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Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion

 
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Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion
This is translated directly from Russian, cleaned it up a bit but reading it at the link is better.

Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion

Vladimir Lagowski - 03/05/2010

It is possible that unsuccessful attempts to stop the leakage of oil from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico through the underwater robots compel professionals to take extreme measures. Namely - to blow up next to the damaged wells nuclear warhead.

It sounds terribly and incredibly - the idiotic joke. But in fact there were several cases where catastrophes in the fields of fighting in this way. In the former USSR - five times. When nothing else has not helped. It's now in the Gulf of Mexico, where oil oozes out of the way from three places.

First underground nuclear explosion was used to extinguish burning gas wells in "Urt-Bulak (80 km from Bukhara) 30 September 1966. Power charge was 30 kilotons. For comparison, the Hiroshima bomb exploded about 20 kilotons. Но на высоте 600 метров. But at a height of 600 meters. A near Bukhara - at a depth of six kilometers.

The idea of the method is simple: an underground explosion pushes the rock, presses it and actually squeezes the channel well.

Powerful nuclear "plugs" - sometimes 3 Hiroshima - we have enjoyed until 1979. And only once failed. In 1972 in Kharkov region failed to block the emergency gas blowout. The explosion was mysteriously left on the surface, forming a mushroom cloud. Although the charge was minimal - just a 4 kiloton. And laid deep - for more than two kilometers.

Total probability of failure in the Gulf of Mexico - 20 percent. Americans could take a chance. The chance of dying during the flight to the moon they were even higher.
course, we used a civilian nuclear program on the ground, the Americans as to the sea - under water where the ocean depth reaches 1500 meters.

But in principle there is no difference - you still need to drill a well at a distance from leaking. И в нее опускать бомбу. And it lowered the bomb. Как в фильме "Армагедо&#10​85;" с Брюсом Уиллисом в роли бурильщи&#108​2;а. As in the movie "Armageddon" with Bruce Willis in the role of a driller. Желатель&#108​5;о, чтобы расчеты были сделаны правильн&#108​6;. It is desirable that the calculations were done correctly. Такая надежда есть: в США полно умных ученых и мощных компьюте&#108​8;ов. Such hope is: the U.S. is full of smart scientists and powerful computers. Да и Россия могла бы посодейс&#109​0;вовать. And Russia could have contributed. У нас еще живы мирные ядерные подрывни&#108​2;и. We still live peaceful nuclear demolition.
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Re: Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion
It sounds terribly and incredibly - the idiotic joke.

That's because it is.
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Re: Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion
Russian paper suggests ‘nuclear explosion’ could cap gulf oil geyser

As British Petroleum scrambles to affix a four-story, 70-ton dome over the massive oil geyser venting toxic sludge into the Gulf of Mexico, people everywhere are wondering what else can be done to stem the deadly tide.

Komsomoloskaya Pravda, Russia's best-selling daily publication, has an idea: Why not just nuke it?

During the Soviet years, Russia's communists had to deal with numerous oil disasters and on five different occasions they employed controlled, underground nuclear blasts to quickly solve the problem.

[The] underground explosion moves the rock, presses on it, and, in essence, squeezes the well’s channel," Pracda reported.

"It’s so simple, in fact, that the Soviet Union, a major oil exporter, used this method five times to deal with petrocalamities," added Moscow reporter Julia Ioffe, writing for True/Slant. "The first happened in Uzbekistan, on September 30, 1966 with a blast 1.5 times the strength of the Hiroshima bomb and at a depth of 1.5 kilometers. KP also notes that subterranean nuclear blasts were used as much as 169 times in the Soviet Union to accomplish fairly mundane tasks like creating underground storage spaces for gas or building canals."

And those 169 underground blasts do not count the Soviet military's tests of various atomic-yield weapons, the paper noted.

Russia's success in capping major oil leaks with nuclear demolitions has an almost perfect record of success: only one detonation failed to accomplish its purpose. The last such explosion took place in 1979, according to Ioffe.

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If this leak can be stopped by a nuke why dont' we do it? What would be worse? Months of oil destroying everything or a quick end to it?
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Ruskies are offering a King solomon type of solution without the wisdom.The end is nigh.
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If this leak can be stopped by a nuke why dont' we do it? What would be worse? Months of oil destroying everything or a quick end to it?
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are you serious?
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I guess they are willing to help, at no extra cost, now aren't they. What a load of BS they are.
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If this leak can be stopped by a nuke why dont' we do it? What would be worse? Months of oil destroying everything or a quick end to it?

are you serious?
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Of course I'm serious! If a nuke can be exploded and stop this leak why not do it? Will it do other damage? Yes. But which will be worse, the damage caused by a nuke or oil destroying everything in its path?
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If this leak can be stopped by a nuke why dont' we do it? What would be worse? Months of oil destroying everything or a quick end to it?
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bsflag bsflag and you're a stupid fag for believing this nonsense. PLUS this Sorcha Fal shit has already been posted. You think a major nuclear bomb makes sense? Then tuck a bomb up your ass and ride out the sensations fool.
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Ruskies are offering a King solomon type of solution without the wisdom.The end is nigh.
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Yes one moran represents all Russians

stfu
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Re: Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion
Cool video at this link of actual Soviet nuking of gas well leak!

Soviet nuclear solution could be part of tactics to halt oil spill off US coast

A giant funnel is being built in the Gulf of Mexico to channel the oil spill from the seabed to surface. But since there is no guarantee it will work, Russian experts think Soviet history may offer a radical solution.

Propeller A pillar of fire 120 meters tall. That alone is tough to extinguish, but when the fire is fueled by natural gas, it becomes virtually impossible.

In 1963, one of the Soviet Union's gas-rich locations was badly drilled. The resulting fire burned for three years, with the intensity never waning. All possible ways of fighting the flames were tried – to no avail.

“It was 12 million cubic meters of gas, burning daily. Now multiply that by 3 years. And the price of gas! Nothing worked, the flames were unstoppable. So our boss, the Minister of Nuclear Energy, came to us, and said ‘Boys, let’s help out.’ And we did,” nuclear physicist Albert Vasiliev remembers.

The offered solution? A nuclear explosion. Now, that to a layman might sound like swapping a big problem for an even bigger one. But that is not necessarily the case.


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“Think of this as a doctor's case. You have a small problem – you take some pills, maybe stay in hospital for a while. But if the problem is incredibly serious, you will probably have to undergo surgery. This is what we were – surgeons. It was a last resort, but it worked,” Albert Vasiliev says.

It was nowhere as easy as it sounds, however. Although peaceful nuclear explosions had been tested in both the Soviet Union and the United States by this point, to use a nuclear device for such a measure was a first.

“The idea was to drill a small, angled shaft and set off the bomb, so that the explosion would block the leak. But people weren't sure where to drill, because no one knew exactly where the pipe leak was. And it was so loud. You can't imagine what a fire like this sounds like. Worse than a hundred jet planes all at once. Difficult to access, difficult to work close to – it was a tough job,” former science editor of Komsomolskaya Pravda daily, Vladimir Gurbaev told RT.

Despite these problems, all went well. The leak was closed. The method was pronounced effective and later used on several other similar problems.

"The explosion should be carried out above the leaking hole. After the blast the hole seals up. It's similar to stopping the oxygen supply in a human being," explained Vyacheslav Klishin, physicist and nuclear gas-well fire fighter.

Now, some have already suggested that this approach could help stop the catastrophic oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico.

"If the explosive element fits the well, then it's possible to use it in this case. Anyway, workers in the Gulf need to tie up the well where oil leaks out and there are two possible ways to do it: a nuclear explosion or another well," Vyacheslav Kishin said.

But the situations are very different – the Soviet gas leak was in the middle of a desert, with not much flora and fauna to suffer from potential after-effects.

The Gulf's wildlife is already critically damaged by the leak. A nuclear explosion, however small, may add to the ecological disaster rather than prevent it.

Dealing with the devastation of the oil spill is one thing, but fingers of blame are also being pointed over the catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico. RT spoke to investigative journalist Webster Tarpley over whether lawmakers have been putting profits before people.

“Under Bush we had something called Minerals Management Agency. This was basically taken apart. The thing that seems to have malfunctioned is concrete casement at the bottom of the ocean – on the ocean floor a mile down – that seems to be defective. The other thing is that there should have been an automatic cut-off valve in this drilling rig, which was not there because of lax standards under Bush and Cheney and of course Obama, Salazar and company have done nothing to change this,” Tarpley said. “It is a disaster that has been caused by lack of regulation, insufficient enforcement and that’s where we get these results.”
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Re: Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion
you're a stupid fag for believing this nonsense. PLUS this Sorcha Fal shit has already been posted. You think a major nuclear bomb makes sense? Then tuck a bomb up your ass and ride out the sensations fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754239

Listen idiot...just like other people I don't have any idea of what to do, but I'm WILLING to think of possiblities, any of them.

Oil leaks have happened before, that's a FACT.

Oil leaks have been stopped by nukes, that's a FACT too.

And we aren't talking here about 'major' nuclear bombs, they make small ones too.

If there's anyone who has their head up an ass it is you and certainly not me.
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If this leak can be stopped by a nuke why dont' we do it? What would be worse? Months of oil destroying everything or a quick end to it?
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Obama would be so torn between the Environmental nutcases and the No Nukes ones. It's his core base.
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but what would happen if it widens the holes,and could there be a possibility that the actual oil reservoir also explodes,that would make a pretty big hole if it did.
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but what would happen if it widens the holes,and could there be a possibility that the actual oil reservoir also explodes,that would make a pretty big hole if it did.
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I think that besides a nuke collapsing the well hole the heat of it would actually melt the sea floor into a sort of glass around it.
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but what would happen if it widens the holes,and could there be a possibility that the actual oil reservoir also explodes,that would make a pretty big hole if it did.

I think that besides a nuke collapsing the well hole the heat of it would actually melt the sea floor into a sort of glass around it.
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You really are fucking stupid. Lols "Duh I dink it wood tun it indo gwass." Pffft...dickhead
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If this leak can be stopped by a nuke why dont' we do it? What would be worse? Months of oil destroying everything or a quick end to it?
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How about it shakes the hell out of the Gulf and knocks down ALL the rest of the oil platforms... or maybe it could trigger the New Madrid and millions killed, or maybe it would just blow the Gulf up into a tidal wave and drown the coastal cities... fuck... you people throw nukes around like they are firecrackers... you are going to need another lesson
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If this leak can be stopped by a nuke why dont' we do it? What would be worse? Months of oil destroying everything or a quick end to it?


How about it shakes the hell out of the Gulf and knocks down ALL the rest of the oil platforms... or maybe it could trigger the New Madrid and millions killed, or maybe it would just blow the Gulf up into a tidal wave and drown the coastal cities... fuck... you people throw nukes around like they are firecrackers... you are going to need another lesson
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Yea, I agree. I talked to someone in the know and the idea of a bomb is fuckin insane.





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That crater over by the Yucatan... maybe its not from a meteor?? Maybe some other civilization came to this EXACT SAME CROSSROAD and blew it up!! If so notice they are NOT HERE anymore.
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A nuclear device will ignite all the natural gas and oil in that well causing the entire sea floor to collapse.

FUCK RUSSIA!
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Fix oil leak with Nuclear War!

BRILLIANT!
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Re: Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion
That might be the only solution left.
I've been spending a lot of time researching this and from what I can gather most everyone else except maybe George Noory) are totally missing the boat on how big and bad of a disaster this is.They're now saying 200,000 gallons a day are gushing into the ocean.That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week. The BP platform was drilling for what ... See Morethey call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This is right on the edge of what human technology can do. I've read that this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of it spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that! First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of
this?
We might be looking at the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.
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They can't seriously argue that touching off a nuclear device will fix this are they? Wtf? How do they know it will not make the 'hole' bigger?
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Hey, what the fuck not. It's not our Gulf anyhow.
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Anyone promoting the ridiculous idea that a nuke will seal this thing, obviously has ill-intent or is excruciatingly ignorant.

It will make matters worse beyond imagination.

Radiated water, radiated oil that sticks to everything, radiation poisoning all over the southern US, and a BIGGER HOLE that will release the remaining billions of gallons of oil... radioactive oil.


wtf are they thinking?
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That crater over by the Yucatan... maybe its not from a meteor?? Maybe some other civilization came to this EXACT SAME CROSSROAD and blew it up!! If so notice they are NOT HERE anymore.
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Maybe an oil gusher oil blew it out.
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Re: Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion
Anyone promoting the ridiculous idea that a nuke will seal this thing, obviously has ill-intent or is excruciatingly ignorant.

It will make matters worse beyond imagination.

Radiated water, radiated oil that sticks to everything, radiation poisoning all over the southern US, and a BIGGER HOLE that will release the remaining billions of gallons of oil... radioactive oil.


wtf are they thinking?
 Quoting: no 961771
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Re: Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion
Anyone promoting the ridiculous idea that a nuke will seal this thing, obviously has ill-intent or is excruciatingly ignorant.

It will make matters worse beyond imagination.

Radiated water, radiated oil that sticks to everything, radiation poisoning all over the southern US, and a BIGGER HOLE that will release the remaining billions of gallons of oil... radioactive oil.


wtf are they thinking?
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Nah this OP is just mentally retarded and completely stupid. Plus he thinks one person(such as Sorcha Fail) equal a whole country. And the other dumb cockbite who says he's "been researching this issue a lot and think it's the only option" and a fucking retarded queer(probably also the OP) who needs to go make something with Playdough.
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It would just make a bigger hole and irradiate the entire hemisphere.

Of course, they do think long term so if everyone in this hemisphere dies of radiation poisoning, they could claim it all after about ten years.

From their point of view it is probably a fine idea.
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Wow what a great green president we have!
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Re: Russia says oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico can be stopped with nuclear explosion
IDEA: drill a new hole nearby to relieve the oil pressure, which may reduce the flow and then plug the leak by pumping down something that is liquid under atmospheric pressure but solid at one mile deep of water or something that would set. Any ideas on what that may be?