OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? | |
Useful RepEATER Those who know the least obey the best: G.F. User ID: 261825 United States 05/03/2010 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? Okay here it is. We know the gulf is fucked now but what about fresh water rivers, lakes, streams etc. They generally flow toward the ocean not away... If the waters of the gulf which evaporate to form clouds, are full of oil will the oil also evaporate to now form oily rain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 944548If so they we have an even bigger problem regrading all natural sources of clean water. If oil can rain from the clouds into our rivers and streams... what then? Elementary science tells you that only water molecules evaporate, not distillates or other debris dude. Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 959956 France 05/03/2010 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? Okay here it is. We know the gulf is fucked now but what about fresh water rivers, lakes, streams etc. They generally flow toward the ocean not away... If the waters of the gulf which evaporate to form clouds, are full of oil will the oil also evaporate to now form oily rain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 944548If so they we have an even bigger problem regrading all natural sources of clean water. If oil can rain from the clouds into our rivers and streams... what then? the answer is : NO !!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 941293 India 05/03/2010 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? uhh, the aromatic hydrocarbons DO evaporate (methane, benzene, propane, etc). They could play a part in global warming. The oil slick itself could affect evaporation and therefore hurricanes- as can the weather modification being applied to the area (offshore flow, decrease in hurricanes). |
weegie User ID: 960186 United Kingdom 05/03/2010 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? Darn...I asked this on a thread last night. Never got but one answer...guess you have to hit at the right time...lol. Even if it evaporates...would the rain be oily? And what would it all do to the weather? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 818303 United States 05/04/2010 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? Yes kiddies, oil does evaporate. If it didn't you wouldn't be able to smell it. Be aware of spill's air pollution risks Published: Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 12:00 p.m. Last Modified: Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 12:00 p.m. With the nation's attention fixed on the oil spill in the Gulf, and the health and environmental hazards it poses, the American Lung Association is deeply concerned about Floridians. Harmful emissions from the spill could lead to adverse effects, especially for children, older adults and people with chronic lung disease, heart diseases and diabetes. Even healthy adults can experience coughing and shortness of breath, as well as potential life-threatening effects, such as asthma attacks and heart attacks. The American Lung Association's State of the Air 2010 report, issued this week, provides grades for ozone and particle pollution, and it ranks cities and counties most polluted by these substances (see stateoftheair.org). Many Florida counties recognized in the report as having the cleanest air are on the Gulf and now susceptible not only to the dangers of this spill's emissions but the air pollution caused by burning the crude oil. [link to www.heraldtribune.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 926196 United States 05/04/2010 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? while its true evaporation removes pollutants (same as distilling) the water vapor can get re-polluted by airborne contaminants... Quoting: ^TrInItY^so if there were some toxic gases and crap floating around in the air as a result of this slick they could get into the rain and cause acid rain easily enough... Really? So I guess you wouldn't want to use OIL for any thing like lubrication? Huh? Cause, using your logic... It'd really suck ass in an engine. And since it evaporates so quickly... I guess we ain't got to do shit to clean it up? oh and those "oil" stains in my driveway, that have been there for years will be gone when I go outside this morning? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 845302 United States 05/04/2010 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? Yes kiddies, oil does evaporate. If it didn't you wouldn't be able to smell it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 818303Be aware of spill's air pollution risks Published: Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 12:00 p.m. Last Modified: Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 12:00 p.m. With the nation's attention fixed on the oil spill in the Gulf, and the health and environmental hazards it poses, the American Lung Association is deeply concerned about Floridians. Harmful emissions from the spill could lead to adverse effects, especially for children, older adults and people with chronic lung disease, heart diseases and diabetes. Even healthy adults can experience coughing and shortness of breath, as well as potential life-threatening effects, such as asthma attacks and heart attacks. The American Lung Association's State of the Air 2010 report, issued this week, provides grades for ozone and particle pollution, and it ranks cities and counties most polluted by these substances (see stateoftheair.org). Many Florida counties recognized in the report as having the cleanest air are on the Gulf and now susceptible not only to the dangers of this spill's emissions but the air pollution caused by burning the crude oil. [link to www.heraldtribune.com] Well, if it can get into the air we breathe, then it can get into the clouds and the rain as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 323774 United States 05/04/2010 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? If you want to understand how oil evaporates you need to know how evaporation really works. Evaporation happens when a molecule has enough energy to leave its fellow liquid molecules surrounding it. For any given temperature, or energy, the smaller molecules will move quicker than the larger molecules. Think about kicking a soccer ball versus kicking a bowling ball. OF COURSE I DO NOT RECOMMEND KICKING A BOWLING BALL. However, if you imagined it, the soccer ball will travel much faster than the bowling ball. This is what happens in oil. The temperature is the energy from your "foot" and the 10 balls that have 10 different masses are the molecules in the oil. Now you can imagine that over a long period of time the lighter molecules will tend to evaporate away leaving the larger and heavier molecules behind. "Oil" can be a lot of different things. It could be the "stuff" you put into a car's engine. It could be what you cook with. It could be what you put on a bicycle chain. Many liquids and solids have a certain amount that is also present as a gas or vapor. Water is an example. The amount of the gas or vapor depends upon what the chemical makeup of the liquid or solid is, and upon the temperature. Again, using water as an example, at the boiling point there is a lot of water present as a gas, so it evaporates fast, but at the freezing point there is much less water present as a vapor or gas so ice (solid water) does not evaporate very quickly. Most things that we think of as being oils do not have very much of the liquid present as a gas, so they do not usually evaporate quickly at room temperature. However, if the oil is heated to high enough temperature it can evaporate too. Vince Calder [link to www.newton.dep.anl.gov] If they start burning it off down there, I think we should worry ... Also, hurricanes can bring the oil inland ... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 958283 United States 05/04/2010 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? We have rain and thunderstorms coming into Florida later today. I was looking at the radar and some of the storms that are coming towards us are building up over the oil spill. I am wondering if the could bring toxic rainfall to us. |
nott2000 User ID: 953582 Australia 05/04/2010 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? We have rain and thunderstorms coming into Florida later today. I was looking at the radar and some of the storms that are coming towards us are building up over the oil spill. I am wondering if the could bring toxic rainfall to us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958283it won't be normal rain thats for sure |
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dschis1000 User ID: 658956 United States 05/04/2010 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? uhh, the aromatic hydrocarbons DO evaporate (methane, benzene, propane, etc). They could play a part in global warming. The oil slick itself could affect evaporation and therefore hurricanes- as can the weather modification being applied to the area (offshore flow, decrease in hurricanes). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941293Yep, it will affect the fresh water to some degree |
dschis1000 User ID: 658956 United States 05/04/2010 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? If you want to understand how oil evaporates you need to know how evaporation really works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323774Evaporation happens when a molecule has enough energy to leave its fellow liquid molecules surrounding it. For any given temperature, or energy, the smaller molecules will move quicker than the larger molecules. Think about kicking a soccer ball versus kicking a bowling ball. OF COURSE I DO NOT RECOMMEND KICKING A BOWLING BALL. However, if you imagined it, the soccer ball will travel much faster than the bowling ball. This is what happens in oil. The temperature is the energy from your "foot" and the 10 balls that have 10 different masses are the molecules in the oil. Now you can imagine that over a long period of time the lighter molecules will tend to evaporate away leaving the larger and heavier molecules behind. "Oil" can be a lot of different things. It could be the "stuff" you put into a car's engine. It could be what you cook with. It could be what you put on a bicycle chain. Many liquids and solids have a certain amount that is also present as a gas or vapor. Water is an example. The amount of the gas or vapor depends upon what the chemical makeup of the liquid or solid is, and upon the temperature. Again, using water as an example, at the boiling point there is a lot of water present as a gas, so it evaporates fast, but at the freezing point there is much less water present as a vapor or gas so ice (solid water) does not evaporate very quickly. Most things that we think of as being oils do not have very much of the liquid present as a gas, so they do not usually evaporate quickly at room temperature. However, if the oil is heated to high enough temperature it can evaporate too. Vince Calder [link to www.newton.dep.anl.gov] If they start burning it off down there, I think we should worry ... Also, hurricanes can bring the oil inland ... If you can smell it, then there is some vapor there, yes? |
dschis1000 User ID: 658956 United States 05/04/2010 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? while its true evaporation removes pollutants (same as distilling) the water vapor can get re-polluted by airborne contaminants... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926196so if there were some toxic gases and crap floating around in the air as a result of this slick they could get into the rain and cause acid rain easily enough... Really? So I guess you wouldn't want to use OIL for any thing like lubrication? Huh? Cause, using your logic... It'd really suck ass in an engine. And since it evaporates so quickly... I guess we ain't got to do shit to clean it up? oh and those "oil" stains in my driveway, that have been there for years will be gone when I go outside this morning? It evaporates just a lot slower, We speed it through the distillation process (heat) to get the various products we use |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 958283 United States 05/04/2010 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? If you want to understand how oil evaporates you need to know how evaporation really works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323774Evaporation happens when a molecule has enough energy to leave its fellow liquid molecules surrounding it. For any given temperature, or energy, the smaller molecules will move quicker than the larger molecules. Think about kicking a soccer ball versus kicking a bowling ball. OF COURSE I DO NOT RECOMMEND KICKING A BOWLING BALL. However, if you imagined it, the soccer ball will travel much faster than the bowling ball. This is what happens in oil. The temperature is the energy from your "foot" and the 10 balls that have 10 different masses are the molecules in the oil. Now you can imagine that over a long period of time the lighter molecules will tend to evaporate away leaving the larger and heavier molecules behind. "Oil" can be a lot of different things. It could be the "stuff" you put into a car's engine. It could be what you cook with. It could be what you put on a bicycle chain. Many liquids and solids have a certain amount that is also present as a gas or vapor. Water is an example. The amount of the gas or vapor depends upon what the chemical makeup of the liquid or solid is, and upon the temperature. Again, using water as an example, at the boiling point there is a lot of water present as a gas, so it evaporates fast, but at the freezing point there is much less water present as a vapor or gas so ice (solid water) does not evaporate very quickly. Most things that we think of as being oils do not have very much of the liquid present as a gas, so they do not usually evaporate quickly at room temperature. However, if the oil is heated to high enough temperature it can evaporate too. Vince Calder [link to www.newton.dep.anl.gov] If they start burning it off down there, I think we should worry ... Also, hurricanes can bring the oil inland ... The water temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico for May average from 78-82 degrees. That temperature increases during the summer months to as high as 87 degrees. The Gulf of Mexico water temperatures are higher than the Atlantic ocean. I would think that higher water temperatures would have some bearing on the possibility of evaporation. [link to www.beachhunter.net] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 657943 Turkey 05/04/2010 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? Okay here it is. We know the gulf is fucked now but what about fresh water rivers, lakes, streams etc. They generally flow toward the ocean not away... If the waters of the gulf which evaporate to form clouds, are full of oil will the oil also evaporate to now form oily rain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 944548If so they we have an even bigger problem regrading all natural sources of clean water. If oil can rain from the clouds into our rivers and streams... what then? fucking hell, do you yanks have an education system? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 657943 Turkey 05/04/2010 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OIL - Concerning our Water Table.... Can oil in the gulf Evaporate Into the Clouds to make rain? Really? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926196So I guess you wouldn't want to use OIL for any thing like lubrication? Huh? Cause, using your logic... It'd really suck ass in an engine. And since it evaporates so quickly... I guess we ain't got to do shit to clean it up? oh and those "oil" stains in my driveway, that have been there for years will be gone when I go outside this morning? fucking hell, do you yanks have an education system? |