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Breaking: Texas oil RIG on fire...not the same as refinery fire

 
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coincidences.....not hardly....
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How many accidents in the same industry over a short period of time before we can start talking industrial espionage?


While I agree that all this does seem kind of fishy, it may be the fact that the Gulf oil spill incident has caused us all to by hyper-vigilant regarding any incident in the oil&gas industry. Who knows, a couple accidents a week may be the norm, they just don't break the news like they are now...

horseshit


Judge for yourself:

[link to news.google.com]
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Exactly. Oil rigs and refineries are dangerous places. I mean, c'mon - you're dealing with petroleum products and by-products, high temps, high pressures, etc. Very dangerous.
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nd no i'm not going to try living in the "petro-chem-refinery belt"....it's a non-natural disaster waiting to happen.

post some links to multiple rigs catching on fire/leaking gas on a weekly basis or stfu.
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Admittedly, you have no first-hand experience in this area, yet you continue to yammer.

And, quite apparently, you have no idea what you are yammering about because it was a truck that exploded at a refinery (apparently didn't follow grounding protocol) and a natural gas leak.

So, until you actually know what you are talking about, why don't you STFU...
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Unless the media never Brought this to the public's attention then WTF...
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Let me guess...

has anybody blamed this on Obama yet?
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somebody hates the oil companies or owns stock in oil and needs to make some cash in a hurry by driving prices up using sabotage techniques .
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While I agree that all this does seem kind of fishy, it may be the fact that the Gulf oil spill incident has caused us all to by hyper-vigilant regarding any incident in the oil&gas industry. Who knows, a couple accidents a week may be the norm, they just don't break the news like they are now...

horseshit


He's correct. Try living in the petro-chem-refinery belt. You would understand.

Why don't you research it...instead blindly reaching for that bottle of doomtard

and no i'm not going to try living in the "petro-chem-refinery belt"....it's a non-natural disaster waiting to happen.

post some links to multiple rigs catching on fire/leaking gas on a weekly basis or stfu.
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Guess you COULD just do a google news search like he did - but here ya go:


[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

That's for starters.

And this is just the stuff that actually makes the news.
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Let me guess...

has anybody blamed this on Obama yet?
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I will if you want...LOL


Obammy did it.. You happy now..LOL
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While I agree that all this does seem kind of fishy, it may be the fact that the Gulf oil spill incident has caused us all to by hyper-vigilant regarding any incident in the oil&gas industry. Who knows, a couple accidents a week may be the norm, they just don't break the news like they are now...

horseshit


He's correct. Try living in the petro-chem-refinery belt. You would understand.

Why don't you research it...instead blindly reaching for that bottle of doomtard
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I have been working in the industry for over 25 years, yes there are incidents, but not of this magnitude or in this short of time frame.

Do you realize the amount of education and training that is required yearly for all employees (operators, tech's, managers)?

I do, I live it yearly, the oil industry is one of the most tightly regulated industries there is, period.

If one thinks about the number of gallons that is moved, refined, pumped on a daily basis, you would realize the true nature of what's required.
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Admittedly, you have no first-hand experience in this area, yet you continue to yammer.

And, quite apparently, you have no idea what you are yammering about because it was a truck that exploded at a refinery (apparently didn't follow grounding protocol) and a natural gas leak.

So, until you actually know what you are talking about, why don't you STFU...
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just below this is the original post i replied to....

the bolded portion is what i'm calling horseshit on.....

find me one industry on earth that considers 2, or in this case, 3 explosions a week as an acceptable norm......

you won't find one because that is horseshit.

i am not yammering the truck fucking exploded...the oil rig exploded and sank.....the other oil rig has a huge gas leak and reports of white smoke being seen from the base.....hmmm gas leak, white smoke....maybe fire.

noone was even talking to you.....stfu






While I agree that all this does seem kind of fishy, it may be the fact that the Gulf oil spill incident has caused us all to by hyper-vigilant regarding any incident in the oil&gas industry. Who knows, a couple accidents a week may be the norm, they just don't break the news like they are now...
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While I agree that all this does seem kind of fishy, it may be the fact that the Gulf oil spill incident has caused us all to by hyper-vigilant regarding any incident in the oil&gas industry. Who knows, a couple accidents a week may be the norm, they just don't break the news like they are now...

horseshit


He's correct. Try living in the petro-chem-refinery belt. You would understand.

Why don't you research it...instead blindly reaching for that bottle of doomtard



I have been working in the industry for over 25 years, yes there are incidents, but not of this magnitude or in this short of time frame.

Do you realize the amount of education and training that is required yearly for all employees (operators, tech's, managers)?

I do, I live it yearly, the oil industry is one of the most tightly regulated industries there is, period.

If one thinks about the number of gallons that is moved, refined, pumped on a daily basis, you would realize the true nature of what's required.
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thank you
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What the hell is going on here?
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Hugoton gonna blow.
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Some are trying their damn-est to bring this country to it's knees.

Come hell or high water, someone wants a real revolt from with in this country.

There seems way to many different items happening at the same time, why is the question?

What are they really trying to do or better yet hide?
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inside job. it's the elite, who knows why, they are depraved. this latest is but one of the many projects to destroy the world they have been working on for decades. they are evil genius's.
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While I agree that all this does seem kind of fishy, it may be the fact that the Gulf oil spill incident has caused us all to by hyper-vigilant regarding any incident in the oil&gas industry. Who knows, a couple accidents a week may be the norm, they just don't break the news like they are now...

horseshit


He's correct. Try living in the petro-chem-refinery belt. You would understand.

Why don't you research it...instead blindly reaching for that bottle of doomtard



I have been working in the industry for over 25 years, yes there are incidents, but not of this magnitude or in this short of time frame.

Do you realize the amount of education and training that is required yearly for all employees (operators, tech's, managers)?

I do, I live it yearly, the oil industry is one of the most tightly regulated industries there is, period.

If one thinks about the number of gallons that is moved, refined, pumped on a daily basis, you would realize the true nature of what's required.
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I think it's a combination of things. Oil rig catastrophe in the gulf - really fishy.

Oil rig overturned in transit - stupid operations/lack of planning/accident/relatively low impact.

White smoke/gas leak at the bottom of a rig - only made the news because of the heightened awareness.

Truck explosion - stupid operations/accident/procedural issue, bad timing - but not fishy....

So I think, yea, there's something fishy going on, but not EVERYTHING that goes on is fishy. KWIM?
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And these are just the big boys:

[link to oilandgasinternational.com]

There are so many that occur on land rigs, offshore rigs and in refineries they don't even get reported. And reporting a gas leak on a rig (as was the Boca Chica incident) or in a refinery is a momentary blip on the screen in TX and coastal LA unless it caused some damage...and then based on the amount of damage, the report is typically local.

Example:

The U.S. Minerals and Management Service documented more than 1,400 offshore oil drilling accidents between 2001 and 2007.

I don't have the time to conduct your due diligence. Educate yourself...or not and continue to present as an uninformed arse
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Guess you COULD just do a google news search like he did - but here ya go:


[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

That's for starters.

And this is just the stuff that actually makes the news.
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your first link has some stories about 2 seperate incidents in 2009....one in california and one in delaware

2 seperate incidents in 2008..one in texas and one in salt lake

1 in 2005 ......for a grand total of 5 accidents in 4 years.


your second link

was a total of 5 rig incidents from 1988 to 2009

your third link contained stories about the incidents already mentioned......

thanks for your input
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And these are just the big boys:

[link to oilandgasinternational.com]

There are so many that occur on land rigs, offshore rigs and in refineries they don't even get reported. And reporting a gas leak on a rig (as was the Boca Chica incident) or in a refinery is a momentary blip on the screen in TX and coastal LA unless it caused some damage...and then based on the amount of damage, the report is typically local.

Example:

The U.S. Minerals and Management Service documented more than 1,400 offshore oil drilling accidents between 2001 and 2007.

I don't have the time to conduct your due diligence. Educate yourself...or not and continue to present as an uninformed arse
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accidents or explosions?
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Guess you COULD just do a google news search like he did - but here ya go:


[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

That's for starters.

And this is just the stuff that actually makes the news.

your first link has some stories about 2 seperate incidents in 2009....one in california and one in delaware

2 seperate incidents in 2008..one in texas and one in salt lake

1 in 2005 ......for a grand total of 5 accidents in 4 years.


your second link

was a total of 5 rig incidents from 1988 to 2009

your third link contained stories about the incidents already mentioned......

thanks for your input
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Searched only years 2007-2009 and there were pages and pages of incidents. Did you only look at the first page?

Also, I only did very specific searches.

oil refinery explosion us

not

gas leak at oil refinery

oil truck refinery explosion

loading rack incident,

etc. etc.
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I have been working in the industry for over 25 years, yes there are incidents, but not of this magnitude or in this short of time frame.

Do you realize the amount of education and training that is required yearly for all employees (operators, tech's, managers)?

I do, I live it yearly, the oil industry is one of the most tightly regulated industries there is, period.

If one thinks about the number of gallons that is moved, refined, pumped on a daily basis, you would realize the true nature of what's required.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 739448


MAgnitude?? LMAO....a rig exploding while loading at a refinery and a rig gas leak..."magnitude"

Three incidents in two weeks..."this short of a time frame"

And you really want to tout this "in all my 25 years" shit

You can't be fuckin' serious

By the bye, third gen in the industry here. So, yeah, we live it.

Your last statement is the very reason, despite regs, there are so many accidents. It is the shear volume and large number of rigs and humans involved.

It's the same principal as the reason the majors revenue numbers are so massive: It's not due to a kick arse profit margin; it's due to volume.

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Guess you COULD just do a google news search like he did - but here ya go:


[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

That's for starters.

And this is just the stuff that actually makes the news.

your first link has some stories about 2 seperate incidents in 2009....one in california and one in delaware

2 seperate incidents in 2008..one in texas and one in salt lake

1 in 2005 ......for a grand total of 5 accidents in 4 years.


your second link

was a total of 5 rig incidents from 1988 to 2009

your third link contained stories about the incidents already mentioned......

thanks for your input



Searched only years 2007-2009 and there were pages and pages of incidents. Did you only look at the first page?

Also, I only did very specific searches.

oil refinery explosion us

not

gas leak at oil refinery

oil truck refinery explosion

loading rack incident,

etc. etc.
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i looked at the articles at each link you posted....on each page there was two or three articles on the same incident....so yeah i guess it looked like a whole bunch of seperate incidents to you. it's why it took so long for my reply.

there were also three articles about an explosion in 1988 written in 2007 or 2008.... i don't remember which.
but that at least ought to verify the significance of an oil rig explosion if it's still be discussed 10 years later....not some biweekly event.

and accidents are reported even if someone injures themselves on the job....that's an accident and requires a report....it's not a friggin explosion.

an oil rig exploded last week....evidently one is on fire as we speak.....ho hum....just the industry norm.

right
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accidents or explosions?
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Through your last several posts, you have just proved yourself an illogical dumbarse

Get off your lazy ass and research
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You guys do understand this shit goes on all the time in TX and LA, right?

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Too lazy to log in...


Yes, it does happen a bit often in that area, I know, but... Maybe thats why they (ahem) are doing (read: attacking) down in this location, to make it seem like just another "accident"...
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Guess you COULD just do a google news search like he did - but here ya go:


[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

[link to news.google.com]

That's for starters.

And this is just the stuff that actually makes the news.

your first link has some stories about 2 seperate incidents in 2009....one in california and one in delaware

2 seperate incidents in 2008..one in texas and one in salt lake

1 in 2005 ......for a grand total of 5 accidents in 4 years.


your second link

was a total of 5 rig incidents from 1988 to 2009

your third link contained stories about the incidents already mentioned......

thanks for your input



Searched only years 2007-2009 and there were pages and pages of incidents. Did you only look at the first page?

Also, I only did very specific searches.

oil refinery explosion us

not

gas leak at oil refinery

oil truck refinery explosion

loading rack incident,

etc. etc.


i looked at the articles at each link you posted....on each page there was two or three articles on the same incident....so yeah i guess it looked like a whole bunch of seperate incidents to you. it's why it took so long for my reply.

there were also three articles about an explosion in 1988 written in 2007 or 2008.... i don't remember which.
but that at least ought to verify the significance of an oil rig explosion if it's still be discussed 10 years later....not some biweekly event.

and accidents are reported even if someone injures themselves on the job....that's an accident and requires a report....it's not a friggin explosion.

an oil rig exploded last week....evidently one is on fire as we speak.....ho hum....just the industry norm.

right
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No, the one that WAS on "fire" is out now. And again, these were pretty specific searches.

Try looking into it yourself with an open mind.

Try US oil refinery incident

and see what you turn up.

Then try US oil rig incident

Just a few years ago a similar incident to the rig overturned in the waterway occurred. There was a leak on an abandoned jack up rig and it leaked mucky nasty stuff into the gulf. I'm just saying - some of this stuff is "normal" activity, and I believe some of it (namely the explosion in the gulf) may very well not be.
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accidents or explosions?


Through your last several posts, you have just proved yourself an illogical dumbarse

Get off your lazy ass and research
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you've proven nothing but a skill at being a condescending asshat.
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No, the one that WAS on "fire" is out now. And again, these were pretty specific searches.

Try looking into it yourself with an open mind.

Try US oil refinery incident

and see what you turn up.

Then try US oil rig incident

Just a few years ago a similar incident to the rig overturned in the waterway occurred. There was a leak on an abandoned jack up rig and it leaked mucky nasty stuff into the gulf. I'm just saying - some of this stuff is "normal" activity, and I believe some of it (namely the explosion in the gulf) may very well not be.
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look i have no doubt that accidents are normal in any environment....but to suggest that 2 rigs catching fire in one week is the industry norm only suggests that the industry is a fucking biological hazzard of epic proportions.



i'm very pleased the other fire is out.
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Wow the laser sattelite thingys are busy, smoking oil rigs and refinerys lately. Accomplishing what?

1 Make people hate oil.

2 Raise prices, ruin economy.

3 Invent more restrictive laws.

4 Remove more liberties.

The list can go on.
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What about the possibility that the drill hole created by Horizon may be causing high underground gas pressures? That seems evident from the Horizon fire and perhaps this is another high pressure venting out of the same deep system?

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