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By October 3, 2010...If they cant stop this leak.....

 
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Re: By October 3, 2010...If they cant stop this leak.....
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A nuke would not be a good idea with a methane leak...

KABOOOOM

That is a possibility. That is why I suggested in bedrock beneath the sea floor by many thousands of feet.
Away from both the sea floor and the oil field.

Any source of methane inside the detonation would not matter....vaporized
However...could a methane explosion travel downward thru the drill hole...doubtful

Methane: As a gas it is flammable only over a narrow range of concentrations (5–15%) in air. Liquid methane does not burn unless subjected to high pressure (normally 4–5 atmospheres).

The pressure is already pretty substantial and I don't think a nuke is going to lessen it any...
 Quoting: tungfumastR NLI 519387

someone please explain how this Russian nuke extinguished (the opposite of ignited) this 3 year methane torch?
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I've been hearing a lot about the use of hay. Does anyone have any idea on how that would work?




Someone said calculations were done for this solution. The number I heard was three years worth of hay grown just to clean up the oil already spilled. All of that would be needed at one time.

It works but we just don't have enough. Perhaps if the world pitched in.


There are tons of hay bales down here. :) Thanks for explaining.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth



Yeah. We need more!


It would still be a good clean up tool but you know how effective our government is at doing.... anything.
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Risky manuever because if it fails, it'll fail spectacularly with a giant hole pouring out oil, instead of a broken pipe leaking oil
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Make that pouring radioactive oil....

*crap, there I go responding to six pages ago...

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Game over, man! Game over!

That is all.
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Game over, man! Game over!

That is all.
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Engineers don't give up
Politicians never let a good crisis go to waste
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In order to contain the spill, we must think in terms of rerouting, rather than plugging. If people would stop panicking they would see this is doable. You simply have to re-direct the oil to waiting tankers. The capacity of a large tanker makes it perfectly feasable to capture the oil.
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Re: By October 3, 2010...If they cant stop this leak.....
I've been hearing a lot about the use of hay. Does anyone have any idea on how that would work?




Someone said calculations were done for this solution. The number I heard was three years worth of hay grown just to clean up the oil already spilled. All of that would be needed at one time.

It works but we just don't have enough. Perhaps if the world pitched in.


There are tons of hay bales down here. :) Thanks for explaining.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth
outside the box


gigantic containment; shipping containers chianlinked
together forming walls and sunk; florida to mexico.
Despersants balled the crap up,so now its hug globs
stratifing; it's got to be a wall. STart now!!
may take twenty years to finish, another 30 years for clean up. Energy should not be a problem. Lotsa oil sans dispersant. outside the box
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Re: By October 3, 2010...If they cant stop this leak.....
I've been hearing a lot about the use of hay. Does anyone have any idea on how that would work?




Someone said calculations were done for this solution. The number I heard was three years worth of hay grown just to clean up the oil already spilled. All of that would be needed at one time.

It works but we just don't have enough. Perhaps if the world pitched in.


There are tons of hay bales down here. :) Thanks for explaining.
outside the box


gigantic containment; shipping containers chianlinked
together forming walls and sunk; florida to mexico.
Despersants balled the crap up,so now its hug globs
stratifing; it's got to be a wall. STart now!!
may take twenty years to finish, another 30 years for clean up. Energy should not be a problem. Lotsa oil sans dispersant. outside the box
 Quoting: oneZeno 954980



betr idea build the wall around the site, 100 metre round
a mile long, in a spiral, control the filling of eack container and buildit as in sinks.

20 days

outside the box
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Re: By October 3, 2010...If they cant stop this leak.....
The entire Gulf of Mexico will be covered in crude.

sad

I have an idea....probably crazy but....
A small intense long burn thermonuclear device detonated in the bedrock in a hole drilled parallel and close to the original shaft.
This may be enough to melt bedrock to magma and re-harden just long enough to seal this sucker off. The initial blast wave would push both upward and downward on the existing shaft.....what possible side effects could this have?

Previous devices tested in this fashion created a hollow area with smooth sealed walls....

Or am I out in left field here...
 Quoting: RememberThis


Sounds good, unless it sets off the New Madrid fault = FAIL!
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This spill could have easily been dealt with and the effects could still be dealt with now read the link. Super tankers could easilly capture the volume of oil being released, they arn't there, why?

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