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The Earth's Crust- Plate Tectonics- and the Gulf of Mexico

 
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Some things I am just considering during this oil mess.

1. In the mid-ocean, the thickness of the crust can be as little as 5 km. The entire crust occupies just 1% of the Earth's volume.

The crust is composed of a variety of igneous, metamorphic and sedimentary rocks gathered together into tectonic plates. These plates float above the Earth's mantle, and it's believed that convection of rock in the mantle causes the plates to slide around.

[link to www.universetoday.com]

2. Oceanic crust:
As the name already suggests, this crust is below the oceans. There, the crust is 4-7 miles (6-11 km) thick. The rocks of the oceanic crust are very young compared with the rocks of the continental crust. The rocks of the oceanic crust are not older than 200 million years. The material of which the oceanic crust consists is for the greater part tholeiitic basalt (this is basalt without olivine). Basalt has a dark, fine and gritty volcanic structure. It is formed out of very liquid lava, which cools off quickly. The grains are so small that they are only visible under a microscope. The average density of the oceanic crust is 3g/cm³.

[link to mediatheek.thinkquest.nl]

3. In many respects the geology of the Gulf of Mexico is better understood than other comparable marginal seas due primarily to its long history of drilling and reflection seismic acquisition by the petroleum industry. However, the petroleum accumulations and thick Tertiary section that attract industry also restrict scientific ocean drilling. To date only the carbonate margin of the southern Gulf and Quaternary fans in the deep eastern basin have been targeted. Discovering new details of the nature and timing of the opening of the Gulf basin, therefore, presents a considerable challenge. The goal of this ongoing study is to determine whether the opening of the Gulf of Mexico is a predictable manifestation of the planetary-scale superswell-related mantle stresses that drive the movements of major plates and to evaluate implications for Gulf of Mexico petroleum systems.

Predicting microplate kinematics within the poorly defined boundary zone that separates North Atlantic and South Atlantic spreading is pivotal in this analysis. It is postulated that the movements of continental microplates in the Gulf of Mexico are driven by mantle stresses that moved first North America and then South America away from Africa.

Outcropping and drilled Mesozoic strata of the Gulf rim, the presence of buried plume-related alkalic basaltic volcanoes of middle and Late Cretaceous age, and the geometric requirement that the Yucatan Platform be rotated into a position along the Texas - Louisiana margin to allow the reassembly of Pangea are the principal constraints on the origin of the Gulf of Mexico. There is general agreement among researchers that the opening of the western basin of the Gulf of Mexico reflects the counterclockwise rotation of a Yucatan microplate. Following recently published paleomagnetic evidence the Chiapas portion of the Maya Block is treated as a separate microplate in this study. It is recognized that the rotation of a Yucatan microplate about the relatively well-known Euler rotation poles that opened the North Atlantic Ocean cannot account for the most probable trajectory of Yucatan. Published opening solutions designed to provide an ideal Yucatan trajectory are purely kinematic, not addressing the implications of a unique Gulf of Mexico stress field on planetary-scale mantle processes that drive plate motions.

[link to www.searchanddiscovery.net]


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I am no scientist, but I think there is a correlation here with the oil leak.
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The goal of this ongoing study is to determine whether the opening of the Gulf of Mexico is a predictable manifestation of the planetary-scale superswell-related mantle stresses that drive the movements of major plates and to evaluate implications for Gulf of Mexico petroleum systems.

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I think the "implications" are pretty clear right about now....
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yeah!!! so lets just send a NUKE down there !!
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Yeah Tazz...that will fix it right up!

damned
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What did the study find out?
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What did the study find out?
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Basically, it says that Central America and Yucatan are rotating in toward the Gulf and will no longer be a land mass joining N America to S America.

The plates are unstable in that region.
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Think about all the action there lately. A massive EQ in Haiti. A massive EQ in Chili. And now this.
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Watch the video. There is no subduction of the plates.
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Don't forget the Chicxulub crater the whole area no doubt has fractures and such.
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i don't pretend to understand this situation. I do how ever think that all the ideas they have to fix it are BS.

this is bad... very very bad....
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Watch the video. There is no subduction of the plates.
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Neal Adams is a comic book and commercial artist. So he has a theory and can use his many talents to promote it?
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Watch the video. There is no subduction of the plates.




Neal Adams is a comic book and commercial artist. So he has a theory and can use his many talents to promote it?
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Why can't he?

Anyone who still has doubt about whether or not science is lying to us about a great many things-- and the history of humanity in particular-- really needs a lot more time researching.

It shouldn't even be a question for anyone anymore.

And if they're lying about so many other things about our history and past, why would we just assume (despite all evidence to the contrary) that they're being honest about THIS despite their lies about everything else?
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Why can't he?

Anyone who still has doubt about whether or not science is lying to us about a great many things-- and the history of humanity in particular-- really needs a lot more time researching.

It shouldn't even be a question for anyone anymore.

And if they're lying about so many other things about our history and past, why would we just assume (despite all evidence to the contrary) that they're being honest about THIS despite their lies about everything else?
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He can have his theories. We all can. But that doesn't make his theory the truth does it?

BTW, did you watch the rebuttal video?
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Why can't he?

Anyone who still has doubt about whether or not science is lying to us about a great many things-- and the history of humanity in particular-- really needs a lot more time researching.

It shouldn't even be a question for anyone anymore.

And if they're lying about so many other things about our history and past, why would we just assume (despite all evidence to the contrary) that they're being honest about THIS despite their lies about everything else?


He can have his theories. We all can. But that doesn't make his theory the truth does it?

BTW, did you watch the rebuttal video?
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I watched it. It doesn't do much except say, "oh, look at these two added things." Which frankly, doesn't really address the larger question.

Okay, so they don't fit together perfectly, and he put in the two relatively tiny missing land masses. The debunking video doesn't address the stretched appearance of the underwater areas. It doesn't address the fact that without those two land masses, the rest fit together. Those areas could have been seas or could have sunk.

It doesn't address the fact that Mars also shows stretching instead of subduction.

In general, it takes one snippet and tries to discredit the entire thing based on, "Well, you added in two masses."

I'll grant that it wasn't particularly responsible of him to put those two masses in there. However, it doesn't really change much in the over-all theory.
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Sandi T. I don't really want to get in a debate with you over the expanding earth theory. You want to believe it, I have no problem with that.

What I am saying is that the plates in that area have been under a lot of pressure. And like Fhirrine said, there are likely many smaller fractures.


Everything that can be presented about what's beneath our feet is more theory than not. No one knows for sure because no one can get down there to find out.

But it's obviously not as stable and secure as we like to think.
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I think that it would be easier to get to the truth of some of these things, if our science/ scientists were honest. And if we knew more about our past, we could tell if this were actually predictable or not.

The crust of the Earth seems to be in turmoil everywhere lately. I've been watching and noticing all the earthquakes all over the world. In place that are supposed to be the middle of plates, even. Where there are no "seams" or tectonic bumping (assuming there is any at all, anywhere).

The crust of the entire Earth seems to be extremely unstable right now. And I can't help but wonder why, and believe that someone knows it. Whoever does know it isn't saying anything.

If they aren't telling the truth about the makeup of the crust, then it makes you wonder if that's why they're not telling us that something is going on. Nor what.

Say (as just a silly example) the Earth were beginning an expansion phase. Imagine that the Sun's intense heating up is causing the core temperature of Earth to increase-- and possibly altering its magnetic and gravitational fields.

If that were the case, they couldn't tell us. Because in doing so, they would have to admit that they lied to begin with. Or didn't know.

This would make them fallible, and people would question pretty much all of what they've been told. Both arrogance and a misguided sense of loyalty could prevent honesty.

There are many things that could be happening. We could be under stress from our solar system entering the Milky Way (which, it now appears, isn't actually our galaxy, but is instead swallowing us up). Perhaps Nibiru is real and is coming into our solar system.

Over-all, I think that the fact is that the changes in the Earth's crust are being strongly ignored. And that's a problem. A big one.

JMO.
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I think that it would be easier to get to the truth of some of these things, if our science/ scientists were honest. And if we knew more about our past, we could tell if this were actually predictable or not.

The crust of the Earth seems to be in turmoil everywhere lately. I've been watching and noticing all the earthquakes all over the world. In place that are supposed to be the middle of plates, even. Where there are no "seams" or tectonic bumping (assuming there is any at all, anywhere).

The crust of the entire Earth seems to be extremely unstable right now. And I can't help but wonder why, and believe that someone knows it. Whoever does know it isn't saying anything.

If they aren't telling the truth about the makeup of the crust, then it makes you wonder if that's why they're not telling us that something is going on. Nor what.

Say (as just a silly example) the Earth were beginning an expansion phase. Imagine that the Sun's intense heating up is causing the core temperature of Earth to increase-- and possibly altering its magnetic and gravitational fields.

If that were the case, they couldn't tell us. Because in doing so, they would have to admit that they lied to begin with. Or didn't know.

This would make them fallible, and people would question pretty much all of what they've been told. Both arrogance and a misguided sense of loyalty could prevent honesty.

There are many things that could be happening. We could be under stress from our solar system entering the Milky Way (which, it now appears, isn't actually our galaxy, but is instead swallowing us up). Perhaps Nibiru is real and is coming into our solar system.

Over-all, I think that the fact is that the changes in the Earth's crust are being strongly ignored. And that's a problem. A big one.

JMO.
 Quoting: Sandi_T



I agree. They are either being ignored, or down-played, or not even connected. And if they are being connected, we are not being told.

There's lots of speculation and lots of different theories. I don't particularly buy mainstream science as fact either.

Thanks for the post.
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Some things I am just considering during this oil mess.

1. In the mid-ocean, the thickness of the crust can be as little as 5 km. The entire crust occupies just 1% of the Earth's volume.

The crust is composed of a variety of igneous, metamorphic and sedimentary rocks gathered together into tectonic plates. These plates float above the Earth's mantle, and it's believed that convection of rock in the mantle causes the plates to slide around.

[link to www.universetoday.com]

2. Oceanic crust:
As the name already suggests, this crust is below the oceans. There, the crust is 4-7 miles (6-11 km) thick. The rocks of the oceanic crust are very young compared with the rocks of the continental crust. The rocks of the oceanic crust are not older than 200 million years. The material of which the oceanic crust consists is for the greater part tholeiitic basalt (this is basalt without olivine). Basalt has a dark, fine and gritty volcanic structure. It is formed out of very liquid lava, which cools off quickly. The grains are so small that they are only visible under a microscope. The average density of the oceanic crust is 3g/cm³.

[link to mediatheek.thinkquest.nl]

3. In many respects the geology of the Gulf of Mexico is better understood than other comparable marginal seas due primarily to its long history of drilling and reflection seismic acquisition by the petroleum industry. However, the petroleum accumulations and thick Tertiary section that attract industry also restrict scientific ocean drilling. To date only the carbonate margin of the southern Gulf and Quaternary fans in the deep eastern basin have been targeted. Discovering new details of the nature and timing of the opening of the Gulf basin, therefore, presents a considerable challenge. The goal of this ongoing study is to determine whether the opening of the Gulf of Mexico is a predictable manifestation of the planetary-scale superswell-related mantle stresses that drive the movements of major plates and to evaluate implications for Gulf of Mexico petroleum systems.

Predicting microplate kinematics within the poorly defined boundary zone that separates North Atlantic and South Atlantic spreading is pivotal in this analysis. It is postulated that the movements of continental microplates in the Gulf of Mexico are driven by mantle stresses that moved first North America and then South America away from Africa.

Outcropping and drilled Mesozoic strata of the Gulf rim, the presence of buried plume-related alkalic basaltic volcanoes of middle and Late Cretaceous age, and the geometric requirement that the Yucatan Platform be rotated into a position along the Texas - Louisiana margin to allow the reassembly of Pangea are the principal constraints on the origin of the Gulf of Mexico. There is general agreement among researchers that the opening of the western basin of the Gulf of Mexico reflects the counterclockwise rotation of a Yucatan microplate. Following recently published paleomagnetic evidence the Chiapas portion of the Maya Block is treated as a separate microplate in this study. It is recognized that the rotation of a Yucatan microplate about the relatively well-known Euler rotation poles that opened the North Atlantic Ocean cannot account for the most probable trajectory of Yucatan. Published opening solutions designed to provide an ideal Yucatan trajectory are purely kinematic, not addressing the implications of a unique Gulf of Mexico stress field on planetary-scale mantle processes that drive plate motions.

[link to www.searchanddiscovery.net]


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I am no scientist, but I think there is a correlation here with the oil leak.
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I don't know what any of this has to do with the oil leak, but all the stuff about plate tectonics is bunkum.

Plate tectonics was proposed at a time when very little was known about what was under the oceans. Unfortunately most of the evidence for and against it is under the oceans.

Now that we know a lot more about the seafloor it is clear that Plate tectonics simply doesn't work as a theory. However it works fine in computer models and it is continually being refined in those models, even though the data used in the models is false.

But don't believe me, instead look at the opinion of one who knows more about the seafloor than probably anyone else.

N. Christian Smoot

PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND:

Employed by the Ocean Survey Program of the US Naval Oceanographic Office 1966-1975, 1977-1998- career consisted of 20 years of deep-ocean data collection (took 67 cruises and logged over 600,000 nautical miles at sea) in bathymetry, gravity, magnetics, and physical oceanography; progressing through state of the art technology of data collection from hand surveying and processing methods to full computer suite including transponders, inertial navigation, Transit and GPS satellite navigation, LORAN-C and Omega; single-beam sonar; SASS, Seabeam, and Simrad multibeam sonars; SeaMARC II side-scan sonar; sound velocity studies using Nansen casts, salinometers, Niskin samplers, and expendable bathythermo-graphs; found missing submarine, USS SCORPION, in June 1968; was senior scientist from 1981 until 1988 – 30 years of office work consisted of data compilation of thousands of point charts and a couple of hundred regional charts over the years, training others including updating the training manual four times, many special projects, and publishing results; 34 feature names accepted by US Board on Geographic Names; retired April 1998 with 18 work-related awards

Fun-in-the-Sun Things: worked on the JOIDES/USSAC Seamount Working Group for the Ocean Drilling Program; reviewed many NSF and ONR proposals during the 1980s and 1990s; was selected to get classified SASS bathymetry published in the 1970s, my part initially being guyots; moved into subduction zones and fracture zones by the mid-1980s; discovered orthogonally intersecting fracture zones in 1990, lack of deep earthquakes at subduction zones in 1991; adopted surge tectonic hypothesis for all writing in 1994; kept publishing after retirement, including the two books on ocean floor geomorphology; other papers published on anthropology



Honors: Who’s Who in Science and Engineering, 4th Edition (Marquis; 1998)

Who’s Who in Science and Engineering, 5th Edition (Marquis; 2000)

Outstanding People of the Twentieth Century (International Biographical Centre; 2000)

And here's what he has to say about Plate tectonics as well as some other theories.

[link to www.scientificexploration.org]

Plate tectonics is a lie and it needs to be exposed as such.
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[link to www.scientificexploration.org]

Plate tectonics is a lie and it needs to be exposed as such.
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Thanks for the link. I am on my way to work and will definitely look into it when I get back.

I'm not saying I have any answers. Answers are what I am looking for. Something is going on down there.
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Sandi, you are AWESOME!

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Why did they hide this from us so long, oh, yeah, forgot, if the earth is expanding, it means sustainable development is not really as big an issue as we thought. Got to cull the herds, can't have too many good people around to offset the goals of the evil people, I forget sometimes who rules this world. Silly me.
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There are those who believe that the Gulf is tectonically active. One is New Orleans independent geologist Jack M. Reed. According to him, the Gulf was and is tectonically active -- and it is the likely origin for not only the New Madrid seismic activity, but also for the Middleton Place-Summerville seismic zone near Charleston, S.C. So what are we to make of Mr. Reed? He says , 'not much'. But he does say that " if you want waterfront property, you should buy land around Indianapolis."
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bump cause I knew from the start they are messing with shit they have no idea about.

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