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Anonymous Coward User ID: 982938 United States 05/29/2010 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About 25,000 psi pressure in your sewer pipe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985206I'm not an engineer, but I pretend to be one at work. When we have a sewer pipe that is collapsing, and we can not dig it up do to location, we sleeve the pipe with a smaller pipe. Put an expandable rubber gasket around the second smaller pipe. Presto, new pipe without a whole in it. Am I missing something here? the pressure won't matter, the other end of the picould still be left open, connected to a flexible pipe, dumping into a freighter |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 822475 Canada 05/29/2010 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About 25,000 psi pressure in your sewer pipe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982938I'm not an engineer, but I pretend to be one at work. When we have a sewer pipe that is collapsing, and we can not dig it up do to location, we sleeve the pipe with a smaller pipe. Put an expandable rubber gasket around the second smaller pipe. Presto, new pipe without a whole in it. Am I missing something here? the pressure won't matter, the other end of the picould still be left open, connected to a flexible pipe, dumping into a freighter Connect to what?...broken, bent collapsing pipes and a BOP that is on its way out... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 982938 United States 05/29/2010 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not an engineer, but I pretend to be one at work. When we have a sewer pipe that is collapsing, and we can not dig it up do to location, we sleeve the pipe with a smaller pipe. Put an expandable rubber gasket around the second smaller pipe. Presto, new pipe without a whole in it. Am I missing something here? Quoting: RememberThis1 mile of water, tons of pressure, a fk'd BOP, and freezing conditions in a hostile environment. Scariest Environment Imaginable yep well it has a robotic operating camara that still moves, why not a robotic arm to insert the sleeve pipe? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 822475 Canada 05/29/2010 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not an engineer, but I pretend to be one at work. When we have a sewer pipe that is collapsing, and we can not dig it up do to location, we sleeve the pipe with a smaller pipe. Put an expandable rubber gasket around the second smaller pipe. Presto, new pipe without a whole in it. Am I missing something here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9829381 mile of water, tons of pressure, a fk'd BOP, and freezing conditions in a hostile environment. Scariest Environment Imaginable yep well it has a robotic operating camara that still moves, why not a robotic arm to insert the sleeve pipe? The pressure would send it....tumbling, to say the least |
103010 User ID: 757124 United States 05/29/2010 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This HAS to be stopped somehow, someway and soon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981808Oil covered water........doesnt evaporate, the climatic consequences are quite frankly....unthinkable. No evaporation = no more rain = desertafication Thats the least of our problems. If the oil actually covers enough water to create desertification, we'd all suffocate to death. Plankton = HALF our oxygen creation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 822475 Canada 05/29/2010 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This HAS to be stopped somehow, someway and soon. Quoting: 103010Oil covered water........doesnt evaporate, the climatic consequences are quite frankly....unthinkable. No evaporation = no more rain = desertafication Thats the least of our problems. If the oil actually covers enough water to create desertification, we'd all suffocate to death. Plankton = HALF our oxygen creation. Now yall are getting the picture...... |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 05/29/2010 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This HAS to be stopped somehow, someway and soon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981808Oil covered water........doesnt evaporate, the climatic consequences are quite frankly....unthinkable. No evaporation = no more rain = desertafication And more heat in the Gulf waters to intensify hurricanes. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 982938 United States 05/29/2010 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About 25,000 psi pressure in your sewer pipe. Quoting: RememberThisI'm not an engineer, but I pretend to be one at work. When we have a sewer pipe that is collapsing, and we can not dig it up do to location, we sleeve the pipe with a smaller pipe. Put an expandable rubber gasket around the second smaller pipe. Presto, new pipe without a whole in it. Am I missing something here? the pressure won't matter, the other end of the picould still be left open, connected to a flexible pipe, dumping into a freighter Connect to what?...broken, bent collapsing pipes and a BOP that is on its way out... If the well pipe is broke completely off at the ocean floor, insert a large section of straight pipe that is 1 diameter smaller. Do this with some sort of robotic arm. The outside of the sleeve pipe would be covered with an expandable rubber gasket. The other end of this pipe will already have a flexible pipe connected to it (yes I realize it would be a mile long), travelling to the surface and dumping into a freighter. Just a thought, I would be tring anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 914422 United States 05/29/2010 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About 25,000 psi pressure in your sewer pipe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982938I'm not an engineer, but I pretend to be one at work. When we have a sewer pipe that is collapsing, and we can not dig it up do to location, we sleeve the pipe with a smaller pipe. Put an expandable rubber gasket around the second smaller pipe. Presto, new pipe without a whole in it. Am I missing something here? the pressure won't matter, the other end of the picould still be left open, connected to a flexible pipe, dumping into a freighter Connect to what?...broken, bent collapsing pipes and a BOP that is on its way out... If the well pipe is broke completely off at the ocean floor, insert a large section of straight pipe that is 1 diameter smaller. Do this with some sort of robotic arm. The outside of the sleeve pipe would be covered with an expandable rubber gasket. The other end of this pipe will already have a flexible pipe connected to it (yes I realize it would be a mile long), travelling to the surface and dumping into a freighter. Just a thought, I would be tring anything. This is what I thought. Put a smaller pipe into the old one, at the source. Bypass the BOP and all the crap that is leaking. An expandable gasket. This just seems obvious. |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 05/29/2010 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This HAS to be stopped somehow, someway and soon. Quoting: RememberThisOil covered water........doesnt evaporate, the climatic consequences are quite frankly....unthinkable. No evaporation = no more rain = desertafication Thats the least of our problems. If the oil actually covers enough water to create desertification, we'd all suffocate to death. Plankton = HALF our oxygen creation. Now yall are getting the picture...... Most of us have had the picture for some time now. There are still a few that think this only causes the price of seafood to rise. Unfortunately, one of those who fully appears to think this way just happens to be POTUS. Airlifts for Haiti. Zilch for our own Gulf Coast. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 982938 United States 05/29/2010 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About 25,000 psi pressure in your sewer pipe. Quoting: Plagued_SoulsI'm not an engineer, but I pretend to be one at work. When we have a sewer pipe that is collapsing, and we can not dig it up do to location, we sleeve the pipe with a smaller pipe. Put an expandable rubber gasket around the second smaller pipe. Presto, new pipe without a whole in it. Am I missing something here? the pressure won't matter, the other end of the picould still be left open, connected to a flexible pipe, dumping into a freighter Connect to what?...broken, bent collapsing pipes and a BOP that is on its way out... If the well pipe is broke completely off at the ocean floor, insert a large section of straight pipe that is 1 diameter smaller. Do this with some sort of robotic arm. The outside of the sleeve pipe would be covered with an expandable rubber gasket. The other end of this pipe will already have a flexible pipe connected to it (yes I realize it would be a mile long), travelling to the surface and dumping into a freighter. Just a thought, I would be tring anything. This is what I thought. Put a smaller pipe into the old one, at the source. Bypass the BOP and all the crap that is leaking. An expandable gasket. This just seems obvious. 4 of us sitting around the office on break days ago. There must be a reason they don't want to stop it???? Or maybe we are wrong or there is something we don't know. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 982938 United States 05/29/2010 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So there are no solutions to this at all??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 876465Like nothing? We put people on the moon and we can't fix this? Something fishy (no pun intended) be carefull with the moon thing. the 5% in the world that do not believe we went there hang out at GLP. sure does smell to people who think all day |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 939950 United States 05/29/2010 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So there are no solutions to this at all??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982938Like nothing? We put people on the moon and we can't fix this? Something fishy (no pun intended) be carefull with the moon thing. the 5% in the world that do not believe we went there hang out at GLP. sure does smell to people who think all day it sure is a long way away .. more than 5000 ft under the ocean thats for sure ... |
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Roxi User ID: 900755 United States 05/29/2010 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if they nuke the sight.....they will collapse the sea floor and then all hell will break loose. Florida most like will sink from the displacement of sea floor material. Quoting: BluebirdNot even....they have thousands of feet of bedrock to work with and a large device is not the answer to this problem...think small And also think New Madrid fault. Where are the other faults in relation to the site of the gusher? I believe there is a major one that runs straight down across the Gulf. Do you guys remember Obama saying we won't recognize this country in five years? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 979830 Australia 05/29/2010 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have an idea....probably crazy but.... Quoting: RememberThisA small intense long burn thermonuclear device detonated in the bedrock in a hole drilled parallel and close to the original shaft. This may be enough to melt bedrock to magma and re-harden just long enough to seal this sucker off. The initial blast wave would push both upward and downward on the existing shaft.....what possible side effects could this have? I had the exact same idea a few days ago But instead of trying to melt the rock and have it reharden. I just wanted the blast to push the surrounding rocks to crush the pipe, which could seal it. But even so, I don't know how long that would stop things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 983829 United States 05/29/2010 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entire Gulf of Mexico will be covered in crude. Quoting: RememberThisI have an idea....probably crazy but.... A small intense long burn thermonuclear device detonated in the bedrock in a hole drilled parallel and close to the original shaft. This may be enough to melt bedrock to magma and re-harden just long enough to seal this sucker off. The initial blast wave would push both upward and downward on the existing shaft.....what possible side effects could this have? Previous devices tested in this fashion created a hollow area with smooth sealed walls.... Or am I out in left field here... this is exactly how russia does it. tomat if you read this,nuggaphat! |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 864252 United States 05/29/2010 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been hearing a lot about the use of hay. Does anyone have any idea on how that would work? So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
tungfumastR NLI User ID: 519387 United States 05/29/2010 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NoNoNoNoNONONONO Quoting: RememberThisA nuke would not be a good idea with a methane leak... KABOOOOM That is a possibility. That is why I suggested in bedrock beneath the sea floor by many thousands of feet. Away from both the sea floor and the oil field. Any source of methane inside the detonation would not matter....vaporized However...could a methane explosion travel downward thru the drill hole...doubtful Methane: As a gas it is flammable only over a narrow range of concentrations (5–15%) in air. Liquid methane does not burn unless subjected to high pressure (normally 4–5 atmospheres). The pressure is already pretty substantial and I don't think a nuke is going to lessen it any... |
103010 User ID: 757124 United States 05/29/2010 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This HAS to be stopped somehow, someway and soon. Quoting: RememberThisOil covered water........doesnt evaporate, the climatic consequences are quite frankly....unthinkable. No evaporation = no more rain = desertafication Thats the least of our problems. If the oil actually covers enough water to create desertification, we'd all suffocate to death. Plankton = HALF our oxygen creation. Now yall are getting the picture...... I've been trying to spread that tidbit for a while. Imagine the planet with only 25% less oxygen created each day. Still not a pretty picture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 973854 United States 05/29/2010 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When mother nature wants to have it's way it is darn tough to stop. Were we able to "stop" the Mt. St. Helen's eruption? NO Have we been able to stop the Icelandic eruption? NO Will we be able to stop Katla if it wants to erupt? NO The nuke option no matter how well planned and thought out is going into territory never even tested before. No nuke explosion has ever been done at those depths ... so we don't know how at those pressure levels it affect the surrounding bedrock. The only tests have been done on underground explosions have been done near the surface .... and I am not sure they ever did a full geological survey of the surrounding areas before/after to see if the rock nearby cracked. I do know that in SOME underground explosions they did have SOME LEAKAGE OF RADIATION ... WHICH MEANS THAT THE ROCK CRACKED!!! and that was rock that wasn't even under the high pressure that exists at depth. A cracked rock formation is a real possibility ... and that would mean that oil would then start leaking not just out of a pipe ... but out of multiple locations over a considerable geographic distance on the ocean floor. No matter how bad this leak is ... a nuke explosion risks making it much much worse. Better to figure out a collection cap system and then be prepared to use it for the next 20 to 30 years. |
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103010 User ID: 757124 United States 05/29/2010 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been hearing a lot about the use of hay. Does anyone have any idea on how that would work? Quoting: TXGal4TruthSomeone said calculations were done for this solution. The number I heard was three years worth of hay grown just to clean up the oil already spilled. All of that would be needed at one time. It works but we just don't have enough. Perhaps if the world pitched in. |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 864252 United States 05/29/2010 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if they nuke the sight.....they will collapse the sea floor and then all hell will break loose. Florida most like will sink from the displacement of sea floor material. Quoting: RoxiNot even....they have thousands of feet of bedrock to work with and a large device is not the answer to this problem...think small And also think New Madrid fault. Where are the other faults in relation to the site of the gusher? I believe there is a major one that runs straight down across the Gulf. Do you guys remember Obama saying we won't recognize this country in five years? I remember something like that. I thought it was Michelle though. So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 864252 United States 05/29/2010 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been hearing a lot about the use of hay. Does anyone have any idea on how that would work? Quoting: 103010Someone said calculations were done for this solution. The number I heard was three years worth of hay grown just to clean up the oil already spilled. All of that would be needed at one time. It works but we just don't have enough. Perhaps if the world pitched in. There are tons of hay bales down here. :) Thanks for explaining. So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 985273 United States 05/29/2010 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the well pipe is broke completely off at the ocean floor, insert a large section of straight pipe that is 1 diameter smaller. Do this with some sort of robotic arm. The outside of the sleeve pipe would be covered with an expandable rubber gasket. The other end of this pipe will already have a flexible pipe connected to it (yes I realize it would be a mile long), travelling to the surface and dumping into a freighter. Just a thought, I would be tring anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982938Something along those lines makes sense. A pipe significantly wider than the width of the leak, placed in say 10' sections and erected straight to the surface for waiting tankers. Simply place half of the circumference of each section first so your not fighting the full pressure from the leak - though the pressure from the leak would quickly ease due to pressure from the deep depth of the ocean - erect like an erector set. Once on the surface attach a large wide collection pan from which the oil can be sucked into tankers. Your basically re-routing a "stream." This is not a difficult problem, and the fact that they arn't doing this indicates this was and is a deliberate act of terror. And for those who whine about how deep it is, and blah blah blah, the laws of physics still apply, there is nothing under the sea that can't be worked around by any team of competent engineers, physicists, and maybe a plumber or two. Think about it, you've got an underwater stream that is taking up a small area that simply needs to be redirected. And a mile aint shit. This could be done, and it could be done fast, and it's not, why? |