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Kami Lion
05/05/2005 10:15 AM
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Right to drive or granted privledge?
from AntiShyster, Volume 3, Number 4

"Reprinted with permission from the AntiShyster, POB 540786, Dallas,
Texas, 75354-0786, or call (214) 559-7957 - annual subscription
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Note to a friend with new car fever

TAX, TITLE, LICENSE, and DECEIT

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| First, I misplaced the name of the author of the following letter. |
|If he would like proper credit, please contact me and Iīll do so |
|in a future issue of the AntiShyster. |
| |
| Second, although this letter argues that you donīt really own your |
|car, the issue is much larger. The real implication of theis article|
|(and legal reform, in general) is that our government operates |
|through deceit and deception. No news in that; most of us take it |
|for granted that the upper eschelons of government _occassionally_ |
|lie, cheat, and violate the Constitution. |
| |
| But most of us donīt realize that government deception may be so |
|common itīs now become "institutionalized". In short, deception may |
|not only be used "occassionally" to fool the public, but rather, has|
|become a foundation of government, an essential feature without |
|which, government would collapse. |
| |
| If itīs true that the State owns your car, then not _one_ state |
|in fifty is treating its people honestly, not _one_ governor, |
|legislator, or bureaucrat in this entire country is telling the |
|public the truth about "tax, title, and license". |
| |
| Whether or not you own your car is unimportant compared to the |
|larger questions of whether you stil [sic] "own" your government, or|
|whether your government now "owns" you. |
| |
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Dear John:

Last time we talked I mentioned some research I was doing into the
Texas Motor Vehicle codes. I also mentioned that I surmised that we
actually donīt own our cars. I will attempt to cover some of my
results for your own information.

This discussion needs to start with the term "title". There are three
aspects to title: possession, right to possession, and ownership. If
the owner has the right to possess and actually possesses, he has
"perfect title".

When a new car is manufactured, two documents are generated: an
invoice and the Manufacturers Statement of Origin, or MSO (sometimes
called Manufacturers Certificate of Origin). These two documents are
available to the purchaser if he chooses to perform the transaction
at the place of manufacture. Otherwise, they are shlpped to the local
automobile dealer with the car.

All dealers recognize the MSO as the ACTUAL TITLE to the car. When we
purchase a new car the initial registration with the state (tax, title,
and license) involves sending the MSO plus what is called the "white
sheet" to the Texas Department of Highways, Motor Vehicle Division,
Austin, TX. The "white sheet" has the seller, buyer, and lien-holder
information. Upon registration we are issued a TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE
OF TITLE to a MOTOR VEHICLE. When we satisfy the lien (pay off the
car loan to the bank), instead of receiving the MSO (actual title)
we are issued an ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE OF TITLE to a MOTOR VEHICLE.
However, the state retains *higher* title and tus ultimate control
of our property, the car.

On both temporary and original Certificates of Title we find the
following:

"The State Department of Highways and Public Transportation
certifies that the applicant herein named has been duly
registered in the office of the Department AS the LAWFUL
OWNER of the motor vehicle described below." (My emphasis)

This is a legal document and like all legal documents the definition
of the words are critical to its understanding. We will use Blackīs
Law Dictionary (which is the most accepted) to discover the real
meaning of the previous statement.

Most people think they are buying cars. However, the word "car" is
not found on the certificate. Car is not a legal term. "Vehicle" is:

VEHICLE: Term refers to every device in, upon, or by which
a person or property is or may be _transported_ upon
a _highway_.

TRANSPORTATION: The movement of goods or persons from one place
to another, by a _carrier_.

CARRIER: Individual or organization in transporting passengers
or goods for _hire_.

HIGHWAY; PUBLIC HIGHWAY: One under the CONTROL OF and maintained
by public authorities for the use of the
general public.

Thus, by definition, a "vehicle" (not a "car") is a device _for hire_
that is involved in moving goods or persons on a public highway. (More
about "for hire" later.)

CERTIFICATE OF TITLE: see Insurance (Title Insurance.)

TITLE INSURANCE: A "certificate of title" furnished by a company
is merely the formally expressed professional
opinion of the companyīs examiner that a title
is complete and perfect...

In other words, a "certificate of title" is simply a formal expression
of the fact that a second document (the original title) does exist.
Sure, we know this to be true because the Manufacturerīs Statement of
Origin (MSO) is the ACTUAL TITLE. The State merely certifies that, yes,
the title does exist and they are qualified to certify that it does
exist because _they have it_ !

The statement on the Certificate Of Title further _qualifies_ the
_type_ of ownership you are granted as being "lawful".

LAWFUL: Legal; warranted or authorized by law; having the
qualifications perscribed by law; not contrary to
nor forbidden by the law.

Qualifications of ownership are important and include "actual", equitable,
"general", "joint", "lawful", "part", "record", "reputed", "riparian", etc.
Ownership is also either "absolute" or "qualified". In other words, either
we have "absolute ownership" of our property as the ACTUAL owner, or we have
"qualified ownership" because someone else restricts or limits the enjoy-
ment of our property.

The statement on the certificate of title tells us that we are the
_lawful_ owner of the vehicle. It also tells us who the _actual_ owner
is -- the State of Texas. The _title_ we expected to receive for our
car turns out to be a _certificate of title_ for THEIR motor vehicle. We
have been given the privilege of _lawful_ ownership of the Stateīs
vehicle and we are paying for it in more ways than one.

If by now you donīt understand the direction Iīm goiong, re-read the
beginning. If you donīt or are unwilling to believe it, ask your lawyer.
Ask him about the qualifications of ownership in relationship to your
certificate of title. If they are honest theyīll admit that this is
common knowledge among their profession.

Upon _registration_ (which is a contract between us and the state), we
voluntarily relinquish our own private ownership (actual title or MSO)
and accept the terms of _commercial_ regulation by the state.

LICENSE

In order to drive this vehicle we must have a "license".

LICENSE: The permission by competent authority to do an act which,
without permission, would be _illegal_, a trespass, a tort.

According to Blackīs Law dictionary, it would be a trespass for us to
unlawfully interfere with anotherīs property or rights to property. There-
fore, it would be a trespass for us to drive a vehicle owned by someone
else (the state, for example) without the ownerīs permission. Thatīs why
the state requires us to apply for and secure a permit to use _their
property_ (that is, the automobile you drive and believe is your own) and
even require us to take a test to prove our competency to drive _their_
vehicle. In short, the state says we must have a "driverīs" license.

DRIVERīS LICENSE: The certificate issued by a state which authorizes
a person to operate a motor vehicle. Generally,
a written and driving examination is required for
obtaining such.


When you pass your driving exam, the state blesses you with the privilege
of becoming a "driver" and issues you a "driverīs license". Remember when
they were called an "operatorīs license" ? "Operator" is NOT a legal term.
"Driver" is.

Take out your driverīs license. What class are you ? Most are Class C.
This entitles you, the "driver", to drive a bus that carries less than
24 passengers.

PASSENGER: In general, a "passenger" is one who gives compensation
for a ride.

Do you drive a "passenger" car ? If you do, itīs "commercial".

DRIVER: A person actually doing driving, whether _employed_ by
owner to drive or driving his own vehicle.

Remember the definition of "vehicle" involved the term "for hire" ? Again,
we see a hint of this in the previous definition. This is not by mistake,
but by plan. The state has legitimate constitutional power to regulate
_commercial_ activities since you are generating a financial "profit" from
the use of a facility (the highway) paid for by the state.

COMMERCE

The state has established volumes of statutes regulating the use of _their_
vehicles under the "traffic" codes.

TRAFFIC: _Commerce_; trade; sale or exchange of merchandise, bills,
money, and the like. The passing of goods or commodities
from one person to another for an equivalent in goods or
money.

The state has even created and established an executive branch of the
government to enforce these regulations (Department of Public Safety). They
require us to maintain _their_ vehicle to their standards (State inspection)
and lest we forget, they require us to put the ownerīs name (State of Texas),
on the front and back of their car (Texas license plates). They even re-
inforce this with radio and TV commercials. A spokesperson for the TDPS says,
"... and remember, _driving_ is a "privilege" and NOT a right in the State of
Texas>" [ emph. add.]

PRIVILEGE: A particular and peculiar benefit or advantage enjoyed by a
person, company or calss, beyond the common advantages of
other citizens.

Simply put, we voluntarily ask for a "driverīs license" and are granted
that "privilege" by the state -- but on _their_ terms.

DISPOSAL

If you still think that you own your car, try to dispose of it. The State
Department of Highways and Public Transportation has a form [#DMV71-2
Rev 4-87, commonly known as Certificate of Authority (COA)] that is an
Application for Authority to Dispose of a Motor Vehicle to a Demolisher.

"This application may be used only to _apply for_ authority to
dispose of a motor vehicle which has been found abandoned on the
property of the applicant OR a motor vehicle to which the applicantīs
title certificate is faulty, lost, or destroyed. Application must be
for authority to dispose of such vehicle to a demolisher for
demolition, wrecking, or dismantling only."

This apparently takes the place of a valid "certificate of title". The
salvage yards require either the cretificate of title or the COA to dispose
of the vehicle (i.e., removal from vehicular service). Several calls to
salvage yards confirmed a weekly pickup schedule by the DMV for certificates
and COAīs.

The perjury statement at the bottom of the COA is revealing:

"I, the undersigned, certify that the facts contained herein are
true and that no material fact has been withheld. I further state
that I am hereby applying for authority to sell the above described
motor vehicle to a demolisher for demolition, wrecking, or dismantling
only and that I understand that the vehicle is not to be reconstructed,
made operable, or _re-titled_. My emphasis)

Again, the COA provides an inference as to the real owner of "your"
vehicle. Why should we askthe state for permission to dispose of our trash ?
Because we donīt own it. The state has higher title and actual ownership of
the our car.

Also notice that the signee must understand that the vehicle is NOT to be
reconstructed, mader operative or _re-titled_. Notice it doesnīt say "re-
certified" (with a new Certificate of Title) and for good reason: the state
has a vested interest in controlling their property. It wouldnīt do for John
Q. Private to remove three fenders from his "Ford" vehicle, ask for and be
granted authority to demolish and remove the vehicle from vehicular service
(cancel the original MSO/title) and then "remake" his vehicle by re-bolting
on the fenders of his car. Once the stateīs original MSO/title was cancelled,
John Q. might call his reconstructed car a "Drof" he might draft his own
Manufacturerīs Statement of Origin and thereby create his own, legitimate
title to his car, and thereby escape any state-imposed obligation to license,
register, or maintian _his_ car according to the stateīs commercial
standards.

Results ? 1) The stateīs income would diminish if they lost their authority
to tax John Q. for the various licenses, registrations, safety inspections,
insurance, etc. and 2) the stateīs lawful authority to restrict and ticket
(tax) John Q.īs activities on the highways would also be seriously
diminished.

However, if John Q. could cancel the Stateīs MSO/title to his car, "re-
construct" his car, and then create his own new Title, he would have the
three parts of _perfect_ title: possession, right to possession, and
ownership. There is NO higher title. Then, John Q. would not be required to
register with the state unless he used his car in "commerce". He would no
longer be subject to vehicular State Inspection, nor vehicular personal
property taxes He wouldnīt need vehicular "tags" (since he would be the
actual owner!) and he wouldnīt need the stateīs permission (a driverīs
license) to _travel_ (which is a constitutional right, as opposed to "drive"
which a state-granted privilege) in his car. He would no longer be subject
to the traffic codes (unless he engaged in "commerce").

However, whenever the State cancels a "certificate of title", the
Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) files are updated to reflect removal of
that vehicle from vehicular service. Legally, it it no longer a "vehicle".
It has been removed from commerce and is now a "car", but you _still do not
own it_. The state holds title forever -- even to the parts !

Is it possible for a person to junk his own car ? Harold Wiesenhutter of the
DMV, Austin, related one could dispose of his own vehicle if: 1( the lawful
owner sends a letter explaining the situation (using car to top erosion in
a ravine, etc.) and 2) one includes the Certificate of Title in the request.
The Certificate must be the original and NO copies. THis action confirms
that the "lawful ownership" you asked for and were granted by the state
(your permit to possess the vehicle) is returned to the state. Simply, the
state has the authority to legally control the disposal of their vehicle.

"So what", you say ? Itīs a scam. WHy should you buy a car _for them_ ?
Why spend 15,000 Federal Reserve Notes, plus interest, on someone elseīs
property ? Thatīs a lot of bucks to pay for buttons, gadgets, and new
paint for something that sod for 532.00 silver dollars and performed the
same function in 1932.

Save your "money," buy a junker, and with what you save, run for office,
or support someone running who would like to see this mess fixed.

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My comment, if we continue to allow this type of theft by the state we deserve to be killed or enslaved - or worse.
REAL Dave
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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in my eyes, it is a RIGHT until someone does something criminal to have that right taken away.

people need to stop thinking that the state grants us priveleges. wonīt happen, but it needs to stop.

dave
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A "Right" cannot be given or taken away. You are born with them. When you apply for a driverīs licence you are in fact waiving your right to travel freely and asking/begging for the priveledge to drive. A īdriverī is a "person" = corporation. Once you sign a driverīs licence you agree to everything written within the highway traffic act. Thatīs the reason it is so difficult to īwinī a traffic ticket. You said you agreed!!!
idol harobed
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Driving is a life threatening activity, thus it must be granted.

My fiancéīs uncle owns a small helicopter, this means that it is his wealth only and does not mean he has the right to take it to the air, so he hires a pilot that is someone trained and responsible for anything that might happen upon its usage. The other option is to get a piloting license.
captain obvious
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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All true.

A new process has recently been formulated to deal with the fraud constructors.

All public servants have taken an oath of office in which they swear that they will protect and defend the constitution which clearly states that we cannot be deprived of life, liberty or process without due process. But our constitutional rights are routinely ignored. Why?

Because we are not dealing with a lawful government, but rather a bankrupt corporation run by a trust. So laws are irrelevant (other than if we have done intentional damage to person or property, in other words, committed a real crime)IF we realize that the only way that the corporation can deal with us is through contracts.

The oath of office is an offer of contract (designed to trick us into thinking we are still under constitutional law) BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE IT BINDING ON THEM, we must ACCEPT THEIR OFFER.

So if you are stopped by an officer (remember, you are entitled not to have your liberty interfered with unless you have committed a crime), verbally accept his/her oath of office and call him/her as a witness. If you sign the ticket, YOU HAVE JUST ENTERED A CONTRACT AND GIVEN UP YOUR RIGHTS. (contracts supercede the constitution).

The officer most likely wonīt know what youīre talking about, so they will take you in front of a JP/judge. This person knows. Repeat the process with him/her.

If you donīt sign or agree with what they do, you should be released, but they may attempt to threaten you with jail, so donīt try this process if you are timid.
Kami Lion
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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"When you apply for a driverīs licence you are in fact waiving your right to travel freely and asking/begging for the priveledge to drive."

That sounds good but is in fact quite wrong. READ WHAT I POSTED and donīt respond again until you do.

"A īdriverī is a "person" = corporation."

Wrong again. An operator is equal to a corporate creation. A driver is a driver but an operator is conducting a commercial business by his or her use of the roadways.

"Once you sign a driverīs licence you agree to everything written within the highway traffic act. Thatīs the reason it is so difficult to īwinī a traffic ticket."

That may sound good and it may even be shomewhat true, but if you do not "sign oneī and you are caught behind the steeringwheel of a car your ass is going to jail. That would be because of what is called an invisible contract that the court recognizes and you do not.

The process of ticketing someone who does not use an oporators license is through the theft of the vehicle or car before you ever buy it from the car dealer. The state owns the car you drive and because you rent it from them they control itīs use under both the police powers of the state and the general welfare of the public.

The MSO (Manufacturers Statement of Origin) also known as the Manufacturers Certificate of Origin, is the true title to the car you īthinkī you own. But you do not have it not can you get it. It is sent to the state DMV when the car is shipped to the auto dealer from the manufacturer. The state micro-films it and it is then immediately destroyed. The microfilm is later used to print what you have in your posession called a Certificate of Title. Ever wonder why you have to get the certificate from the state when you did not purchase the thing from the state? Well it is quite simply that you did in fact purchase it from the state.

I shouldnīt have to tell you that a certificate of title is not the title it is a certificate of, should I?

Car ownership is one of the biggest thefts thatīs ever been allowed to exist in the states of America.

Keep sleeping.
captain obvious
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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4th line should read "...cannot be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process...."
captain obvious
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All registrations and driverīs licenses have your name printed in capital letters (the corporate entity that they created at your birth), so if you want to protect your rights but donīt want to take the time to fight the system, precede your signature on ALL documents that have your name in all capital letters with "without prejudice, all rights reserved" ot "UCC 1-207" (both have equal power).

All contracts the "government" made with you are fraudulent because they have not given full disclosure, so are not enforceable IF you protest and give lack of full disclosure as the reason.
captain obvious
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By the way, the same principle applies to your real property.

You donīt get a deed, you get a deed of trust or some such instrument, and the state or the title company is the trustee.

Itīs still fraudulent because they have not given you full disclosure.

If you think this is interesting, wait until you find out whatīs happening in the banking industry!
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Does a blind person have a right to drive?

If you have a right to drive, why doesnīt a blind person have that right?
Anonymous Coward
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BTW, with regard to ownership of the car, you are perfectly free to do anything you want to the car as long as you keep it in your driveway.

If you view the licensing process as restrictive, the only restriction is that you are not allowed to drive on roads paid for by the community. Since the community paid for the roads, it seems reasonable that the community has the right to determine who will drive on the roads.

I bet that if you go out and build a road on your own property that you can drive on that road without a driverīs license.
Sireen
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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IMHO, Itīs a privledge (damn spelling) that must be earned. There are TOO MANY out there that drive (because they believe itīs their right) that are hazardous to themselves and those around them. Rather itīs young teens who lack experience or older folks who lack response time to any given unpredictable situation.
Dr P
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Some people donīt have enough to do. And then there are cretins like Davey and Capt. Obviously Half-Witted...
captain obvious
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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12881, iīd like to speak to your "community".

could you please tell me its phone number?

my point, donīt the people make up the community?

Communities donīt have rights, they have agreements. People have rights and PAY THE BILLS.

Roads are paid for by people, not by the community.
captain obvious
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Thank you for your opinion Dr. P, who in your own words have stated that your work involves finding more and better ways to kill masses of people more efficiently.

If there is a side of darkness and a side of light, which side does that put you on?

Also, does that mean that the reason you speak against me is because you are for death and destruction and the lies and control that are required to support it while I speak for freedom, fairness and truth,

It is common sense that in order to have a free society, people have to be responsible. On the other hand, in a totally controlled society, everybody would have to be strapped to their beds because if they were allowed freedom to move, they might injure someone else.

A crime is defined in common law as intentional injury to person or property. If you have not committed a crime and there is not a reasonable claim with supporting evidence that you have done so, the authorities have no right UNDER THE CONSTITUTION to detain you.
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12881, iïŋ―d like to speak to your "community".

could you please tell me its phone number?

my point, donïŋ―t the people make up the community?

Communities donïŋ―t have rights, they have agreements. People have rights and PAY THE BILLS.

Roads are paid for by people, not by the community.

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You are absolutely correct. And in the community that I live in, people have agreed that certain people should not be allowed to drive, and that passing a various tests and paying a fee is necessary in order to get a license. The people of the community decided this.

(By the way, in my community the phone number to call is 311. They are very responsive.)

I notice that you didnīt answer my question about whether a blind person has a right to drive. Unless you would like to envision yourself driving on the highway with a bunch of blind people, it is clear that there is no such thing as a "right to drive."
captain obvious
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Also, Dr. P, I have a question.

Is business a little slow in the mass killing equipment field these days? For someone who has a regular "job", you seem to spend a lot of time on GLP.
Dr P
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Actually, Capt. Obviously Half-Witted, the reason I "speak against" you is that youīre ignorant and irrational.

And yes, killing people and blowing things up is my business (or part of it, at least), and I flatter myself that Iīm good at it.
captain obvious
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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12881, do you have any common sense?

Do a person have the right to let their small child cross a busy road unassisted or leave them unattended in a hot car with the windows closed for a long period? They can do it, but only a stupid person would do it.

Itīs a stupid question.
captain obvious
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Also, 12881, Iīll bet you 100 dollars that you cannot get an official of your "community" to sign a statement under penalties of perjury that he/she is a representative of the lawful government of your state.

That is part of what the original post and my comments are about.

Lawful government has not existed in the US since 1933. We are regulated by a bankrupt corpate structure masquerading as a government.

I am in favor of lawful government. I am against lies, deceit and fraud.
Interdimensional warrior
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Communities are made up of people that pay for the roads with taxes.
The Masonic-Zionist occupational Government is a parasitic disease, growing with each day.

Insurance laws were enacted forcing people to pay what is essentially extortion, with threat.
These laws were lobbied by insurance companies who payed the politicians well for thier vote.
Lobbying is the same as "kickback".

Under the Bill of Rights a person has the right to travel without restrictions, period.
The wording is clear and explicit.
This is why if you place an "in transit" sign on your car, you can procede without registration or licensing without being ticketed.The state you reside in requires you register your vehicle and buy liability insurance, as well as go through a licensing procedure.
If you are out of your resident state, it is no violation or crime to drive without a license, insurance or registration. If you travel the interstate highways often you have surely noticed a large number of vehicles without license plates.
Only proof of ownership of the vehicle in the form of a bill of sale is required to meet your legal responsibilities while engaged in interstate travel.

It is claimed the state owns your vehicle. This is not suprizing , considering they also believe they own you, and your children.

The time has come to shake off these bloodsuckers, to utilize the prisons they have built for us to house them.

It has reached the point where the people actually producing can no longer support the extravagance of the elite and thier blossoming "government".
The government does not legally grant the people "priveledges".
There are no priveledges granted by government in a free society, not one.
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I design infrastucture for a living. My collegues and I have been talking about the plan afoot to turn freeways into toll roads. In my state, the politicians have taken the gas tax monies that were going to highway building and maintenance and now there is no money for that.

So hereīs the problem: how do you provide a toll system that is equitable to all users? How do you keep the politicians hands out of the till? And, how do you prevent people who drive for a living from going out of business?

If these problems can be solved, then repeal the gas tax, otherwise the users will be double-taxed by toll roads. And yes, infrastructure of any type is a priviledge, not a īrightī. Resources are not a īrightī, they are a need that all species on this planet have in common, and no one can claim ownership. But thatīs another topic, although related to this one.
captain obvious
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Dr. P, I rest my case. Your own words prove what you are, and so I ignore any point that you make since it could not have any relevance other than to prove your lack of character.

At any time, you can leave the dark path and choose Light instead. The choice is yours.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Our "National Treasure" is actually 7 trillion dollars worth of debt owed to lord Rothschild and associates.

Our futures and those of our children have been pawned by our government.

We are the property of our governments creditors.
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The Minutemen have shown the way to create honesty in government; observation by impartial men and women. That way the lies and deceit could not continue.
Dr P
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Interesting fantasy about how to avoid the bother of procuring a driverīs license, Incredible Dim Wit 93. It would be amusing to see you try it out.
captain obvious
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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The right to not be deprived of liberty includes travel and the supreme court has so stated, if you know how to demand, access and maintain that right.

The fake governments cannot control those that understand how to keep them at bay, at least until they are willing to go beyond the present willingness to abide by the fraudulent contracts they have created and bring in the jack booted thugs.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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damn do you guys see how this parallels things in the relatively īinnerī?? Ahahahahahah. Am I going crazy or What. Trust has been replaced with substance exchange but in the end it is a trust funding. ahhh... forget it.
Dr P
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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When do you plan to try out your theory, Capt. Obviously Half-Witted? I hope youīll be allowed occasional access to GLP while youīre in the jug!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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trust love justice and all that. Man, fuck, I am not crazy I have thought about these things for a long time just.. for newcomers, haveing a certain conditioning and etc. Fuck the illuminati.
Interdimensional warrior
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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DrP.(duncan kunz)I know exactly who you are , where you are, and where you intend to escape to. One day I will be present and testify against you at your trial .You are bieng watched continuously and you WILL NOT ESCAPE justice.

You are are a traitor and a criminal who is involved in crimes against me personally and a conspirator against the free republic and the people who make it up. The conspiracy you are involved in is failing. You think you are in a position where you are untouchable, but millions like me are poised and ready to take this country back and restore it to its former freedom and justice.

Consider it a promise.....

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