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HALLIBURTON Explains Exactly What Happened That Caused the Oil Rig Disaster (No Investigation Needed)

 
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^^That's for you, OP

Nice work.
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^^That's for you, OP

Nice work.
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so all your suggesting is that halliburton knew about the possibility of frozen methane being released by the heat of the cement, and were looking at ways of preventing a problem because of it.

sounds like they were doing their job properly to me.
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Remember...Halliburton was there cementing as little as two hours before the explosion.
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You've taken all the fun out of the mystery by solving it with ease.

Thank you but damn, I could have continued piecing things together for days more.

Anyway, thankfully, regardless of how it happened, it's still Doomtastic, and all GLPers can rejoice.
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Haliburton...blind with greed, once again.
No yesterday, no tomorrow.
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they are also real humans working for this company...so pls dont generalized....dont be a ignorant

Ignorance denotes a lack of knowledge and experience
I assure you thats not the case. I have been on wells that kicked and kicked and kicked and kicked, 7 days straight 24 hours a day...fought the wells with 3 mixing shacks and two Davlin tanks..putting down 280,000 lbs of Barite per day for 7 days straight and it still didn't get it..
I laughed and told the engineer we needed to pump cement down and start again....when he looked me dead in the eye and said#
We havent ruled that out...I KNEW we were sitting on time bomb..We put down cellophane, barite , golfballs , sawdust ,Kelzan...EVERY THING we could pump until we could get more Mud...
At one point they thought we had it, and they sent me down to bleed off the stack at the well head...THE ROAR of pressure and fluid that came out of the two inch..sent everyone down to see what the hell I was doing..it peeled the paint off the sub structure and bent the panels of the sub...I closed the valve again and turned around...DEAF..from the noise..the engineer, the push, and the driller were all standing there shitting their pants....I yelled I guess we didnt get it huh?
We did eventually...and had a record gas well and a record bit run all I got was a hat and a paycheque...DONT call me ignorant..I assure you...I have been there and done that
in the industry since 2000 First Line Well Supervisor since 2003
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Holy fuck
Fuck Deadliest Catch
If your industry didn't have such a negative stigma attached to it, you'd be the TV Tough Men that everybody knows about

Roughnecks especially
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so all your suggesting is that halliburton knew about the possibility of frozen methane being released by the heat of the cement, and were looking at ways of preventing a problem because of it.

sounds like they were doing their job properly to me.
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Sounds like they were playing with fire and gas to me.
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so all your suggesting is that halliburton knew about the possibility of frozen methane being released by the heat of the cement, and were looking at ways of preventing a problem because of it.

sounds like they were doing their job properly to me.


Sounds like they were playing with fire and gas to me.
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thats why they spend billions on rigs and drilling deep, just so they can play with their gasses and fires..
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Does anyone know the drilling site# associated with the Horizon rig?

If so...I might be on to something.
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Does anyone know the drilling site# associated with the Horizon rig?

If so...I might be on to something.
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there are 42 rigs, does that help?
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they are also real humans working for this company...so pls dont generalized....dont be a ignorant
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Anybody who works for Halliburton is a traitor. period.
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Does anyone know the drilling site# associated with the Horizon rig?

If so...I might be on to something.



there are 42 rigs, does that help?
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Here is an example: EB-955...just like any jobsite, they are assigned location numbers.

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Halliburton isn't criminally negligent. they are criminally intentioned.

They were just as likely paid a couple billion. Or promiseed a piece of the New World Order, if they would do this one tiny little thing.

Just two days before the blow, a boat load of Feds made an unusual and surprise inspection of the facility.

You don't think this is all being done in tandem? This is the Nazi Machine doing its dirty work. They even left their characteristic signature...numbers: the worst spill in the history of the Planet occurred on Earth Day.

Helloooo!
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This thread is not getting the views it deserves...I tweaked the title a bit but if anyone has any suggestions...I would be glad to entertain them.
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what has caused undeniable explanation of event at the wellhead. now i just want them to seal it tar spikes solid long metal cylinders feed down the drill pipe like a pack of dried spagetti encased with tar pitch holding the system and pound it down to a seal.now we really have to think out of the box,the world is very much in danger.
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There is the possibility of industrial sabatage, maybe a competetor put out a contract on BP with Dick....


Someone wanna post that Cheney emoticon for me?
LMFAO!
Fuck British petroleum, this is Shell's deep water reserves....
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They have been down there looking for these gas hydrates for a while now, several GULF sites were rendered too dangerous for exploration due to the high pressure of these gases...looks like they found one.

Here is some good reading on the subject...they are not telling us everything.

[link to gomhydratejip.ucsd.edu]

[link to www.netl.doe.gov]
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Dick Cheney+Halliburtin=911 + war on terra/ new world odor...

Haliburton is known as the most powerful company in the oil business, and theyve got their fingers in everones pies....CHeney is a slimey, crooked bastard, my bet is he is behind it and the goal is as usual, multifacted and complicates.
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They have been down there looking for these gas hydrates for a while now, several GULF sites were rendered too dangerous for exploration due to the high pressure of these gases...looks like they found one.

Here is some good reading on the subject...they are not telling us everything.

[link to gomhydratejip.ucsd.edu]

[link to www.netl.doe.gov]
 Quoting: 2cents

Yeah, you know I think they tried to drill through a methane hydrate deposit at the oceans bottom, intentionally.
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They have been down there looking for these gas hydrates for a while now, several GULF sites were rendered too dangerous for exploration due to the high pressure of these gases...looks like they found one.

Here is some good reading on the subject...they are not telling us everything.

[link to gomhydratejip.ucsd.edu]

[link to www.netl.doe.gov]

Yeah, you know I think they tried to drill through a methane hydrate deposit at the oceans bottom, intentionally.
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Agreed...I think it was an experimental drilling site that went horribly wrong...they gambled and lost.
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There is the possibility of industrial sabatage, maybe a competetor put out a contract on BP with Dick....


Someone wanna post that Cheney emoticon for me?
LMFAO!
Fuck British petroleum, this is Shell's deep water reserves....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 964015


OK !


dick
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Whatever happens Id like to see the oil companies pay for all of the damages, if they all payed for the damages they do to the enviroment, the oil industry wouldnt be nearly as profitable as it is...
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Whatever happens Id like to see the oil companies pay for all of the damages, if they all payed for the damages they do to the enviroment, the oil industry wouldnt be nearly as profitable as it is...
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no amount of money can pay for this kind of thing
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Does anyone know the drilling site# associated with the Horizon rig?

If so...I might be on to something.
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found it now

its called ' Lease 206 '
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Does anyone know the drilling site# associated with the Horizon rig?

If so...I might be on to something.



found it now

its called ' Lease 206 '
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Thanks, but I think that is the area...not the site.
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This wiki page says who is being sued
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I don't think this explains the facts.

This is about challenges of sealing the wellhead to the ocean floor.

That's not where the leak is. The BOP failed. But yeah it could have failed due to interior build up of hydrates.

My point: This is NOT a definitive answer.
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Ill bank 10 to one odds that the hydrates caused the BOP failure and that BP knew the danger. I personally think hydrocarbons are leaking from around the wellhead, and not all of it through the failed BOP's, and if this is true there is little that can be done other than pray it spontaneously stops. I think they drilled through a hydrate formation to get at oil underneath it and the hydrate was melted by the heat of the oil flowing through the well. If this is true , then they have two problems, a methane hydrate leak and an oil leak. This is what I think happened.Nature is self limiting, but its not natural to have a hole cleared from the surface to three miles down, its just that simple. They knew the danger, this I know for certain..
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[link to oilprice.com]


The Cover-up: BP's Crude Politics and the Looming Environmental Mega-Disaster
Written by Wayne Madsen
WMR has been informed by sources in the US Army Corps of Engineers, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and Florida Department of Environmental Protection that the Obama White House and British Petroleum (BP), which pumped $71,000 into Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign -- more than John McCain or Hillary Clinton, are covering up the magnitude of the volcanic-level oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico and working together to limit BP's liability for damage caused by what can be called a "mega-disaster."

Obama and his senior White House staff, as well as Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, are working with BP's chief executive officer Tony Hayward on legislation that would raise the cap on liability for damage claims from those affected by the oil disaster from $75 million to $10 billion. However, WMR's federal and Gulf state sources are reporting the disaster has the real potential cost of at least $1 trillion. Critics of the deal being worked out between Obama and Hayward point out that $10 billion is a mere drop in the bucket for a trillion dollar disaster but also note that BP, if its assets were nationalized, could fetch almost a trillion dollars for compensation purposes. There is talk in some government circles, including FEMA, of the need to nationalize BP in order to compensate those who will ultimately be affected by the worst oil disaster in the history of the world.

Plans by BP to sink a 4-story containment dome over the oil gushing from a gaping chasm one kilometer below the surface of the Gulf, where the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded and killed 11 workers on April 20, and reports that one of the leaks has been contained is pure public relations disinformation designed to avoid panic and demands for greater action by the Obama administration, according to FEMA and Corps of Engineers sources. Sources within these agencies say the White House has been resisting releasing any "damaging information" about the oil disaster. They add that if the ocean oil geyser is not stopped within 90 days, there will be irreversible damage to the marine eco-systems of the Gulf of Mexico, north Atlantic Ocean, and beyond. At best, some Corps of Engineers experts say it could take two years to cement the chasm on the floor of the Gulf.

Only after the magnitude of the disaster became evident did Obama order Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano to declare the oil disaster a "national security issue." Although the Coast Guard and FEMA are part of her department, Napolitano's actual reasoning for invoking national security was to block media coverage of the immensity of the disaster that is unfolding for the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic Ocean and their coastlines.

From the Corps of Engineers, FEMA, the Environmental Protection Agency, Coast Guard, and Gulf state environmental protection agencies, the message is the same: "we've never dealt with anything like this before."

The Obama administration also conspired with BP to fudge the extent of the oil leak, according to our federal and state sources. After the oil rig exploded and sank, the government stated that 42,000 gallons per day was gushing from the seabed chasm. Five days later, the federal government upped the leakage to 210,000 gallons a day.

However, WMR has been informed that submersibles that are monitoring the escaping oil from the Gulf seabed are viewing television pictures of what is a "volcanic-like" eruption of oil. Moreover, when the Army Corps of Engineers first attempted to obtain NASA imagery of the Gulf oil slick -- which is larger than that being reported by the media -- it was turned down. However, National Geographic managed to obtain the satellite imagery shots of the extent of the disaster and posted them on their web site.

There is other satellite imagery being withheld by the Obama administration that shows what lies under the gaping chasm spewing oil at an ever-alarming rate is a cavern estimated to be around the size of Mount Everest. This information has been given an almost national security-level classification to keep it from the public, according to our sources.

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The Corps and Engineers and FEMA are quietly critical of the lack of support for quick action after the oil disaster by the Obama White House and the US Coast Guard. Only recently, has the Coast Guard understood the magnitude of the disaster, dispatching nearly 70 vessels to the affected area. WMR has also learned that inspections of off-shore rigs' shut-off valves by the Minerals Management Service during the Bush administration were merely rubber-stamp operations, resulting from criminal collusion between Halliburton and the Interior Department's service, and that the potential for similar disasters exists with the other 30,000 off-shore rigs that use the same shut-off valves.

The impact of the disaster became known to the Corps of Engineers and FEMA even before the White House began to take the magnitude of the impending catastrophe seriously. The first casualty of the disaster is the seafood industy, with not just fishermen, oystermen, crabbers, and shrimpers losing their jobs, but all those involved in the restaurant industry, from truckers to waitresses, facing lay-offs.

The invasion of crude oil into estuaries like the oyster-rich Apalachicola Bay in Florida spell disaster for the seafood industry. However, the biggest threat is to Florida's Everglades, which federal and state experts fear will be turned into a "dead zone" if the oil continues to gush forth from the Gulf chasm. There are also expectations that the oil slick will be caught up in the Gulf stream off the eastern seaboard of the United States, fouling beaches and estuaries like the Chesapeake Bay, and ultimately target the rich fishing grounds of the Grand Banks off Newfoundland.

WMR has also learned that 36 urban areas on the Gulf of Mexico are expecting to be confronted with a major disaster from the oil volcano in the next few days. Although protective water surface boons are being laid to protect such sensitive areas as Alabama's Dauphin Island, the mouth of the Mississippi River, and Florida's Apalachicola Bay, Florida, there is only 16 miles of boons available for the protection of 2,276 miles of tidal shoreline in the state of Florida.

Emergency preparations in dealing with the expanding oil menace are now being made for cities and towns from Corpus Christi, Texas, to Houston, New Orleans, Gulfport, Mobile, Pensacola, Tampa-St.Petersburg-Clearwater, Sarasota-Bradenton, Naples, and Key West. Some 36 FEMA-funded contracts between cities, towns, and counties and emergency workers are due to be invoked within days, if not hours, according to WMR's FEMA sources.

There are plans to evacuate people with respiratory problems, especially those among the retired senior population along the west coast of Florida, before officials begin burning surface oil as it begins to near the coastline.

There is another major threat looming for inland towns and cities. With hurricane season in effect, there is a potential for ocean oil to be picked up by hurricane-driven rains and dropped into fresh water lakes and rivers, far from the ocean, thus adding to the pollution of water supplies and eco-systems.

This story contributed by the Wayne Madsen Report for Oilprice.com
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Copy the file for posterity..and screenshot the webpage..because LEGAL will have that page down stat
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No they won't. The info presented by Halliburton (in the OP's piece) is long-standing industry knowledge.

They knew, BP knew and Transocean knew, and everyone in the industry knows they all knew.

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