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I hate to say it.... but I no longer have much in common with my friends

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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I cant speak to them about our usual topics of conversation anymore, it doesnt fill me.
I try to speak about subjects we talk about here but its like playing tennis on your own, you throw the ball and it doesnt bouce back. They just stare glassy eyed and switch to small talk again.
I have changed so much.


You are so Right !! It has got to where when I deal with people I have known for several years.......that it is like talking to strangers at a party. Just the social fluff topics. Never much of any depth.

Like does attract like though. Keep that in mind as you meet new people. New friends will be around before you know it, and these will be people you can explore your new interest with !!
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there does seem to be a distinct division happening among people. Some are "awakening" some arent.
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Ive changed soooooo much in such a short time, Im amazed really.
I have outgrown them.

Another Programming Success!!!

We'll have that army soon!!!

Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!

+1
-1 Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!


Finally I had a chance to brake through IP ban, which I have helped to impose on a vast range of ip addresses in Spain.
Well I get banned frequently... Don't ask me why.

But luckily for me I can get ips from anywhere in spain, mine is REALLY dynamic...

You are new here, my spanish friend...
and I hate to brake to you that the massage above is the most relieving and, I'd say, truthful, on this thread.
You need A LOT MORE discernment to make yourself learn and what you call 'grow' here, on GLP, or you risk to 'sprout new shoots' in all the wrong ways.


MAC address cloning and hexadecimal are your friends.

No habla Anglais...

F u, I speak 5.

Hablaba por mí mismo, mariposa!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 964659

¿Cuál es su problema, gusanito?
Do you have a problem, worm.
V chiom tvoja, cherv' navoznyj.
Mi az Ön problémája, féreg?
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05/08/2010 01:26 PM
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I feel you OP.

I find myself increasingly bored with mainstream conversations and small talk. Once you wake up to what's really going on, there's no going back.

My search began 10 years ago and I am a very different person now. Luckily I have a few people I can discuss GLP things with. My mom is on the same page as me and my boyfriend is interested in a lot of "conspiracies" too. We frequently discuss topics on GLP and he even asks me about "so what's new on GLP?". ha ha

Most of my old friends have nothing in common with me anymore. They are all obsessed with sports and the women all want to get married and start families. It's not something I can relate to at all. Completely different wave lengths. They will wake up eventually if they are meant to. No need to force it on them.
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hf

I try to educate my friends ... GENTLY!!! ... but some just don't want to listen. One was literally laughing at me when I mentioned Nassim haramein's research (she didn't know who he was), and my courteous reply began with the words, "He's a physicist who ..." ... and at 'physicist' ... she rolled her eyes and started giggling again.

As if I was wasting my time watching "physics" videos.

With some, it's hopeless. You gotta let 'em go.
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Me too. I have (er.."had") a friend of mine, very intelligent, good guy, who suddenly stopped contacting me after I sent him evidence of increased comets strikes, global seed vault, and manchester library moving volumes underground...Now I'm down to 3 friends. My 55 yr old sister doesn't even talk to me at all now. She's grown increasingly quiet..LOL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 748710



And all of the above you quoted is happening! Amazing how people find facts threatening.


I have friends and family who don't get it, but I have other ways of connecting with them, so I connect with them in those ways and don't even bother with the rest. I have learned after decades of living that this is how you have to be if you want to keep connected with people. It's annoying, but most people are not tolerant, even (especially?) the ones who preach tolerance. How many people are acceptant of atheists/agnostics in the United States? Why are European leaders trying to prevent Islamic women from wearing burqas? Why do some consider you anti-Semitic if you criticize the policies of Israel? I could go on and on and on. .... I just try to find the "connection" I have with someone, if it is someone I value, and not go near the rest ....
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Ive changed soooooo much in such a short time, Im amazed really.
I have outgrown them.

Another Programming Success!!!

We'll have that army soon!!!

Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!

+1
-1 Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!


Finally I had a chance to brake through IP ban, which I have helped to impose on a vast range of ip addresses in Spain.
Well I get banned frequently... Don't ask me why.

But luckily for me I can get ips from anywhere in spain, mine is REALLY dynamic...

You are new here, my spanish friend...
and I hate to brake to you that the massage above is the most relieving and, I'd say, truthful, on this thread.
You need A LOT MORE discernment to make yourself learn and what you call 'grow' here, on GLP, or you risk to 'sprout new shoots' in all the wrong ways.


MAC address cloning and hexadecimal are your friends.

No habla Anglais...

F u, I speak 5.

Hablaba por mí mismo, mariposa!

¿Cuál es su problema, gusanito?
Do you have a problem, worm.
V chiom tvoja, cherv' navoznyj.
Mi az Ön problémája, féreg?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 964681

Do you have to be a pretentious dick?
Babelfish is no way to prove a point.
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Re: I hate to say it.... but I no longer have much in common with my friends
Ive changed soooooo much in such a short time, Im amazed really.
I have outgrown them.

Another Programming Success!!!

We'll have that army soon!!!

Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!

+1
-1 Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!


Finally I had a chance to brake through IP ban, which I have helped to impose on a vast range of ip addresses in Spain.
Well I get banned frequently... Don't ask me why.

But luckily for me I can get ips from anywhere in spain, mine is REALLY dynamic...

You are new here, my spanish friend...
and I hate to brake to you that the massage above is the most relieving and, I'd say, truthful, on this thread.
You need A LOT MORE discernment to make yourself learn and what you call 'grow' here, on GLP, or you risk to 'sprout new shoots' in all the wrong ways.


I am not the type of person easily influenced.
Its not programming imo its knowledge and understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80256


I could take the original, "Another Programming Success...", two ways. But if it's the way 964681 is interpreting it, yes, +1, things aren't all as they seem, OP.
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05/08/2010 01:29 PM
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Good thread. For those of us who are surrounded by Facebookers, MySpacers, and other I-have-more-friends-than-you competitions, it's good to know that I'm not alone in wanting my privacy, and being able to talk to people who think like I do.
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05/08/2010 01:29 PM
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Re: I hate to say it.... but I no longer have much in common with my friends
Bonjour!
Hi,Brothers!

It's all about a big puzzle.Since my childhood i have been abducted.My IQ was always above average.I broke links with my family long ago since they always disrespected me "you have answers for everything,mister 'know-everything!!!!WHO do you think you are?!Do you think we are shit?!"
They always tried to reduce me:'go to the shop' and as I came back:'go AGAIN,because we forgot this or that...and so on'...

I read many books on many subjects (American scientist/Time magaine,New scientist,History books(Napoleon,Hitler,Lenine Churchill,Montesquieu,Audubon,Lafayette's life and so on(not an exhaustive list!)...Entomology,Biology,Geography,and so on...I became specialist in mostly everything)
French was my mothertongue but I learned ENGLISH by myself,then japanese and so on...Now,I speak/understand and read more than 11 languages!!!

I became a researcher in ufology fields...And Tesla ,Keely TT Brown...had no more secrets for my knowledge(and so on).

I discovered GLP in a mail I received frm Above --Top+S and I knew this was the best INFO place.
Of course...

When I check the list of all the people in my mobilephone:
ONLY REPTOIDS/ROBOTOIDS,profiteers and opportunists.

NOW I CAN SEE what they really are.
Should I say they BULLSHITTED my whole life.
wink.

And the fact is ,nowadays that I can see it all.
Ratsnunnakis and all af them.(Enki/EA and the Enlil stuf,planet Hebra...War of the solar system with destruction of Malona/Maldek...(NB:every solar sys has NINE planets.We lost one...Thanks to Zeus/Marduk...)

In fact,I am aware of most things they wanted to be secret.

All human history in itself is now TRANSPARENT to my mind.

Analogy?

It's like seeing it all from above!(I cried a lot!)

Love and Hugs!
And...HOW can we make this world better?
-->by coming and fight on GLP everyday.

OK,I post this now because it's becoming long for your eyes...
lol

Here,it's cold in Belgium and we will have to vote for a separation problem on the june...13...
(always that number 13!!!SHIT!shit!and...SHIT!)

wink
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Ive changed soooooo much in such a short time, Im amazed really.
I have outgrown them.

Another Programming Success!!!

We'll have that army soon!!!

Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!

+1
-1 Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!


Finally I had a chance to brake through IP ban, which I have helped to impose on a vast range of ip addresses in Spain.
Well I get banned frequently... Don't ask me why.

But luckily for me I can get ips from anywhere in spain, mine is REALLY dynamic...

You are new here, my spanish friend...
and I hate to brake to you that the massage above is the most relieving and, I'd say, truthful, on this thread.
You need A LOT MORE discernment to make yourself learn and what you call 'grow' here, on GLP, or you risk to 'sprout new shoots' in all the wrong ways.


MAC address cloning and hexadecimal are your friends.

No habla Anglais...

F u, I speak 5.

Hablaba por mí mismo, mariposa!

¿Cuál es su problema, gusanito?
Do you have a problem, worm.
V chiom tvoja, cherv' navoznyj.
Mi az Ön problémája, féreg?

Do you have to be a pretentious dick?
Babelfish is no way to prove a point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 964659

What you so clearly missed, moron, was that the initial "No habla Anglais" was SARCASM because of the subject matter of your responses tending towards "how to get around being banned..." So, STFU! For someone who supposedly speaks 5 languages, you're pretty fucking stupid!
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I wish that the GLP mindset was the majority mindset in societies. I believe it is a larger portion than is represented but it is skillfully repressed by the media.
We could really get somewhere as a species instead of all this mindfuck of a life entrenched in wars and fear.



open and free communication is the KEY to evolution of the human species..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



Why do you censor some threads and keywords on your site then? That's a dishonest statement Trinity.

I will believe what you've just said when this site is 100% free. And it's not currently. You can't argue.
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05/08/2010 01:38 PM
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Ive changed soooooo much in such a short time, Im amazed really.
I have outgrown them.

Another Programming Success!!!

We'll have that army soon!!!

Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!

+1
-1 Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!


Finally I had a chance to brake through IP ban, which I have helped to impose on a vast range of ip addresses in Spain.
Well I get banned frequently... Don't ask me why.

But luckily for me I can get ips from anywhere in spain, mine is REALLY dynamic...

You are new here, my spanish friend...
and I hate to brake to you that the massage above is the most relieving and, I'd say, truthful, on this thread.
You need A LOT MORE discernment to make yourself learn and what you call 'grow' here, on GLP, or you risk to 'sprout new shoots' in all the wrong ways.


MAC address cloning and hexadecimal are your friends.

No habla Anglais...

F u, I speak 5.

Hablaba por mí mismo, mariposa!

¿Cuál es su problema, gusanito?
Do you have a problem, worm.
V chiom tvoja, cherv' navoznyj.
Mi az Ön problémája, féreg?

Do you have to be a pretentious dick?
Babelfish is no way to prove a point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 964659

soory, it may seem to you so, I apologizes, for misunderstanding and for being rude, but I indeed, speak 5.
My first and best is Russian;
the second is Ukrainian;
The third is English;
Spanish is the forth:
Hungarian is the 5th.
I can do a bit of German too.
But mainly, i wanted to apologize.
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Ive changed soooooo much in such a short time, Im amazed really.
I have outgrown them.

Another Programming Success!!!

We'll have that army soon!!!

Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!

+1
-1 Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!


Finally I had a chance to brake through IP ban, which I have helped to impose on a vast range of ip addresses in Spain.
Well I get banned frequently... Don't ask me why.

But luckily for me I can get ips from anywhere in spain, mine is REALLY dynamic...

You are new here, my spanish friend...
and I hate to brake to you that the massage above is the most relieving and, I'd say, truthful, on this thread.
You need A LOT MORE discernment to make yourself learn and what you call 'grow' here, on GLP, or you risk to 'sprout new shoots' in all the wrong ways.


MAC address cloning and hexadecimal are your friends.

No habla Anglais...

F u, I speak 5.

Hablaba por mí mismo, mariposa!

¿Cuál es su problema, gusanito?
Do you have a problem, worm.
V chiom tvoja, cherv' navoznyj.
Mi az Ön problémája, féreg?

Do you have to be a pretentious dick?
Babelfish is no way to prove a point.

soory, it may seem to you so, I apologizes, for misunderstanding and for being rude, but I indeed, speak 5.
My first and best is Russian;
the second is Ukrainian;
The third is English;
Spanish is the forth:
Hungarian is the 5th.
I can do a bit of German too.
But mainly, i wanted to apologize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 964681

Duly noted and accepted.
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05/08/2010 01:39 PM
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I have more in common with you guys, wether we agree or not. Here is where I find the intellectual stimuli I need. Here is where I find minds of similar inclination and interests.
I dont have much in common with all my friends anymore though I pretend I do for friendships sake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80256

hello spain ...
i hear same shit here as well..
well at least you have us ...
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At my age I've had enough of "friends" that require you to not make them think and just stroke their ego. About 5 years ago I told them what was coming and they laughed a good minute at me. I decided to withdraw from them as light and fluffy ain't my style. Saw one of them the other day and they're now hurting, "you laughing now?" I asked......not a peep out of them.

I think we get resented because the information we impart takes peoples feel good away and because of that we become anathema to them. Also, peoples pride will not acknowledge someone who knows more than themselves. As grandma would say, "nobody likes smart people", and she was right.
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By the way multilingual skills do not correlate much with being dumb or smart... :)
Go to Ciro and see for yourself...
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I have more in common with you guys, wether we agree or not. Here is where I find the intellectual stimuli I need. Here is where I find minds of similar inclination and interests.
I dont have much in common with all my friends anymore though I pretend I do for friendships sake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80256


welcome to the club, there is nothing wrong with that and you shouldn't hate to say that. Many people outgrow their peers, its up to you to find a community you can grow with, and if your current one does not help you grow, then the best thing you can do for yourself is move on. doesn't mean you should cut your friends out of your life, but never settle for less than what you want.
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open and free communication is the KEY to evolution of the human species..
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That is a nice thought Trinity, but in all honesty.

Humans are way to stupid to evolve any further.

The next few years will be proof of that as this current moment in our history is also proof of that.

Regards
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Ive changed soooooo much in such a short time, Im amazed really.
I have outgrown them.

Another Programming Success!!!

We'll have that army soon!!!

Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!

+1
-1 Mua-ha-ha-ha!!!


Finally I had a chance to brake through IP ban, which I have helped to impose on a vast range of ip addresses in Spain.
Well I get banned frequently... Don't ask me why.

But luckily for me I can get ips from anywhere in spain, mine is REALLY dynamic...

You are new here, my spanish friend...
and I hate to brake to you that the massage above is the most relieving and, I'd say, truthful, on this thread.
You need A LOT MORE discernment to make yourself learn and what you call 'grow' here, on GLP, or you risk to 'sprout new shoots' in all the wrong ways.


I am not the type of person easily influenced.
Its not programming imo its knowledge and understanding.

I could take the original, "Another Programming Success...", two ways. But if it's the way 964681 is interpreting it, yes, +1, things aren't all as they seem, OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 943170

Nothing usually is as it seems ,in most aspects of life there can be programming ..it depends on awareness and choice. Some find it easier just to swim along with the current others prefer the emotional intellectual spiritual and personal adventure of swimming up stream.

As in everything discernment is the key.
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The people who are the most frustrating to talk with are not the people whose lives revolve around small-town gossip, sports and celebrity scandal. It's the political junkies who read the NYT, or watch MSNBC, FOX etc. They think they're informed, but they just repeat b.s. talking point disinfo jerkit. You tell them something different and you're a conspiracy nut, or some kind of fanatic.
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¿De donde eres amigo? ¿De que parte de España?

Yo soy español y estoy en España tambien, (banearon mi ip sin ningún motivo). XD.
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I live on top of the freakin' New Madrid fault zone, due to go off this year or next, according to native american legend.

My wife wants me to build onto our house. I can't seem to convince her that the eq's around the world will eventually make their way here.

Also, lots of doom predicted and happening this year that is not even earthquake related. And she wants me to continue living as if everything were normal.

And the worst part is, I live in a state that is Obama crazy, anything the liberal elite want, our state does. I can't even fight the evil bastards politically.

Be glad you don't have a wife or girlfriend to worry about. I worry about my wife all the time, what will happen to her, what the state might do to her when the martial laws start coming down upon us. It is a horrid feeling. Horrid.
 Quoting: Nyhee7 958580


I haven't met your wife, of course, but if she has anything in common with most women, she'll listen to a practical suggestion. I repeat: practical. It's not enough to say, 'this place is no good because of this, that and so on.' Suggest a better place, a more likely safe one, to build a home and add to it. Show her a plan for paying the bills there also; a woman who puts meals on the table knows they don't get there by magic.

Few indeed are going to go along with the idea of refusing to put down roots anywhere at all because of what 'might' happen. It's not as if you can carry all your emergency food storage and ammo on your backs. Think out your survival plan just as if she already agreed with you, mindful of the practical details and then and only then, present it to her. What's more important to you: your survival as a family or whether or not she agrees with everything you say?

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¿De donde eres amigo? ¿De que parte de España?

Yo soy español y estoy en España tambien, (banearon mi ip sin ningún motivo). XD.
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Yeah! you tell'm asshat!
Life...it's like a roll of toilet paper: the closer you get to the end, the faster it goes.
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¿De donde eres amigo? ¿De que parte de España?

Yo soy español y estoy en España tambien, (banearon mi ip sin ningún motivo). XD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 931548

Its probably the fault of the guy with the random ip lol, he said he is getting many servers banned in Spain because of his ip.
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Ive changed soooooo much in such a short time, Im amazed really.
I have outgrown them.
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You didn't out grow them thats your ego talking.
When you have EGO death you will have out grown them.
Right now you are at a higher state of awareness.
There are many stages to this. Some are not so nice.
At the end of this trip you might come to see that the grass is always greener
on the other side of the fence. You may even regret coming to this side of the fence in time. respect what KNOWING can do. Sometimes just knowing about something is enough to make you go MAD.



-peace be in you and around you always.
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Ive changed soooooo much in such a short time, Im amazed really.
I have outgrown them.


You didn't out grow them thats your ego talking.
When you have EGO death you will have out grown them.
Right now you are at a higher state of awareness.
There are many stages to this. Some are not so nice.
At the end of this trip you might come to see that the grass is always greener
on the other side of the fence. You may even regret coming to this side of the fence in time. respect what KNOWING can do. Sometimes just knowing about something is enough to make you go MAD.



-peace be in you and around you always.
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It brings calmness to the soul and silences the ego hf
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I want a GLP Tshirt..:)
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me too!
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I have more in common with you guys, wether we agree or not. Here is where I find the intellectual stimuli I need. Here is where I find minds of similar inclination and interests.
I dont have much in common with all my friends anymore though I pretend I do for friendships sake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80256

Hey, OP, maybe you could find groups in your area that discuss GLP topics. Is there a similat site to GLP in Spain? You could meet local conspiracy theorists there.
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I have more in common with you guys, wether we agree or not. Here is where I find the intellectual stimuli I need. Here is where I find minds of similar inclination and interests.
I dont have much in common with all my friends anymore though I pretend I do for friendships sake.

Hey, OP, maybe you could find groups in your area that discuss GLP topics. Is there a similat site to GLP in Spain? You could meet local conspiracy theorists there.
 Quoting: Spikegirl

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Re: I hate to say it.... but I no longer have much in common with my friends
most people prefer to lay on a pile of comfortable pillows and call it a bed than lay in a uncomfortable bed, if you try to tell these people they're not laying on beds, at risk of their comfort they become defenssive and grasp their pillows harder than ever.

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