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<<< The movie - KNOWING - does indeed tell us what is about to happen. >>>

 
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And the crashed plane marked 'EC VJL', any clue?
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I've considered it, but nothing that stands out. If it means anything, it's encoded in some way. Chances are, if it does have meaning, it's probably initials of something that has meaning to one someone who worked on the film. I'm sure film-makers put their initials and the initials of their secret lovers in their movies frequently, lol.
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Here's what I noticed, as an adept of the mysteries myself. Take of it what you will.


When they are in the classroom at the beginning of the movie, one of the first things you notice is the blackboard with the words on it. If you look on the right hand side of the board, you will see a square and a compass right next to it. I'm sure you get the significance of this.
...............................

The words on the blackboard: If you look at the second word, which is hack, read in order, this word and the words under it. You get, hack, guy, body, axe, and stitch. Strange terms for an elementary class. No apparent occult meaning though.
...............................

Then, the girl who wrote the "prophecy" of numbers was named Luciana (or was it Lucilia, or Lucinda?). LVX, or LUX is the Greek word for light, also a very significant term in the Occult societies. Note, Lucifer means light-bearer; light-bearer represents the giver of knowledge, or bringer of information. What was the girls key role here?
................................

Time capsule is buried in the center of the Octogram, or eight pointed star. This represents death, rebirth, and regeneration. ( the musical scale ends at 7, starts over at 8. Same thing with the colors)
You could also consider it attributed to the Sephirah Hod; representing interference and restriction of energies, which Thoth, the God of wisdom, learning, and the carrier of messages is attributed as well.
Lucinda is also holding an orange balloon at this same moment; the color of this sphere of the tree of life.
................................

50 years later, when they pull the time capsule back from the ground, the kids at the ceremony are singing "this little light of mine, I'm going to let it shine"....Still on this theme.
................................

The spelling words mentioned are interesting; when Cage erases the board, he leaves the term "deal between piece chief". Could mean nothing, but then again, nothing is insignificant or unintentional with these people.
................................


Now lets look at the tragedies that were the main focus. The first happened in the Gulf of Mexico with the oil rig explosion. The second, the airplane. The third, the subway tunnel underground. The last, the CME that fried earth.
Water, Air, Earth, Fire.
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At the end of film, the children each take a rabbit to the new planet, rabbits being a symbol for fertility and reproduction. They are also icons of the Goddess ISHTAR, hence the associations with bunnies and EASTER; Easter being a date for rebirth, regeneration and new beginnings.

These are just a few I noticed immediately, maybe later I will go through the film and jot down everything else.
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Wow that was great spotting - please find more this is getting more and more interesting.

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And the crashed plane marked 'EC VJL', any clue?


I've considered it, but nothing that stands out. If it means anything, it's encoded in some way. Chances are, if it does have meaning, it's probably initials of something that has meaning to one someone who worked on the film. I'm sure film-makers put their initials and the initials of their secret lovers in their movies frequently, lol.
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No....

If this film is giving us real clues, then today's news of the air crash in Libya is important:

Thread: 105 dead after crash in libya!!

E (Elevated)
C (Carrier)

V (Vengeance)
J (Johannesburg)
L (Libya)


103 people died in this crash. 11 were crew members. (remember that 11 died in the oil rig explosion)

The Pan Am Flight 103 that was terror bombed over Lockerbie Scotland occurred 22 (11 + 11) years ago. 11 people on the ground in Scotland also died. Libya was found to be guilty.

This flight left Johannesburg and crashed in Libya.
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Interesting so backwards and now forwards - do we expect a tube station terrorist next?

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Interesting so backwards and now forwards - do we expect a tube station terrorist next?

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Op..re: the "vengeance" part: they say that revenge (vengeance) is a dish best served COLD...iow, late...years late.

BTW, if we have a tube station event next, I will be very worried. As in, very.

Just got the dvd of this movie, will watch it tonight.
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volcano's create more ash cloud than an oil well could.

also, oil fires already happened in Gulf War 1 in the 90's.
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Here's what I noticed, as an adept of the mysteries myself. Take of it what you will.


When they are in the classroom at the beginning of the movie, one of the first things you notice is the blackboard with the words on it. If you look on the right hand side of the board, you will see a square and a compass right next to it. I'm sure you get the significance of this.
...............................

The words on the blackboard: If you look at the second word, which is hack, read in order, this word and the words under it. You get, hack, guy, body, axe, and stitch. Strange terms for an elementary class. No apparent occult meaning though.
...............................

Then, the girl who wrote the "prophecy" of numbers was named Luciana (or was it Lucilia, or Lucinda?). LVX, or LUX is the Greek word for light, also a very significant term in the Occult societies. Note, Lucifer means light-bearer; light-bearer represents the giver of knowledge, or bringer of information. What was the girls key role here?
................................

Time capsule is buried in the center of the Octogram, or eight pointed star. This represents death, rebirth, and regeneration. ( the musical scale ends at 7, starts over at 8. Same thing with the colors)
You could also consider it attributed to the Sephirah Hod; representing interference and restriction of energies, which Thoth, the God of wisdom, learning, and the carrier of messages is attributed as well.
Lucinda is also holding an orange balloon at this same moment; the color of this sphere of the tree of life.
................................

50 years later, when they pull the time capsule back from the ground, the kids at the ceremony are singing "this little light of mine, I'm going to let it shine"....Still on this theme.
................................

The spelling words mentioned are interesting; when Cage erases the board, he leaves the term "deal between piece chief". Could mean nothing, but then again, nothing is insignificant or unintentional with these people.
................................


Now lets look at the tragedies that were the main focus. The first happened in the Gulf of Mexico with the oil rig explosion. The second, the airplane. The third, the subway tunnel underground. The last, the CME that fried earth.
Water, Air, Earth, Fire.

................................

At the end of film, the children each take a rabbit to the new planet, rabbits being a symbol for fertility and reproduction. They are also icons of the Goddess ISHTAR, hence the associations with bunnies and EASTER; Easter being a date for rebirth, regeneration and new beginnings.

These are just a few I noticed immediately, maybe later I will go through the film and jot down everything else.


Wow that was great spotting - please find more this is getting more and more interesting.

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+1
excellent disertation. those are some of the most interesting ones that stood out for me.

so what's next FOR US??????????

Over the past 3 weeks we've had the oil spill and a significant plane crash. Now do we head for the bunkers for the CME portion...just like some on here (like that guy from the Boeing/NASA thread) said and do it by June/July...for this half man/half natural disaster?!?!?
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volcano's create more ash cloud than an oil well could.

also, oil fires already happened in Gulf War 1 in the 90's.
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Yes true but isn't this leak and the level of this oil huge compared?

Who knows, maybe they will blow it out and it will leak a huge amount when they make the attempt to stop it with the nuke?

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^^^^^
oh yeah let's not forget those NYC threat from the past 2 weeks too

major headline stuff folks. Not to be ignored.

I'm gonna bet on extreme HOT coming our way.
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In the movie the tube station incident happened at the corner of Worth st and Lafayette St.

Lafayette is in Louisiana and the oil spill is said to be off the coast of Louisiana.

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"deal between piece chief".

this is a clue. very important. the missing link. norway spiral, timeline. peace prize. bills passing and nominations, currency, gold, radar anomilies........
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Polands King, crashed?

biometric bank ID to begin there now .

just sayin'
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He talks about a super flare in our solar system that kills every living thing on the planet.
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He talks about a super flare in our solar system that kills every living thing on the planet.
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Not going to happen - bible says one third of the Earth dies.

Probably the opposite in some way, like it says in the bible and the sun is like it is covered in sack cloth.

So yes, big fire but smoke blocks the sun light, this is the major problem.

The movie shows many things as opposites or backwards.

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At the end of film, the children each take a rabbit to the new planet, rabbits being a symbol for fertility and reproduction. They are also icons of the Goddess ISHTAR, hence the associations with bunnies and EASTER; Easter being a date for rebirth, regeneration and new beginnings.

These are just a few I noticed immediately, maybe later I will go through the film and jot down everything else.


Wow that was great spotting - please find more this is getting more and more interesting.

.


+1
excellent disertation. those are some of the most interesting ones that stood out for me.

so what's next FOR US??????????

Over the past 3 weeks we've had the oil spill and a significant plane crash. Now do we head for the bunkers for the CME portion...just like some on here (like that guy from the Boeing/NASA thread) said and do it by June/July...for this half man/half natural disaster?!?!?
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"So, what's next for us?"

Well, if we have a subway (tube) station attack soon, I would be extremely worried.

Just watched the movie again. At the end, the two children are dressed in white linen running toward the Tree of Life...

BTW, the white rabbits have nothing at all to do with Easter in this movie. They have everything to do with the white stone (verdict of innocence) of Revelation, as opposed to the black stone given to the guilty.
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LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE PICKED APART THESE CONNECTIONS months ago....

TAKE A LOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Part 1


(who ever got that the little girl's name was a play on Lucifer is a genius....of course she was named "Lucinda" in the movie....all knowing...um, hmmmm. Just like the company "Lucis Trust" is tied to Obama and the UN and was founded by Satanists such as ALICE BAILEY.)

Good job GLP'ers.
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Part 2


Part 3


Part 4


Part 5
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sorry. Part 6 got cut out.

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sorry. Part 6 got cut out.


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I meant, part 5. my apologies again folks.
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Part 1


(who ever got that the little girl's name was a play on Lucifer is a genius....of course she was named "Lucinda" in the movie....all knowing...um, hmmmm. Just like the company "Lucis Trust" is tied to Obama and the UN and was founded by Satanists such as ALICE BAILEY.)

At the 2:55 mark, I didn't know what OUROBOROs was...

hmmmm....

it's all symbolic satanism

Ouroboros as found in wiki
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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bits and peices
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"deal between piece chief".

this is a clue. very important. the missing link. norway spiral, timeline. peace prize. bills passing and nominations, currency, gold, radar anomilies........
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anagram...

..'I chewed feeble patience'
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This movie exposes something I was just starting to guess at.

Fire as in Lake of fire etc which is in the bible does not refer to burning in hell and the fire that is at the end of this movie which comes from the SUN does not mean destruction - it stands for being tested by God - the Judgment.

The Sun is a symbol for God.

Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Is not about burning to death ... It is about the Judgment.

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1 Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1 Corinthians 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.


Fire symbolizes purification and transformation.


Dan Browns book said - all that is hid must be revealed - has the Apocalypse begun?

Apocalypse: something viewed as a prophetic revelation.

Luke 12:2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.

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^^^ further proof that this is what is really meant by the Sun burning everybody was in the picture with Ezekiel's wheel which showed God in the Sun.

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They got 16 million dollars in compensation, and they are still vengenful?


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What a bunch of mother-fuckers.
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I meant 16 million dollars each.
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EC VJL

EL - ANCIENT NAME FOR GOD

According to church fathers of early Christianity, El was the first Hebrew name of God. Dante Alighieri in his De vulgari eloquentia suggests that the name was the first sound emitted by Adam: While the first utterance of humans after birth is a cry of pain, Dante assumed that Adam could only have made an exclamation of joy, which at the same time was addressing his Creator. In the Divina commedia, however, Dante contradicts this by saying that God was called I in the language of Adam, and only named El in later Hebrew, but before the confusion of tongues (Paradiso, 26.134).

JC obviously JESUS CHRIST

V victor, peace, or a mark standing for a slash which goes in either direction / \ \/ to indicate that JC IS EL

Perhaps a reference to the return of Christ at the time of the Apocalypse.
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Am watching Knowing again tonight...I noticed one of the names on the door where Cage is going to speak to the schoolteacher.

Lloyd Cross

Lloyd Cross is an American physicist and holographer.

As a physicist, Cross' research started in the 1950s, and focused primarily on masers and lasers at Willow Run Laboratories, at the University of Michigan.

By 1971, he had made his way to San Francisco, California and founded the San Francisco Holography School, to teach his hologram techniques. In 1972 he developed the "integral hologram" by combining holography with conventional cinematography to produce three-dimensional images that appeared to move. Sequential frames of two-dimensional movie footage of a rotating subject are recorded on holographic film.

In the mid 1970s, Cross founded the Multiplex Corporation, to find commercial applications and further develop his holographic techniques.

Could this be the same company?

[link to www.multiplexinc.com]
Multiplex Inc offers high-speed electro-absorption modulated lasers (EMLs), high-sensitivity photoreceivers, fixed wavelength and tunable transponders and transceivers , plus higher functionality subsystems.
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This thread shows the power of the internet and that many brains, are indeed better than one.

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The movie has oil prices reaching all-time highs.

Prices are well below all-time highs.

You can't cherry-pick GLP-style your doom in a fictional Hollywood trash movie and claim it's prescient.
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I've often wondered if TPTB would "stage" the coming of Christ, using a hologram, or maybe aliens, to deceive the people into believing this was the apocalypse.

Or

Perhaps even the antichrist...Remember how CNN used holograms on election night in 2008?


Daniel Lewin, co-founder of Akamai died in the plane that hit the WTC. In an interview, he stated that the technology they had developed was above and beyond anything anyone could imagine. He said he couldn't talk about it, however, he said to think XXHigh Definition.

I haven't been able to find that interview on the net again.


Here is a snip of an interview with Tom Leighton, his "partner" in Akamai.

We started researching in 1995, and in 1996 Danny Lewin came to our graduate school and became my advisee. We worked on developing algorithms and programs for distributing content on large scale networks and doing that efficiently.

In 1997 we entered the MIT 50K Competition. That is a student run business competition at MIT.

[SM: Daniel Lewin was the other co-founder and original CTO of Akamai. He was on one of the American Airlines flights that crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and was killed at the age of 31.]

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