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We are all asking the same questions: Why is there a hole burned in the aluminum helideck? Pic of Oil rig after explosion !!!

 
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Re: We are all asking the same questions: Why is there a hole burned in the aluminum helideck? Pic of Oil rig after explosion !!!
What about the weather affects?

The gulf produces large hurricanes.

How will this affect the hurricanes that enter the gulf?

What happens when a H5 enters the gulf?

What happens when an H5 enters the gulf and it is fueled by fuel (oil) and we are blasted by oil?

Are we going to be covered by oil?
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These are really good questions Doomed....
I guess we have never experience anything like this so anything is possible. If a H5 hits the Gulf we are really in for a ride. The damage would be epic.
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Good gravey, all these people want to do is keep drilling. So we made a mistake. hey we've got to make a living. Even if it means putting millions of others out of work and keeling the gulf of mexico.
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Re: We are all asking the same questions: Why is there a hole burned in the aluminum helideck? Pic of Oil rig after explosion !!!
The Good Thing is 115 people survived with no injurys..17 people got off on a helicopter..thats pretty good for 5 minutes notice..
This is a well trained crew...my condolences to those who lost loved ones.

The fix is never as cheap as the prevention. The BOPs should have functioned..but if there is no power to send the signal then its a manual operation..turning valves and pulling levers... 1 2 3.. should have taken a minute maybe two to close the rams...If they didnt do that...then all hell must have broken loose and its abandon ship..
The Helideck melted...the soft edges of the hole look very plastic..where the heat came from ? a ruptured pipe spewing gas ignited and then burnt out..who knows... it doesnt matter now..11 people died...and now the ocean will too unless we get very very very busy....THE MARTIN MARS fire bomber needs to be filled with DISPERSANT and get moving over the slick
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The BOP's are on the sea floor, 5000' from the surface.

A minute or two is not a reasonable time frame.

They did this w/ ROV's & BOTH FAILED.

Too weird in my book.

These are well engineered devices, w/ many years of designer experience behind them.

They're still flying Martin Mars's ??
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Thanks Shadow
Hope all is well with you....
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Hello SD, what are your thoughts on this ??
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The Good Thing is 115 people survived with no injurys..17 people got off on a helicopter..thats pretty good for 5 minutes notice..
This is a well trained crew...my condolences to those who lost loved ones.

The fix is never as cheap as the prevention. The BOPs should have functioned..but if there is no power to send the signal then its a manual operation..turning valves and pulling levers... 1 2 3.. should have taken a minute maybe two to close the rams...If they didnt do that...then all hell must have broken loose and its abandon ship..
The Helideck melted...the soft edges of the hole look very plastic..where the heat came from ? a ruptured pipe spewing gas ignited and then burnt out..who knows... it doesnt matter now..11 people died...and now the ocean will too unless we get very very very busy....THE MARTIN MARS fire bomber needs to be filled with DISPERSANT and get moving over the slick

The BOP's are on the sea floor, 5000' from the surface.

A minute or two is not a reasonable time frame.

They did this w/ ROV's & BOTH FAILED.

Too weird in my book.

These are well engineered devices, w/ many years of designer experience behind them.

They're still flying Martin Mars's ??
 Quoting: BatBoy



Aren't there major shut off devises on these things?

I mean I am not really into engineering but it would make common sense to have safety devises to shut off the oil.
This is why this doesn't make any sense.
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Re: We are all asking the same questions: Why is there a hole burned in the aluminum helideck? Pic of Oil rig after explosion !!!
my thoughts are we can drive stuff around on mars, can split hypothetical particles and cannot shut off an oil well.

We deserve everything we give ourselves.
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Re: We are all asking the same questions: Why is there a hole burned in the aluminum helideck? Pic of Oil rig after explosion !!!
A Catalyst...... just wait.


agree 100%

It's all gonna Burn here... no-one wants to accept that fact, since we've all got such comfortable & Blessed lives...

All over soon.

I stood outside today, 75, not-a-cloud, most-gorgeous... Life is GRAND... and thought about the things that are soon coming upon America... almost seems unbelievable, on a day like today.

But it's NOT unbelievable.. it's coming to the United States with swift fury.. Birth Pangs for a few seconds more... but with ever-increasing intensity...

*Boom!!!*

I've watched this progress, knowing that it would culminate in precisely this fashion,.. for 20 yrs... popcorn
I wondered the same thing...the beginning of woes. Look at Tennessee...tornadoes and the previous volcano and earthquakes. Stay tuned.


Just Wait, ETW...

We Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet.


Bout to get reeeeeally interesting here, IMHO.

(Too bad for US)

;)


The time line lately has really been coming upon us fast. If one just looks at all that has happen in just the first half of 2010 that alone should make one shake.

The time is coming....JMO
 Quoting: Cyndexia



The first coupla quarters of 2010 were/are just the Rollercoaster cresting Doom-Drop, Cyn.... about halfway down is where the track disappears into blackness...

Again... over 20 yrs of watching the various degradations of our Gov't & Society.. not to mention that of the World... it's all trended to what's happening right now..

2008 was the "Year of Tests"...... $4.00 Gasoline coupled w/ an outright theft of 50% of the wealth of all Americans... just to see what would happen.. & gauge..

The rug's about to be pulled for-real... at the time that the MSM's shouting 'Peace & Safety'....

Sudden Destruction.
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Re: We are all asking the same questions: Why is there a hole burned in the aluminum helideck? Pic of Oil rig after explosion !!!
Aren't there major shut off devises on these things?

I mean I am not really into engineering but it would make common sense to have safety devises to shut off the oil.
This is why this doesn't make any sense.
 Quoting: Cyndexia

From what I gathered last night their are hydraulically actuated ones controlled from the surface, then there is another one designed to auto actuate upon a major loss in pressure, then the manually activated last resort ones.

If I remember correctly there are 2 manual ones + 3 remote controlled ones, which were not operable due to the loss in power.
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The rug's about to be pulled for-real... at the time that the MSM's shouting 'Peace & Safety'....

Sudden Destruction.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

Prophecy in those words.
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A Catalyst...... just wait.


agree 100%

It's all gonna Burn here... no-one wants to accept that fact, since we've all got such comfortable & Blessed lives...

All over soon.

I stood outside today, 75, not-a-cloud, most-gorgeous... Life is GRAND... and thought about the things that are soon coming upon America... almost seems unbelievable, on a day like today.

But it's NOT unbelievable.. it's coming to the United States with swift fury.. Birth Pangs for a few seconds more... but with ever-increasing intensity...

*Boom!!!*

I've watched this progress, knowing that it would culminate in precisely this fashion,.. for 20 yrs... popcorn
I wondered the same thing...the beginning of woes. Look at Tennessee...tornadoes and the previous volcano and earthquakes. Stay tuned.


Just Wait, ETW...

We Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet.


Bout to get reeeeeally interesting here, IMHO.

(Too bad for US)

;)


The time line lately has really been coming upon us fast. If one just looks at all that has happen in just the first half of 2010 that alone should make one shake.

The time is coming....JMO



The first coupla quarters of 2010 were/are just the Rollercoaster cresting Doom-Drop, Cyn.... about halfway down is where the track disappears into blackness...

Again... over 20 yrs of watching the various degradations of our Gov't & Society.. not to mention that of the World... it's all trended to what's happening right now..

2008 was the "Year of Tests"...... $4.00 Gasoline coupled w/ an outright theft of 50% of the wealth of all Americans... just to see what would happen.. & gauge..

The rug's about to be pulled for-real... at the time that the MSM's shouting 'Peace & Safety'....

Sudden Destruction.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Sigh..... And we still move toward destruction....
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Re: We are all asking the same questions: Why is there a hole burned in the aluminum helideck? Pic of Oil rig after explosion !!!
wild guess here but a compressed jet of burning hot shit under it would burn a hole through it
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Nope it was certainly a particle beam weapon from aliens in outerspace...yeahsure
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2008 was the "Year of Tests"...... $4.00 Gasoline coupled w/ an outright theft of 50% of the wealth of all Americans... just to see what would happen.. & gauge..

The rug's about to be pulled for-real... at the time that the MSM's shouting 'Peace & Safety'....

Sudden Destruction.


Sigh..... And we still move toward destruction....
 Quoting: Cyndexia



Inexorably
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A Catalyst...... just wait.


agree 100%

It's all gonna Burn here... no-one wants to accept that fact, since we've all got such comfortable & Blessed lives...

All over soon.

I stood outside today, 75, not-a-cloud, most-gorgeous... Life is GRAND... and thought about the things that are soon coming upon America... almost seems unbelievable, on a day like today.

But it's NOT unbelievable.. it's coming to the United States with swift fury.. Birth Pangs for a few seconds more... but with ever-increasing intensity...

*Boom!!!*

I've watched this progress, knowing that it would culminate in precisely this fashion,.. for 20 yrs... popcorn
I wondered the same thing...the beginning of woes. Look at Tennessee...tornadoes and the previous volcano and earthquakes. Stay tuned.


Just Wait, ETW...

We Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet.


Bout to get reeeeeally interesting here, IMHO.

(Too bad for US)

;)


The time line lately has really been coming upon us fast. If one just looks at all that has happen in just the first half of 2010 that alone should make one shake.

The time is coming....JMO



The first coupla quarters of 2010 were/are just the Rollercoaster cresting Doom-Drop, Cyn.... about halfway down is where the track disappears into blackness...

Again... over 20 yrs of watching the various degradations of our Gov't & Society.. not to mention that of the World... it's all trended to what's happening right now..

2008 was the "Year of Tests"...... $4.00 Gasoline coupled w/ an outright theft of 50% of the wealth of all Americans... just to see what would happen.. & gauge..

The rug's about to be pulled for-real... at the time that the MSM's shouting 'Peace & Safety'....

Sudden Destruction.


Sigh..... And we still move toward destruction....
 Quoting: Cyndexia



Jer 8:11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Psa 4:8 I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for thou, YHWH, only makest me dwell in safety.
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Re: We are all asking the same questions: Why is there a hole burned in the aluminum helideck? Pic of Oil rig after explosion !!!
Aren't there major shut off devises on these things?

I mean I am not really into engineering but it would make common sense to have safety devises to shut off the oil.
This is why this doesn't make any sense.

From what I gathered last night their are hydraulically actuated ones controlled from the surface, then there is another one designed to auto actuate upon a major loss in pressure, then the manually activated last resort ones.

If I remember correctly there are 2 manual ones + 3 remote controlled ones, which were not operable due to the loss in power.
 Quoting: BatBoy


One would think that loosing power would have been the very first issue addressed. Does anyone know why they didn't get the 2 manual shut offs turned off?
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sketchy...
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It's called fire, fool. Fire is hot, fool.

I guess they never told you about fire on POX news.
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Dick, is that you?


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One would think that loosing power would have been the very first issue addressed. Does anyone know why they didn't get the 2 manual shut offs turned off?
 Quoting: Cyndexia

AFIK they tried to shut them off w/ ROV's. It's a fairly simple process of pulling a pin.

BOTH OF THEM FAILED.

There is some question as to weather T.O. modified them after Cameron delivered them.

Here's SHR's thread again for any newcomers here.


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Other Oddities:


Breaking: Suspicious Package Halts Times Sq. After Car Fire --Bomb Squad Using Robot to Inspect Suspicious Package In Vehicle's Back Seat 01 May 2010 An police investigation after a car fire is disrupting traffic, both on the roads and the sidewalks, in Times Square. Officials say there were no injuries in the car fire, but that there was a suspicious package in the vehicle's back seat... Bomb squad personnel then suited up and went in. Sources tell CBS 2 that gunpowder and gasoline were found inside the vehicle.

Gulf oil spill: The Halliburton connection 30 Apr 2010 Investigators delving into the possible cause of the massive gulf oil spill are focusing on the role of Houston-based Halliburton Co., the giant energy services company, which was responsible for cementing the drill into place below the water. The company acknowledged Friday that it had completed the final cementing of the oil well and pipe just 20 hours before the blowout last week. In a letter to Halliburton Chief Executive David J. Lesar on Friday, Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Beverly Hills) chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, and Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, called on Halliburton officials to provide all documents relating to "the possibility or risk of an explosion or blowout at the Deepwater Horizon rig and the status, adequacy, quality, monitoring, and inspection of the cementing work" by May 7.
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that is odd. Dick Cheney is in some lair rotfl'ing
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One would think that loosing power would have been the very first issue addressed. Does anyone know why they didn't get the 2 manual shut offs turned off?

AFIK they tried to shut them off w/ ROV's. It's a fairly simple process of pulling a pin.

BOTH OF THEM FAILED.

There is some question as to weather T.O. modified them after Cameron delivered them.

Here's SHR's thread again for any newcomers here.


Thread: Us mechanics, and this gulf rig disaster.....
 Quoting: BatBoy


Ummmmm
hmm
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Ummmmm
hmm
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My feelings exactly.

Might be nothing, BUT just coincidences ??

It's possible, not likely.

Could be the small screw in a perfect machine syndrome.
Drop it in & BOOM.
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Ummmmm
hmm

My feelings exactly.

Might be nothing, BUT just coincidences ??

It's possible, not likely.

Could be the small screw in a perfect machine syndrome.
Drop it in & BOOM.
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That in itself is a scary thought....
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maybe some one dropped a thermite grenade on the helicopter deck? by a helicopter?


there were reports of helicopters at was first to arrive at the scene...3 hours after a report of explosions on the oil rig by the united states coast guard...
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its amazing to me that people just fail to accept that accidents happen ..this shit happens ALL the time ... But NOOO has to be the NWO or GW Bush ... wtf is wrong with you people here latley ... NOT everything is a conspiracy ( Been a very long time since i said that ) ffs ...shit happens ... its just that its happening closer to home for you guys ...

Want to get freaked out about something ? ... Look how fucked up the education system is .... Look at how fucked up gang culture is ... something real !!
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although i agree with you, accidents have always happend, i think its a posotive thing that everyone questions it and doesnt just accept what were told.
that might not of been the case 10 years ago.
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I found it interesting that the mainstream media is picking up on this story.

hmm
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Any means to get the truth to the sheeple is good in my book.
Weather they'll believe it or not is another story.

The thing that jumped off the page at me is the Halliburton tie in.

I wouldn't put it past those war mongers to pull this kind of stunt.

Mega billions for them in the long run, if true.
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Here's a recent post in SHR's thread I feel is needed here.

[link to business.timesonline.co.uk]
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Here's a recent post in SHR's thread I feel is needed here.

[link to business.timesonline.co.uk]
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Thank You BB

Your right I think that we will start seeing the media pulling out some of the dirt on these guys during the next week....

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Thank You BB

Your right I think that we will start seeing the media pulling out some of the dirt on these guys during the next week....

hf
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It's too early to draw any conclusions yet, but if proven, will they be held accountable ??

Or will some poor SOB on the crew take the fall.

There are millions of people livings at stake here, not to mention the sea creatures, and when they wash up on shore and land creatures eat the remains, what then ??

To be honest I hope this is an act of GOD, we deserve it for doing a shitty job of being good stewards.

Take, take, take, without any regard for the place we live has been SOP for far too long.
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Can anyone decode this ?
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laugh
I tried & gave up.

Lets have a group laugh.

laugh laugh laugh laugh
It's a break from doom.





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