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WITH THE OIL SPILL LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO NOT TALK ABOUT -- GAS SHORTAGES

 
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WITH THE OIL SPILL LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO NOT TALK ABOUT -- GAS SHORTAGES
They talk about the fishing industry. They talk about the tourist industry. They'll show you a dead turtle or jellyfish.

You will not find one single word since May 1, eleven days ago, about closed oil rigs. On May 1 they announced that they closed two oil rigs. Nothing since then.

With all of the oil and natural gas floating near the surface of the water, they have to close all the oil rigs in the gulf. That means no gasoline. Gas shortages.
They won't talk about gas shortages because this time it is going to be different from Katrina. This time, the rigs won't start up again until the leak is fixed. The last time this happened in the Gulf it took 9 months to fix. It took 9 months and the leak was 150 feet deep. 9 months to fix a leak that was 150 feet deep.

This is 3 leaks and it is 5,000 feet deep.

How long do you think it will take to fix this leak?

How long do you think we can go without gasoline?

THAT is what they aren't talking about in the immediate future.

It will get worse from there.
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are you new here, or are you just kinda slow?
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I have read every single thing I could find here about this event.

I have not read a single word related to closed oil rigs and that fact that very soon there is not going to be any gasoline. Oh, with the exception of my own comments several days ago.

But then, I thought it would be because the waterways were closed. Although tremendous efforts at disinformation have continuted to insist that all of the waterways are open.

I didn't consider that even if the waterways are open, the oil rigs would all close. Either way, no gas. I have read almost nothing anywhere, except for my own comments, about the fact that there will soon be no gasoline.

Nor have I read a single word about such an event anywhere on line.

Nor have they mentioned closing oil rigs since May 1, although I'm sure that they are closing the oil rigs, or have closed them.

Nor have I seen anything much about the fact that the Ixtoc leak occurred in 150 feet of water and lasted for 9 months.


But, I have repeatedly encountered people like yourself who want to discount every single thing I say.

Which of course means that I'm saying something true, doesn't it?
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Re: WITH THE OIL SPILL LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO NOT TALK ABOUT -- GAS SHORTAGES
1. Get boat.

2. Go out there and scoop it up.

3. Refine it to diesel fuel level (easy one).

4. Run it in your car or sell to neighbors.

5. PROFIT!

(diesel fuel can be kept around for a long time, so you have your own supply for years)
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Guess Gas Shortages is a kind of scary topic here on GLP,
huh?
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Guess Gas Shortages is a kind of scary topic here on GLP,
huh?
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Considering most of our oil is imported and there's no increase in price yet, I'd say no, we don't give a fuck at the moment. Thanks.
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Guess you are the one who is uninformed, but here is a link, maybe you can learn something.

[link to www.fossil.energy.gov]

When Katrina closed the Gulf and the offshore rigs, they had to tap into the strategic oil reserves and there were gas shortages.

Almost all of the hubs for transporting gas are in the Gulf.
So are all of the refineries.

They can only draw down 4.4 million barrels/day from the reserves. America uses 23 million barrels/day.

The reserves can only last about a month if they were relied on entirely. Maybe a few months if there was oil coming in from elsewhere.

I think by the end of Summer the country should just about be brought to its knees by the lack of oil.

That's the immediately pressing issue. That's the elephant in the living room we aren't supposed to notice.

No, let's all worry about the seafood industry, or maybe the plankton. Let's not notice that the entire country is going to be shut down by this, and soon.
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Guess you are the one who is uninformed, but here is a link, maybe you can learn something.

[link to www.fossil.energy.gov]

When Katrina closed the Gulf and the offshore rigs, they had to tap into the strategic oil reserves and there were gas shortages.

Almost all of the hubs for transporting gas are in the Gulf.
So are all of the refineries.

They can only draw down 4.4 million barrels/day from the reserves. America uses 23 million barrels/day.

The reserves can only last about a month if they were relied on entirely. Maybe a few months if there was oil coming in from elsewhere.

I think by the end of Summer the country should just about be brought to its knees by the lack of oil.

That's the immediately pressing issue. That's the elephant in the living room we aren't supposed to notice.

No, let's all worry about the seafood industry, or maybe the plankton. Let's not notice that the entire country is going to be shut down by this, and soon.
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The ports aren't closed...the refineries aren't closed.
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Guess Gas Shortages is a kind of scary topic here on GLP,
huh?
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Wont happen. The Oil slick isn't bad enough to shut down every rig in the gulf [there are hundreds if not thousands]. The oil from the spill wasn't part of our supply. The oil thats spreading is too thin to cause many problems with the other rigs.
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Re: WITH THE OIL SPILL LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO NOT TALK ABOUT -- GAS SHORTAGES
You know when Katrina occurred I kept searching and searching online for information about gas shortages and I could not find a thing. I would see something and then it would disappear. I went to sites like this and was pretty much entirely ridiculed, ignored, or banned. Today, I'm looking for info about possible gas shortages as a result of this event, and I pull up the Oil Drum and there is loads of info about gas shortages across the South after Katrina that was completely suppressed at the time it was occurring. I believe this event will be handled in the same way, on this site, and elsewhere across the internet, and in all of the media. Your supercilious insistance that this is a totally groundless concern assures me that it is indeed the greatest issue at this time. The powers that be fear that if people hear too much there will be panic at the pumps, and then rationing, and then total economic shut down. That's the real deal for right now. No gas. Next, no food. Last, no water or air.
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Guess you are the one who is uninformed, but here is a link, maybe you can learn something.

[link to www.fossil.energy.gov]

When Katrina closed the Gulf and the offshore rigs, they had to tap into the strategic oil reserves and there were gas shortages.

Almost all of the hubs for transporting gas are in the Gulf.
So are all of the refineries.

They can only draw down 4.4 million barrels/day from the reserves. America uses 23 million barrels/day.

The reserves can only last about a month if they were relied on entirely. Maybe a few months if there was oil coming in from elsewhere.

I think by the end of Summer the country should just about be brought to its knees by the lack of oil.

That's the immediately pressing issue. That's the elephant in the living room we aren't supposed to notice.

No, let's all worry about the seafood industry, or maybe the plankton. Let's not notice that the entire country is going to be shut down by this, and soon.

The ports aren't closed...the refineries aren't closed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961422


How can you possibly KNOW what is closed? They were closing oil rigs on May 1. We know that. But we have know idea whatsoever what has been going on since then.
Total blackout. We see some silly white storage shed in the black of night that couldn't withstand a strong rainstorm as the solution to a problem occurring 5,000 feet below sealevel. Are you kidding me? Submarines can only go about 1300 feet and they have 3 inch thick steel hulls. But this tin can is supposed to be able to survive 5,000 feet? A car would be completely crushed by that kind of pressure but that tin roofed piece of shit is supposed to be the answer to our problems. It's just fucking insulting the shit they put out there. They honestly do believe we are fucking morons.
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Re: WITH THE OIL SPILL LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO NOT TALK ABOUT -- GAS SHORTAGES
This won't contribute to a gas shortage. the well was not in production. Nothing being drilled is in production.

There are pipelines running from already drilled and producing rigs. That hasn't been, and won't be stopped.
There are over 4000 producing rigs in the Gulf right now.

The BP rig was drilled, not producing. It's one of thousands. Do the math.
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This won't contribute to a gas shortage. the well was not in production. Nothing being drilled is in production.

There are pipelines running from already drilled and producing rigs. That hasn't been, and won't be stopped.
There are over 4000 producing rigs in the Gulf right now.

The BP rig was drilled, not producing. It's one of thousands. Do the math.


 Quoting: Texas Uncensored


Of course I realize that the oil we are not getting from the blownout rig is not going to be an issue. I find it almost impossible to believe that you honestly believe that anyone could reasonably think that.

But, I do believe that other oil rigs that are standing in the oily and gaseous waters will be shut down, probably already have been shut down.

I also believe that large oil tankers, and every other kind of ship will no longer be coming into the Gulf ports, the countries main ports of entry, because it will be too dangerous and because there are laws about befouling our waters.

This has probably already happened.
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05/11/2010 03:48 AM
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"befouling"???
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exactly!! wehy are we still paying a lot at the pump... i don't think that theres peak oil...but we should look for a better energy source still. Plastics are an environmental disaster.
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Did anyone else think it was kind of weird that the only people they seemed to be recruiting to "help" with the disaster were Vietnamese? Who knows how much total bullshit has been slung by these assholes, but isn't it likely that if you need to recruit people and you want to keep the entire thing off the record, you have to get people who are totally isolated from the mainstream society? How about a small group foreigners who don't speak English?
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Alsoo that smog is the main culprit with lung cancer, but to blame just cigarette smoking (2nd hand smoke) as the main culprit is retarded.
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I've played this game on here before. First there's the ridicule. Then we have feigned stupidity. I believe this is followed by accolades and then banning. Accolades are next....bring em on.
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Wait, aren't you going to tell me how brilliant I am and ask if I've come up with any other ideas you can take a look at?
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Right before you ban me, that is.
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We still aren't traveling as we did before, the summer gas spike will fail again.
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When the price goes up, yes we'll be concerned. And yes it's on our minds.
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This won't contribute to a gas shortage. the well was not in production. Nothing being drilled is in production.

There are pipelines running from already drilled and producing rigs. That hasn't been, and won't be stopped.
There are over 4000 producing rigs in the Gulf right now.

The BP rig was drilled, not producing. It's one of thousands. Do the math.




Of course I realize that the oil we are not getting from the blownout rig is not going to be an issue. I find it almost impossible to believe that you honestly believe that anyone could reasonably think that.

But, I do believe that other oil rigs that are standing in the oily and gaseous waters will be shut down, probably already have been shut down.

I also believe that large oil tankers, and every other kind of ship will no longer be coming into the Gulf ports, the countries main ports of entry, because it will be too dangerous and because there are laws about befouling our waters.

This has probably already happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 530536


My response was based on your post.

They are not going to shut down rigs that are producing because of oil in the water. Many are linked through a pipeline network underwater that brings in the oil. Others load it onto tankers.
Gulf ports will be as busy as ever. These are some of the largest and busiest ports in the world.

I live here. My dad worked for oil companies for 40 years, and retired on an oil pension, in Houston. I was reading pressure gages when I was 6.
You are speaking from assumptions, not knowledge.
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Oh yea, I forgot the claiming of privileged, insider information. Oil tankers....in the middle of a highly volatile soup, yea that's gotta be it.
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op, in my mind it's even more proof something fishy is really going on. hell, if a hurricane even goes near the rigs, they used to jack up the price of gas immediately after.
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There are laws in place which state that no vessels may enter American ports that are contaminated with anything.
They are claiming that they must WASH all of the vessels that come in from the Gulf before they enter the Mississippi. No contamination of fresh water. I believe these laws are in place. I don't believe they are washing ships. I believe they may be rerouting some ships to other ports. I believe the Gulf is shut down. The blackout of any information whatsoever related to this situation reinforces my belief. They were shutting down functioning oil rigs on May 1 because of their proximity to the oil slick. It is reasonable to assume that they are ALL shut down as of today.
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This won't contribute to a gas shortage. the well was not in production. Nothing being drilled is in production.

There are pipelines running from already drilled and producing rigs. That hasn't been, and won't be stopped.
There are over 4000 producing rigs in the Gulf right now.

The BP rig was drilled, not producing. It's one of thousands. Do the math.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored



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Read my guage asshole, NO GAS, EMPTY. granny
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Read my guage asshole, NO GAS, EMPTY. granny
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Read my guage asshole, NO GAS, EMPTY. granny
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There are laws in place which state that no vessels may enter American ports that are contaminated with anything.
They are claiming that they must WASH all of the vessels that come in from the Gulf before they enter the Mississippi. No contamination of fresh water. I believe these laws are in place. I don't believe they are washing ships. I believe they may be rerouting some ships to other ports. I believe the Gulf is shut down. The blackout of any information whatsoever related to this situation reinforces my belief. They were shutting down functioning oil rigs on May 1 because of their proximity to the oil slick. It is reasonable to assume that they are ALL shut down as of today.
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