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My SIL the Catholic Nun has MS & Nutritional Therapies Can Help Her, Should I Piss Off Junk Food Family to Tell Her This?

 
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Serious Dilemma!

My Sister in Law, the Catholic Nun, has just been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. IMO there are nutritional therapies that can definitely help her, should I piss off the junk-food-fanatic, health-food-bashing family to tell her this?

I really am tormented by this. Please help!

Below is a short version of my story and the long story, pick one.

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Cliff's Notes:

Sister in law, a Catholic teaching Nun, has just been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, a terrible neurodegenerative disease. MS is a disease linked to chronic lifetime dietary and lifestyle vitamin D insufficiency.

Husband's family are relentless, prejudiced and ignorant junk-food, comfort-food junkies who cling to their Suburban comfort food and belittle and ridicule my fresh whole foods diet. Not kidding. They are literally hostile to my eating fresh foods & whole grains and resent my not eating certain things with them. They refuse to take vitamin supplements.

I'm positive the doctor hasn't talked to sister in law about the recent research linking MS to chronic Vitamin D deficiency. There are clear risk factors for MS linked to vitamin D deficiency and she has them all. Vitamin D supplements can help stop the progression or even reverse MS.

If I try to talk to sister-in-law about her MS and talking vitamin D, this is certain to create new tension and/or more harassment of me by the jealous, fat, passive aggressive Hausfraus in my husband's family.

Should I let her nervous system rot while I keep my silence and enjoy peace? Or should I prepare myself to eat shit from the family and try to talk to her about the new alternative therapies for MS?
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My Sister in Law the Catholic Nun has just been diagnosed with MS... and I have a Natural Healing Problem w/This. I did a quick review of the physiology of this disease, and it's pretty damn clear that her case of MS is yet another malnutrition syndrome of my husband's family.

Now there's already a totally unworkable breach between me and my husband's family over food, to the point where I visit I don't even eat their food at X-mas or Thanksgiving meals because it makes me sick and they continue to ignore the possibility that I could really be getting sick eating their food, and they passively aggressively block my attempts to cook for myself.

Their food is so unhealthy and intolerable, the visits have become surreal for me! Here's a thread I started last year when I dreaded an upcoming visit:

My Holiday Nightmare Looms: The In-Laws' Suburban Junk Food Culinary Hell
Thread: My Holiday Nightmare Looms: The In-Laws' Suburban Junk Food Culinary Hell

Needless to say, they have a lot of medical problems from their diet. Now, among the many malnutrition syndromes these Suburban Junk Food Hell cooks suffer from, some are vitamin-D related.

My MIL has osteoporosis so bad that she has become hunch-backed as her spine is collapsing under the weight of her head. She still won't take vitamin D supplements, even though blood tests show she's got Vitamin D deficiency. Irritable bowel syndrome has stricken more than one person in the family, including her, and that's an autoimmune disorder associated with vitamin D insufficiency.

Back to my sister in law the Catholic nun: she is in a veiled, cloistered order and also has the food/dietary culture of her family. Food is overcooked refined starch, sugar, fat and meat, and anything else, like vegetables, spices, fruits and herbs, are all what weird people from foreign countries eat. Now, suddenly she has multiple sclerosis and is being put on interferon.

I did some research and she has classic vitamin-D-deficiency pattern lifestyle risks for multiple sclerosis. Below are the vitamin D-MS links found in studies:

--She's born in the month of May, which is the month that many people who have MS are born in, as this sets up their vitamin-D-deficient mothers with steep vitamin D deficits during critical development stages of the pregnancy. Being born in the month of May (November in the Southern Hemisphere) increases risk of MS by 30%

--She lives in a higher latitude (not tropical or equatorial region). People who live in higher latitudes have higher incidences of MS.

--She also has a low nutrient meat-and-potatoes-and-butter diet low in fresh vegetables and fruits, and natural sources of vitamin D and the family has a prejudice against vitamin supplements and health foods, so their nutrition is all from their poor diet.

--She wears the religious veil that covers everything except for her hands and face, every day all year round. Studies show that regardless of other factors, women who wear the veil, or hajib, in Muslim countries have higher rates of MS than women who do not. Studies in Iran show that the incidence of MS in women in that country has increased in the decades since women were forced back into scarves, veils and concealing clothing.

--Vitamin-D-deficiency related syndromes exist in her immediate family, including her mom's irritable bowel syndrome and severe osteoporosis. In fact, irritable bowel syndrome and MS go hand in hand in populations where one or the other is high.

Now the problem I have is that I'm almost positive that the doctor hasn't run any of this Vitamin D info by her, since that's all experimental research in the past 15 years, and doctors only function off what's FDA approved. Anything else, including nutritional therapies, are not only not on their radar, but they aren't allowed by health insurance payment policies to use them.

Should I try to tell my sister in law about how her MS has this classic vitamin D deficiency pattern? The same body of research shows that vitamin D therapies can stop recurring episodes and even stop or reverse the progression of the disease.

I just see myself setting myself up for being bashed and more sniping at by the obese, unhealthy and junk-food-hugging women in my husband's family, if I try to talk to my sister in law about the Vitamin D angle and how she should try to go on tank-top-and-shorts walks in the sun, take Vitamin D3 supplements, etc. (Not to mention all the other alternative medicine things that help autoimmune disease victims, like anti-inflammatory foods).

About my sister in law: she's a teaching nun and has 3 master's degrees. She's very well liked among the students and helps take care of novices. She's the only other woman with a professional degree in my husband's family.

I want to help her, but I'm at the point where I can barely force myself to show up and gag down the crap the fat, jealous women in his family insist I eat with them while they enjoy watching my discomfort. I was planning to not even go to the visit with him this year!

If I try to talk to sister-in-law about her MS and talking vitamin D, this is certain to create new tension and/or harassment of me. It would just be like how they get contemptuous and angry at me when I say that I can't eat this thing or that thing they think I should eat, because it makes me sick.

Should I let her nervous system rot while I keep my silence or should I prepare myself to eat shit from the family and try to talk to her about the new alternative therapies for MS?

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Medical Research References:

Vitamin D and its role in immunology: Multiple sclerosis, and inflammatory bowel disease. Cantorna, M.T. Prog Biophys Mol Biol. 2006 Sep;92(1):60-4. Epub 2006 Feb 28.

1,25-Dihydroxyvitamin D3 reversibly blocks the progression of relapsing encephalomyelitis, a model of multiple sclerosis. Cantorna, M.T., Hayes, C.E., DeLuca, H.F., 1996. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 93, 7861–7864.

Vitamin D: a natural inhibitor of multiple sclerosis. Hayes, C.E., 2000. Proc. Nutr. Soc. 59, 531–535.

Vitamin D intake and incidence of multiple sclerosis. Willett, W.C., Ascherio, A., 2004. Neurology 62, 60–65.

Vitamin D as an immune modulator in multiple sclerosis, a review Journal of Neuroimmunology, Volume 194, Issue 1, Pages 7-17
J. Smolders, J. Damoiseaux, P. Menheere, R. Hupperts

Low maternal exposure to ultraviolet radiation in pregnancy, month of birth, and risk of multiple sclerosis in offspring: longitudinal analysis A Thesis: Judith Staples, student1, Anne-Louise Ponsonby, professor2, Lynette Lim, biostatistician. National Centre for Epidemiology and Population Health, Australian National University, Canberra, Australia, 2 Murdoch Childrens Research Institute, Royal Children’s Hospital, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

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You can tell them...till your blue in the face. It'll just stir things up bad. I'm not up to telling my story at this point, but I have experience in this area. My motto now has to be Live and Let Die. If I am asked to share what I have to offer I will, not before.
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its probably not MS.... check this video out. lyme is the biggest cover up of our lifetimes and that is no small order in and of itself. check your ego at the door and watch this with an open mind.


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You can tell them...till your blue in the face. It'll just stir things up bad. I'm not up to telling my story at this point, but I have experience in this area. My motto now has to be Live and Let Die. If I am asked to share what I have to offer I will, not before.
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I know. I talked to my MIL about taking vitamin D for her osteoporosis, and she just ignored me. Now it's so bad she can't raise her arms. The next thing will probably be her hip bone snaps because it's too structurally weak to support her weight.

I don't say anything to her anymore. Last time I saw her she volunteered the info that her vitamin D levels tested low and she's not taking vitamin D supplements.

I didn't say anything, but I'm like wtf

I'm not sure they believe in evolution. I think maybe they think food is good if God makes it available to them. If someone doesn't believe in evolution, it's hard to try to explain to people why modern processed foods lack the substances our bodies evolved to depend on.

So I'm wondering if their attitude comes from the belief that questioning the ability of the food on the grocery store shelves to sustain one may be something only a faithless whore who doesn't trust God does?

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Vitamin D is a brand new, cutting edge medical research area. I'm fairly certain that her doctor probably didn't talk to her about it.

Here's an April 2010 article in Practical Neurology assessing the state of the progress in Vitamin D-MS research:

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There are several lines of evidence supporting the importance of vitamin D in MS. Inverse correlation between MS prevalence and sunlight has been reported. his may in part explain the much discussed North/South gradient in MS. A study of American military personnel showed that low 25(OH)D levels in adolescence may be associated with an increased risk of developing MS later in life. A 41 percent decrease of incidence of MS for every 50nmol/L increase in 25(OH)D was estimated for the white population. Low serum 25(OH)D levels have been reported in 50- 70 percent of different MS populations.

Lower vitamin D levels have been reported during relapses in relapsing-remitting MS patients, and high vitamin D levels have been associated to low relapse activity. A recent report showed that children developing MS after presenting with a clinically isolated syndrome (CIS) had significantly lower serum levels of 25(OH)D compared to those that did not develop MS.

Most of the biologic effects of 1,25(OH)2D are mediated by the vitamin D receptor. This induces receptor mediated anti-inflammatory processes by reducing expression of MHC class II, surface costimulatory molecules and pro-inflammatory cytokines in monocytes/antigen presenting cells. It also inhibits T- and B-lymphocyte proliferation, reduces expression of pro-inflammatory cytokines, and induces apoptosis of activated T lymphocytes.

Evidence is beginning to accumulate of a complex interaction between genetic susceptibility to MS and the role of vitamin D. Expression of the MS associated HLA class II allele is influenced by vitamin D. Certain vitamin D receptor (VDR) gene polymorphisms have been shown to have an influence on disease susceptibility. Other VDR gene polymorphisms have been shown to influence disability progression in MS patients independent of sunlight exposure.

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Much of the recent excitement regarding the role of vitamin D in MS can be traced to a Canadian study that was recently reported at several meetings. This story was picked up by medical and lay press and widely discussed. ...

The main outcome was that the subjects had no hypercalcemia, hypercalciuria or parathyroid dysfunction, despite having mean serum 25(OH)D values peaking at over 400 nmol/L. A widely published secondary outcome was that the treatment group had fewer relapses with a 41 percent reduction in annualized relapse rate, compared with a reduction of 17 percent in the control group. However, the study was not powered to assess clinical outcomes.


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Does she consume products containing aspartame?

You have information that can help her reverse a crippling disease.

Buy her a bottle of vitamin D. Print out the most succinct evidence you have supporting its use, but don't overwhelm her with info.

Give these to her privately.

You would be remiss in not sharing with her what you know about this condition, even if she dismisses the advice.

You will have done all you can, your conscience will be clear. No need to say or do anything more.

The rest is up to her.


good luck.
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Does she consume products containing aspartame?

You have information that can help her reverse a crippling disease.

Buy her a bottle of vitamin D. Print out the most succinct evidence you have supporting its use, but don't overwhelm her with info.

Give these to her privately.

You would be remiss in not sharing with her what you know about this condition, even if she dismisses the advice.

You will have done all you can, your conscience will be clear. No need to say or do anything more.

The rest is up to her.


good luck.
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I think you're right. I have to do something. My husband just suggested we send her a package of the papers and a letter, along with some vitamins and suggestions.

The more I research the topic, the more I realize how important it is to get this info to her ASAP.

There's a real explosion of published work in the past few months, on the MS-vitamin-D-deficiency link, in top journals (Journal of the American Medical Association, Proceedings of the National Academy of the Sciences, Brain, Neuroscience, etc.). The progression of the disease can be halted, and even reversed, in many of these cases.

The evidence is overwhelming, and the research is the kind of stuff that it takes doctors years to pay attention to, since there's no prescription for them to write. I'd bet 10-to-1 her Dr. didn't' say anything about it to her.
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its probably not MS.... check this video out. lyme is the biggest cover up of our lifetimes and that is no small order in and of itself. check your ego at the door and watch this with an open mind.



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What does researching a topic have to do with "ego"?

There's research that suggests that MS can be triggered by infections that affect the nervous system. I found a recent paper that reviews some ways in which infections can trigger MS:

Environmental risk factors for multiple sclerosis. Part I: the role of infection
A Ascherio, KL Munger - Annals of neurology, 2007 - interscience.wiley.com
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Some people can have their MS triggered by stress, drugs, etc.
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Your sister the nun has a husband?
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Your sister the nun has a husband?
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No, silly! My husband, the Catholic Nun, has a sister.
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If she drinks diet drinks, then you could appeal to her intelligence and ask her why, for the love of God, does she consume aspartame. I doubt if she will listen to you at all about Vit D. Maybe she'll read about it somewhere as it's in the news constantly.

Other than that, no. I hate to break this to you, Andromeda, but you can be abrasive and his whole family seems to have chosen foods styles to cling to, regardless of what you might say. They'll treat you like a Jehova's Witness and not hear a word you say.

You don't bear responsibility for her or their choices.
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If she drinks diet drinks, then you could appeal to her intelligence and ask her why, for the love of God, does she consume aspartame. I doubt if she will listen to you at all about Vit D. Maybe she'll read about it somewhere as it's in the news constantly.

Other than that, no. I hate to break this to you, Andromeda, but you can be abrasive and his whole family seems to have chosen foods styles to cling to, regardless of what you might say. They'll treat you like a Jehova's Witness and not hear a word you say.

You don't bear responsibility for her or their choices.
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You are right about that! I'm not good at handling delicate subjects.

There's no better advice than from someone who knows your weaknesses.

Thanks hf

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Does she consume products containing aspartame?

You have information that can help her reverse a crippling disease.

Buy her a bottle of vitamin D. Print out the most succinct evidence you have supporting its use, but don't overwhelm her with info.

Give these to her privately.

You would be remiss in not sharing with her what you know about this condition, even if she dismisses the advice.

You will have done all you can, your conscience will be clear. No need to say or do anything more.

The rest is up to her.


good luck.
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+1

I've been in to natural healing modalities and good nutrition since childhood. My experience has been that MOST people are so wedded to their ignorance that they will not change. I used to come on pretty strong about 'helping' them with the latest research etc., but it was only RARELY that anyone followed my advice. However, the few times I got through to people made it worth it to carry the reputation of Here-comes-Miss Do-Gooder!

These days I am not so pushy about my knowledge, but I do feel a sort of karmic responsibility to give it one try. In your case, I would say print out the articles you feel apply to this situation, buy her a bottle of high quality vitamin D, and present it to her with a compassionate attitude. Done.

After that, it's up to her. It's her body and SHE is responsible for it, not you.

My dad is 83. My sister and her husband have made fun of him behind his back for decades because of his insistence on learning all the latest information about nutrition, and taking a bunch of nutritional supplements. He took a treadmill stress test last week and the doctor said the results were "Fantastic". My sister and BIL have finally admitted that maybe there is something to all of my dad's focus on health. Especially since my BIL is now going through his second round of chemo...but they still won't listen to us about cancer cures. Sigh. It's so much harder when family is involved.

Remember to keep joy in your life, and don't get all stressed out about this. People usually cling to their ignorance unto death. You are responsible for YOU.
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I really appreciate all this advice. The different perspectives do help.

I really am BAD at being diplomatic. I just blurt my ideas, which is indeed "abrasive."

I'm agreeing more and more that I do have to send a package, tho.

I like the idea of printing out these articles, maybe writing up a brief summary of what they mean, taken as a whole, and then add some vitamins and info about alternative medicine for MS online.

To tell you the truth, I think that the SIL is the one person who can get excited about what I can tell her. She's in a very old and influential order, and they have their own worldwide network of houses and culture. It's not outside of the way they live their lives, to appreciate the value simple, healthy alternatives to the kind of expensive Modern-Day technology that appeals to some people. She has enough influence in her order to introduce new ideas, if she wanted to pursue an alternative therapy.
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Others claim a link between MS and aspartame and/or vaccines.

Wouldn't hurt to do all the above; take vit d and detox.

My bud's wife passed from ms in her mid-30s. Just came down with it. Tried to get him to research on the net and he just thought it was all wacky. Went with the doc and she was gone in about a year. So then I felt like it was his fault she died.

Not getting enuff sun has nothing to do with evolution. The evolutionist produce the toxic vaccines.

Doubt she'd go to an naturapathic clinic but these folks might help.
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Others claim a link between MS and aspartame and/or vaccines.

Wouldn't hurt to do all the above; take vit d and detox.

My bud's wife passed from ms in her mid-30s. Just came down with it. Tried to get him to research on the net and he just thought it was all wacky. Went with the doc and she was gone in about a year. So then I felt like it was his fault she died.

Not getting enuff sun has nothing to do with evolution. The evolutionist produce the toxic vaccines.

Doubt she'd go to an naturapathic clinic but these folks might help.
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Thank you, Amish. I'm sorry to hear about your friend.
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MS is different for everyone, so I can only pass on my experiences in hopes it provides you some direction. My girlfriend was diagnosed about 8 months ago, and what we have found to be the best combination has been the Swank Diet (light on oils), nutritional supplements (multivitamin, calcium, vitamin D, etc), and then normal prescription medicine if the pain gets severe enough, or in rare cases, oral steroids if an attack is really bad. Now, this might be overkill if her MS isn't that bad. In the case of my girlfriend, she had it for some time before knowing what was wrong, so she is pretty severe at this point.

As for dealing with family...who cares. Provide her the information, and let her make up her own mind. The most important thing is that she do her research and learn all she can so she can find what works best for her.

BTW...it isn't uncommon for something else to be diagnosed as MS, but be VERY careful when going down that road. Sometimes, it is actually MS, and should be addressed as such. There are plenty of tests that should be done to narrow it down.
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Treatment of MS/CFS/Lyme/GWI

The antibiotics rifampin and doxycycline together for a year or more will cure MS.

B12 administered under the tongue, and B complex vitamins should make her feel better in a week. Repairs myelin.

Vitamin D kills mycoplasma which is the underlying infection.

Glutathione and it's precursors NAC, tryptophan, glycine, magnesium is a powerful anti oxidant to clear toxins made by infection. Vitamin C, E and selenium will boost it's actions.

SAMe, fish oil, evening primrose oil, amino acids, multivitamin. Licorice will boost SAMe's actions.

NO trans fat, soda, processed foods. And yes, an organic diet. It will take 3 months to see an improvement and 2 years for a cure.
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Hey, thanks. I looked at the Swank Diet.

It's got a lot going for it. But I think it has some weaknesses because it's so old, about 60 years old.

Basically, it looks like an early attempt to make an anti-inflammatory diet. The problem is that it could be optimized to be more effective, with updated info about how inflammation and diet interact.

I would adjust the Swank Diet as follows:

(1) Not so many calories from carbs... high glycemic index foods cause insulin spikes which cause prostaglandin and other pain & inflammation molecules to be produced. It's better to have a low-to-moderate carb diet with no refined flours or sugars. All grains must be whole grain.

(2) The info on oils is way outdated. Need to have more olive oil (omega 9 fatty acids), more linseed & fish oils (omega 3 fatty acids), less safflower and other polyunsaturates (omega 6 fatty acids). The aim is to eat anti-inflammatory oils and reduce inflammatory oils. The ratio of omega 6 fatty acids to omega 3 should not exceed 1:1. There is nothing wrong with getting a lot of calories from oils so long as they are not omega 6 fatty acid oils.

(3) Avoiding red meat, dairy and etc is mainly due to factory farming methods producing animals with a lot of hormones in their bodies and whose flesh contains a lot of omega 6 fatty acid on account of an artificial grain based diet. Grass-fed, free range dairy, beef, poultry and pork contains more omega 3 fatty acid, fewer inflammation triggers.

(4) More veggies, fewer fruits (you want a low glycemic index)

(5) Anti-inflammatory spices that are important in anti-cancer diets are very important for other anti-inflammatory diets, too. That includes lots of turmeric, ginger, etc.
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Treatment of MS/CFS/Lyme/GWI

The antibiotics rifampin and doxycycline together for a year or more will cure MS.

B12 administered under the tongue, and B complex vitamins should make her feel better in a week. Repairs myelin.

Vitamin D kills mycoplasma which is the underlying infection.

Glutathione and it's precursors NAC, tryptophan, glycine, magnesium is a powerful anti oxidant to clear toxins made by infection. Vitamin C, E and selenium will boost it's actions.

SAMe, fish oil, evening primrose oil, amino acids, multivitamin. Licorice will boost SAMe's actions.

NO trans fat, soda, processed foods. And yes, an organic diet. It will take 3 months to see an improvement and 2 years for a cure.
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That sounds wonderful! Thanks. I'm on board with the healthy oils and the supplements. I didn't know that about licorice, btw!

The Vitamin D helps with the immune system in a few ways. For MS, there are several ways in which Vitamin D can help. For example, it appears that Vitamin D even mediates the gene transcription that affects the progression of the disease. So Vitamin D supplementation is important.

Additional research seems to show that UVB radiation helps with MS symptoms, even with adequate Vitamin D supplementation. So sunshine itself is helpful for some reason.

I like you're one-liner about diet. People don't realize that nutritional therapy can take months and years.
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Re: My SIL the Catholic Nun has MS & Nutritional Therapies Can Help Her, Should I Piss Off Junk Food Family to Tell Her This?
I also have MS and may be able to help. As for whether it is a misdiagnosis, several tests can pretty well confirm if it is MS - brain/neck MRI, evoked potential test & optic nerve exam. A good neuro should have a handle on these tests. He/she might push for a spinal tap/lumbar puncture, but it is unnecessary and may provide inconclusive results anyway (not worth the pain and intrusion into the spinal cord).
Several remedies have come up lately. Some in this thread bring up all the bad dietary habits - sure, aspartame isn't the best for you, but the old maxim still rings true - everything in moderation. As for OTC stuff, 1000 i.u.'s of Vitamin D a day is a must. Then, consider Krill Omega 3 Fish Oil supplements, too. And for prescription, I highly recommend low dose naltrexone (LDN). (Insure they do not conflict/interact with any meds your SIL may be taking - i.e. consult a doc first). You can research all these three yourself, but they work for me. My chronic progressive MS has literally stopped getting worse, with some symptoms gone for good. And LDN is CHEAP! The tough part is getting a doc to give you a script and most insurance won't cover it since it's off-label. Drug co.'s won't fund clinical research due to lack of payout versus extremely expensive alternatives they have on the market. Definitely worth the effort to get it and give it a try.
Good luck - hang tough with the family as all have best interests at heart, but the important person here is the one affected, not everyone else. Education is key and control over your own health care.
If you need more, reply to this thread and we'll figure a way to chat privately.
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09/09/2010 01:08 AM
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Re: My SIL the Catholic Nun has MS & Nutritional Therapies Can Help Her, Should I Piss Off Junk Food Family to Tell Her This?
P.S. I am RC and went through 16 years of Catholic schooling, so I can appreciate your SIL, the Sister's, position. I would have no problem acting as intermediary, if needed.
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09/09/2010 01:12 AM
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Re: My SIL the Catholic Nun has MS & Nutritional Therapies Can Help Her, Should I Piss Off Junk Food Family to Tell Her This?
I probably would not mind telling because it's related to health, and having MS is not something shameful.

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