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Is the rapid emptying/draining of the Main Oil Well and the upcoming drilling plan able to create an Earthquake ? (or more? )

 
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Is the rapid emptying/draining of the Main Oil Well and the upcoming drilling plan able to create an Earthquake ? (or more? )
Is the rapid emptying/draining of the Main Oil Well/Reservoir able to create an Earthquake ?

I just got that flashing into my mind, just imagine the following and tell me if it is a possibility, i DO think so, so lets imagine:

- The attempt/new try they speak off now, to drill a side hole to reduce pressure and drain the oil well over a new pipe

- As they drill down another fat hole into possible instable ground due to the methan hydrate resources that now is just like jetstreaming oil and very likely methan resources that get ejected at unimaginable psi Pressure, the heated drill head causes the methane hydrate to change aggregate phase, leading to a massive methane gas bubble, that rips out parts of the ground and more methane in different states of aggregate phases, gas and solid/crystal like, creating a massive displacement of water .

- Also imaginable is a collapsing of parts of the sea floor, due to the said rapid out draining of the resources, and the said possible heated drill head trigger effect.

- We all know what follows a massive and sudden displacement of water, this is no fucking joke, they should somehow try to find out if it is stable and safe and not instable leading to a mega disaster, a Tsunami and/or huge Earthquake or even worse a trigger effect on existing faults!!

I am not a religious guy, so if I say, I PRAY, this will NOT HAPPEN, you might know how heavy this thing is on my mind.

I am from Germany, but we all are delivered to the criminal and greedy elite, that with no empathy fuck up this planet and put us in a invisible prison, so I DO CARE, for you American People, i do care for the enviroment and the animals, but this time, we are fucked big time, no escape this time, the Price will be paid, the price might be a Dead Zone of unimaginable proportions, and as someone mentioned the gulf stream, huh, know now what I am speaking of?

Possible E.L.E. (If the Oceans get completely fucked up)
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Katla
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the lighting up on the horizon of a possible Mega Quake
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many more Shite

Equals in Humanity=Doomed

A time bomb is ticking, and the freaking digital display is broken, thats whats up!
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Depending on how large the oil and methane deposit is and how tick is the rock over it... a collpase of the sea floor I was just asking that to myself if it happen wow.. who knows it could be really really bad and that would just add to the destruction
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Maybe they thought by blowing a hole somewhere else would stop it but ended up with 2 holes blowing a tuba ya know the big one blow a tuba and find out ya know the instrument
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I have been trying to find information on this for a few days now. I haven't come up with anything yet.

I was wondering if this might affect the New Madrid in some way. I have no evidence to make me think so... it's just a "hunch" so strong - that I feel the need to research further.

I hope you have better luck in finding answers.
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Added you to my "personal pins" so I can keep track of this!
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The Problem with more vents is only there because of the methane, if it would be only oil, okay, might work to reduce pressure, but with a methane hydrate/gas resource + a heated drill head causing a change in the aggregate phase (hydrate to gas), i think there is a possiblity, just right BECAUSE of the gas, that this might open a larger vent due to expansion of gas out of hydrate, and/or rip out big size seafloor parts = Mega vent sfan

PS: I hope it´s not a input, given to me, because it really was a sudden flash of thoughts in one go having this in my mind like it has happened right now.

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I have been trying to find information on this for a few days now. I haven't come up with anything yet.

I was wondering if this might affect the New Madrid in some way. I have no evidence to make me think so... it's just a "hunch" so strong - that I feel the need to research further.

I hope you have better luck in finding answers.
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I've been feeling a link with the New Madrid also. Just found this from Feb. 2006 -- YIKES. As an AC I can't post pics but there are a couple of interesting maps at the link ... [link to Do_not_use_this.com]

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2006

5.2 Earthquake Dead Center In Gulf Of Mexico

By Elaine Meinel Supkis

A mid-sized earthquake shook the Gulf of Mexico today. This is where it is geologically pretty stable. It is also right next to the huge salt domes where much of the oil and gas is being extracted. A retired geologist, Mr. Jack M. Reed, theorized there has to be a hidden tectonic plate segment in this spot and it is not only geologically active but is responsible for triggering the New Madrid Quakes.
I found this after writing my article! It is just too cool. This geologist predicted correctly! From the American Association of Petroleum Geologists:
The New Madrid seismic zone in Missouri has long intrigued scientists because, according to conventional geologic theory, large earthquakes clustered in a tectonically quiet region are difficult to understand.

But at least one AAPG member is challenging the crowd.

New Orleans independent geologist Jack M. Reed believes the origin of the earthquakes lies beneath the Gulf of Mexico.


That's not all.

Reed, a retired Texaco geologist-geophysicist who has been studying the region's geology for over 40 years, says the accepted theory of a quiet geologic evolution of the Gulf of Mexico Basin is fundamentally flawed and needs to be revised.

According to him, the Gulf was and is tectonically active -- and it is the likely origin for not only the New Madrid seismic activity, but also for the Middleton Place-Summerville seismic zone near Charleston, S.C.
I grew up around geologists working with my dad on siting observatories. One puzzle they all liked to chew over at leisure is the riddle of the New Madrid Fault. It made no sense.

Today's earthquake, no small one, was an eye-opener which is why, the minute I saw it in today's data, I jumped on it.
From the good geologist:
"This northeast trending earthquake zone appears to connect with the northeast trending Monroe Uplift, the LaSalle Arch and, possibly, to an active seismic zone located in and around Sabine Lake on the Texas-Louisiana border," he said.

This complex of doming and seismic centers is similar to another Cretaceous age triple juncture located in the northeastern Gulf of Mexico Basin. Doming of the DeSoto Canyon High during the Jurassic to Cretaceous created this triple juncture, which includes the Cretaceous Shelf Edge, the Suwannee Strait and the West Florida Escarpment.

If the New Madrid seismic zone is indeed part of a triple juncture, he continued, there should be an expression of this limb trending along a line in a northeast direction.

So Reed conducted a study using data from the U.S. Geological Survey's National Earthquake Information Center and the USGS map "Earthquakes in the Conterminous United States." He only studied earthquakes measuring at least magnitude 5, and found that while most of the earthquake centers are random with no alignment, there is a well-defined earthquake trend extending northeastward from the New Madrid seismic zone across the United States to Canada, where it joins with the St. Lawrence River seismic zone.

Within the boundaries of this earthquake alignment there are:

Sixty-one seismic points that have a magnitude of 5 and greater.
Several large earthquakes dating to the early 1800s, all measuring over magnitude 8, all occurring within a couple of months of each other, all centered in a northeast trending line.
The two 5+ earthquakes that occurred earlier this year in northern New York state and southern Indiana.
"There is definitely some form of movement occurring along this trend," Reed said, "and it appears to be active today."
Well, it really was active today! I bet he is happy as a lark, seeing more evidence his personal theory is correct. I hope this gets good coverage for it is a major geological "find"! Indeed. Congratulations, Mr. Reed! Take a bow.

Click here for raw data. Click here for the earthquake world map. I have noticed over the last year or so, many earthquakes like to happen at 10.0 km. Whether under water or on land. It is like the earth's crust has this blanket on top that operates independent of the lower layers. Some of our nastiest quakes occur at this depth, the earth's blanket being shaken and tugged like Mother Nature is straightening out the bed.

The geology where this happened is interesting because it isn't all that prone to earthquakes. Just last week, I noted there was a much gentler earthquake right in New Orleans just when tornadoes were hitting that poor city! The New Madrid Fault has been shaking a bit, lately. As if it were trembling, waiting for something.

The continental shelf falls rapidly where today's quake happened and maybe the entire Mississippi valley is ready for some serious alterations. The Mid-Atlantic ridge had a 4.6 mag earthquake right next to Iceland which is the volcanic island erupting out of the northern end of the Mid-Atlantic ridge. It, too, was at the interesting depth of 10.0km. Santiago, Chile, had a 4.2 quake at pretty much the same time. I noted this morning that the earth was very quiet for the previous 24 hrs and said to myself, "There are going to be some interesting shakes today," for these quakes are tending to swarm across great distances, like the earth is shuddering still from the side effects of the big blow out last winter.

The geological stability of this part of the Gulf is very important for us since we have deep drilling going on there and if the earth shifts, the various layers shift at different rates so a pipe going straight down can get displaces and cease working as a well.OCSBBS:
There have been significant new discoveries (such as Great White, Trident, Chinook, St. Malo, and Cascade) in the ultra-deep waters of Walker Ridge and Alaminos Canyon. These discoveries open up a whole new geologic play with exciting potential.

Industry has made great technological achievements in recent years. Examples include polyester mooring, composite risers, cell spars, and 15,000-psi subsea trees.

There was a 51 percent increase in the number of producing deepwater projects over the past 2 years.

Deepwater production has risen more than 100,000 barrels of oil per day (BOPD) and over 400 million cubic feet per day (MMCFPD) each year since 1997. (Production volumes were only available through 2002 at the time of writing due to the production data lag.)

Subsea gas production has increased 90 percent since December 2000.

Since the start of 2000, new deepwater drilling has added over 4.5 billion barrels of oil equivalent (BOE).
We aren't awash in gas or oil, much of this deep water drilling simply replaces well heads that are beginning to fail.

From Priweb.org:
Just onshore, in south eastern Texas and southern Louisiana, the flowage of salt domes has been the predominant mechanism for creating traps for oil. Salt of Jurassic age occurs here. When it is put under immense pressure by overlying rocks, this salt, which is less dense than the rocks surrounding it, will begin to flow upward. As it does so, it displaces, folds, and faults the rocks around it. In this way, traps can be created.

The Louann Salt is more than 200 million years old, and is located at great depths along the Gulf of Mexico's shoreline. In some places, however, this salt has moved due to the enormous pressure being put on it from the rocks above.
This all takes us back to the beginning, namely, the great Permian age when living things began to rapidly evolve and creatures crawled out of the teeming seas and plants colonized the earth and the atmosphere filled with oxygen and it all came crashing down, as we talked about, this week.

The great salt flats covered over all the rich plant and animal life, the hot seas evaporated in the various shallow seas, tons of salt built up over millions of years as the planet slowly readjusted and life forms began to slowly recolonize the previously dead regions. All that stuff is what we are pumping out today and you might say, the ghosts of these once living creatures are now looming over us all.

[link to Do_not_use_this.com]

If this is true, then we are in deep deep deep shit.
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Damn the link won't take. I did a Google search for "new madrid fault line map" and clicked Google Images and clicked on the image from culturelifesciencenews.blogspot.

try again:

[link to culturelifesciencenews.blogspot.com]
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Re: Is the rapid emptying/draining of the Main Oil Well and the upcoming drilling plan able to create an Earthquake ? (or more? )
Plate tectonics determines the location of oil and gas reservoirs, so yes there are fault lines in the Gulf of Mexico, and more!

PDF file
[link to www.cseg.ca]

5.8 gulf of Mexico
Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 14:56:07 (UTC)

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]


[link to oceanexplorer.noaa.gov]

all oil in gulf
[link to oceanexplorer.noaa.gov]

known fault lines salt dome on the continental shelf of the Gulf of Mexico.
[link to oceanexplorer.noaa.gov]



can the taking of oil increase or decrease eq's? Theories around, say oil, and magma, act as lubrication allowing plates to slide smoothly. when we drill for oil, it changes pressure, and changes the way plate tectonics move. Plates could slow down, causing smaller less frequent earthquakes in the short term. However in the long term, they could lock, increase pressure and the suddenly release energy known as slip thrust earthquakes.


what will the sudden collapse of those salt dome do, create a tsunami?


more here
[link to oceanexplorer.noaa.gov]

off to get some shut eye.
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I've been feeling a link with the New Madrid also. Just found this from Feb. 2006 -- YIKES. As an AC I can't post pics but there are a couple of interesting maps at the link ... [link to Do_not_use_this.com]

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2006

5.2 Earthquake Dead Center In Gulf Of Mexico

By Elaine Meinel Supkis

<SNIP>
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967002



By searching on Geologist Jack Reed, I found the following article from 2002 on the American Associates of Petroleum Geologists Website. Looks like the reporter of your link has cut and pasted the top half of this text from 2002. I repost it here because this article goes even further in depth. VERY INTERESTING!
- - - - - - - - - - -

Geologist Offers a New Theory

Gulf's Evolution Makes the Shakes
By KATHY SHIRLEY
EXPLORER Correspondent
<SNIP to avoid wall of text>

Questions? Answers!

One piece of this evidence, according to Reed, is the apparent connection of the New Madrid seismic zone with the Gulf rift features to the south.

"This northeast trending earthquake zone appears to connect with the northeast trending Monroe Uplift, the LaSalle Arch and, possibly, to an active seismic zone located in and around Sabine Lake on the Texas-Louisiana border," he said.

This complex of doming and seismic centers is similar to another Cretaceous age triple juncture located in the northeastern Gulf of Mexico Basin. Doming of the DeSoto Canyon High during the Jurassic to Cretaceous created this triple juncture, which includes the Cretaceous Shelf Edge, the Suwannee Strait and the West Florida Escarpment.

If the New Madrid seismic zone is indeed part of a triple juncture, he continued, there should be an expression of this limb trending along a line in a northeast direction.

So Reed conducted a study using data from the U.S. Geological Survey's National Earthquake Information Center and the USGS map "Earthquakes in the Conterminous United States." He only studied earthquakes measuring at least magnitude 5, and found that while most of the earthquake centers are random with no alignment, there is a well-defined earthquake trend extending northeastward from the New Madrid seismic zone across the United States to Canada, where it joins with the St. Lawrence River seismic zone.

Within the boundaries of this earthquake alignment there are:

Sixty-one seismic points that have a magnitude of 5 and greater.
Several large earthquakes dating to the early 1800s, all measuring over magnitude 8, all occurring within a couple of months of each other, all centered in a northeast trending line.
The two 5+ earthquakes that occurred earlier this year in northern New York state and southern Indiana.
"There is definitely some form of movement occurring along this trend," Reed said, "and it appears to be active today."

As he continued that trend south of New Madrid he found that it was in line with the Monroe Uplift.

"Suddenly I could see that this area had doming much like I had seen at the Desoto Canyon in the Gulf," he said. "This entire zone through the United States is suffering some type of tectonic activity that I believe is tied to the deeply buried tectonics in the Gulf of Mexico."

Answers? Questions!

Reed has developed an interpretation, which he is quick to point out is just a theory, on this tectonic activity:

As Africa jammed into North America and thrust up the Appalachians, there were compressional forces acting along the front of the mountain range.
This force caused long linear thrust faults to form in front of and parallel to the uplifting mountain chain.
Not only was the lithosphere thrust upward to form the Appalachians, some of the lithosphere was thrust downward into the asthenosphere. The result was a long, prominent bulge extending into the asthenosphere over the length of the Appalachians.
As separation from Africa occurred and the North American continent began to move westward, tensional forces came into play in the trailing edge of this moving plate. The long lithospheric downward bulge became an impediment to this plate motion as it moved over and through the asthenosphere.
This action caused a drag in plate motion with tensional forces being the greatest along a line in front of and parallel to the Appalachians.
"The results would be gradual separation of the lithosphere," he said, "likely along the older thrust fault trend."

Reed believes this rifting certainly impacted the Gulf of Mexico as well.

He also concedes that even with the years of research, several unanswered questions still exist about the Gulf's origins:

Regarding one of the most accepted theories, that updip sedimentary loading moved the salt masses in the Gulf seaward: Where is the original salt basin?

"If this salt mass movement was reversed by paleo-reconstruction and moved back to the original salt deposition basin, which would be directly south of the Cretaceous Shelf Edge, the original salt thickness would have to be in a six-figure range to accommodate this huge salt mass," he said. "It would dwarf the Himalayas."

Regarding salt distribution and the sub-horizontal, allochthonous salt flow theory: Wouldn't the salt have to be vented to an open, deepwater environment where it would, very questionably, remain unprotected for several geologic stages until covered by sediments of a later period?

"This theory doesn't take into consideration the role of the Interior basin and the Cretaceous Shelf Edge," he said, which separates the Interior and Exterior salt basins and is described in most literature as a simple Lower Cretaceous carbonate bank build-up.

"If this is true, why does a much younger Cretaceous feature divide the lower Jurassic salt basin into two parts?

"Why is there a strong magnetic response along the length of the feature?

"Why has there been igneous intrusives found along the shelf edge?"
<SNIP to avoid wall of text>

There is a TON more at the link on this article. Please go and have a look for yourself.
[link to www.aapg.org]

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