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BREAKING - Gulf Oil Spill is Releasing Methane - I said it then and now is confirmed 5000:1

 
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Isn't methane gas one of the theories used to explain ships disappearing in the Bermuda Triangle. Pretty darn close to the spill, isn't it?
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There is a lot of it there. This is from a Baylor website.

The U.S Department of Energy (DOE) has awarded a Baylor University researcher more than $270,000 to search a portion of the Gulf of Mexico for a massive source of hydrocarbon energy called methane hydrate, the main ingredient of natural gas.

Dr. John Dunbar, an associate professor of geology at Baylor, will use a new search method to acquire geophysical data of the site, located roughly 200 miles off the Mississippi coast, in hopes of providing a detailed map of where the methane hydrate is located, how often the gas "seeps through" and the volume that is underneath the seafloor.

Called the Mississippi Canyon, the site is about 3,000 feet wide and about 3,000 feet under water. It also has both active and dormant gas vents. Other academic institutions have been researching the site since 2001, but have not been able to ascertain where the hydrate is located nor how much is there.

"Methane hydrate sources, such as the one in Mississippi Canyon, could provide a major portion of our energy source for the future," Dunbar said. "Methane is also used as a feedstock for plastics, fertilizers, etc. We are going to need hydrocarbons for the foreseeable future."

They are not saying much about this whole mess and that is what worries me.

The Methane deposit is 200 miles off shore, 3,000 feet wide and 3,000 feet deep.....

But then they say they can not determine how big it is.

The oil that is flooding into the Gulf of Mexico is creating an orange and red slick. It looks like blood, seriously. Makes me wonder what the composition is because I doubt it is mostly raw crude oil, which is tar black.

It may be a two way scenario...
(1) Nuke it closed to prevent the undeniable damage
(2) Let the methane build to explosive concentrations.

One thing that concerns me about the dome that is lowered. It was squared. Under severe pressures, it should be rounded like a real dome.

Think about this, the dome box is not what we are told it is. It is a large nuclear weapon designed to blast downwards. The device is large to obtain the depth needed and to aid in directing the blast down.

Just when the dome gets to the location, the coast guard bans ship/air travel.

I really think that dome may be a nuclear device. It may be a massive fucker too. Reasons are this, the pressures down there are very high and that requires more explosive power to counter act the pressures. And yet even more explosive power would be needed to counter the oils gushing pressures. And they may only have one shot at this. So a large Mega-ton nuclear device may be the last solution and they are running out of conventional ideas.

Time is running out!



I thin you are on to something here. A nuclear shape charge.......This would be VERY terrible.
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I think you both are on something.
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hadn't "they" just about decided that the weird stuff that goes on in the Bermuda Triangle, is a result of methane escaping from the ocean floor..that the methane rises to the surface and engulfs whatever it encounters, which then unbalances floating ships and even planes as it rises out of the water and into the air...this situation in the Gulf is one very frightening situation...I've worked to save oil slicked birds/animals...not a fun thing to do or see...
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This may have been said already but I watched an interview today with one of the man from the rig and he said the safety override appears to have been turned off by someone?

Also they were lead to believe there was a safety something that would prevent something like this which is the above and apperently turned off but even if on - it is not really that reliable.

Seems deliberate?

This is a false flag or terror act?

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hadn't "they" just about decided that the weird stuff that goes on in the Bermuda Triangle, is a result of methane escaping from the ocean floor..that the methane rises to the surface and engulfs whatever it encounters, which then unbalances floating ships and even planes as it rises out of the water and into the air...this situation in the Gulf is one very frightening situation...I've worked to save oil slicked birds/animals...not a fun thing to do or see...
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I've only seen a few animals with "supposed" crude oil on them....where are all the DEAD SEA CRITTERS?

Eighteen days...still WAITING? Not that I WANT this to happen, just getting more curious about the DELAY.

And, will SOMEBODY explain WHY the crap leaking out is RED?!

I've heard the following hypotheses...

Dispersant
Depth of leak
Type of crude
Sunlight refraction

B.S.!!!

Fossil fuels are BLACKISH....ever seen any RED COAL?

BLACK GOLD, TEXAS TEA!
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I read somewhere on the net many many years ago that the Tunguska event was probably caused from a gas explosion,because there was never any debrie found from a meteor.
This guy built a huge model using matchsticks for trees and exploded objects over them, trying to create the same pattern the trees were found in after they had located the center of the event. The only thing he found that created the pattern was a release and ignition of gas.
I always thought that it was a better theory than the meteor one.
Another coverup!
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I'm convinced it was not just methane but methane HYDRATE.

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hadn't "they" just about decided that the weird stuff that goes on in the Bermuda Triangle, is a result of methane escaping from the ocean floor..that the methane rises to the surface and engulfs whatever it encounters, which then unbalances floating ships and even planes as it rises out of the water and into the air...this situation in the Gulf is one very frightening situation...I've worked to save oil slicked birds/animals...not a fun thing to do or see...
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You bring up a VERY good point which really debunks the methane leak we are being told about.

Methane when it releases frm the bottom of the ocean floor and rises as a bubble (or air for that matter but methane is much worse) changes the boyancy properties of the water. It seperates the water molecules with gas particules which in turn makes the ships unable to float and they sink. They sink VERY quickly straight down at almost 4 times the speed of what something the same mass would sink in water under normal circumstances.

It can cause airplanes to fall right out of the sky too.

*IF* a large methane bubble escapped the ocean floor and went stright up *AND* and aircraft was flying and ran into it it would fall until it reached air again to obtain lift.

This is because methane is much heavier than air, therefore no lift or glide can be accomplished. The aircrafts forward intertia would have to be sufficient to get to the edge of the methane, and it would have to exit the methane cloud at enough altitude to regain lift and thrust.


I just realized I am a huge nerd. LOL
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Well not much they can do about it then,if its going to blow look on the brite side there will be easy fishing just picking them up from the surface.ha,ha
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I'm convinced it was not just methane but methane HYDRATE.

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The density of the gaseous methane in hydrates is 162 times greater than methane gas in the atmosphere.

Crystallized at depth...gas locked in a cage of ice and under great pressure due to the lower density. Coming up the stream (or from the bottom), the structure, stability and volatility changes...pressure and temp changes...expansion...larger amounts of gas released than anticipated...

The Gulf is one of the few locations where methane hydrate is found in abundance other than in the permafrost.

They refer to hydrates as Fire In Ice

And THIS is one of the reasons that a NUKE or explosives are just f-in' INSANE ideas.

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From a couple of sources:

Deep-sea sediments host the vast majority of natural gas hydrates, which exist within a pressure- and temperature-limited volume often called the gas hydrate stability zone (GHSZ). Across a typical continental margin, the GHSZ makes a lens beneath the seafloor. Today, this lens begins at 250 to 500 meters water depth because, depending on local conditions, this is where the pressure is high enough and the water temperature low enough to create gas hydrates. From this depth down, the seafloor marks the top of the lens because gas hydrates, like ice, float and cannot accumulate in water. The bottom of the lens lies within the sediment, where temperatures are too warm for gas hydrates.

Although pressures and temperatures conducive for gas hydrates exist throughout the deep ocean, most deposits have been found along continental margins where high burial rates of organic matter drive considerable production of hydrocarbon gases, particularly methane. Gas hydrates form at or near the seafloor in a few locations where conduits such as faults bring gas-charged fluids to very shallow sediment, including the Gulf of Mexico and the Oregon margin. Most gas hydrates, however, occur in the GHSZ well beneath the seafloor as part of a dynamic system.

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In the Gulf of Mexico, methane rises rapidly from below the seafloor and creates gas hydrate mounds.
Courtesy of Ian R. MacDonald, Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi.

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Some researchers speculate that blowouts of marine gas hydrates in the geologic past may have released enough methane, a potent greenhouse gas, to drive up global temperatures. Additionally, some researchers hypothesize that when hydrates broke away from steep slopes on the seafloor, they could have triggered massive seafloor avalanches and even tsunamis. Other scientists are investigating the potential of gas hydrates, onshore and offshore, as a future energy source.

Lisa M. Pinsker

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[link to www.geotimes.org]

[link to www.hnei.hawaii.edu]
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Is it time for me to leave coastal Texas yet? hiding
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This is no laughing matter as scientists know methane explosions have happen before and can be very, very large. Thousands of times in magnitude of the largest nuclear bomb built by the Russians.

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could such an explosion in that location unhinge the New Madrid fault?

hmm
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What if the Oilrig Explosion was caused by methane in the first place? Like they hit a methan bubble, and now the outgasing supports the loss/spill of oil, that would set the Status to "We´re fucked". doomsol
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hadn't "they" just about decided that the weird stuff that goes on in the Bermuda Triangle, is a result of methane escaping from the ocean floor..that the methane rises to the surface and engulfs whatever it encounters, which then unbalances floating ships and even planes as it rises out of the water and into the air...this situation in the Gulf is one very frightening situation...I've worked to save oil slicked birds/animals...not a fun thing to do or see...



You bring up a VERY good point which really debunks the methane leak we are being told about.

Methane when it releases frm the bottom of the ocean floor and rises as a bubble (or air for that matter but methane is much worse) changes the boyancy properties of the water. It seperates the water molecules with gas particules which in turn makes the ships unable to float and they sink. They sink VERY quickly straight down at almost 4 times the speed of what something the same mass would sink in water under normal circumstances.

It can cause airplanes to fall right out of the sky too.

*IF* a large methane bubble escapped the ocean floor and went stright up *AND* and aircraft was flying and ran into it it would fall until it reached air again to obtain lift.

This is because methane is much heavier than air, therefore no lift or glide can be accomplished. The aircrafts forward intertia would have to be sufficient to get to the edge of the methane, and it would have to exit the methane cloud at enough altitude to regain lift and thrust.


I just realized I am a huge nerd. LOL
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ok....weren't there Coast Guard ships out there in the Gulf just this last week, that were ordered back into shore? I suppose methane could have been the reason why?? but then, wouldn't the gas/hydrate also have an effect on whatever ships, helios or whatever they are using to lower that dome over the wellhead also?? How would they stay afloat or in the air? and HOW would they control the lowering of the dome, itself...and I notice that they say it has to be done slowly and precisely, in order to avoid further destruction of the well....Something damned sure, doesn't make any sense...and it would seem to me that dead/dying animals and birds would be littering the shoreline throughout the Gulf states by now...
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A methane release could explain why the rig sank. Considering the rig had two massive pontoon things keeping it a float. Both would have to fail equally for it to sink. I never heard of the rig sitting sideways before sinking.

Why did the rig land on top of the well leak? Because it was gushing methane which provided a faster sinking. And the rig would naturally fall in the methane bubble area since the water outside of it is denser and would push the rig right back into the methane bubbled water.

That is how the rig landed on top of the well!!!!

Damn, I think that's it!!!
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Another Craptastic post ;) thumbs
Patiently waiting for confirmation. If this is true an unchecked runaway methane volcano would be serious doom.
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138.
Location. Rosario, Argentina
Date: August 2 2001
Time: night
That night, the visitors summoned M, and she felt herself traveling through a tunnel of "water" or something that felt very similar to water. She soon found herself in a jungle area that was very hot. Suddenly she found herself in a mansion-type structure all white in color, it gave her the impression of being in a hospital. Inside she found numerous children of both sexes that were apparently living there. The children were barefooted and wore white loose fitting outfits. She also saw human adults that identified themselves as "instructors". The children resembled humans but with some alien traits, almost like hybrids.





The aliens told her that soon they would be leaving the earth due to the coming chaos and cataclysm.




She saw an image of

a huge explosion

and many injured persons.
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Type: G
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A methane release could explain why the rig sank. Considering the rig had two massive pontoon things keeping it a float. Both would have to fail equally for it to sink. I never heard of the rig sitting sideways before sinking.

Why did the rig land on top of the well leak? Because it was gushing methane which provided a faster sinking. And the rig would naturally fall in the methane bubble area since the water outside of it is denser and would push the rig right back into the methane bubbled water.

That is how the rig landed on top of the well!!!!

Damn, I think that's it!!!
 Quoting: ºCRAPº


The rig is not on top of the well.

The methane hypothesis has been extensively discussed in many early threads.

CRAP, have you read the fisherman's account? What he describes is characteristic of unanticipated amounts of methane coming up the stream. The thread is here...just skip the first couple pages of BS...

Thread: Hyundai built BP Oil Rig explosion was an accident!! Proof! (Page 5)

Fisherman's account is here:

[link to www.mudinmyblood.net]

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Seriously, SHR was right about methane causing the explosion, read his post.

And then it hit me, the Rig sank from methane release. Which would drop the rig on top of the location the methane was being released from.
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A methane release could explain why the rig sank. Considering the rig had two massive pontoon things keeping it a float. Both would have to fail equally for it to sink. I never heard of the rig sitting sideways before sinking.

Why did the rig land on top of the well leak? Because it was gushing methane which provided a faster sinking. And the rig would naturally fall in the methane bubble area since the water outside of it is denser and would push the rig right back into the methane bubbled water.

That is how the rig landed on top of the well!!!!

Damn, I think that's it!!!


The rig is not on top of the well.

The methane hypothesis has been extensively discussed in many early threads.

CRAP, have you read the fisherman's account? What he describes is characteristic of unanticipated amounts of methane coming up the stream. The thread is here...just skip the first couple pages of BS...

Thread: Hyundai built BP Oil Rig explosion was an accident!! Proof! (Page 5)

Fisherman's account is here:

[link to www.mudinmyblood.net]

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k, thanks. I will read.
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Seriously, SHR was right about methane causing the explosion, read his post.

And then it hit me, the Rig sank from methane release. Which would drop the rig on top of the location the methane was being released from.
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What burned the big hole in the aluminum helideck...from the top? I'll look for the link....
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63.IMPLANTED(Nordics)/.../ CATASTROPHE 2000/2011
Location. Otter Tail County Minnesota
Date: March 1 1990
Time: night
The witness ran into 11 inches of snow in her front yard to see a hovering disc shaped craft, this object ascended into a larger hovering object that suddenly appeared. At this point the witness suffered a black out and was apparently abducted. She vaguely recalled being taken onboard by tall blond Nordic type beings


that predicted an earthly disaster between the years 2000 and 2011.



An implant was also inserted into her nostril.

HC addition # 2330
Source: Don Worley, UFOS Alien Encounters 1995
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Methane gas leak? Nuke it! chuckle
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Wonder what would happen now if a good 'ol thunder and lightning storm hit the Gulf?

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Seriously, SHR was right about methane causing the explosion, read his post.

And then it hit me, the Rig sank from methane release. Which would drop the rig on top of the location the methane was being released from.

What burned the big hole in the aluminum helideck...from the top? I'll look for the link....
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Methane gas under very high pressures that caught fire. Like placing fuel in a power washer, lighting it and spraying 1 inch from drywall.

I imagine the massive methane tourch blew the hole.
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Seriously, SHR was right about methane causing the explosion, read his post.

And then it hit me, the Rig sank from methane release. Which would drop the rig on top of the location the methane was being released from.

What burned the big hole in the aluminum helideck...from the top? I'll look for the link....

Methane gas under very high pressures that caught fire. Like placing fuel in a power washer, lighting it and spraying 1 inch from drywall.

I imagine the massive methane tourch blew the hole.
 Quoting: ºCRAPº

The photo shows it was burned "downward" towards the sea?
LOOK... [link to news.bbc.co.uk]
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Seriously, SHR was right about methane causing the explosion, read his post.

And then it hit me, the Rig sank from methane release. Which would drop the rig on top of the location the methane was being released from.

What burned the big hole in the aluminum helideck...from the top? I'll look for the link....

Methane gas under very high pressures that caught fire. Like placing fuel in a power washer, lighting it and spraying 1 inch from drywall.

I imagine the massive methane tourch blew the hole.

The photo shows it was burned "downward" towards the sea?
LOOK... [link to news.bbc.co.uk]
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And here... [link to www.whas11.com]
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Me again:

And this one wich is VERY talking:

55.
Location. Dewey County Oklahoma
Date: mid August 1954
Time: daytime
Gladys White Eagle, on a riverbank, saw a "flying saucer" come
straight down with a roar.



A tall, lean man with a dark complexion &
a long beard got out & told her
the US would be destroyed
by an earthquake and bomb on October 13 1954.




He told me that in twisted words
and then he laughed very hard. Then he said for me to come to the
spot again today, but I'm not going back because I'm scared."

Humcat 1954-43
Source: Humcat quoting Newspaper source
Type: B
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It means someone knew of the methane reservoir ...
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It's my opinion that this new "story" that is being released(since yesterday, BTW) was cooked up during the closed door meeting with Obambi and BP last week.

Reporters were refused access, if I remember right.


It was the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and it was BP, TansOcean, and Halliburtion that was there. Get the facts straight then argue you point.
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If Halliburton was there, no other facts are needed.
Actually on second thought: It sounds like a meeting of the Mafia Dons. They are ALL a bunch of criminals.
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This thread lends credence to the theory that the dinosaurs farted themselves into ex-stink-ion.

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