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Anonymous Coward User ID: 960369 United States 05/07/2010 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Insurance is not why wars are continued and expanded. But yes it is a disgusting practice. However we are dealing with a volunteer military. They have made their choices. This would be why you will not hear me say asinine things such as "God bless the troops". And omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, omniscient being is not going to bless someone who lived in a first world country with many opportunities yet decided to enlist in a military to kill poorer and relatively defenseless people for imperial interests. |
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mathetes User ID: 793782 United States 05/07/2010 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The owner of a life insurance policy has to demonstrate that he or she is dependent in some way on the person whose life is being insured. This is known in the business as the "insurable interest" doctrine and has origins in common-law practice For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 963173 Canada 05/07/2010 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Insurance is not why wars are continued and expanded. But yes it is a disgusting practice. However we are dealing with a volunteer military. They have made their choices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 960369This would be why you will not hear me say asinine things such as "God bless the troops". And omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, omniscient being is not going to bless someone who lived in a first world country with many opportunities yet decided to enlist in a military to kill poorer and relatively defenseless people for imperial interests. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Free Planet User ID: 959150 United Kingdom 05/07/2010 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nope, it's (officially) called DEAD PEASANT LIFE INSURANCE and there've been cases where Corporations have taken out such on their Employees, employee dies, family get nothing, corporation is rolling in cash. there are some who suggest that DEAD PEASAN LIFE INSURANCE played a major role in the 'war game that went live' we know as 9-11 [link to abeldanger.blogspot.com] |
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caprichan User ID: 933588 United States 05/07/2010 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by caprichan on 05/07/2010 04:12 AM We have finally come back to the pre-Socratic philosopher Heraclitus, who said everything is flow, flux, process. There are no "things." Bruce Lee |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 964270 United States 05/07/2010 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The owner of a life insurance policy has to demonstrate that he or she is dependent in some way on the person whose life is being insured. This is known in the business as the "insurable interest" doctrine and has origins in common-law practice Quoting: mathetesThe supreme court case Grigsby v. Russell established that life insurance benefits may be assigned to other parties, without an insurable interest. The life settlement industry used this case as a legal basis for the creation of a multi billion dollar STOLI death bond industry. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 964272 China 05/07/2010 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No link. BULLSHIT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757124You BS flag wavers are all the same. Lazy assholes who can't take just five seconds to do a net search for themselves. Here's a link for you. It took five seconds to find. No wonder America is so fucked up...everyone is lazy. [link to moneycentral.msn.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 964043 United States 05/07/2010 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No link. BULLSHIT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 964272You BS flag wavers are all the same. Lazy assholes who can't take just five seconds to do a net search for themselves. Here's a link for you. It took five seconds to find. No wonder America is so fucked up...everyone is lazy. [link to moneycentral.msn.com] watch it with the wide sweeps..... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 960135 Australia 05/07/2010 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Insurance is not why wars are continued and expanded. But yes it is a disgusting practice. However we are dealing with a volunteer military. They have made their choices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 960369This would be why you will not hear me say asinine things such as "God bless the troops". And omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, omniscient being is not going to bless someone who lived in a first world country with many opportunities yet decided to enlist in a military to kill poorer and relatively defenseless people for imperial interests. if their choice is to be poor and in a school designed to keep them from being accepted to college and then giving them a career option, such as the military then I guess your right. |
Ricfly52 User ID: 911502 United States 05/07/2010 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well when I was in I never worked for a big box company. Ummm neither have my three who serve now. So fuck me a running, I guess if they die I get the fucking blood money. Or their wives and children, I would suppose. But if this is true about the banks, then so be it! It is just one more niche in their belt for demise! Fishing and skiing keeps me a little sane. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 916958 United States 05/08/2010 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | National Law Journal, February 2, 2009: "Bank of America Corp. officials issued a statement acknowledging that the company uses BOLI policies and asserting that they are legal. 'The bank does have this type of insurance in place. It is a legitimate business practice used by many companies. And, like many companies, Bank of America uses this insurance to help defray the cost of employee benefits,' said Bank of America spokesperson Shirley Norton. She would elaborate no further." Wall Street Journal, April 19, 2002: "Wal-Mart Stores Inc. took out COLI [Corporate Owned Life Insurance] on about 350,000 of its workers in the 1990s, offering $5,000 in life insurance to those who agreed to be covered. Only 500 asked to be excluded, a spokesman says. The brochure that Wal-Mart gave to employees noted that the company would provide the benefits 'as a result of financial gains from life insurance policies Wal-Mart will purchase ... [that] will result in the financial benefits for the corporation.' But the brochure didn't make it clear that the company expected to receive a benefit far outstripping the death benefit it offered workers. 'We could have communicated more,' a Wal-Mart spokesman says now. In 1998, the company canceled the $5,000 benefit for workers ... Wal-Mart says that it ended its janitors coverage by January 2000, and that it no longer receives death benefits when employees or former employees die. The company says it 'has substantially resolved' all COLI-related issues with the IRS. 'We were looking to reduce our corporate income taxes,' the spokesman says. 'That's really why we did it. ... It was a tax strategy that didn't work out as expected.'" Houston Chronicle, June 7, 2002, "Dow Chemical Is Accused of 'Dead Peasant' Insurance": "Several other companies -- including Camelot Music, Winn-Dixie and American Electric Power -- also sued the IRS over the issue of deductions. In those cases, the IRS successfully proved the expenses were made solely to avoid federal income tax liability." Wall Street Journal, April 19, 2002: "Valued Employees: Worker Dies, Firm Profits; Why? Many Companies Insure Staff, Yielding Benefits On Taxes, Bottom Line; Where to Put Dead Peasants" National Law Journal, February 2, 2009: "[John] Failla [a partner in the litigation group and insurance recovery practice at New York's Proskauer Rose,] who advises business policy holders on insurance matters, noted that, despite all the litigation surrounding COLI policies, they're still wildly popular, accounting for more than 20% of life insurance policies written every year. 'Look, COLI is a very, very active market," Failla said, "I think it's fair to say that they're writing billions of dollars a year of face amounts ... I think the statistics I've seen suggest that, even now, a quarter or more of the largest companies have COLI programs.'" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 916958 United States 05/08/2010 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wall Street Journal, May 20, 2009: "In December, Irma Johnson accidentally received a check for $1.6 million, from Security Life of Denver Insurance Co., payable to Amegy Bank. According to a lawsuit Mrs. Johnson filed in February in a Houston state court, in 2001 the bank told her husband, Daniel Johnson, a credit risk manager who had survived two brain surgeries, that he was eligible for supplemental life insurance of $150,000, if he signed a consent form authorizing the bank to purchase an insurance policy on his life. Four months later, the bank fired him. Mr. Johnson died from a brain tumor at age 41 in 2008. His widow and two young children received no life-insurance benefits, which the bank had canceled when Mr. Johnson left." Houston Press, July, 2009: "... Johnson's attorney, Mike Myers ... told [the reporter] that, during the discovery process, he found out that Amegy had allegedly taken out two policies on Johnson. Thus, with the second, alleged $3.1 million policy, the amended suit says Amegy made $4.79 million off a dead employee." |
Ho_Lee_Kao User ID: 896722 United States 05/08/2010 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ridiculous Quoting: Anonymous Coward 963443Yeah sure. DEATH MACHINE SHILL. SO TELL me, moran, WHO was paying the premiums on those insurance policies, and WHY would a bank ISSUE one to a soldier (Banks are NOT insurance companies in any case, and CAN'T issue a policy!!!) that is in a combat zone? In YOUR version, the Bank would be PAYING ITSELF. WHERE is the fucking profit in THAT?? ESPECIALLY when the Government ALREADY HAS policies on those soldiers? TELL me what kind of asinine theory YOU have as to the back story.. I'm WAITING, moran. |
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A Simple Equation User ID: 965870 United States 05/09/2010 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I heard about this on the Alex Jones Show on Wednesday when a caller mentioned it, however, if one takes a look at Page 42 of the October 2009 Harper's Magazine, they will see the tail end of a story called "Too Big To Burn" about battling fires in California and the AIG insurance connection. NOTHING at all about insuring "troops" for $2 million a head. If this is "true", we need a REAL source, not hearsay. I don't doubt that something like this IS going on given how our world REALLY works, but I have yet to see published proof of it and the original source has proven false. Link: [link to harpers.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 851382 Canada 05/09/2010 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Insurance is not why wars are continued and expanded. But yes it is a disgusting practice. However we are dealing with a volunteer military. They have made their choices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 960369This would be why you will not hear me say asinine things such as "God bless the troops". And omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, omniscient being is not going to bless someone who lived in a first world country with many opportunities yet decided to enlist in a military to kill poorer and relatively defenseless people for imperial interests. are you sure about that? just asking because we have it on pretty good authority (me and GW) that god does. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 510890 United States 05/09/2010 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Insurance is not why wars are continued and expanded. But yes it is a disgusting practice. However we are dealing with a volunteer military. They have made their choices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 960369This would be why you will not hear me say asinine things such as "God bless the troops". And omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, omniscient being is not going to bless someone who lived in a first world country with many opportunities yet decided to enlist in a military to kill poorer and relatively defenseless people for imperial interests. But if they weren't volunteering, the Government would just start a draft to provide bodies for the machine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 965984 Puerto Rico 05/09/2010 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So TELL me, moran, WHO was paying the premiums on those insurance policies, and WHY would a bank ISSUE one to a soldier (Banks are NOT insurance companies in any case, and CAN'T issue a policy!!!) that is in a combat zone? Quoting: Ho_Lee_KaoIn YOUR version, the Bank would be PAYING ITSELF. WHERE is the fucking profit in THAT?? ESPECIALLY when the Government ALREADY HAS policies on those soldiers? TELL me what kind of asinine theory YOU have as to the back story.. I'm WAITING, moran. Not defending the moron, (note the spelling) but as most big businesses especially the banking industry have written the laws that govern them, I could see where a bank pays the premium, then if a soldier dies they pay themselves out of their profit, reducing taxable income, and because money received from insurance payouts are not taxable they have a way to hide that money and it's taking directly by bigwigs. |
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