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Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate!

 
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Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate!
You won't believe this. This is no joke. I'm speechless as I write this.

The whole Moon Hoax Debate, which I thought had died off long ago, has been revived by this young genius from Australia who has been kicking butt against astronomers appointed by NASA to debate the moon hoaxers such as Phil Plait of www.badastronomy.com, Jay Windley, the Mythbusters program, and other "NASA Propagandists" as he calls them.

This kid is something you have to see to believe. He calls himself Jarrah White. He looks only about 25 or so, yet he's the best debater I've ever seen. His arguments and reasoning are so thorough and scholarly. Everything he says is sourced and documented. He has documents on everything, even stuff from the 60's. He even performs scientific experiments, when he can, to back up and illustrate his argument, showing and explaining each step to the viewer. Therefore, he doesn't just make arguments, he SHOWS you the scientific facts and results through experiments right in front of you, either by him, or by others.

In doing so, he has unmasked critical errors and omissions of Phil Plait, the Mythbusters, and others. It's absolutely brilliant. I'm astounded by it. I've never seen a young guy who was so thorough and logical. His videos all look very professionally produced and his presentation is very professional as well. It's something you have to see to believe.

Here is his YouTube Channel. He has like over 300 videos now. His video series is called MoonFaker.

[link to www.youtube.com]


Check out this 3 part segment where he shows an untouched flag waving on the moon, where there is no air. Then he cites the Lunar Journal's 6 speculative explanations for the moving flag and debunks them all, with simple experiments, precendents and deduction.

MoonFaker: The Flags are Alive




And here he shows you EXACTLY WHY the Lunar Module on the moon must have had a blast crater under it, contrary to NASA defenders' explanations to the contrary. All the math, science and documented experiments by NASA and other organizations is shown to you in full detail, in a five part video series.

MoonFaker - No Crater




In this one, he gets to the bottom of the debate about whether the "C" rock in a moon photo right next to the "C" on the ground, is an original or the same photo with the "C" airbrushed out is, and whether it is a piece of hair or a marker. By simple research and deduction, Jarrah White shows that the NASA defenders are wrong and supporting an obvious cover up.

MoonFaker - Rocks and Crocks




In this funny one, he explains how in theory the astronauts should have been able to jump 14 feet in the air, according to NASA's calculations, yet the Apollo astronauts usually only jumped 20 inches off the ground, and why NASA's defenders' explanations for this do not fit.

MoonFaker - One Giant Leap




Here's another thoroughly researched one. Here he takes some famous photographs with lighting oddities and performs tedious experiments to see if NASA defenders' explanations hold up. In it, he even exposes deceit and factual errors by the Mythbusters program.

MoonFaker - Reflect on this




There's more at his channel, including many videos dissecting and scrutinizing the recent LRO aerial photos of the moon, which seem to be far less accurate than even Google Earth is.

LRO Series
[link to www.youtube.com]



The only folks who won't like these videos are the establishment defenders who mistakenly believe that "authority = truth" and worship "status quo and orthodoxy" as their Lord and God, and believe that "critical thinking" can never be used against establishment or orthodoxy, only against those who would challenge it.

Remember folks, a true skeptic is willing to challenge authority and orthodoxy, and apply his critical thinking and skepticism in that direction. Those who absolutely cannot are not skeptics, they are establishment defenders. Randi, Shermer, CSICOP, the BadAstronomy.com folks, the Mythbusters, Penn and Teller, and the skeptics on my SCEPCOP forum are establishment defenders, not true skeptics.

These establishment defenders were taught in high school that "authority = truth" and therefore is never to be questioned, and that doing and believing what you're told leads to reward, while the opposite leads to punishment. They are unable to free themselves of their programming and conditioning, so in that sense, they are not "freethinkers".
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Whip it!

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Whip it good.
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Too right mate. Takes an Aussie to debunk this! Just kidding.. Good one anyways!
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Another nail in the coffin to bury the NASA lies.

Those astronauts that participated in the fraud should come forward and just admit it. It's like the baseball players that were using steroids and hitting all the home runs, it was obvious that they had bulked up and were banging the ball harder than normal, yet they denied using steroids, they got no respect because the people knew they were lying, later in life they finally admitted to it. Same now for the astronauts, they are no heroes, they are a bunch of liars and part of a massive fraud upon the people.
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australians can bust through bullshit better than anyone
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bump
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In this funny one, he explains how in theory the astronauts should have been able to jump 14 feet in the air, according to NASA's calculations, yet the Apollo astronauts usually only jumped 20 inches off the ground, and why NASA's defenders' explanations for this do not fit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 956791

Only a few years before Apollo 11, NASA propagandists were predicting that lunar astronauts would be performing amazing acrobatics.
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Some NASA fanboys simply get delusional and make up lies:

[link to windows2universe.org]
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Because of its smaller size, the Moon's gravity is one-sixth of the Earth's gravity, as we saw demonstrated by the giant leaps of the Apollo astronauts.
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What giant leaps?
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The Brits tell the same lie:

[link to www.primaryresources.co.uk]
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When the American astronauts landed on the moon in 1969, they could leap and jump higher and more easily than on the Earth because the pull of gravity was less strong.
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No, they couldn't.
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lol

yeah, a little kid's video

about the best source of information i have seen on here or u tube

the op must be, what? can't read books? didn't go to college? just stupid?
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So why was the USSR silent? What if they actually went to the Moon but their lie consists of their claim that it has no atmosphere? Maybe the Moon's atmosphere is similar to that of Mars.
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They went to the moon.
They spoke with a race who live inside the moon.
They planted a few weapons on the moon.
They be assed out now.
NASA lays around all day smoking weed and they are so lazy they want others to debunk them so they have nothing to speak with the public about.

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Here's a typical prediction from 1964:

[link to news.google.com]
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If she can jump three feet high on the earth, she can jump 18 feet high on the moon.

The space travelers who land on the moon will find its lighter gravity very interesting. They will be able to travel in giant strides and leap over high boulders. If a man falls down a cliff, he will come down slowly and perhaps have time to grab onto a passing ledge to save himself.
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So why was the USSR silent?
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As we have seen from the 9/11 false-flag attack, countries rarely expose other countries' lies in public. Years of blackmail is much more useful than a single public relations coup.

The usual rule among both powerful countries and powerful individuals is mutual blackmail--i.e., "I won't expose your lies and you won't expose mine."
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It doesn't take a genius to realize the moonlandings where faked...
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So why was the USSR silent?
As we have seen from the 9/11 false-flag attack, countries rarely expose other countries' lies in public. Years of blackmail is much more useful than a single public relations coup.

The usual rule among both powerful countries and powerful individuals is mutual blackmail--i.e., "I won't expose your lies and you won't expose mine."
 Quoting: Skeptic the First 955253


The sheeple don't seem to be able to get their heads around such an elementary fact.

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Here's a typical prediction from 1964:

[link to news.google.com]
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If she can jump three feet high on the earth, she can jump 18 feet high on the moon.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First 955253

Yeah, that's before she straps on a giantic life support system. Even in low or no gravity, things still have MASS. Furthermore, jumping high while wearing a spacesuit is a good way to kill yourself; your center of gravity is shifted to your backpack, and if you land on the backpack too hard it could break and then your life support will shut down. Charlie Duke got the scare of his life when he fell on his back during an EVA after attempting to jump too high.
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As we have seen from the 9/11 false-flag attack, countries rarely expose other countries' lies in public. Years of blackmail is much more useful than a single public relations coup.

The usual rule among both powerful countries and powerful individuals is mutual blackmail--i.e., "I won't expose your lies and you won't expose mine."
 Quoting: Skeptic the First 955253


But the regimes that are in conflict with the US are openly saying 9-11 was an inside job/faked attacks. Iran for example.

I also remember not long ago how the Western media said the Chinese spacewalk was actually filmed in a pool, showing how bubbles come out of the astronaut's suit.
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didn't watch all the videos after watching his dumb experiment with the balloon and flag,he thinks by closing the door he seals the room and its equal to the conditions on the moon,the flag he used was probably cotton and he didn't even have it hanging fully free,and the flag on the moon would have been some synthetic material so the colors wouldn't fade so quick,and a balloon compared to a spacesuit with electronics flowing through it which would probably have a electromagnetic field coming off it, anyway it would be easier for the flag to be affected by the static in near vacuum on the moon,i believed the astronaut probably just brushed it anyway.
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It doesn't take a genius to realize the moonlandings where faked...
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Has anybody ever asked why they faked it, what was gained?
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You won't believe this. This is no joke. I'm speechless as I write this.

The whole Moon Hoax Debate, which I thought had died off long ago, has been revived by this young genius from Australia
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If he thinks the Moon missions were a hoax, he is a MORAN, not a genius.

YOU are a dumbass


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Apollo 12 was struck by lightning on launch. Had it not been for the humans on board who manually switched on backup systems after the telemetry link to the ground became scrambled, it never would have been able to reach the moon. The whole mission was seconds from being aborted as it was. There is NO way that mission could have made it to the moon unmanned, yet the spacecraft was tracked on the ground by amateurs:
[link to www.astr.ua.edu]
Water dump from the astronauts:
[link to www.astr.ua.edu]
This is irrefutable proof we went to the moon.
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Here's a typical prediction from 1964:

[link to news.google.com]
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If she can jump three feet high on the earth, she can jump 18 feet high on the moon.

 Quoting: Skeptic the First 955253


So, GO GET a moon suit, and see how high you can jump ON the Earth, THEN translate to what the astronauts did.

dumbass


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It doesn't take a genius to realize the moonlandings where faked...


Has anybody ever asked why they faked it, what was gained?
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The space race?
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It doesn't take a genius to realize the moonlandings where faked...
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This thread goes a long way in answering the question Why is China kicking the West's ass?

If people like this are all we have to pin our hopes on, god help us.
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It doesn't take a genius to realize the moonlandings where faked...


Has anybody ever asked why they faked it, what was gained?

The space race?
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Some race huh? Space is for other beings, mankind is too caught up in money, greed, & war.
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Here's a typical prediction from 1964:

[link to news.google.com]
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If she can jump three feet high on the earth, she can jump 18 feet high on the moon.



So, GO GET a moon suit, and see how high you can jump ON the Earth, THEN translate to what the astronauts did.

dumbass


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Well, if you start taking a TRUE scientific approach to this then NASA wins. You have to pull back some and leave room to manipulate the data in your argument.
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Excellent - thanks OP for the info.

I was a believer in the hoax as I had grown up believing that maybe a few Agents of the Govt would lie, but that NEVER could a hoax of this magnitude be orchestrated.

Yet, compartmentalization is a Godsend for those who wish to con the public. Looking closely at the photos 'brought back' from the moon 40 years ago does wonders destroying NASA's myth.

Another good site for anyone wishing to read about the moon hoax is:
[link to www.davesweb.cnchost.com]
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Some NASA fanboys simply get delusional and make up lies:

[link to windows2universe.org]
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Because of its smaller size, the Moon's gravity is one-sixth of the Earth's gravity, as we saw demonstrated by the giant leaps of the Apollo astronauts.
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What giant leaps?
 Quoting: Skeptic the First 955253

this is just dumb, they were weighted down by their heavy suits,and as if they wanted them to be able to jump around,if they damaged their suits that would be it.
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Re: Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate!
alright. this guy is right.

if there was a static charge, the charge should have affected the flag AT ALL TIMES, not only when the astronaut passed speedily near the flag.

while holding,

while standing near it,

at all times.

but it doesnt. this indeed seems to be wind. im discounting all the other theories because most of them are total bollocks. (did i type bollocks right you brits ?)





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