going through it again on an extreme level. Maybe I'm better off joining some type of commune. As long as they have internet access, then I really don't mind.

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"Slaves who imagine they are free cannot be liberated." -Vernon Howard

"When one begins to equate their outer experience to the things previously seen in their mind as a mere coincidence, one is set on the path to realizing that the reality seen by the 5 senses is in actuality the material manifestation of what occurs within the human mind and heart."
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Thought you would enjoy this OP

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7 Reasons the 21st Century is Making You Miserable
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Scientists call it the Naked Photo Test, and it works like this: say a photo turns up of you nakedly doing something that would shame you and your family for generations. Bestiality, perhaps. Ask yourself how many people in your life you would trust with that photo. If you're like the rest of us, you probably have at most two.

Even more depressing, studies show that about one out of four people have no one they can confide in.


The Sad Bear 1, by Nedroid

The average number of close friends we say we have is dropping fast, down dramatically in just the last 20 years. Why?

#1. We don't have enough annoying strangers in our lives.

That's not sarcasm. Annoyance is something you build up a tolerance to, like alcohol or a bad smell. The more we're able to edit the annoyance out of our lives, the less we're able to handle it.

The problem is we've built an awesome, sprawling web of technology meant purely to let us avoid annoying people. Do all your Christmas shopping online and avoid the fat lady ramming her cart into you at Target. Spend $5,000 on a home theater system so you can see movies on a big screen without a toddler kicking the back of your seat. Hell, rent the DVD's from Netflix and you don't even have to spend the 30 seconds with the confused kid working the register at Blockbuster.

Get stuck in the waiting room at the doctor? No way we're striking up a conversation with the smelly old man in the next seat. We'll plug the iPod into our ears and have a text conversation with a friend or play our DS. Filter that annoyance right out of our world.


From outofbalance.org
Now that would be awesome if it were actually possible to keep all of the irritating shit out of your life. But, it's not. It never will be. As long as you have needs, you'll have to deal with people you can't stand from time to time. We're losing that skill, the one that lets us deal with strangers and tolerate their shrill voices and clunky senses of humor and body odor and squeaky shoes. So, what encounters you do have with the outside world, the world you can't control, make you want to go on a screaming crotch-punching spree.


Oh, yeah. Right in the crotch, buddy.

#2. We don't have enough annoying friends, either.

Lots of us were born into towns full of people we couldn't stand. As a kid, maybe you found yourself in an elementary school classroom, packed in with two dozen kids you did not choose and who shared none of your tastes or interests. Maybe you got beat up a lot.

But, you've grown up. And if you're, say, a huge DragonForce fan, you can go find their forum and meet a dozen people just like you. Or even better, start a private room with your favorite few and lock everybody else out. Say goodbye to the tedious, awkward, painful process of dealing with somebody who's truly different. That's another Old World inconvenience, like having to wash your clothes in a creek or wait for a raccoon to wander by the outhouse so you can wipe your ass with it.

The problem is that peacefully dealing with incompatible people is crucial to living in a society. In fact, if you think about it, peacefully dealing with people you can't stand is society. Just people with opposite tastes and conflicting personalities sharing space and cooperating, often through gritted teeth.

Fifty years ago, you had to sit in a crowded room to see a movie. You didn't get to choose; you either did that or you missed the movie. When you got a new car, everyone on the block came and stood in your yard to look it over. You can bet that some of those people were assholes.


Your parents, circa 1982
Yet, on the whole, people back then were apparently happier in their jobs and more satisfied with their lives. And get this: They had more friends.

That's right. Even though they had almost no ability to filter their peers according to common interests (hell, often you were just friends with the guy who happened to live next door), they still came up with more close friends than we have now-people they could trust.

It turns out, apparently, that after you get over that first irritation, after you shed your shell of "they listen to different music because they wouldn't understand mine" superiority, there's a sort of comfort in needing other people and being needed on a level beyond common interests. It turns out humans are social animals after all. And that ability to suffer fools, to tolerate annoyance, that's literally the one single thing that allows you to function in a world populated by other people who aren't you. Otherwise, you turn emo. Science has proven it.

#3. Texting is a shitty way to communicate.

I have this friend who uses the expression "No, thank you," in a sarcastic way. It means, "I'd rather be shot in the face." He puts a little ironic lilt on the last two words that lets you know. You ask, "Want to go see that new Rob Schneider movie?" And, he'll say, "No, thank you."

So one day we had this exchange via text:

Me: "Hey, do you want me to bring over that leftover chili I made?"

Him: "No, thank you"

That pissed me off. I'm proud of my chili. It takes four days to make it. I grind up the dried peppers myself; the meat is expensive, hand-tortured veal. And, now my offer to give him some is dismissed with his bitchy catchphrase?

I didn't speak to him for six months. He sent me a letter, I mailed it back, unread, with a dead rat packed inside.

It was my wife who finally ran into him and realized that the "No, thank you" he replied with was not meant to be sarcastic, but was a literal, "No, but thank you for offering." He had no room in his freezer, it turns out.


The Sad Bear #2, by Nedroid

So did we really need a study to tell us that more than 40 percent of what you say in an e-mail is misunderstood? Well, they did one anyway.

How many of your friends have you only spoken with online? If 40 percent of your personality has gotten lost in the text transition, do these people even really know you? The people who dislike you via text, on message boards or chatrooms or whatever, is it because you're really incompatible? Or, is it because of the misunderstood 40 percent? And, what about the ones who like you?

Many of us try to make up that difference in sheer numbers, piling up six dozen friends on MySpace. But here's the problem ...

#4. Online company only makes us lonelier.

When someone speaks to you face-to-face, what percentage of the meaning is actually in the words, as opposed to the body language and tone of voice? Take a guess.

It's 7 percent. The other 93 percent is nonverbal, according to studies. No, I don't know how they arrived at that exact number. They have a machine or something. But we didn't need it. I mean, come on. Most of our humor is sarcasm, and sarcasm is just mismatching the words with the tone. Like my friend's "No, thank you."

You don't wait for a girl to verbally tell you she likes you. It's the sparkle in her eyes, her posture, the way she grabs your head and shoves your face into her boobs.

That's the crux of the problem. That human ability to absorb the moods of others through that kind of subconscious osmosis is crucial. Kids born without it are considered mentally handicapped. People who have lots of it are called "charismatic" and become movie stars and politicians. It's not what they say; it's this energy they put off that makes us feel good about ourselves.

When we're living in Text World, all that is stripped away. There's a weird side effect to it, too: absent a sense of the other person's mood, every line we read gets filtered through our own mood instead. The reason I read my friend's chili message as sarcastic was because I was in an irritable mood. In that state of mind, I was eager to be offended.
And worse, if I do enough of my communicating this way, my mood never changes. After all, people keep saying nasty things to me! Of course I'm depressed! It's me against the world!

No, what I need is somebody to shake me by the shoulders and snap me out of it. Which leads us to No. 5 ...

#5. We don't get criticized enough.

Most of what sucks about not having close friends isn't the missed birthday parties or the sad, single-player games of ping pong with the wall. No, what sucks is the lack of real criticism.

In my time online I've been called "fag" approximately 104,165 times. I keep an Excel spreadsheet. I've also been called "asshole" and "cockweasel" and "fuckcamel" and "cuntwaffle" and "shitglutton" and "porksword" and "wangbasket" and "shitwhistle" and "thundercunt" and "fartminge" and "shitflannel" and "knobgoblin" and "boring."

And none of it mattered, because none of those people knew me well enough to really hit the target. I've been insulted lots, but I've been criticized very little. And don't ever confuse the two. An insult is just someone who hates you making a noise to indicate their hatred. A barking dog. Criticism is someone trying to help you, by telling you something about yourself that you were a little too comfortable not knowing.


Above: A flamboyant transvestite with about
five times as many friends as the average person

Tragically, there are now a whole lot of people who never have those conversations. The interventions, the brutal honesty, the, "you know, everybody's pissed off because of what you said last night, but nobody wants to say anything because they're afraid of you," sort of conversations. Those horrible, awkward, wrenchingly uncomfortable sessions that you can only have with someone who sees right to the center of you.

E-mail and texting are awesome tools for avoiding that level of honesty. With text, you can respond when you feel like it. You can measure your words. You can pick and choose which questions to answer. The person on the other end can't see your face, can't see you get nervous, can't detect when you're lying. You have almost total control and as a result that other person never sees past your armor, never sees you at your worst, never knows the embarrassing little things about yourself that you can't control. Gone are the common quirks, humiliations and vulnerabilities that real friendships are built on.

Browse around people's MySpace pages, look at the characters they create for themselves. If you've built a pool of friends via a blog, building yourself up as a misunderstood, mysterious Master of the Night, it's kind of hard to log on and talk about how you went to prom and got diarrhea out on the dance floor. You never get to really be yourself, and that's a very lonely feeling.

And, on top of all that ...

#6. We're victims of the Outrage Machine.

A whole lot of the people still reading this are saying, "Of course I'm depressed! People are starving! America has turned into Nazi Germany! My parents watch retarded television shows and talk about them for hours afterward! People are dying in meaningless wars all over the world!"

But how did we wind up with a more negative view of the world than our parents? Or grandparents? Back then, people didn't live as long and babies died more often. Diseases were more common. In those days, if your buddy moved away the only way to communicate was with pen and paper and a stamp. We have Iraq, but our parents had Vietnam (which killed 50 times more people) and their parents had World War 2 (which killed 1,000 times as many). Some of your grandparents grew up at a time when nobody had air conditioning. All of their parents grew up without it.

We are physically better off today in every possible way in which such things can be measured ... but you sure as hell wouldn't know that if you're getting your news online. Why?

Well, ask yourself: If some music site posts an article called, "Fall Out Boy is a Fine Band" and on the same day posts another one called, "Fall Out Boy is the Shittiest Fucking Band of the Last 100 Years, Say Experts," which do you think will get the most traffic? The second one wins in a blowout. Outrage manufactures word-of-mouth.

The news blogs many of you read? The people running them know the same thing. Every site is in a dogfight for traffic (even if they don't run ads, they still measure their success by the size of their audience) and so they carefully pick through the wires for the most inflammatory story possible. The other blogs start echoing the same story from the same point of view. If you want, you can surf all day and never swim out of the warm, stagnant waters of the "aren't those bastards evil" pool.


Actually, if you count the guy holding the camera, this man
statistically has more friends than most of us do.

Only in that climate could those silly 9/11 conspiracy theories come about (saying the Bush administration and the FDNY blew up the towers, and that the planes were holograms). To hear these people talk, every opposing politician is Hitler, and every election is the freaking apocalypse. All because it keeps you reading.


9/11 photos. Circled: Conspiracy

This wasn't as much a problem in the old days, of course. Some of us remember having only three channels on TV. That's right. Three. We're talking about the '80s here. So there was something unifying in the way we all sat down to watch the same news, all of it coming from the same point of view. Even if the point of view was retarded and wrong, even if some stories went criminally unreported, we at least all shared it.

That's over. There effectively is no "mass media" any more so, where before we disagreed because we saw the same news and interpreted it differently, now we disagree because we're seeing completely different freaking news. When we can't even agree on the basic facts, the differences become irreconcilable. That constant feeling of being at bitter odds with the rest of the world brings with it a tension that just builds and builds.

We humans used to have lots of natural ways to release that kind of angst. But these days...

#7. We feel worthless, because we actually are worth less.

There's one advantage to having mostly online friends, and it's one that nobody ever talks about:

They demand less from you.

Sure, you emotionally support them, comfort them after a breakup, maybe even talk them out of a suicide. But knowing someone in meatspace adds a whole, long list of annoying demands. Wasting your whole afternoon helping them fix their computer. Going to funerals with them. Toting them around in your car every day after theirs gets repossessed by the bank. Having them show up unannounced when you were just settling in to watch the Dirty Jobs marathon on the Discovery channel, then mentioning how hungry they are until you finally give them half your sandwich.

You have so much more control in Instant Messenger, or on a forum, or in World of Warcraft.

The problem is you are hard-wired by evolution to need to do things for people. Everybody for the last five thousand years seemed to realize this and then we suddenly forgot it in the last few decades. We get suicidal teens and scramble to teach them self-esteem. Well, unfortunately, self-esteem and the ability to like yourself only come after you've done something that makes you likable. You can't bullshit yourself. If I think Todd over here is worthless for sitting in his room all day, drinking Pabst and playing video games one-handed because he's masturbating with the other one, what will I think of myself if I do the same thing?


The Sad Bear #3, by Nedroid

You want to break out of that black tar pit of self-hatred? Brush the black hair out of your eyes, step away from the computer and buy a nice gift for someone you loathe. Send a card to your worst enemy. Make dinner for your mom and dad. Or just do something simple, with an tangible result. Go clean the leaves out of the gutter. Grow a damn plant.

It ain't rocket science; you are a social animal and thus you are born with little happiness hormones that are released into your bloodstream when you see a physical benefit to your actions. Think about all those teenagers in their dark rooms, glued to their PC's, turning every life problem into ridiculous melodrama. Why do they make those cuts on their arms? It's because making the pain-and subsequent healing-tangible releases endorphins they don't get otherwise. It's pain, but at least it's real.

That form of stress relief via mild discomfort used to be part of our daily lives, via our routine of hunting gazelles and gathering berries and climbing rocks and fighting bears. No more. This is why office jobs make so many of us miserable; we don't get any physical, tangible result from our work. But do construction out in the hot sun for two months, and for the rest of your life you can drive past a certain house and say, "Holy shit, I built that." Maybe that's why mass shootings are more common in offices than construction sites.

It's the kind of physical, dirt-under-your-nails satisfaction that you can only get by turning off the computer, going outdoors and re-connecting with the real world. That feeling, that "I built that" or "I grew that" or "I fed that guy" or "I made these pants" feeling, can't be matched by anything the internet has to offer.

Except, you know, this website.
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Thanks for sharing this. I've been through that a couple of times. It feels like I'm going through it again on an extreme level. Maybe I'm better off joining some type of commune. As long as they have internet access, then I really don't mind.
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here's another angle

"Tale of the Sands"


A stream, from its course in far-off mountains, passing through every kind and description of countryside, at last reached the sands of the desert. Just as it had crossed every other barrier, the stream tried to cross this one, but found that as fast as it ran into the sand, its waters disappeared.

It was convinced, however, that its destiny was to cross this desert, and yet there was no way. Now a hidden voice, coming from the desert itself, whispered: "The wind crosses the desert, and so can the stream."

The stream objected that it was dashing itself against the sand, and only getting absorbed: that the wind could fly, and this was why it could cross a desert.

"By hurtling in your own accustomed way you cannot get across. You will either disappear or become a marsh. You must allow the wind to carry you over, to your destination.

But how could this happen? "By allowing yourself to be absorbed in the wind."

This idea was not acceptable to the stream. After all, it had never been absorbed before. It did not want to lose its individuality. And, once having lost it, how was one to know that it could ever be regained?

"The wind, "said the sand, "performs this function. It takes up water, carries it over the desert, and then lets it fall again. Falling as rain, the water again becomes a river."

"How can I know that this is true?" "It is so, and if you do not believe it, you cannot become more than a quagmire, and even that could take many, many years. And it certainly is not the same as a stream."

"But can I not remain the same stream that I am today?"

"You cannot in either case remain so," the whisper said. "Your essential part is carried away and forms a stream again. You are called what you are even today because you do not know which part of you is the essential one."

When it heard this, certain echoes began to arise in the thoughts of the stream. Dimly it remembered a state in which it - or some part of it? - had been held in the arms of a wind. It also remembered - or did it? - that this was the real thing, not necessarily the obvious thing to do.

And the stream raised its vapor into the welcoming arms of the wind, which gently and easily bore it upwards and along, letting it fall softly as soon as they reached the roof of a mountain, many, many miles away. And because it had its doubts, the stream was able to remember and record more strongly in its mind the details of the experience. It reflected, "Yes, now I have learned my true identity."

The stream was learning. But the sands whispered: "We know, because we see it happen day after day: and because we, the sands, extend from the riverside all the way to the mountain."

And that is why it is said that the way in which the stream of Life is to continue on its journey is written in the Sands."
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The people I knew are getting dumber and less caring about the world each day. I use 'knew' because I did know them once upon a time, but they've changed so much that I hardly know them anymore. The truth has also sculpted me into a new person altogether so that people don't know me...

I've been unemployed for over a year, I've applied at a little over 240 jobs. I haven't gotten a single one. "Oh, just go get a job, you bum." You know what, fuck you. You have no idea how AGGRAVATING it is to go through that number of jobs and get NOTHING. No fucking clue. I am so sick and tired of hunting for jobs I know I'll never get! You do not want to be in your 20's at this time. There's a reason they're calling us "The Lost Generation." People are so fucking arrogant and full of themselves. Doesn't help that most people are trained to see themselves as the Batman they see in the movies or Captain kirk from Star Trek. Certainly as assinine as he was.

Seriously, people don't give a shit. They think that this is the way to solve most of their problems, to act like a 15 year old and making an ass of themselves. Boy, you can't be any more fucking retarded than that, but hey, whatever fills your shallow and short lived fantasies.

I'm trying not to become an alcoholic because of how shitty my life is. It's been pretty difficult so far. I have a HUGE craving for whiskey right now, but I know it'd be wise not to have any.

I'm seriously entertaining the idea of buying a log cabin somewhere in the woods. It'd be the only way to stay sane at this point.

How else can one stay sane in a collapsing world? It's clear that's what's happening. The foundations that made the Feds function are being pulled from under them from catastrophes they did not see happening. Society is collapsing whether they know it or not. Sadly, most don't seem to be aware at all and they all conform to their dysfunctional trivialities, masturbating to their own short lived fantasies. In other words, they choose to live in denial.

Seriously, I don't want this shit. And I'm sure that millions of others struggling like me don't want it either.

Sorry, but there's some days where my life completely sucks and I simply can't stand it.

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Thought you would enjoy this OP

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Wow, that was amazing. You simply don't see that kind of perspective everyday. I should learn to take text on a 2 dimensional screen only when it's seriously needed and remember the limitations of this form of communication. Thank you.

Tale of the Sands was cool too. That puts the same concept into a easier to understand perspective. Thank you.

I feel your pain hugs
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hf hf hf

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Re: How can one stay sane in a collapsing world? (rant ahead)
Nice information in this thread. Its so true that in todays world its way too easy to shut out the world. A person decides what they like and will no longer accept other views and shut those other people out. So many people do not allow new things into their world. They are no longer growing as a person. They know nothing but what they knew at the time they shout off the world.


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Whatever you do, don't touch the whiskey.
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Re: How can one stay sane in a collapsing world? (rant ahead)
I love the water and sand story!

Regarding looking for a job, it seems to me that putting in applications, especially for every possible job opening you see, is the wrong way to go about it. This approach makes you passive and needy, and gets you off to the wrong start even if you get the job because you had to 'grovel' to get it. And not finding a job this way makes you feel hopeless and un-chosen, so it is bad for your self-respect.

A better way would be to think about what you would want to spend all day doing, what kind of environment, how much routine and how much action, what skills you'd like to develop better and better, then look around for a place that fits that image. Volunteer there if you have to but just get started doing it. Having a strong intent and maintaining it will gradually end up paying off (supporting you). There is a line in a poem that says, "Having put yourself on the way, it was inevitable that you would reach here". So this is about putting yourself on the way to a destination of your choosing.

In other word, you have something to give to the world so you do not need the world to give you a job. The problem with finding just any ole job is that if it doesn't really fit for you, you end up as miserable as you were when you were jobless except now you are locked into a situation that is hard to maneuver from.
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I've been unemployed for over a year,

I'm seriously entertaining the idea of buying a log cabin somewhere in the woods.

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you've enough $ to buy a log cabin? even though no work for a year? wtf you complaining about asshat?
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Keeping a balanced diet of experiences and looking at the bigger picture centers me. This adventure is endless, and yours, and only limited by you.

We are all in this together. hf
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.

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I know how you feel....this is a difficult country to be in right now...but, its up to us to make it a better one...if you
Do something for your community. Volunteer somewhere. its a great place to make NEW Contacts and pretty good people at that.
I personally moved to a new city states away not knowing a soul 3.5 years ago. I had to "Find a Passion" and start building. I found "The Campaign to create a Department of Peace" well, along this path, I have made friends and contacts. Im helping put together a conference with Dennis Kucinich and Marianne Williamson . Im meeting people around the whole state now.....MAYBE, IF I DO A REALLY GOOD JOB..I WILL FIND A REALLY GOOD JOB....and im making the world a better place for YOU and ME. Its better than just sitting around.

And Sometimes...I just reach for the Whiskey!

Dont let them get you down....keep up the good fight!
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Once upon a time Khidr, the teacher of Moses, called upon mankind with a warning. At a certain date, he said, all the water in the world which had not been specially hoarded, would disappear. It would then be renewed, with different water, which would drive men mad.
Only one man listened to the meaning of this advice. He collected water and went to a secure place where he stored it, and waited for the water to change its character.
On the appointed date the streams stopped running, the wells went dry, and the man who had listened, seeing this happening, went to his retreat and drank his preserved water.
When he saw, from his security, the waterfalls again beginning to flow, this man descended among the other sons of men. He found that they were thinking and talking in an entirely different way from before; yet they had no memory of what had happened, nor of having been warned. When he tried to talk to them, he realized that they thought that he was mad, and they showed hostility or compassion, not understanding.
At first, he drank none of the new water, but went back to his concealment, to draw on his supplies, every day. Finally, however, he took the decision to drink the new water because he could not bear the loneliness of living, behaving and thinking in a different way from everyone else. He drank the new water, and became like the rest. Then he forgot all about his own store of special water, and his fellows began to look upon him as a madman who had miraculously been restored to sanity.


Thanks for sharing this. I've been through that a couple of times. It feels like I'm going through it again on an extreme level. Maybe I'm better off joining some type of commune. As long as they have internet access, then I really don't mind.
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I actually googled communes yesterday and am considering the same idea. There is one in rural Virginia that you can schedule a 3 week visit to see if you like it and if they like you enough to be considered to live there among them.
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How else can one stay sane in a collapsing world? It's clear that's what's happening. The foundations that made the Feds function are being pulled from under them from catastrophes they did not see happening. Society is collapsing whether they know it or not. Sadly, most don't seem to be aware at all and they all conform to their dysfunctional trivialities, masturbating to their own short lived fantasies. In other words, they choose to live in denial.

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OPie, I appreciate your rant. You're entirely correct, of course.

We are at the end of a cycle; a very long cycle. A 3660 year cycle to be precise. Civilization will fall apart and a new Dark Age is coming repleat with massive death and global destruction.

What can you do? At your age, you are involved in the world -- to save it and sculpt it and create a place for yourself. It must be very disappointing understanding that, for example, in America the total debt (on the books and in unfunded liabilities, etc. exceeds $72 trillion dollars) is huge. It is scary to see all the volcanoes, quakes, tsunamis, floods, etc. as Mother Nature is disturbed by the 3660 year cycle event. You are like Noah... you know it is coming, you are awaiting instructions on what to do; do you build an ark or what?

This 3660-year cycle is also an opportunity and this is how you should look at it. There is coming a MAJOR CHANGE and anybody not prepared for that change is going to die. Your task is to build your ark -- now that does not necessarily mean literally; there are may ways to "build your ark." It may be in your relentless education of those you love around you; it may be a tireless preparation of your own soul to weather the coming storm, i.e., you become the Wizard/Sage/Priest. You may choose to organize an army of similar-minded people to have a full regiment of brown-shirts or black-shirts or green-shirts; you may become the Fuhrer/Leader/General/Military. You may choose to become a politician to effect what you can the changes you believe necessary for the people at the local, state, or national level; you may become the King/Senator/Governor. You may choose to become the Scribe and write the events of the 3660-cycle change and save them in some form or other that can withstand profound environmental abuse and retain the information so that in millennium in the future, your message will speak to those who must encounter a subsequent 3660-year cycle. You might become the Sage/Scientist and pick a particular area and become the specialist -- for example, the New Madrid Fault in southern Missouri and Tennessee... when will it go; how will it go; what of the 3660-year cycle and its effect on the fault and how will the earthchanges there play themselves out. Finally, you may choose to become the Jester... to bring happiness and laughter to a world that is dying just so it can go happily into the night with a laugh instead of a whimper.

You may be any or all of these things.

What you do NOT want to do is to be depressed and feel hopeless.

Every crisis is an opportunity; every end is a beginning. Every despair is, in fact, a hope.

Peace, son.

Via con Dios, Amigo!
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Once upon a time Khidr, the teacher of Moses, called upon mankind with a warning. At a certain date, he said, all the water in the world which had not been specially hoarded, would disappear. It would then be renewed, with different water, which would drive men mad.
Only one man listened to the meaning of this advice. He collected water and went to a secure place where he stored it, and waited for the water to change its character.
On the appointed date the streams stopped running, the wells went dry, and the man who had listened, seeing this happening, went to his retreat and drank his preserved water.
When he saw, from his security, the waterfalls again beginning to flow, this man descended among the other sons of men. He found that they were thinking and talking in an entirely different way from before; yet they had no memory of what had happened, nor of having been warned. When he tried to talk to them, he realized that they thought that he was mad, and they showed hostility or compassion, not understanding.
At first, he drank none of the new water, but went back to his concealment, to draw on his supplies, every day. Finally, however, he took the decision to drink the new water because he could not bear the loneliness of living, behaving and thinking in a different way from everyone else. He drank the new water, and became like the rest. Then he forgot all about his own store of special water, and his fellows began to look upon him as a madman who had miraculously been restored to sanity.
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the problem is, in real life, there is no magic water that makes us forget what we have learned.
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Thought you would enjoy this OP

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That was a great post 168100.
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I don't know but I can say I am having a hard time. I wonder at the pointless struggle of it all.
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From ED TV (1999)

I feel that Ed (TV) is the apotheosis of a prevailing American syndrome. It used to be that someone became famous because they were special. Now people are considered special just for being famous. Fame, itself, is now a moral good in this country. It's its own virtue.
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Keeping a balanced diet of experiences and looking at the bigger picture centers me. This adventure is endless, and yours, and only limited by you.

We are all in this together. hf
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hf

Do something for your community. Volunteer somewhere.
 Quoting: peacegardener 955050


Yeah, you're right. When I had the money, I used to donate to various charities. But the way things are now, it'd be better to get out there physically and volunteer for any help they might need. I'll have to take a look around.

I actually googled communes yesterday and am considering the same idea. There is one in rural Virginia that you can schedule a 3 week visit to see if you like it and if they like you enough to be considered to live there among them.
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A 3 week stay is pretty nice of them. Unfortunately, Virginia is a bit far for me as I reside in New England.

We are at the end of a cycle; a very long cycle. A 3660 year cycle to be precise. Civilization will fall apart and a new Dark Age is coming repleat with massive death and global destruction.

What you do NOT want to do is to be depressed and feel hopeless.

Every crisis is an opportunity; every end is a beginning. Every despair is, in fact, a hope.

Peace, son.

Via con Dios, Amigo!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 903516


Yeah, the cycle is coming to an end. In my past time, I've been trying to grow as a spiritual individual and to prepare myself for such an event. But you're right. I can't let the collapsing social matrix of our society depress me. I know I'm useful to the world. As far as roles go, I've thought about doing several things, including becoming a scribe, jester, and a bit of the wizard as well. I just need to have more faith in myself and the fact that I can do all of this. Thank you.

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Keep the faith bubbie.

I threw out the self absorbed and congenital liars out of my life and I feel fine. Someone once said on this forum that friends are a juvenile need, maybe so. If you want to be a true friend of mine you'll need to be willing to take a bullet for me, otherwise you are an acquaintance at best.
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Once upon a time Khidr, the teacher of Moses, called upon mankind with a warning. At a certain date, he said, all the water in the world which had not been specially hoarded, would disappear. It would then be renewed, with different water, which would drive men mad.
Only one man listened to the meaning of this advice. He collected water and went to a secure place where he stored it, and waited for the water to change its character.
On the appointed date the streams stopped running, the wells went dry, and the man who had listened, seeing this happening, went to his retreat and drank his preserved water.
When he saw, from his security, the waterfalls again beginning to flow, this man descended among the other sons of men. He found that they were thinking and talking in an entirely different way from before; yet they had no memory of what had happened, nor of having been warned. When he tried to talk to them, he realized that they thought that he was mad, and they showed hostility or compassion, not understanding.
At first, he drank none of the new water, but went back to his concealment, to draw on his supplies, every day. Finally, however, he took the decision to drink the new water because he could not bear the loneliness of living, behaving and thinking in a different way from everyone else. He drank the new water, and became like the rest. Then he forgot all about his own store of special water, and his fellows began to look upon him as a madman who had miraculously been restored to sanity.



the problem is, in real life, there is no magic water that makes us forget what we have learned.
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i feel the point is not about magic water but that this is an old old situation....

this is a centuries old tale written in the 1200's i believe. it's persian.


i believe the solution to be different for every individual....how we unlearn is our tao.

it's nice to know that we are not alone in this particular phenomenon and the stories posted attempt illustrate that.

this too shall pass

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