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Now That The Big Box Has "Unofficially" Failed, How Soon Till The Russian Solution Is Employed?

 
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if they nuke the leak, all the trapped methyl hydrates will explode in flames, burning most of the north american continent.


A tactical nuke could be strategically placed right on top of the well head to "cave in", compress, or compact the well.

We know the methane is deep in the 8,000 to 30,000 foot range. If the nuke is placed right over the top so the downward force can compact the area around the well, the sealing would take place above the 8,000 foot level.
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DO we???

'Cuz it occurs to me that all life in the sea would sort of fucking BELLY UP from radioactive fallout if we did...



Can the inevitable sea life dead-zone that will be created by the spill be localized?

The 3-month spread projections are eye-opening.


Sea life will perish on a massive scale.

Will we allow the spill to become a global disaster?


Will we allow sea life to perish on a global scale?
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It is leaking Methane Gas

They will not even consider explosives of any kind...

KABOOM!!!!!
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It was recommended that Bikini Island should not be permanently resettled under the present radiological conditions. This recommendation was based on the assumption that persons resettling on the island would consume a diet of entirely locally produced food. The radiological data support that if a diet of this type were permitted, it could lead to an annual effective dose of about 15 mSv. This level was judged to require intervention of some type for radiation protection purposes.
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I'd suggest to bring some zetas, lightworkers and Fulfords Ninjas into action.
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Lol I vote for this one honestly it makes more sense than anything BP has come up with so far

or the russian... I mean a nuke? what the fuck! wtf
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A nuke would be a really stupid thing to do

Let's face it folks. There's no way to stop this leak. We got ourselves into this shit by allowing big corps to influence our opinions and ignore the environment. At one time off-shore drilling would have been a big no to lots of people. Not anymore - it seems like the minute anyone discusses harm to the environment the immediate responses revolve around conspiracy theories that claim these concerns over the environment are meant to undermine the West's productivity, which beside the fact they are stupid are simply untrue as the accident shows.

We have to stop spewing bullshit and stop big corps from fucking the environment. The guys at BP should be brought to trial, and offshore drilling banned. The whole company should be nationalized or forced into liquidation as punishment, and revenue from that should be used to clean up the oil from the ocean by sucking it out or something. The point is to leave the well alone and simply suffer the consequences in silence, because that would be a lot better than trying to nuke the fuck out of a frozen and highly pressurized methane bed. We're not really that smart. This is out of our hands and abilities, period.
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probably the next one will fail, the oil is spreading rapidly, something has to be done and the best scientists from around the world have to collaborate on this delicate and timely issue of ecological importance.
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The people of the world will not allow this to spread.
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====WHAT WE ARE WE GONNA DO ? MEET AT THE WORLDS COASTLINES ..JOIN HANDS AND BLOCK THE OIL WITH our BODIES ??? HEY THATS A GOOD IDEA --MEET YA THERE [bring lots of towels]
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The people of the world will not allow this to spread.


Yeah? What are "the people of the world" going to do about it?

We haven't been able to stop anything else of note, not recently anyway. Not climate change, not Monsanto, not Enron, not 9/11, not the erosion of our liberties, not the poisoning of our water, not the theft of our commons or the destruction of our heritage.

The corporations OWN our government. Both parties, lock stock and barrel. If there were true justice Dick Cheney, George Bush, and many, many others would have been executed for treason long ago.

Nope. It's too late. Even if we all engaged in a violent uprising -- and TPTB have made certain that we are all much too divided ever to do this -- we'd still be outarmed by a factor of millions and they would slaughter us ruthlessly.

We are screwed. All we can do at this point is make peace with the Divine and choose how we want to go down.
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alright alright alright ! ! !.. stop whining.. I SHALL RAISE MY MIGHTY HAND NUDGE THE PLATE -CLOSE THE HOLE..now get back to you writings of DOOMAGE - you guys crack me up.
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What the hell dont you understand??

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Here is "Korean Solution"

Give some food to North Korea then they will gladly help you.

They might pile up their own people around oil gushing hole
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why is the north and south so divided and bitter?. you guys are the same ppl!
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For all you idiots eager to blame the oil industry, remmeber, it is you who is creating the demand for oil. If you REALLY want to put the oil companies out of business, dont buy anything made from oil. BTW, that means you'll have to live like Fred Flintstone.


YABBA DABBA DOOOOOO!!!!!!1
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that is a good solution-

they can take diesel submarines and drive them into the abyss

asians and muslims like suicide kamakazi stuff anyway

tell the koreans that there is a 22 year old white female reporter down there and they will drive 50 subs to the location-

and they can have muslim allies- tell them that allah and mohamad made a big Vagina in the sea and they will all swim there
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you guys are the same ppl!

[referring to Korean hate between North and South]



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.......hey shmuck .....you know very well less than nothing .....
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OY VEY !?? A KOREAN JEW !
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Nobody seems to understand the full implications of this.In the short term it will bring chaos and martial law to the Gulf states very soon as the coasts become unlivable.International shipping through the Gulf into the Mississippi will be completely stopped (oil fouls the propellers)The American economy will go into a tailspin,
probably sending us into a full bore depression.In the long term it means a extinction event for Mankind.
The question is how long will it be before the rest of the planet decides to bypass the US government and BP and demands and implements a solution.As it stands right now if it were shut off today, it is estimated we are looking at a 10 year clean up.
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The Nuclear option is dangerous and here is why.

We all know the casual dangers...tsunamis, earthquakes, radiation, ect.

But the really big danger is,

The nuclear explosion heating methane hydrate underground. Just a fraction of a degree more at the boundry layer and hundreds of thousands of tons of methane hydrate will turn to gas rapidly. With a pressure difference of 60/1, the additional pressure may cause a runaway heating with deeper methane hydrate causing even more gas, creating more heat, creating more pressure until the earths crust can't hold it anymore.

The Earths crust will rupture releasing billions of tons of methane gas. Enough to create an explosion bigger then mankind has ever seen. Enough gas to rapidly warm the planet beyond safe levels.

CO2 gas will also run rampart and animal life will get weak while plant life thrives.

Cloud cover will increase and so will rain fall amounts.


It will be a royaly large fuck up. They can NOT detonate a nuke or it will spell the end for nearly all of us!
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Sounds rather prophetic and biblical, in an eerie sort of way, doesn't it? Sounds like the re-creation of the Garden of Eden when all is said and done...
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what is THE RUSSIAN SOLUTION?

Hire a gang or KGB thugs to kidnap it? (the spill)
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The Nuclear option is dangerous and here is why.

We all know the casual dangers...tsunamis, earthquakes, radiation, ect.

But the really big danger is,

The nuclear explosion heating methane hydrate underground. Just a fraction of a degree more at the boundry layer and hundreds of thousands of tons of methane hydrate will turn to gas rapidly. With a pressure difference of 60/1, the additional pressure may cause a runaway heating with deeper methane hydrate causing even more gas, creating more heat, creating more pressure until the earths crust can't hold it anymore.

The Earths crust will rupture releasing billions of tons of methane gas. Enough to create an explosion bigger then mankind has ever seen. Enough gas to rapidly warm the planet beyond safe levels.

CO2 gas will also run rampart and animal life will get weak while plant life thrives.

Cloud cover will increase and so will rain fall amounts.

It will be a royaly large fuck up. They can NOT detonate a nuke or it will spell the end for nearly all of us!
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BP said they are going to try what is called a "JUNK SHOT." That is where you inject ground up tires directly into the Wellhead to pulg it. Rig is on site.
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That is like trying to plug a pressure washer with feathers.

How the hell are they going to get IN the well to begin with?

So now we'll have floating bits of tires through out the gulf too.

Has anyone considered those tire bits might damage clean up equipment on the surface?

Jeese, the ideas being put forth just get dumber and dumber.
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What about a sort of expansion bolt. Go in thru a side hole, push it all the way into the reservoir of oil and methane, but with the base still in the hole, then let it expand back over the hole?

It's a bit of a trick to have it expand to cover the hole all the way round, but I suppose they could manage it, if they can get the "expansion bolt" down in there at all.
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Might start ww111 if they do get a handle on this and oil heads around the world...


ww111 is at least a thousand years away
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Well I guess WW111 is a thousand years away but we are concerned with WWIII???
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

That is the second option
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probably the next one will fail, the oil is spreading rapidly, something has to be done and the best scientists from around the world have to collaborate on this delicate and timely issue of ecological importance.
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alright alright alright ! ! !.. stop whining.. I SHALL RAISE MY MIGHTY HAND NUDGE THE PLATE -CLOSE THE HOLE..now get back to you writings of DOOMAGE - you guys crack me up.


What the hell dont you understand??


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alright alright alright ! ! !.. stop whining.. I SHALL RAISE MY MIGHTY HAND NUDGE THE PLATE -CLOSE THE HOLE..now get back to you writings of DOOMAGE - you guys crack me up.


What the hell dont you understand??




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YOUR LACK OF A SENSE OF HUMOR ..AND YOUR LACK OF FAITH
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Lack of faith is from thinking about this rationally..

This is horrible, they dont know how to stop it...

It is impossible to possibly be drilling when a "metal on metal spark, could ignite a fire"..

Not to mention they tapped into Methane Gas, why would a second drilling unit do any better than this one..

I have a sens of humor, but all the people on here saying this is nothing, dont worry, fuck sealife, blah, blah blah is getting old...

This is very serious and potentially devastating worldwide..
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alright alright alright ! ! !.. stop whining.. I SHALL RAISE MY MIGHTY HAND NUDGE THE PLATE -CLOSE THE HOLE..now get back to you writings of DOOMAGE - you guys crack me up.


What the hell dont you understand??




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Lack of faith is from thinking about this rationally..

This is horrible, they dont know how to stop it...

It is impossible to possibly be drilling when a "metal on metal spark, could ignite a fire"..

Not to mention they tapped into Methane Gas, why would a second drilling unit do any better than this one..

I have a sens of humor, but all the people on here saying this is nothing, dont worry, fuck sealife, blah, blah blah is getting old...

This is very serious and potentially devastating worldwide..
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Million gallons of oil a day gush into Gulf of Mexico
[link to www.independent.co.uk]

Word also came yesterday that the oil spill may be five times worse than previously thought. Ian MacDonald, a biological oceanographer at Florida State University, said he believed, after studying Nasa data, that about one million gallons a day were leeching into the sea, and that the volume discharged may have already exceeded the 11 million gallons of the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster, widely regarded as the world's worst marine pollution incident.

20 Days, 20 Million Gallons, the size of Florida now.



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Imagine the above projection adjusted for inflation.

We don't have 3 months.
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alright alright alright ! ! !.. stop whining.. I SHALL RAISE MY MIGHTY HAND NUDGE THE PLATE -CLOSE THE HOLE..now get back to you writings of DOOMAGE - you guys crack me up.


What the hell dont you understand??




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Lack of faith is from thinking about this rationally..

This is horrible, they dont know how to stop it...

It is impossible to possibly be drilling when a "metal on metal spark, could ignite a fire"..

Not to mention they tapped into Methane Gas, why would a second drilling unit do any better than this one..

I have a sens of humor, but all the people on here saying this is nothing, dont worry, fuck sealife, blah, blah blah is getting old...

This is very serious and potentially devastating worldwide..
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Will The Gulf Of Mexico Oil Spill Be An Economic Disaster That The Gulf Coast Will Never Recover From?
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As a silent blanket of black goo that is now about the size of the state of Florida slowly but relentlessly drifts towards the Gulf Coast, communities in the region are bracing for an economic catastrophe that is being described as a "slow motion Katrina". Still reeling from the effects of Hurricane Katrina after all these years, many who depend on the Gulf of Mexico for their livelihood fear that the massive oil spill heading their way could prove to be an economic disaster from which they will never recover.

Thousands of businesses in the region could go under before all of this is over, and millions could lose their jobs. As the gigantic mass of black oil kills and maims all the wildlife it encounters, and as it pushes dangerously close to the coastal wetlands, many residents are predicting that two of the most important industries in the region - seafood and tourism - will be completely and totally destroyed.

Already, the edges of the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico have grazed the barrier islands off Louisiana's Chandeleur and Breton sounds. BP spokeswoman Ayana McIntosh-Lee announced on Monday that the damaged well is releasing 210,000 gallons of oil a day into the Gulf of Mexico. At this point there is no end in sight.

In fact, the oil spill in the Gulf Of Mexico is now larger than the entire state of Florida, and each day it grows larger and more insidious.

Scientists in the region tell us that the Gulf oil spill could actually get into what's called the "Loop Current" within a day, eventually carrying oil south along the Florida coast and into the Florida Keys. In fact, one prominent oceanographer says that he cannot think of any scenario where the oil spill doesn't eventually reach the Florida Keys.

And there are indications that things could get a whole lot worse before they get better.

It is being reported that a confidential government report on the oil spill in the Gulf makes it clear that the Coast Guard now fears that the damaged well could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. One Alabama newspaper has posted excerpts from this alarming report....

"The following is not public," reads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Emergency Response document dated April 28th that was posted on . "Two additional release points were found today in the tangled riser. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."


How bad could it get?

Well, if the riser pipe blows out, experts tell us that we could see 5 to 10 times as much oil flowing into the Gulf as we are now.

That would be a nightmare of Biblical proportions.

Not that we aren't facing a complete and total nightmare already.

Both Obama administration and BP are indicating that it might take up to three months to completely seal off the leaking oil well.

3 more months of oil flowing into the Gulf?

How in the world could the Gulf Coast ever recover from that?

And once the oil spill gets into the wetlands along the coast it will never, ever be able to be totally cleaned up.

Already, environmentalists are warning that the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico could absolutely devastate the bird population of the region.

You see, nearly 75 percent of all U.S. waterfowl use Louisiana's three million acres of wetlands to rest or nest. Once the oil spill gets into those wetlands it is over for those waterfowl.

Not only that, but Louisiana produces more fish and seafood than anywhere in the United States except for Alaska. The cost of this disaster to the fishing industry in Louisiana alone could top 3 billion dollars, and it is being projected that the tourism industry in Florida could lose even more than that.

In fact, some local shrimpers in the region are gloomily forecasting that it will be seven years before they can set to sea again.

Are you starting to get the picture?

Entire industries are going to be wiped out by this thing.

In economic terms, this is far bigger than Katrina.

What we are witnessing is the potential economic death of an entire region.

To get an idea of just what kind of a nightmare the residents of the Gulf Coast are facing, just read some of the quotes that have been popping up in mainstream media sources over the last couple of days....

The Telegraph:

"Worst case scenarios almost never happen," Professor Robert Thomas, of New Orleans' Loyola University, was quoted as saying yesterday. "In this case, almost everyone I have known with technical knowledge of oil spills – people who have worked in the industry 30, 40 years – say it is upon us."

Louis Miller of the Mississippi Sierra Club:

This is going to destroy the Mississippi and the Gulf Coast as we know it.

The Los Angeles Times:

"A major oil spill would devastate the ecosystem and the economy based on that ecosystem," said Larry Crowder, professor of marine biology at Duke University's Nicholas School of the Environment. "It's a particularly bad time of year because just about everything is nesting or replicating.

"In the Gulf of Mexico giant blue fin tuna are spawning, and their eggs and larvae float on the surface," he said. "Seabirds and gulls are nesting. For nesting sea turtles, obviously, oiling the beaches could have a devastating impact."
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