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OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?

 
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Okay here it is. We know the gulf is fucked now but what about fresh water rivers, lakes, streams etc. They generally flow toward the ocean not away... If the waters of the gulf which evaporate to form clouds, are full of oil will the oil also evaporate to now form oily rain.

If so they we have an even bigger problem regrading all natural sources of clean water.

If oil can rain from the clouds into our rivers and streams... what then?
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Okay here it is. We know the gulf is fucked now but what about fresh water rivers, lakes, streams etc. They generally flow toward the ocean not away... If the waters of the gulf which evaporate to form clouds, are full of oil will the oil also evaporate to now form oily rain.

If so they we have an even bigger problem regrading all natural sources of clean water.

If oil can rain from the clouds into our rivers and streams... what then?
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Elementary science tells you that only water molecules evaporate, not distillates or other debris dude.
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Oil doesn't evaporate, water does.
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Another genuinely stupid is as stupid does question on your favorite internet chat room, GLP!
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
Okay here it is. We know the gulf is fucked now but what about fresh water rivers, lakes, streams etc. They generally flow toward the ocean not away... If the waters of the gulf which evaporate to form clouds, are full of oil will the oil also evaporate to now form oily rain.

If so they we have an even bigger problem regrading all natural sources of clean water.

If oil can rain from the clouds into our rivers and streams... what then?
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the answer is : NO !!!!
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okay well thanks for the info. I was just asking a question and everything turns to gas at a certain temperature so oil would evaporate. I'm just wondering the effects on our clean water sources like freshwater lakes, rivers, and streams.
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
thanks for the answer Trinity.

Ya know I wasn't trying to be funny in starting the thread I was genuinely asking a question I didn't know the answer to.
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
uhh, the aromatic hydrocarbons DO evaporate (methane, benzene, propane, etc). They could play a part in global warming. The oil slick itself could affect evaporation and therefore hurricanes- as can the weather modification being applied to the area (offshore flow, decrease in hurricanes).
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
Darn...I asked this on a thread last night. Never got but one answer...guess you have to hit at the right time...lol. Even if it evaporates...would the rain be oily? And what would it all do to the weather?
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Oil doesn't evaporate, water does.
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Alcohol evaporates before water does; that's how stills work.

Are we sure that oil does not evaporate?
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I don't think anyone really knows, but, I agree with Trinity that if there is anything toxic connected to the oil, it could evaporate.
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
Yes kiddies, oil does evaporate. If it didn't you wouldn't be able to smell it.

Be aware of spill's air pollution risks

Published: Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 12:00 p.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 12:00 p.m.

With the nation's attention fixed on the oil spill in the Gulf, and the health and environmental hazards it poses, the American Lung Association is deeply concerned about Floridians. Harmful emissions from the spill could lead to adverse effects, especially for children, older adults and people with chronic lung disease, heart diseases and diabetes. Even healthy adults can experience coughing and shortness of breath, as well as potential life-threatening effects, such as asthma attacks and heart attacks.


The American Lung Association's State of the Air 2010 report, issued this week, provides grades for ozone and particle pollution, and it ranks cities and counties most polluted by these substances (see stateoftheair.org). Many Florida counties recognized in the report as having the cleanest air are on the Gulf and now susceptible not only to the dangers of this spill's emissions but the air pollution caused by burning the crude oil.

[link to www.heraldtribune.com]
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
while its true evaporation removes pollutants (same as distilling) the water vapor can get re-polluted by airborne contaminants...

so if there were some toxic gases and crap floating around in the air as a result of this slick they could get into the rain and cause acid rain easily enough...
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Really?
So I guess you wouldn't want to use OIL for any thing like lubrication? Huh?
Cause, using your logic...
It'd really suck ass in an engine.
And since it evaporates so quickly... I guess we ain't got to do shit to clean it up?
oh and those "oil" stains in my driveway, that have been there for years will be gone when I go outside this morning?
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
Yes kiddies, oil does evaporate. If it didn't you wouldn't be able to smell it.

Be aware of spill's air pollution risks

Published: Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 12:00 p.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 12:00 p.m.

With the nation's attention fixed on the oil spill in the Gulf, and the health and environmental hazards it poses, the American Lung Association is deeply concerned about Floridians. Harmful emissions from the spill could lead to adverse effects, especially for children, older adults and people with chronic lung disease, heart diseases and diabetes. Even healthy adults can experience coughing and shortness of breath, as well as potential life-threatening effects, such as asthma attacks and heart attacks.


The American Lung Association's State of the Air 2010 report, issued this week, provides grades for ozone and particle pollution, and it ranks cities and counties most polluted by these substances (see stateoftheair.org). Many Florida counties recognized in the report as having the cleanest air are on the Gulf and now susceptible not only to the dangers of this spill's emissions but the air pollution caused by burning the crude oil.

[link to www.heraldtribune.com]
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Well, if it can get into the air we breathe, then it can get into the clouds and the rain as well.
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
If you want to understand how oil evaporates you need to know how evaporation really works.
Evaporation happens when a molecule has enough energy to leave its fellow liquid molecules
surrounding it. For any given temperature, or energy, the smaller molecules will move quicker
than the larger molecules. Think about kicking a soccer ball versus kicking a bowling ball. OF
COURSE I DO NOT RECOMMEND KICKING A BOWLING BALL. However, if you imagined it, the soccer ball
will travel much faster than the bowling ball. This is what happens in oil. The temperature is
the energy from your "foot" and the 10 balls that have 10 different masses are the molecules in
the oil. Now you can imagine that over a long period of time the lighter molecules will tend to
evaporate away leaving the larger and heavier molecules behind.

"Oil" can be a lot of different things. It could be the "stuff" you put into a car's engine. It
could be what you cook with. It could be what you put on a bicycle chain. Many liquids and
solids have a certain amount that is also present as a gas or vapor. Water is an example. The
amount of the gas or vapor depends upon what the chemical makeup of the liquid or solid is, and
upon the temperature. Again, using water as an example, at the boiling point there is a lot of
water present as a gas, so it evaporates
fast, but at the freezing point there is much less water present as a vapor or gas so ice (solid
water) does not evaporate very quickly. Most things that we think of as being oils do not have
very much of the liquid present as a gas, so they do not usually evaporate quickly at room
temperature. However, if the oil is heated to high enough temperature it can evaporate too.

Vince Calder

[link to www.newton.dep.anl.gov]

If they start burning it off down there, I think we should worry ... Also, hurricanes can bring the oil inland ...
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
This oil could affect sea levels and problem of water evaporation...slow doom on its way

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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
oil doesn't evoparate, but the fumes of the oil can. So when the ocean water evaporates, it will likely carry some of the oil fumes with it.
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We have rain and thunderstorms coming into Florida later today. I was looking at the radar and some of the storms that are coming towards us are building up over the oil spill. I am wondering if the could bring toxic rainfall to us.
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We have rain and thunderstorms coming into Florida later today. I was looking at the radar and some of the storms that are coming towards us are building up over the oil spill. I am wondering if the could bring toxic rainfall to us.
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it won't be normal rain thats for sure
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Damn I was hoping O.P. was not american. figures.
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Damn I was hoping O.P. was not american. figures.
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lol
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premonition song...

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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
uhh, the aromatic hydrocarbons DO evaporate (methane, benzene, propane, etc). They could play a part in global warming. The oil slick itself could affect evaporation and therefore hurricanes- as can the weather modification being applied to the area (offshore flow, decrease in hurricanes).
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Yep, it will affect the fresh water to some degree
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
If you want to understand how oil evaporates you need to know how evaporation really works.
Evaporation happens when a molecule has enough energy to leave its fellow liquid molecules
surrounding it. For any given temperature, or energy, the smaller molecules will move quicker
than the larger molecules. Think about kicking a soccer ball versus kicking a bowling ball. OF
COURSE I DO NOT RECOMMEND KICKING A BOWLING BALL. However, if you imagined it, the soccer ball
will travel much faster than the bowling ball. This is what happens in oil. The temperature is
the energy from your "foot" and the 10 balls that have 10 different masses are the molecules in
the oil. Now you can imagine that over a long period of time the lighter molecules will tend to
evaporate away leaving the larger and heavier molecules behind.

"Oil" can be a lot of different things. It could be the "stuff" you put into a car's engine. It
could be what you cook with. It could be what you put on a bicycle chain. Many liquids and
solids have a certain amount that is also present as a gas or vapor. Water is an example. The
amount of the gas or vapor depends upon what the chemical makeup of the liquid or solid is, and
upon the temperature. Again, using water as an example, at the boiling point there is a lot of
water present as a gas, so it evaporates
fast, but at the freezing point there is much less water present as a vapor or gas so ice (solid
water) does not evaporate very quickly. Most things that we think of as being oils do not have
very much of the liquid present as a gas, so they do not usually evaporate quickly at room
temperature. However, if the oil is heated to high enough temperature it can evaporate too.

Vince Calder

[link to www.newton.dep.anl.gov]

If they start burning it off down there, I think we should worry ... Also, hurricanes can bring the oil inland ...
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If you can smell it, then there is some vapor there, yes?
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
while its true evaporation removes pollutants (same as distilling) the water vapor can get re-polluted by airborne contaminants...

so if there were some toxic gases and crap floating around in the air as a result of this slick they could get into the rain and cause acid rain easily enough...

Really?
So I guess you wouldn't want to use OIL for any thing like lubrication? Huh?
Cause, using your logic...
It'd really suck ass in an engine.
And since it evaporates so quickly... I guess we ain't got to do shit to clean it up?
oh and those "oil" stains in my driveway, that have been there for years will be gone when I go outside this morning?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926196


It evaporates just a lot slower, We speed it through the distillation process (heat) to get the various products we use
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
If you want to understand how oil evaporates you need to know how evaporation really works.
Evaporation happens when a molecule has enough energy to leave its fellow liquid molecules
surrounding it. For any given temperature, or energy, the smaller molecules will move quicker
than the larger molecules. Think about kicking a soccer ball versus kicking a bowling ball. OF
COURSE I DO NOT RECOMMEND KICKING A BOWLING BALL. However, if you imagined it, the soccer ball
will travel much faster than the bowling ball. This is what happens in oil. The temperature is
the energy from your "foot" and the 10 balls that have 10 different masses are the molecules in
the oil. Now you can imagine that over a long period of time the lighter molecules will tend to
evaporate away leaving the larger and heavier molecules behind.

"Oil" can be a lot of different things. It could be the "stuff" you put into a car's engine. It
could be what you cook with. It could be what you put on a bicycle chain. Many liquids and
solids have a certain amount that is also present as a gas or vapor. Water is an example. The
amount of the gas or vapor depends upon what the chemical makeup of the liquid or solid is, and
upon the temperature. Again, using water as an example, at the boiling point there is a lot of
water present as a gas, so it evaporates
fast, but at the freezing point there is much less water present as a vapor or gas so ice (solid
water) does not evaporate very quickly. Most things that we think of as being oils do not have
very much of the liquid present as a gas, so they do not usually evaporate quickly at room
temperature. However, if the oil is heated to high enough temperature it can evaporate too.

Vince Calder

[link to www.newton.dep.anl.gov]

If they start burning it off down there, I think we should worry ... Also, hurricanes can bring the oil inland ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323774


The water temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico for May average from 78-82 degrees. That temperature increases during the summer months to as high as 87 degrees. The Gulf of Mexico water temperatures are higher than the Atlantic ocean. I would think that higher water temperatures would have some bearing on the possibility of evaporation.

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Great question, OP!!!! We can all use a refresher course.
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Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain?
Okay here it is. We know the gulf is fucked now but what about fresh water rivers, lakes, streams etc. They generally flow toward the ocean not away... If the waters of the gulf which evaporate to form clouds, are full of oil will the oil also evaporate to now form oily rain.

If so they we have an even bigger problem regrading all natural sources of clean water.

If oil can rain from the clouds into our rivers and streams... what then?
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fucking hell, do you yanks have an education system?
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Elementary science tells you that only water molecules evaporate, not distillates or other debris dude.
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fucking hell, do you yanks have an education system?
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Oil doesn't evaporate, water does.
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fukcing hell, do you yanks have an education system?
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Really?
So I guess you wouldn't want to use OIL for any thing like lubrication? Huh?
Cause, using your logic...
It'd really suck ass in an engine.
And since it evaporates so quickly... I guess we ain't got to do shit to clean it up?
oh and those "oil" stains in my driveway, that have been there for years will be gone when I go outside this morning?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926196



fucking hell, do you yanks have an education system?





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