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BREAKING - Gulf Oil Spill is Releasing Methane - I said it then and now is confirmed 5000:1

 
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In air there must be 5 to 15 percent methane for it to be flammable.
So I am sure it can be measured by Noaa, Methane's half life in air is 7 years.
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In air there must be 5 to 15 percent methane for it to be flammable.
So I am sure it can be measured by Noaa, Methane's half life in air is 7 years.
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I welcome the proper measurements by the appropriate controls..the only controls haha
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In air there must be 5 to 15 percent methane for it to be flammable.
So I am sure it can be measured by Noaa, Methane's half life in air is 7 years.

I welcome the proper measurements by the appropriate controls..the only controls haha
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lol........
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Re: BREAKING - Gulf Oil Spill is Releasing Methane - I said it then and now is confirmed 5000:1
what new here? HUGE methane gaz leak happen for more then 6 month in nothern canadian sea bed.


Still wait for footage of this "famous oil spill'' did you notice no image and video are release?

Too me this natural disaster is nothing compare with other thing going on the world.


American media are focus at this just to distract and made off a good soap TV show.


nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 952961


Man made + natural. Drilling at those depths is the "man made". BOP failing because of those depths is "man made". The original equipment used was not re-engineered to withstand those depths and the pressure that would "naturally" be released.

When that is proven, which should not be that difficult: compare engineering of old BOP's to new. It is obviously easier for you to blame that bitch of Mother Nature, than to look at "man-made". And that is hubris, my friend, to think man can control the "natural" reactions of earth.
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There is a lot of it there. This is from a Baylor website.

The U.S Department of Energy (DOE) has awarded a Baylor University researcher more than $270,000 to search a portion of the Gulf of Mexico for a massive source of hydrocarbon energy called methane hydrate, the main ingredient of natural gas.

Dr. John Dunbar, an associate professor of geology at Baylor, will use a new search method to acquire geophysical data of the site, located roughly 200 miles off the Mississippi coast, in hopes of providing a detailed map of where the methane hydrate is located, how often the gas "seeps through" and the volume that is underneath the seafloor.

Called the Mississippi Canyon, the site is about 3,000 feet wide and about 3,000 feet under water. It also has both active and dormant gas vents. Other academic institutions have been researching the site since 2001, but have not been able to ascertain where the hydrate is located nor how much is there.

"Methane hydrate sources, such as the one in Mississippi Canyon, could provide a major portion of our energy source for the future," Dunbar said. "Methane is also used as a feedstock for plastics, fertilizers, etc. We are going to need hydrocarbons for the foreseeable future."

They are not saying much about this whole mess and that is what worries me.
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So explain the claims of conducting limited "burn-offs" of crude in the vicinity of the leak? Wouldn't that be STUPID with a methane leak of that caliber in close proximity?
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That's what I was wondering about.
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In air there must be 5 to 15 percent methane for it to be flammable.
So I am sure it can be measured by Noaa, Methane's half life in air is 7 years.

I welcome the proper measurements by the appropriate controls..the only controls haha
 Quoting: _SATAN_



What happens when you mix methane (gigatons of it), plutionium and uranium?

One BIG M_O_T_H_E_R_F_U_%_H_!_N_G BOOOOOOOM!

Then the tsunami, ocean contamination, loss of property. life and most of Florida, Cuba, Louisiana......
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It's my opinion that this new "story" that is being released(since yesterday, BTW) was cooked up during the closed door meeting with Obambi and BP last week.

Reporters were refused access, if I remember right.
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It was the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and it was BP, TansOcean, and Halliburtion that was there. Get the facts straight then argue you point.
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So explain the claims of conducting limited "burn-offs" of crude in the vicinity of the leak? Wouldn't that be STUPID with a methane leak of that caliber in close proximity?



That's what I was wondering about.
 Quoting: arosebyanyothername

If life is a stage, then I want my ticket money back!

This "storyline" they are trying to sell us on has more holes in it than Obamas' biography!

Any way you slice it, THEY are up to no good, and WE are the unwilling benefactors of their actions!

GOT SENSE?
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In air there must be 5 to 15 percent methane for it to be flammable.
So I am sure it can be measured by Noaa, Methane's half life in air is 7 years.

I welcome the proper measurements by the appropriate controls..the only controls haha



What happens when you mix methane (gigatons of it), plutionium and uranium?

One BIG M_O_T_H_E_R_F_U_%_H_!_N_G BOOOOOOOM!

Then the tsunami, ocean contamination, loss of property. life and most of Florida, Cuba, Louisiana......
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This is the real boooom. A few minutes ago I felt a lot of pressure relief and probes entered through my back and I actually had a breath of what seemed to be air.
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So explain the claims of conducting limited "burn-offs" of crude in the vicinity of the leak? Wouldn't that be STUPID with a methane leak of that caliber in close proximity?



That's what I was wondering about.

If life is a stage, then I want my ticket money back!

This "storyline" they are trying to sell us on has more holes in it than Obamas' biography!

Any way you slice it, THEY are up to no good, and WE are the unwilling benefactors of their actions!

GOT SENSE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 963621

here's a ticket
what's mine is to be shared with those with common sense. Yes, this is the only key. Yet so few have it..
It's like a perpetual boooom site where we can research and evolve past this sad wreck of of 'man'.
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Another Craptastic post ;) thumbs
Patiently waiting for confirmation. If this is true an unchecked runaway methane volcano would be serious doom.

Thanks!

I have done some mild research. Methane is very common with oil deposits. Oil deposits under oceans, seas, ect contain more methane from the sea floor. The deeper the oil deposit, the more ocean life above that starts the process of methane generation and falls to the sea floor. Deeper deposits had more time to generate methane gases.

The oil released into the Gulf has an orange color. I am looking into that as I believe it may indicate a saturation of some sort. Could excessive methane create an orange color slick?

I'll post more when I find it. Anyone else who has info please report. As a massive methane release would spell Biblical Doom.

Imagine if a methane bomb running 600 miles in diameter were to explode. The shockwave would circle the Earth several times. The entire world would hear it and many will face deadly over pressure. Those in between will have blown out, bloody ears.
 Quoting: ºCRAPº



Back when I was a kid in Oklahoma, whenever we drove by an oil site, there was always a plume of fire where they were burning off the (?)methane. If they are really venting lots of methane, they need to clear the area and release a fire bomb or whatever they have, so it won't grow so large and then explode. A steady burn is much better than a large explosion. (for the retards who say that it won't burn underwater, you are correct. burn it at the surface)

Gas used to be so cheap back in the 50's that lots of people kept a gas yard light burning 24x7. Back when gasoline got down to 19cents a gallon, milk was about 25cents a gallon and a carton of sigs were less than $2. (he mumbles to himself) and some places sold 8 to 10 hamburgers for a buck on 29th street in OKC...before there was a Sonic.
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In air there must be 5 to 15 percent methane for it to be flammable.
So I am sure it can be measured by Noaa, Methane's half life in air is 7 years.

I welcome the proper measurements by the appropriate controls..the only controls haha
 Quoting: _SATAN_

Ah, 'Satan...' not only are you not laughable, but soon enough, I'm sure, simply are not... period. You can take that to your prison-house and 'make plates out of it.' hahahahahaha
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Question.

How much of an oil rig and safety features are made using Chinese parts or metal ?


I remember a number of years ago there was a problem with commercial airliners that used inferior screws that broke.
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Nice Try Crap, but, if it had been a huge methane pocket extending into land, then it would have went kablooey a long time ago, with the amount of ships driving through it.
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And this from 2009.

OCEAN: Methane Vent Site Discovered by Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV)

A new methane vent site was discovered in 2009 in the Mississippi Canyon 118 site in the Gulf of Mexico. The vent was detected by a mass spectrometer mounted on the autonomous underwater vehicle (AUV) Eagle Ray. The vent was found in an area of seafloor known to contain ice-like formations called methane hydrates. Methane hydrates can release methane gas, a powerful greenhouse gas that could affect climate change. This is the first time a mass spectrometer carried by an AUV created a methane map similar in quality to maps generated by multibeam sonar. The discovery was part of a National Institute for Undersea Science and Technology project funded by NOAA's Office of Ocean Exploration and Research.
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In air there must be 5 to 15 percent methane for it to be flammable.
So I am sure it can be measured by Noaa, Methane's half life in air is 7 years.

I welcome the proper measurements by the appropriate controls..the only controls haha

Ah, 'Satan...' not only are you not laughable, but soon enough, I'm sure, simply are not... period. You can take that to your prison-house and 'make plates out of it.' hahahahahaha
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hahaha! I just followed directions to the death of me, and i was already dead. Only to put myself in a position to be controlled again. Life is wonderful =]
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I say fuck being human now.. even people that look human around me...are not human.
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there's a whole other level..
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So explain the claims of conducting limited "burn-offs" of crude in the vicinity of the leak? Wouldn't that be STUPID with a methane leak of that caliber in close proximity?



That's what I was wondering about.
 Quoting: arosebyanyothername

We could have easily been shown stock footage. Remember, the Coast Guard lied their asses off in the first few days. They specifically said their ROV's, using visual and radar data, confirming there is no oil leak. However, they still decided to take the 'just-in-case' stance of prepardness.

All BS and now we know.
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You don't wanna know how much methane i release..
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I'd say it's in direct proportion to the number of salads you've tossed.

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You don't wanna know how much methane i release..

I'd say it's in direct proportion to the number of salads you've tossed.

butttaunter<----Galaxy
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yep!
:P
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You don't wanna know how much methane i release..

I'd say it's in direct proportion to the number of salads you've tossed.

butttaunter<----Galaxy

yep!
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So explain the claims of conducting limited "burn-offs" of crude in the vicinity of the leak? Wouldn't that be STUPID with a methane leak of that caliber in close proximity?

HELLO!?
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or they are TRYING to burn off the methane gas....
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There is a lot of it there. This is from a Baylor website.

The U.S Department of Energy (DOE) has awarded a Baylor University researcher more than $270,000 to search a portion of the Gulf of Mexico for a massive source of hydrocarbon energy called methane hydrate, the main ingredient of natural gas.

Dr. John Dunbar, an associate professor of geology at Baylor, will use a new search method to acquire geophysical data of the site, located roughly 200 miles off the Mississippi coast, in hopes of providing a detailed map of where the methane hydrate is located, how often the gas "seeps through" and the volume that is underneath the seafloor.

Called the Mississippi Canyon, the site is about 3,000 feet wide and about 3,000 feet under water. It also has both active and dormant gas vents. Other academic institutions have been researching the site since 2001, but have not been able to ascertain where the hydrate is located nor how much is there.

"Methane hydrate sources, such as the one in Mississippi Canyon, could provide a major portion of our energy source for the future," Dunbar said. "Methane is also used as a feedstock for plastics, fertilizers, etc. We are going to need hydrocarbons for the foreseeable future."

They are not saying much about this whole mess and that is what worries me.
 Quoting: siri

The Methane deposit is 200 miles off shore, 3,000 feet wide and 3,000 feet deep.....

But then they say they can not determine how big it is.

The oil that is flooding into the Gulf of Mexico is creating an orange and red slick. It looks like blood, seriously. Makes me wonder what the composition is because I doubt it is mostly raw crude oil, which is tar black.

It may be a two way scenario...
(1) Nuke it closed to prevent the undeniable damage
(2) Let the methane build to explosive concentrations.

One thing that concerns me about the dome that is lowered. It was squared. Under severe pressures, it should be rounded like a real dome.

Think about this, the dome box is not what we are told it is. It is a large nuclear weapon designed to blast downwards. The device is large to obtain the depth needed and to aid in directing the blast down.

Just when the dome gets to the location, the coast guard bans ship/air travel.

I really think that dome may be a nuclear device. It may be a massive fucker too. Reasons are this, the pressures down there are very high and that requires more explosive power to counter act the pressures. And yet even more explosive power would be needed to counter the oils gushing pressures. And they may only have one shot at this. So a large Mega-ton nuclear device may be the last solution and they are running out of conventional ideas.

Time is running out!
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Isn't methane gas one of the theories used to explain ships disappearing in the Bermuda Triangle. Pretty darn close to the spill, isn't it?
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Just blow the mother fucker now before it gets bigger. At least they can then do smaller controlled explosions as it builds up.
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Just blow the mother fucker now before it gets bigger. At least they can then do smaller controlled explosions as it builds up.
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They can't find it! I came down here last night, and found out a friend took some reporter people out one day, all day this week to look for this oil that's about to hit.. they couldn't find any traces of it any where. Nothing! WEIRD.... went 70 something miles out around, and all over off the coast,
Don't get me wrong, glad/thankful to hear it, but something just don't sound/look right..
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Another Craptastic post ;) thumbs
Patiently waiting for confirmation. If this is true an unchecked runaway methane volcano would be serious doom.

Thanks!

I have done some mild research. Methane is very common with oil deposits. Oil deposits under oceans, seas, ect contain more methane from the sea floor. The deeper the oil deposit, the more ocean life above that starts the process of methane generation and falls to the sea floor. Deeper deposits had more time to generate methane gases.

The oil released into the Gulf has an orange color. I am looking into that as I believe it may indicate a saturation of some sort. Could excessive methane create an orange color slick?

I'll post more when I find it. Anyone else who has info please report. As a massive methane release would spell Biblical Doom.

Imagine if a methane bomb running 600 miles in diameter were to explode. The shockwave would circle the Earth several times. The entire world would hear it and many will face deadly over pressure. Those in between will have blown out, bloody ears.



Back when I was a kid in Oklahoma, whenever we drove by an oil site, there was always a plume of fire where they were burning off the (?)methane. If they are really venting lots of methane, they need to clear the area and release a fire bomb or whatever they have, so it won't grow so large and then explode. A steady burn is much better than a large explosion. (for the retards who say that it won't burn underwater, you are correct. burn it at the surface)

Gas used to be so cheap back in the 50's that lots of people kept a gas yard light burning 24x7. Back when gasoline got down to 19cents a gallon, milk was about 25cents a gallon and a carton of sigs were less than $2. (he mumbles to himself) and some places sold 8 to 10 hamburgers for a buck on 29th street in OKC...before there was a Sonic.
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i was born in 1948.
i also remember watching as we embraced more and more technology...faster is better.
and i do love my internet/computer...which needs fossil fuel in it's construction.
there must be a balance of how we harness momma nature.
nah...momma nature WINS hands down !
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There is a lot of it there. This is from a Baylor website.

The U.S Department of Energy (DOE) has awarded a Baylor University researcher more than $270,000 to search a portion of the Gulf of Mexico for a massive source of hydrocarbon energy called methane hydrate, the main ingredient of natural gas.

Dr. John Dunbar, an associate professor of geology at Baylor, will use a new search method to acquire geophysical data of the site, located roughly 200 miles off the Mississippi coast, in hopes of providing a detailed map of where the methane hydrate is located, how often the gas "seeps through" and the volume that is underneath the seafloor.

Called the Mississippi Canyon, the site is about 3,000 feet wide and about 3,000 feet under water. It also has both active and dormant gas vents. Other academic institutions have been researching the site since 2001, but have not been able to ascertain where the hydrate is located nor how much is there.

"Methane hydrate sources, such as the one in Mississippi Canyon, could provide a major portion of our energy source for the future," Dunbar said. "Methane is also used as a feedstock for plastics, fertilizers, etc. We are going to need hydrocarbons for the foreseeable future."

They are not saying much about this whole mess and that is what worries me.

The Methane deposit is 200 miles off shore, 3,000 feet wide and 3,000 feet deep.....

But then they say they can not determine how big it is.

The oil that is flooding into the Gulf of Mexico is creating an orange and red slick. It looks like blood, seriously. Makes me wonder what the composition is because I doubt it is mostly raw crude oil, which is tar black.

It may be a two way scenario...
(1) Nuke it closed to prevent the undeniable damage
(2) Let the methane build to explosive concentrations.

One thing that concerns me about the dome that is lowered. It was squared. Under severe pressures, it should be rounded like a real dome.

Think about this, the dome box is not what we are told it is. It is a large nuclear weapon designed to blast downwards. The device is large to obtain the depth needed and to aid in directing the blast down.

Just when the dome gets to the location, the coast guard bans ship/air travel.

I really think that dome may be a nuclear device. It may be a massive fucker too. Reasons are this, the pressures down there are very high and that requires more explosive power to counter act the pressures. And yet even more explosive power would be needed to counter the oils gushing pressures. And they may only have one shot at this. So a large Mega-ton nuclear device may be the last solution and they are running out of conventional ideas.

Time is running out!
 Quoting: ºCRAPº



I thin you are on to something here. A nuclear shape charge.......This would be VERY terrible.

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