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Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/02/2010 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Captain America User ID: 911295 United States 05/02/2010 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have cut myself while fucking around with knives countless times, some my fault, some the knife's fault (like as in it's lock slipped or it broke or came unscrewed pocket knife I mean) and in some cases neither, but I have got some scars boy. I got a good cut on one of my fingers and had no other method available so I just got a thread and a needle, got the needle really hot on the end with a bic lighter, threaded the needle, and stitched er up. And that had NO scar unlike some which I have paid doctors hundreds of dollars for. I will continue to stitch my wounds if they are superficial enough to allow it, but this is dangerous without some cleaning precations and whatnot, so don't take my advice and end up with a staph infection and then sue me. But great stuff OP and good idea to teach people this, it's not rocket science and there is NO REASON to pay hundreds for this kind of work. |
Captain America User ID: 911295 United States 05/02/2010 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good way to get an infection, that shit didnt look sterile. Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopLife isn't always composed of sterile situations. Soon many of us think the state of the world will deteriorate rapidly. When it does this information may save your life. |
aVian User ID: 805698 United States 05/02/2010 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dont play with knives...you'll cut your finger "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck |
SHTFMilitia.com (OP) User ID: 958881 United States 05/02/2010 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sterile hell thats why there is so much infection in the world today, to many people being TO clean and they have no immune system. Thanks captain... Are You Prepared ? [link to www.shtfmilitia.com] |
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Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/02/2010 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sutures can be purchased off ebay and other places. Quoting: SHTFMilitia.comSterile hell thats why there is so much infection in the world today, to many people being TO clean and they have no immune system. Thanks captain... You are IMO, talking out your arse, but you can take as many risks as you want I would have had your wife wear surgical gloves, and treat the wound with alcohol/iodine first. Autoclaved surgical pliars/grips/forceps would be better than a dirty multitool, sutures come sterile. If you dont have an autoclave, a pressure cooker will work. You were not going to die from a wound like that, but having your wife do a botched job is not preferable to doing it properly. If this was a SHTF senario what was shown is better than nothing but you are still taking risks you dont need too. You were doing that outside, i would have put pressure on it, bandaed it and moved to a cleaner area. There are lots of microorganisms that can survive in soil that you dont want in cuts that have no been cleaned and sterilized and are having surgery on outside. You are playing with yours chances of getting, tb, thyphoid, fungal infections, protzoan, but whatever you know best im sure. Atheist |
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SHTFMilitia.com (OP) User ID: 958881 United States 05/02/2010 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was cleaned, peroxide and alcohol. Just because you did not see EVERYTHING does not mean it wasn't done. Last Edited by SHTFMilitia.com on 05/02/2010 08:58 AM Are You Prepared ? [link to www.shtfmilitia.com] |
aVian User ID: 805698 United States 05/02/2010 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's more germs in a hospital. Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopSo you would rather have surgery in a muddy field. Be my guest. no mrsa in a muddy field mrsa in a hospital yup I will take the field "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/02/2010 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Life isn't always composed of sterile situations. Quoting: Captain AmericaSoon many of us think the state of the world will deteriorate rapidly. When it does this information may save your life. Of course, but this wound was not going to make the guy bleed out, i think he took risks when there was no need, its not like he was 200 miles from a hospital and loosing lots of blood. Atheist |
SHTFMilitia.com (OP) User ID: 958881 United States 05/02/2010 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course, but this wound was not going to make the guy bleed out, i think he took risks when there was no need, its not like he was 200 miles from a hospital and loosing lots of blood. Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopAnd how do you know how far from a hospital i am ? Yea and get a bill for 2,000 or more for them to sew it, lol no thanks i got to many scars from hospitals already THEY ARE the ones doing botch jobs. Are You Prepared ? [link to www.shtfmilitia.com] |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/02/2010 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no mrsa in a muddy field Quoting: aVianmrsa in a hospital yup I will take the field Thats just showing a lack of education regarding microbiology. People carry infectius microorganisms around on the skin. Where do you think MRSA is coming from, its not floating around in the air, its coming primarily from other people, its simply a strain of regular 'staphylococcus aureus'. About a third of people carry SA around on the skin anyway. MRSA is a strain of the same bacteria which is resistant to antibiotics, you know why that shit as happened, because uneducated people pop antibiotics when there is no need and natural selection takes over allowing super bugs to essentially fill the evolutionary niche of another weaker strain. over half a million americans a year contract an infection from staphylococcus areus. If you are fine with having botched surgey in a muddy or dusty field be my guest, it will be actual doctors that have to cut your limbs off to save your life though. Atheist |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 951279 United States 05/02/2010 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cayenne pepper. get a big container of it at sams club, one for the home and one for the the trunk of the car(replace that one after every summer). here is why. if you have let that cut bleed out a little to clean it and then pack cayenne pepper all around that finger and tape it up and leave it like that over night then the next day it will be practically healed. do it again or hit it with some iodine and youre done, unless you hit it and bust it back open. i have done this. no, it doesnt sting. yes, it will shock the shit out of you. the person who told me about this said that if they took a shotgun blast to the chest they would pack the sucker in cayenne and go to bed and wake up alive the next day. i believe him. dont you ignorant pussies give me any crap about this. its easy enough to check out. get some cayenne and next time you cut your finger, have some balls and verify what i say. btw, no scab, no infection, no redness, no soreness and no scar. i might answer some questions if your lucky. |
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Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/02/2010 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yea and get a bill for 2,000 or more for them to sew it. Quoting: SHTFMilitia.comThats a good enough reason, and im not going to debate that, i have the same mentality, but im begging you please dont take risks like that when there is no need. You get a bad infection you might lose the finger. This is coming from somebody who has microbiology training, and has some knowledge of pharamcology and first aid. Just be careful dude. Atheist |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 951279 United States 05/02/2010 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was cleaned, peroxide and alcohol. Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopJust because you did not see EVERYTHING does not mean it wasn't done. Ok thats a start, whats with the multitool and no gloves though? there are three times more non-human cells in you than human. youre a freak if youre afraid of bacteria. you would be dead without them. if every cell of your body disappeared you would still be visible to the finest detail. the finnish government cut MRSA infections down to almost zero with a law that made antibiotics illegal except in life or death situations. quit being a brainwashed turd and use your head. what does antibiotic mean? anti = against, bio = physical life. knock yourself out but for gods sake dont infect others with your pharmedico propaganda. the TV is doing that for you. |
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Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/02/2010 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom was a nurse. She also liked to clean game, and on a couple of occasions cut herself badly enough she had to give herself stitches (it gave me the shivvers). How can anyone do that? Quoting: FaithIve done some DIY basic surgery on myself in the past, without painkillers, its a skill that people want for if TSHTF. Crap like vomiting, diarrhea or sepsis as a result of infection from a botched job can kill somebody pretty fucking quickly when there is no medical infastructure. Atheist |
SHTFMilitia.com (OP) User ID: 958881 United States 05/02/2010 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can also use superglue instead of sutures. Burns like hell for a few minutes, but superglue it and once it dries, tape it up. Quoting: anonymous coward 820081Yea i have done this too but, suiters were easier to get to and also made for good video Are You Prepared ? [link to www.shtfmilitia.com] |
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SHTFMilitia.com (OP) User ID: 958881 United States 05/02/2010 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | better listen up, boys. i speak from experience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 951279cayenne pepper. Wow look what i found THANKS for the info [link to healingtools.tripod.com] BLEEDING If a Person has SERIOUS EXTERNAL BLEEDING (Cuts, Wounds, & Childbirth Hemorrhage/Tear), you must: 1. LIBERALLY FLUSH the AFFECTED Area with 10 - 20 Dropperfuls of Cayenne Pepper Tincture IMMEDIATELY or PACK the Area with Cayenne Pepper Powder, if the Cayenne Pepper Tincture is NOT AVAILABLE! 2. Give 1 - 3 Dropperfuls of Cayenne Pepper Tincture ORALLY also. 3. If Echinacea Plus Tincture is AVAILABLE, FLUSH the AFFECTED Area with 10 - 20 Dropperfuls. 4. Apply Pressure to a Cut/Wound/Tear or use Arterial Pressure. 5. Tape the Cut/Wound/Tear together. 6. Apply Aloe Vera Gel to the AFFECTED Area on the following day. 7. If Pain is involved, then give 5 - 60 Drops 3 - 4 times daily of an EQUAL amount of Valerian Root Tincture to the Lobelia Seed Pod Tincture. 8. If OPEN SORES or WOUNDS are NOT HEALING, apply Slippery Elm Gruel over the AFFECTED Area each day, until desired RESULTS are achieved. If a Person has SERIOUS INTERNAL BLEEDING (Ulcers, Hemorraghes), you must: 1. Give 1/8 tsp. of Cayenne Pepper Tincture - 8 times per day. 2. And then WORK your way up to taking 1 tsp. of Cayenne Pepper Tincture - 3 times per day. If a Woman has a HEAVY MENSTRUAL FLOW, you must: 1. Give/take 1 - 3 Dropperfuls of Cayenne Pepper Tincture ORALLY. 2. If Pain is involved, then give 5 - 60 Drops 3 - 4 times daily of an EQUAL amount of Valerian Root Tincture to the Lobelia Seed Pod Tincture. [link to www.buzzinabottle.com] 2. DEEP CUT: A person in our audience told how he had cut deeply with a sharp instrument the inside of his hand, fingers and palm. The blood spurted out in streams. He poured a large amount of cayenne pepper into the wound, and within seconds the blood flow slowed down to congealed dripping and the bleeding stopped entirely before many seconds had passed. With a goodly amount of cayenne covering the wound, he then wrapped it. He was so excited about the rapid results he could hardly wait for the regular herb meeting. But, as he said, the "punch line" was lost, because instead of a nasty ragged scar to show how severely he had been hurt, the area was healed and there was no scar. [Dr. Christopher¹s Newsletter 1-12] Are You Prepared ? [link to www.shtfmilitia.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 773494 United States 05/02/2010 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom was a nurse. She also liked to clean game, and on a couple of occasions cut herself badly enough she had to give herself stitches (it gave me the shivvers). How can anyone do that? Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopIve done some DIY basic surgery on myself in the past, without painkillers, its a skill that people want for if TSHTF. Crap like vomiting, diarrhea or sepsis as a result of infection from a botched job can kill somebody pretty fucking quickly when there is no medical infastructure. You are right, of course. |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/02/2010 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there are three times more non-human cells in you than human. youre a freak if youre afraid of bacteria. you would be dead without them. if every cell of your body disappeared you would still be visible to the finest detail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 951279the finnish government cut MRSA infections down to almost zero with a law that made antibiotics illegal except in life or death situations. quit being a brainwashed turd and use your head. what does antibiotic mean? anti = against, bio = physical life. knock yourself out but for gods sake dont infect others with your pharmedico propaganda. the TV is doing that for you. I dont watch TV, i dont even own a TV, i have experience in microbiology, so i know all about antibiotics and microorganisms The majority of antibiotics are derived from fungus, they are chemicals fungi naturally secrete which are used to kill bacteria in order to compete for the same environment. If you had a notion of aceptic technique and how easy it is to contaminate agar plates when culturing in microbiology, proper sterile techniques need to be used, there are perfectly good reasosns, because nstiching open wounds in a non sterile environment is a bad idea. Atheist |
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Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/02/2010 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knowing how to doctor yourself is a valuable skill. Quoting: ElijahIndeed, but its imperitive that people know how to use aceptic techniques properly. Encouraging untrained surgery is just naive IMO. Somebody is going to get a life threatening infection by trying this shit. Atheist |
Elijah User ID: 743082 United States 05/02/2010 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knowing how to doctor yourself is a valuable skill. Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopIndeed, but its imperitive that people know how to use aceptic techniques properly. Encouraging untrained surgery is just naive IMO. Somebody is going to get a life threatening infection by trying this shit. I wouldn't do it except I had no choice other than bleeding to death, but it is possible to find yourself alone with limited choices. Better to have some options to buy more time. Leaves a sizable scar though. |