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The Great Storm: Solar Tempest of 1859 Revealed
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 06:00 am ET
27 October 2003


A pair of strong solar storms that hit Earth late last week were squalls compared to the torrent of electrons that rained down in the "perfect space storm" of 1859. And sooner or later, experts warn, the Sun will again conspire again send earthlings a truly destructive bout of space weather.
If it happens anytime soon, we won't know exactly what to expect until it's over, and by then some modern communication systems could be like beachfront houses after a hurricane.

In early September in 1859, telegraph wires suddenly shorted out in the United States and Europe, igniting widespread fires. Colorful aurora, normally visible only in polar regions, were seen as far south as Rome and Hawaii.

The event 144 years ago was three times more powerful than the strongest space storm in modern memory, one that cut power to an entire Canadian province in 1989. A new account of the 1859 event, from research led by Bruce Tsurutani of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, details the most powerful onslaught of solar energy in recorded history.

Solar conspiracy

Space storms are created when the Sun erupts, sending charged particles racing outward, an expanding bubble of hot gas called plasma.

In 1859, four crucial events conspired at one moment, Tsurutani told SPACE.com.

"The plasma blob that was ejected from the Sun hit the Earth," he said. That's a relatively routine event. What preceded the strike was more unusual. "The blob came at exceptionally high speeds. It took only 17 hours and 40 minutes to go from the Sun to Earth." Solar storms typically take two to four days to traverse the 93 million miles (150 million kilometers).

"The magnetic fields in the blob, called a coronal mass ejection, were exceptionally intense," Tsurutani said. "And the fourth, most important, ingredient was that the magnetic fields of the blob were opposite in direction from the Earth's fields."

Earth's magnetic field normally protects the surface of the planet from a continual flow of charged particles, called the solar wind, and even does a pretty good job defending against some storms. When a storm swept past Earth last Friday, it met up with magnetic field pointed in such a way that it thwarted the storm's effects. That's not always the case.

In 1859, the planet's defenses were overwhelmed.

That was then

Society back then did not notice the storm the way it would today. The telegraph was 15 years old. There were no satellite TV feeds, no automated teller machines relying on orbiting relay stations, and no power grids.

Tsurutani said scientists can't yet accurately measure or predict what the strength or direction of Earth's magnetic field will be when a storm arrives. The storms themselves can be predicted. And Tsurutani says there will eventually be another one like 1859.

"It could very well be even more intense than what transpired in 1859," he says. "As for when, we simply do not know."

Bernhard Fleck, the European Space Agency's project scientist for the Sun-watching SOHO spacecraft, says the next super space storm will be detectable, but that's only half the story.

"A monster event of the magnitude described [by Tsurutani] we would easily recognize as something extraordinary with SOHO and other solar instruments," Fleck said in an e-mail interview. But, he added, "We certainly wouldn't know its full extent until arrival."

During the 1859 flare-up, solar observers logged almost an entire minute during which the amount of sunlight doubled at the region of the flare.

"Such a strong white-light flare has never been seen since," says Paal Brekke, SOHO deputy project scientist. "So if this type of flare happened, yes we would know right away." But he adds that the orientation of Earth's magnetic field would not be known. Future space-based observatories could address this blind spot in space weather forecasting.

Meanwhile, the blind spot became clear on Friday.

Forecasters at NOAA's Space Environment Center, relying on SOHO pictures and data, warned of an impending set of storms that could disrupt communications and might set off colorful aurora Friday and Saturday. The forecast, along with two Jupiter-sized sunspots at the roots of the storms, gained widespread media attention.

But the first and larger of the storms passed by with far less effect than one might have been led to expect. In fact, they were both comparative drops in the space weather bucket.

Extreme measures

To get an idea of the strength of the 1859 storm, you have to wade into nT's for a moment.

A space storm's impact is measured in nano-Teslas (nT), Brekke explained. The lower the figure, the more powerful the storm. A moderate storm can be around -100 nT; extreme and damaging storms have been logged at around -300 nT.

The 1989 coronal mass ejection that knocked out power to all of Quebec, Canada measured -589 nT, Brekke said. The 1859 perfect storm was estimated to have been -1,760 nT. Brekke used three exclamation points in his e-mail delivering that number.

People on the ground are generally safe even in the worst space weather. But technology could be in trouble when the next super storm hits.

"In 1859, the technology was quite low in comparison to today's technology," Tsurutani said. "However the technology that we rely on today is much more vulnerable."

A strong storm does its damage in part by inducing currents on power and communication lines, leading to potential overloads. Obviously, there are a lot more wires on Earth today, "so one might expect much worse problems if it occurred today."

The charged particles can also zap satellites, as has occurred with handful of storms in recent years -- events with far fewer charged particles than in 1859. A space storm also heats the upper level of Earth's atmosphere, causing it to expand. That's no good for satellites that can get caught up in air that didn't used to be there.

"This can lead to enhanced satellite drag and possible loss of these to the atmosphere," Tsurutani said.

Tsurutani and his colleagues -- Walter Gonzalez of the Brazilian National Space Institute and Gurbax Lakhina and Sobhana Alex of the India Institute of Geomagnetism -- reviewed known observations of the 1859 event's solar and aurora output, plus accounts from the ground. They also used recently rediscovered historic data on Earth's magnetic field from the Colaba Observatory in India.

The findings were published in a recent issue of the Journal of Geophysical Research.


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wasn't this his character an Atheist too? Yeah, he got "left behind" and burned up....wow.

I even I know the "rapture" isn't necessarily biblical but still WOW.

well someone earned some money on this deal , it like WTC insurrance scam all over again

Thread: Rig firm’s $270m profit from Gulf of Mexico deadly Oil spill , at least someone earned some money on this

Well, the next series of numbers on that piece of paper was 42, so watch for a 42...hehe

Weird that a girl was the loan survivor of a plane crash last year, and then the boy survived today.

It doesn't exactly fit what happened in the movie, it just made me think of this thread when I heard the news.

The thread was called something like- A time capsule was opened at my school today, or something close to that.

It was a huge thread and I'm sure many posters remember it.

I'm pretty sure they were data mining to make sure they had all possible angles of the movie covered.

I can't find it now.

The film was already well into production when the GLP thread was created. It had already received the "greenlight."

Thread: Time Capsule opened in my school.What was inside scared me to death...

Alright, here is my Numerology Conspiracy Theory:

The clock hits 12:00 right as the news is playing.

12:00 in military time is 00:00

Thats 4 zeros.

the number 4 = The month of April

Now, just standard clocks...

12:00

Reverse the numbers, and that's the 21st!

But wait, it happened on the 20th, right?

Well, actually it happend on the 21st in GMT time

which is BRITISH time

BRITISH PETROLIUM

u watch Glenn Beck don't u

No, I actually despise the guy...

I don't actually believe in numerology stuff, I just looked at those numbers and that went through my head.. and I saw other people posting some number stuff, so I thought, "Why not? Maybe some people will get a kick out of it."

OK, if we correlate what happens in the movie with actual events, we get :

1) Oil rig incident = Deep Horizon catastrophe
2) Plane crash = Polish plane crash
3) Subway train wreck = Russian subway explosion

This a miror image with chronology in reverse. Using that same logic, the hints for the next major event should be found before the scene where Nicolas Cage is watching the news on TV just around midnight. I recall seeing tigers twice before that scene. Once in a documentary that Caleb is watching in his bedroom and another one just before John (Cage) overfill his glass with scotch. The season depicted during the early scenes of the movie is Fall. Falling leaves everywhere.

Now, 2010 is the chinese year of the Tiger. This is the cover of 30 seconds to Mars latest album :

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I'm thinking WAR in the Fall of 2010.

I think nows the time we call forth this celebrity, he seems down to earth from the rest.. lets ask him ourslelves. our at least study his reactions.. can anyone find an EMAIL?

we will declare ourselves ANONYMOUS. anyone find his myspace or email? it will work.. just need a few of us using big words. hell take the bait.

More coincidence?

i agree. People think the oil spill is bad- wait till beings like this start showing up- or even popping out the ground.... Horrible to imagine- but probably going to happen.. FOOLS if you think we are the only ones inhabiting this massive planet.... get some swords and guns ready...

i think only One...

So,

You guys think that TPTB use movies to presage, or set up, or announce their intentions and coming ops?

How would that work?

There's a lot of witting people in that loop.

TPTB
The writers
The directors
The producers
The money guys
maybe even more - all arranging every jot and tittle to crank out the movie...

Sounds like a hard thing to pull off - and what would the payoff be?

A way more interesting case where there is an eerie similarity of movie and history is the first episode of the Lone Gunmen - Pilot.

In that episode there is a false flag attack on the trade towers in NYC using an airplane to ram into the building... The good guys prevent the fly-by-wire airplane from hitting the building in the show...

As I recall it was a similar flight path as well... It aired in April 2001 - so it was filmed a couple of months earlier...

So, her's my theory on that: The 9-11 guys hung out in Vegas - no one's ever explained what they were doing there - other than ho's and bros, and the buffet line...

Just suppose they had downed a few brews and were carelessly chatting up their plan, and were overheard by some Hollywood types looking to flesh out a script...

Unlikely, but possible... Ideas?

MCB

Coincidence or not, Jared Leto, lead singer of 30 seconds to Mars played Nick Cage's brother in Lord of WAR.

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Notice the eye inside the pyramid :

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Here also :

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I repeat : WAR in the fall of 2010. October.

It is not the movies them selves but how people react to them and discuss them. As it has been pointed out by many in this thread, the props, the background, the music, etc. so many eyes are looking again and again at these movies; where a 5 years ago, you saw a movie and noticed things that seemed to be foreshadowing events? maybe, but maybe not; you couldn't go back and really go over a movie with a fine tooth comb and offer your findings to others for their comments and thoughts. It is like everything media is now reviewed over and over. I think it's amazing and very interesting.YouTube(5 years old!) has more viewers than prime time TV in America. Another trend: Teens spend more time texting than talking on the phone. I think people writing out their thoughts results in better communication and expression, especially if you are in a group of like minded people. And the quick feedback! There is some kind of perceptual shift happening and it is growing in momentum.

Interesting. Take a look at where the large crack is running....


Haiti.

The Gulf.


Hrmmm..

you guys are late i already knew about Knowing and posted about it in the 12 monkeys thread months ago

you should start studying Zombieland if you really want to know their next move

here's the youtube article:


"YouTube’s viewership now exceeds that of all three networks combined during their “primetime” evening time slot, with more than 2 billion views per day, Google announced Sunday.

tweeted Monday morning, Conan O’Brien seems “a lot funnier on the internets” than he did on network television, and O’Brien recently joked with a roomful of Google employees about a world without television networks. Who knows, five years from now, O’Brien could be hosting his own show on YouTube, rather than fretting about his terminated NBC contract.

“I don’t know what television’s going to be five years from now. There’s a lot of people that think you’re just going to experience it all through your server, and people don’t even know how the business is going to change,” said O’Brien, who should know, as a longtime television host and writer-producer of the Simpsons.

“There might not be really network television as we know it — wouldn’t that be sweet.”

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best thread ive read in some time

you forgot to mention the white rabbits

So what do the white rabbits mean?

Did anyone write down the series of numbers on that piece of paper in the video and connect them with anything yet?

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Another Coincidence?

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