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BREAKING 25,000 BARRELS A DAY - NOT 5,000 - WSJ

 
Tomahawk Jones  (OP)

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05/01/2010 03:39 PM
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sorry it must be over the wather 1 meter

it is why hihg bloks of styrofoam

more here

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- ah hem, "STYROFOAM" will last about 15 seconds after it makes contact with oil.
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05/01/2010 03:44 PM
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"STYROFOAM" will last about 15 seconds after it makes contact with oil.
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so the blocks must be covered something

this way they can catch the oil because green house foil from farmer industry are wery long in size and they know how to connect the foil together

they can make it in one day

pass the information to them
Tomahawk Jones  (OP)

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05/01/2010 03:46 PM
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without roads automobiles will be useless?

you can make fuel from hemp and drive on dirt roads......in fact roads have been around a hell of a lot longer than asphalt.....
in fact this article is just stupid...sorry OP..not personal.
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- ah yes, you are correct, good thing that most cars today are perfectly suited for traveling rutted, washed out, if not impassable dirt roads. I stand corrected.
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the main problem is that they are not able to catch the oil in the first place

because they have not inof deep water barriers .

this foil they can buy wery cheep like for them

same styroflex or anything else what can be used for high boys
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05/01/2010 03:52 PM
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this is sea floor movement causing these leaks, and the explosion itself. We have been pumping oil for too many years, and the sea floor is collapsing in some places and heaving from earth changes in others. There will be more and more of these problems everywhere on the planet from pumping oil. This is a cause of some of the quakes in fact we are having in oil pumping areas, Iraq, Iran, Saudi and the like.

Oil does not regenerate and fill in these caverns left. Water may seep into some. While oil regenerates, it does not enough to replace anywhere close to what we take out and the plates float on it. We will not be getting significant "replacement" of oil until after the pole reversal etc. And we won't be using much then.

Man was given technologies for electric cars and electricity period, not requiring ANY fossil fuels. Ditto energy to make steel not requiring coal. Man has been most foolish. And he will pay the karma.
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foolish with greed and lust for dominion over his fellow man....false power.

the collective etch-a-sketch is about to be cleaned.
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05/01/2010 03:57 PM
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Oh and all these "fishermen" who are being interviewed and crying about their jobs being lost...

1) they just want a big payout like all the Katrina scammers did

2) I wonder how many became fishermen "just now" and probably never made any money doing it anyway.
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definitely can see that happening
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05/01/2010 03:59 PM
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Uhhh no. I'm at a loss for words to even try to respond to such an incredibly ignorant statement.

Nature does things in a big way. Oil veins run throughout the Earth and are interconnected. There are OCEANS of oil under the ground just as there are oceans of water above. Think again.

Dude.. you do know how oil is formed right? I'm not sure I should be responding to a wall, but oil is dead/decayed plant and animal material that was highly compressed over millions of years. We did not have dinosaurs stacked a mile high walking on top of each other. :P
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these aren't facts.......
Anonymous Coward
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05/01/2010 04:04 PM
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I stand corrected. There are opposing theories to oil being a fossil fuel. Learn something new every day.

[link to www.wnd.com]
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thank you
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05/01/2010 04:14 PM
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Hmm, just discovered that the Ixtoc I spill from 1979 was at around 10-30k barrels a day. This resulted in over 450,000 tonnes of oil being spilled in the Gulf (10x Valdez) back in they day. They seemed to cope then.

We'll see how this one goes.
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05/01/2010 04:17 PM
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Hmm, just discovered that the Ixtoc I spill from 1979 was at around 10-30k barrels a day. This resulted in over 450,000 tonnes of oil being spilled in the Gulf (10x Valdez) back in they day. They seemed to cope then.

We'll see how this one goes.
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[link to www.incidentnews.gov]
On June 3, 1979, the 2 mile deep exploratory well, IXTOC I, blew out in the Bahia de Campeche, 600 miles south of Texas in the Gulf of Mexico. The IXTOC I was being drilled by the SEDCO 135, a semi-submersible platform on lease to Petroleos Mexicanos (PEMEX). A loss of drilling mud circulation caused the blowout to occur. The oil and gas blowing out of the well ignited, causing the platform to catch fire. The burning platform collapsed into the wellhead area hindering any immediate attempts to control the blowout. PEMEX hired blowout control experts and other spill control experts including Red Adair, Martech International of Houston, and the Mexican diving company, Daivaz. The Martech response included 50 personnel on site, the remotely operated vehicle TREC, and the submersible Pioneer I. The TREC attempted to find a safe approach to the Blowout Preventer (BOP). The approach was complicated by poor visibility and debris on the seafloor including derrick wreckage and 3000 meters of drilling pipe. Divers were eventually able to reach and activate the BOP, but the pressure of the oil and gas caused the valves to begin rupturing. The BOP was reopened to prevent destroying it. Two relief wells were drilled to relieve pressure from the well to allow response personnel to cap it. Norwegian experts were contracted to bring in skimming equipment and containment booms, and to begin cleanup of the spilled oil. The IXTOC I well continued to spill oil at a rate of 10,000 - 30,000 barrels per day until it was finally capped on March 23, 1980. Keyword: Boom, Corexit 9527, skimmer, manual removal, volunteers, blowout, fire, evaporation, blowout preventer, relief well, submersible..
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Levin: SWAT Team Response To Oil Spill Is Government Takeover Plot

Radio talk show host and former Reagan cabinet advisor Mark Levin has slammed President Obama’s bizarre announcement that he will be sending SWAT teams to deal with the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, alleging that the response is part of a plan to grease the skids for government takeover and nationalization of the oil industry.

[link to www.infowars.com]
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05/01/2010 06:16 PM
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Giant foil-covered-styrofoam ring idea: I think that the ocean will not tolerate a circle that wide. She'll tear it to hell. It's take more engineering than is available.

I'd say the best thing is to go with the funnel idea but super quick and in any case, the funnel disallows control of the flow. It's going to come out of the well as fast as all that massive weight wants to push it.

Also gonna need tankers to quickly come and take those un-invited, un-controlled, funneled tons of oil away from there even if it can be funneled to the surface.
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05/01/2010 07:47 PM
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Giant foil-covered-styrofoam ring idea:

I'd say the best thing is to go with the funnel idea

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any of this ideas are cheap and posible to realise in only one day .
Anonymous Coward
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05/01/2010 07:47 PM
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Yes, and the ocean floor is only 1000 feet down, not 5000.
Someone misread the depths on a map which were in feet, thinking they were meters and then translated them to feet.

Big error there too.
And the well by the same figuring then is really only about 5000 feet deep, not 30,0000.

If you're gonna have big news all over the place, at least get the numbers right.
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05/01/2010 07:48 PM
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i don't understand how a natural substance, OIL is harmful for the environment, if you threw a shitload of plants or even dinosaurs in the ocean, it wouldn't be bad would it? Why is oil so toxic to the environment? It was actually in the ocean the whole time, right?
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i don't understand how a natural substance, OIL is harmful for the environment, if you threw a shitload of plants or even dinosaurs in the ocean, it wouldn't be bad would it? Why is oil so toxic to the environment? It was actually in the ocean the whole time, right?
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Technically speaking, everything is a natural substance. Even synthetic materials are made from nature. To keep it simple, oil is the earth's shit.
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i don't understand how a natural substance, OIL is harmful for the environment, if you threw a shitload of plants or even dinosaurs in the ocean, it wouldn't be bad would it? Why is oil so toxic to the environment? It was actually in the ocean the whole time, right?


Technically speaking, everything is a natural substance. Even synthetic materials are made from nature. To keep it simple, oil is the earth's shit.
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lol...but even shit is good for fertilizer, I guess pouring oil in your front yard isn't so good though..
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Oh and all these "fishermen" who are being interviewed and crying about their jobs being lost...

1) they just want a big payout like all the Katrina scammers did

2) I wonder how many became fishermen "just now" and probably never made any money doing it anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 782009



Shut up you moron. They have full legal right to demand FULL payout for all projected losses for their ENTIRE fishing career. Its not like they saw a mopped floor and purposely slipped on it. This could literally wipe out the US-Atlantic fishing industry. And how were Katrina VICTIMS scamming anyone? Like people would purposely stay trapped in their homes or the city surrounded by rancid water for 5 days to scam someone? You must have BP stock.
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i don't understand how a natural substance, OIL is harmful for the environment, if you threw a shitload of plants or even dinosaurs in the ocean, it wouldn't be bad would it? Why is oil so toxic to the environment? It was actually in the ocean the whole time, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958343


You probably don't understand because you're a complete moron. Mercury and lead are natural substances. Why don't you go gargle and chew on some and come and tell how it went.
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05/01/2010 10:01 PM
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Hmm, just discovered that the Ixtoc I spill from 1979 was at around 10-30k barrels a day. This resulted in over 450,000 tonnes of oil being spilled in the Gulf (10x Valdez) back in they day. They seemed to cope then.

We'll see how this one goes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 957444


That was near Mexico and much further from the coast. Not near major refuges and coastal fishing grounds. Don't compare the two they aren't the same. Maryland and Louisiana, and many coastal states might lose all their fishing grounds from this.

"Prevailing currents carried the oil towards the Texas coastline. The US government had two months to prepare booms to protect major inlets."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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05/01/2010 10:41 PM
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- I suggest everyone get down to Red Lobster, or your favorite seafood resturant, and have your last seafood dinner while you can !!


"April 30, 2010 Update:

Although crude oil has the potential to taint seafood with flavors and odors caused by exposure to hydrocarbon chemicals, the public should not be concerned about the safety of seafood in the stores at this time."

[link to www.fda.gov]


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