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I guess what I am trying to say is that evidently the regulations are inadequate or not enforced.

For example, not one fire boom on the Gulf Coast. Now who would have thought that the case since they are a big part of contingency plans.

And yet we have people trying to limit our salt intake and other personal habits all the time while major stuff like this is apparently totally ignored.

But personally, I don't think any of their little schemes to stop this will work.
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Well, I think some of the regs need to be reviewed, sure. But the idea of having a federal plan for mitigation without making provision for the equipment is just ludicrous and idiotic. That happened on Clinton's watch. Not sure which agency governs.
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Has the President even responded to the crisis??
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No, he's too busy making jokes about immigration and nominating BUTT UGLY women to the SCOTUS.
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Hey, Ice. I'm posting this so you can see it. This is the most hopeful thing I have seen so far ...


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A team of former NASA, NOAA and US Army scientists have provided information to President Obama, to British Petroleum, the U.S. Coast Guard Incident Commander, Admiral Thad Allen and to Secretary of the Interior, Ken Salazar, offering technology they claim can be used to stop the flow of oil spilling from a damaged well head at the site of the former Deepwater Horizon oil platform which exploded on April 20, 2010 and sank two days later claiming 11 lives. The information was provided to the White House and USCG Incident Command HQ today.

The team is led by former NASA Scholar/Scientist Dr. Joseph A. Resnick, Chief Scientist for NxGenUSA Corporation of Pittsburgh, PA. and includes Dr. Denyse DeBrucq, CEO of Air Wars Defense, LP, Xenia, OH, a former consultant to the US Army, Dr. Richard Archer, CEO of DarkSolar Corporation of Denver, CO. Dr. Archer is an Astrobiologist, a former US Naval Officer and functioned as an Environmental Modeling Scientist for NOAA at USC. Mr. Ron Stewart is an expert in sonar radiometry and digital imaging technology and functions as team’s Chief Optical Physicist.


The team has recommended deployment of a technology invented and patented by Dr. DeBrucq, US Patent# 0041700, named Liquid Nitrogen Enabler, that uses liquid nitrogen to extinguish house fires, coal mine fires, wildfires, to treat oil spills, to neutralize unexploded Ordnance (IED’s) and to recover spilled toxic chemicals.

The team’s recommendations include employment of a proprietary procedure that would enable the leaking well head and portion of the upper well head and descending well casing to be frozen, effectively stopping the flow of oil from the well within minutes.


The in-situ freezing process, which can be repeated time and again, affords a sustained window of opportunity during which repairs can either be made to the damaged areas of the well head assembly or the well head can be capped. “It’s absolutely essential that the release of free product be halted as quickly as possible preventing certain devastation to the Gulf States”, Dr. Resnick said. He continued, “We can deal with the cleanup later, but the primary objective must be to stop that release of free product”. Dr. DeBrucq said, “Either procedure will effectively stop the release of free product into the Gulf of Mexico, and this could be accomplished in as little as 24 hours”.


According to Dr. DeBrucq, inventor of the Nitrogen Enabler Technology and deployment processes designer, “The approach would include placement of a specialized apparatus into the well head/pipe which would result in formation of a plug comprising the crude oil, the actual well head and casing. The nitrogen enabler process is capable of being deployed and descended, downward, to any desired depth inside the actual well casing. This method would effectively stop the flow of crude oil and would enable deployment of ROV-submersibles to effectuate permanent repairs or to simply cap the well head”.


Other team members, Dr. Archer and Mr. Stewart, have undertaken computer modeling and radiometric analyses of the overall disaster site with a view toward implementing the team’s plan to utilize bioremediation products invented by Dr. Resnick to mitigate effects of the spill as soon as the flow of oil is stopped. Dr. Resnick’s bioremediation products were first used during the Exxon Valdez Crash which occurred in 1989 in Prince Edward Sound near Valdez, AK and are listed on the National Contingency Plan Product Schedule as required under 40 CFR Part B. and are authorized for use by the On-Scene Coordinator.


The oil spill cleanup products, PRP, Bio-Boom, Bio-Sok, Well Boom and Oil-Buster, subject of US Patent 5,807,724, were developed in collaboration with NASA JPL and NASA Goddard Space Center and were featured in NASA Spinoff Magazine in September, 1994 cover story.
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they are pulling at straws


that is my main concern

3 weeks in and no real plan
You need to figure it out !
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Gee, I hope they are using solar and wind technology to cap that leak
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"... There's a maximum amount that they can be held accountable for.



Greetings,

That assumes no negligence on their part.



It will be difficult to prove negligence when they were not operating the rig.

Besides, I'm not sure that's true. Do you have a link? I did not know there was a qualification.

I thought there was just a max set.
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Hi,

The "cap" is specific to "economic damages". That can be described as such things as loss of profit to Seaside Business and the like.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You can start with this link to get an idea.

Regards

JimmyK
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Why can't they simply drop a bunch of concrete debris on top of the leak until it's plugged?
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Has the President even responded to the crisis??
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Yes,

He had AF1 filled up and the tanks topped off.
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suppose ther oil slick closes the New Orleans port?
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If it closes Houston, Mobile Bay, Corpus Christi, Tampa, etc too, I think that's exactly what the SOBs want---then they can divert ships to the Mexican port of Tampico and truck shipments up to the US Remember last week the little weasel-in-chief announced that he's allowing Mexican truckers to come into the US again.
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the solution to pollution is dilution,


no, seriously,
Christ caused the BIG SPILL,
because usa (obama) tried to destroy Israel,
with the ROADMAP TO PEACE,
which reduces Israel's size, to (supposedly) make it easier to annhilate,

we're incredibly wicked , to annhilate GOD'S CHOSEN NATION, ISRAEL,

we abandoned Israel to the muslim wolves,
so, Christ whacked us,

CHRIST IS WARNING US OF OUR SOON-DESTRUCTION,,,,,,,GULF OF OIL AND METHANE = LAKE OF FIRE,,,,,,

recently, obama is trying to topple netanyahu's govt,
so, Christ will topple usa and obama,

Christ will destroy us to save His Nation, Israel,
not because Israel is good (they ain't good),
but because the GOD OF ISRAEL IS DEFENDING HIS NAME,

Mat 15:31 Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.


we're in the ENDTIMES,
when the whole world hates Christ,
even most churches are apostate, preaching ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED, ETERNAL SECURITY, HERESY, CALVINISM, PRESBYTERIAN,

the divorce rate in the churches is the same as outside the churches,
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I wonder... when the oil spill reaches the beaches of west palm, maybe I can somehow suck up the oil from the water and process it into diesel... hrmn, free fuel...

to the drawing board!
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Why can't they simply drop a bunch of concrete debris on top of the leak until it's plugged?
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That would make BP GETTING THE OIL difficult, wouldn't it?
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They can spend trillions on how to drill for oil , yet their smart people can not come up with a way to plug a oil leak.
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Because no one could have ever even imagined that something like this could happen!
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Why can't they drill along side the wreck?
Why can't they funnel it into a pipe that brings it to the surface for collection? Is it freezing because of the methane?
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the solution to pollution is dilution,


no, seriously,
Christ caused the BIG SPILL,
because usa (obama) tried to destroy Israel,
with the ROADMAP TO PEACE,
which reduces Israel's size, to (supposedly) make it easier to annhilate,

we're incredibly wicked , to annhilate GOD'S CHOSEN NATION, ISRAEL,

we abandoned Israel to the muslim wolves,
so, Christ whacked us,

CHRIST IS WARNING US OF OUR SOON-DESTRUCTION,,,,,,,GULF OF OIL AND METHANE = LAKE OF FIRE,,,,,,

recently, obama is trying to topple netanyahu's govt,
so, Christ will topple usa and obama,

Christ will destroy us to save His Nation, Israel,
not because Israel is good (they ain't good),
but because the GOD OF ISRAEL IS DEFENDING HIS NAME,

Mat 15:31 Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.


we're in the ENDTIMES,
when the whole world hates Christ,
even most churches are apostate, preaching ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED, ETERNAL SECURITY, HERESY, CALVINISM, PRESBYTERIAN,

the divorce rate in the churches is the same as outside the churches,
 Quoting: dennis 931797


As a Christian, please, shut the hell up. Yer not a prophet and you don't speak for God or Christ. So to say He caused it is ridiculuous... maybe He did, maybe He didn't. Sometimes the so called "Christians" of this day and age (and usually ALL Americans) make me sick. Everyone speaks for God now, and is "in the know" of what He is doing next.

That's why I follow God, through Christ, on my own - because you, sir, are the kind of people that drove me out of the churches I tried to use for fellowship.
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Why can't they simply drop a bunch of concrete debris on top of the leak until it's plugged?
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because it is a 40,000 psi geyser. It is like trying to clog a small water fountain with broken glass. Even if they could cover the leak with a mountain of concrete it would still find a way out and then it would be impossible to fix.


A nuclear blast about 200 feet below the seafloor seems to be the only way. But how do you get a nuclear bomb 200ft below the seafloor that is 5000ft in depth?
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They can spend trillions on how to drill for oil , yet their smart people can not come up with a way to plug a oil leak.


Because no one could have ever even imagined that something like this could happen!
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IF NASA CAN FAKE A MOON-LANDING,
WE CAN FAKE A LEAK-PLUG
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British Petroleum better get off their ass.
Wake Up
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I received this email today from the United States Coast Guard, very reassuring... rolleyes


SUGGESTIONS

What is being done with submitted suggestions?

Throughout the ongoing response efforts thousands of people across the globe have offered their ideas for stopping the flow of oil into the Gulf, containing or recovering it, or cleaning it up.

BP has established a process to receive and review submitted suggestions, on how to stop the flow of oil or contain the spill emanating from the Mississippi Canyon 252 well. Proposals are reviewed for their technical feasibility and proof of application.

More than 4,800 ideas have been proposed to date. Given this quantity of technical proposals suggested by industry professionals and the public, it may take some time to technically review each one.

All proposals submitted through the process defined below will be reviewed.
Failure to follow the process below will likely delay proposed solutions from being reviewed.

If you want to offer suggestions by phone:
Please call 281.366.5511. After each call, the caller will be sent a simple form to provide details. When the caller completes and submits this form, the proposal is sent to BP technical personnel for review.

If you want to offer suggestions online:
A suggestion submission form is available at: [link to www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com] Follow instructions on the form.

For most timely review, please use this process to submit your suggestion.

What happens with your proposal?

All proposals are reviewed for technical feasibility and application. Given the volume of proposals, this may take some time. A reply will be sent via email or fax to each caller informing them of the technical review outcome.

Feasible solutions will be forwarded for additional consideration. Callers whose ideas are considered feasible will be advised by email that we will contact them if and when their support is needed.
Unified Command thanks each submitter for their interest and willingness to share their ideas.

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What happened to the old Ice?
At least he could put together coherent sentences?
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The poor prick might be suffering brain damage from inhaling benzene from the crude oil, or he might be posting while drunk, from a whorehouse.
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"They're actually going to take a bunch of debris, shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that and under very high pressure shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak," Allen, who is leading the US government's response, told CBS's "Face the Nation."


this is what I am talking about

this is the kind of thing you do when you are grabbing for straws!!!

ice




This could be risky as experts have warned that excessive tinkering with the blowout preventer -- a huge 450-ton valve system that should have shut off the oil -- could see crude shoot out unchecked at 12 times the current rate.

There are also fears the slick, which covers an area of about 2,000 square miles (5,200 square kilometers), could be carried around the Florida peninsula if it spreads far enough south to be picked up by a special current.

"If this gusher continues for several months, it's going to cover up the Gulf coast and it's going to get down into the loop current and that's going to take it down the Florida Keys and up the east coast of Florida," warned Florida senator Bill Nelson.
 Quoting: Ice


So I was right even tough it does not say it, it's going to follow the gulf stram current that happen to be just in the described path, what he does not say is once in the east cost of florida it will continue and follow the gulf stream to europe.
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dennis, you are correct. Wait until the 3rd Solar Eclipse on Av 1 (our July 11th this year) occurs. Solar Eclipses are a warning to the Gentile nations.

God has warned the world on Av 1, 2008, Av 1, 2009, and now 3rd and final warning.

July is going to be interesting on through the fall it will get worse as God reveals who is really in control of this planet and it's not man.

Watch September around the Feast of Trumpets. The world will be turned upside down as "destruction comes on them suddenly."
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May 10th satellite photo. (big)

[link to www.nasa.gov]
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Just wondering if someone could maybe outline where the oil slick is on this pic and re-up? Im just a little confused as to how big it actually is. Thanks in advance...
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Why can't they simply drop a bunch of concrete debris on top of the leak until it's plugged?


because it is a 40,000 psi geyser. It is like trying to clog a small water fountain with broken glass. Even if they could cover the leak with a mountain of concrete it would still find a way out and then it would be impossible to fix.


A nuclear blast about 200 feet below the seafloor seems to be the only way. But how do you get a nuclear bomb 200ft below the seafloor that is 5000ft in depth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 792302


The problem seems to be that the soil in that part is friable... the pression will find coutless other escapes even if they manage to close the main one, this is gonna end when the whole reservoir of oil and methane is empty.
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I insist the oil go to Slidell. Then it can stop.
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And hope for the good of us all that once that cavern is empty it doesnt collapse causing a mega tsunami and earth quakes.
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Ice...how far are you from a coastline? Curious.


Louisiana coast is a little hard to define

about 80 miles

:home cajun:
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We were in Long Beach Mississippi(Mississippi Sound) today terrible smell. I Live 5 miles from Gulf Shores, Al have not smelled anything or seen anything here.
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dennis, you are correct. Wait until the 3rd Solar Eclipse on Av 1 (our July 11th this year) occurs. Solar Eclipses are a warning to the Gentile nations.

God has warned the world on Av 1, 2008, Av 1, 2009, and now 3rd and final warning.

July is going to be interesting on through the fall it will get worse as God reveals who is really in control of this planet and it's not man.

Watch September around the Feast of Trumpets. The world will be turned upside down as "destruction comes on them suddenly."
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thanks, so much,
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THREE CONSECUTIVE SOLAR ECLIPSES ON AV 1Back to Messianic Jewish Fellowship
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Displaying all 4 posts.Meshawn Not sure if everyone is aware of this fact, but there are three solar eclipses which are occurring three years in a row on the 1st day of the Jewish month of Av. The first two occurred Av 1, 2008 (which was the Gregorian calendar date of July 31) and Av 1, 2009 (which was the Gregorian calendar date of July 22). The 3rd one will occur again on Av 1 of this year, 2010 (which will be the Gregorian calendar date of July 11).

This is significant because never before have there been three solar eclipses three years in a row on the same calendar date. Of note is that God chose the same JEWISH calendar date to have these eclipses fall on. Also of note is that Av 1 is the first day of the nine-day period of mourning that ends on the Ninth of Av (Tisha B’Av) – the day that the first and second Jewish temples were destroyed, although hundreds of years apart. Other catastrophes befell the Jewish people on the Ninth of Av, as well.

So, what could be the significance of having three solar eclipses fall on the exact same Jewish calendar date three years in a row? Any thoughts?

February 24 at 5:37pm
Marilyn I am stunned
March 5 at 10:53pm
Marc A Lunar Tetrad is a sequence of 4 total lunar eclipses falling in an unbroken sequence. It is extremely rare. A total lunar eclipse is known as a ‘blood moon’ because of its deep red color. You had a tetrach of lunar eclipses 1492, 1493 and 1494 appearing on God's Holy days
1493 Apr. 2 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1493 Sep. 25 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles
1494 Mar. 22 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1494 Sep. 15 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles

There was a total solar eclipse in 2nd November 1491 falling near Kislev.

So what happened in 1492. Well good and bad. The good is that Christopher Columbus, a Jewish convert to Christianity, set out and discovered the new world of the Americas. Christopher means "Christ bearer" associated with a Middle ages parable of a Saint who carried Christ over the water. The surname Columbus is a Spanish name derived from the Jewish prophet Jonah both of which means "dove" - Prophet Jonah is the one who travelled in a ship across the ocean to bring God's message to the people of Ninevah. Is that not strange?

The bad is that Pope Alexander VI, the most evil Pope in Catholic history, murdered and bribed himself a seat into the papacy and was elected on Tisha B'AV 1492 (11th August 1492). At the same time on the same date, the Inquisition called by the total expulsion of all Jews from Spain. What followed were uninmaginable torture and horror at the hands of the Inquisition as up to 9 million Christians were tortured and killed from trumped-up charges of heresy to witchcraft throughout Europe (almost equal to the 9 million Christians who were murdered in the former Christian Byzantine Empire which was conquered by the Muslims by 1453).

BLOOD RED MOON ON SAVUOT (Pentacost) 1453
The Fall of Constantinople is also quite interesting. The Muslims started the siege led by Mehmed II on Passover, and finally overan the city as a blood red moon lunar eclipse rose on May 22 1453 on the Jewish sacred day of Savuot (known to Christians as Pentacost). The fall of Constantinople signalled the end of Christianity as the majority religion in the Middle East, as the whole region converted to Islam becomming known as the Ottoman Empire.

WORLD WAR I
World War I was declared on Tisha B'Av 1914. There was a total Solar Eclipse in October 17th the previous year in 1913 on Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles).
This followed another total solar eclipse passing through Europe on the 21st of August 1914 when the war was in full swing, just one day before Rosh Chodesh Elul. World War I was the precursor and catalyst to World War II.

BIRTH OF ISRAEL

Other Major Event involving eclipses occured when Israel become a Nation in 1948.
Year Feast
1949 Apr. 13 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1949 Oct. 7 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles
1950 Apr. 2 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1950 Sep. 26 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles

6 Days War – Israel takes control of Jerusalem in 1967.
Year Feast
1967 Apr. 24 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1967 Oct. 18 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles
1968 Apr. 13 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1968 Oct. 6 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles


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March 26 at 5:35am
Meshawn Thanks for posting this information, Marc.

It's really awesome how God chooses Jewish feast days on which to place these eclipses. I believe it's to get the world's attention -- to let them know that He has not forgotten the nation of Israel.

Of interest, there is another set of upcoming consecutive total lunar eclipses (tetrads) which will occur on Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles two years in a row, just as they did in 1949-50 and 1967-68. As you listed above, very significant events happened in Israel during these times. Israel became a nation (1948) and Jerusalem came under Jewish control once again (1967). Here's the next set of 4 lunar eclipses that will happen -- very soon, I might add. I wonder what significant event will happen then? As you also mentioned, Marc, lunar eclipses are known as "blood moons." Definitely something to think about, considering we are more than likely living in the end times.

2014 Apr 15 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
2014 Oct 8 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles
2015 Apr 4 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
2015 Sep 28 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles

Also, for your viewing enjoyment, here's a BBC video of last year's solar eclipse. You can actually see a Star of David emerging from behind the moon as the eclipse is nearing its end. Another sign to the world that God hasn't forgotten Israel? I'd like to think so. Here's the clip. And you can clearly see the Star of David at around minute 02:20. Enjoy!

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]





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Wasn't there some prophesy or other that said the seas turning black is a sign of the end times?
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There are 'prophesies' somewhere saying just about anything. That's how they 'work'.
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dennis, you are correct. Wait until the 3rd Solar Eclipse on Av 1 (our July 11th this year) occurs. Solar Eclipses are a warning to the Gentile nations.

God has warned the world on Av 1, 2008, Av 1, 2009, and now 3rd and final warning.

July is going to be interesting on through the fall it will get worse as God reveals who is really in control of this planet and it's not man.

Watch September around the Feast of Trumpets. The world will be turned upside down as "destruction comes on them suddenly."


thanks, so much,
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THREE CONSECUTIVE SOLAR ECLIPSES ON AV 1Back to Messianic Jewish Fellowship
Discussion BoardTopic ViewTopic: THREE CONSECUTIVE SOLAR ECLIPSES ON AV 1
Displaying all 4 posts.Meshawn Not sure if everyone is aware of this fact, but there are three solar eclipses which are occurring three years in a row on the 1st day of the Jewish month of Av. The first two occurred Av 1, 2008 (which was the Gregorian calendar date of July 31) and Av 1, 2009 (which was the Gregorian calendar date of July 22). The 3rd one will occur again on Av 1 of this year, 2010 (which will be the Gregorian calendar date of July 11).

This is significant because never before have there been three solar eclipses three years in a row on the same calendar date. Of note is that God chose the same JEWISH calendar date to have these eclipses fall on. Also of note is that Av 1 is the first day of the nine-day period of mourning that ends on the Ninth of Av (Tisha B’Av) – the day that the first and second Jewish temples were destroyed, although hundreds of years apart. Other catastrophes befell the Jewish people on the Ninth of Av, as well.

So, what could be the significance of having three solar eclipses fall on the exact same Jewish calendar date three years in a row? Any thoughts?

February 24 at 5:37pm
Marilyn I am stunned
March 5 at 10:53pm
Marc A Lunar Tetrad is a sequence of 4 total lunar eclipses falling in an unbroken sequence. It is extremely rare. A total lunar eclipse is known as a ‘blood moon’ because of its deep red color. You had a tetrach of lunar eclipses 1492, 1493 and 1494 appearing on God's Holy days
1493 Apr. 2 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1493 Sep. 25 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles
1494 Mar. 22 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1494 Sep. 15 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles

There was a total solar eclipse in 2nd November 1491 falling near Kislev.

So what happened in 1492. Well good and bad. The good is that Christopher Columbus, a Jewish convert to Christianity, set out and discovered the new world of the Americas. Christopher means "Christ bearer" associated with a Middle ages parable of a Saint who carried Christ over the water. The surname Columbus is a Spanish name derived from the Jewish prophet Jonah both of which means "dove" - Prophet Jonah is the one who travelled in a ship across the ocean to bring God's message to the people of Ninevah. Is that not strange?

The bad is that Pope Alexander VI, the most evil Pope in Catholic history, murdered and bribed himself a seat into the papacy and was elected on Tisha B'AV 1492 (11th August 1492). At the same time on the same date, the Inquisition called by the total expulsion of all Jews from Spain. What followed were uninmaginable torture and horror at the hands of the Inquisition as up to 9 million Christians were tortured and killed from trumped-up charges of heresy to witchcraft throughout Europe (almost equal to the 9 million Christians who were murdered in the former Christian Byzantine Empire which was conquered by the Muslims by 1453).

BLOOD RED MOON ON SAVUOT (Pentacost) 1453
The Fall of Constantinople is also quite interesting. The Muslims started the siege led by Mehmed II on Passover, and finally overan the city as a blood red moon lunar eclipse rose on May 22 1453 on the Jewish sacred day of Savuot (known to Christians as Pentacost). The fall of Constantinople signalled the end of Christianity as the majority religion in the Middle East, as the whole region converted to Islam becomming known as the Ottoman Empire.

WORLD WAR I
World War I was declared on Tisha B'Av 1914. There was a total Solar Eclipse in October 17th the previous year in 1913 on Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles).
This followed another total solar eclipse passing through Europe on the 21st of August 1914 when the war was in full swing, just one day before Rosh Chodesh Elul. World War I was the precursor and catalyst to World War II.

BIRTH OF ISRAEL

Other Major Event involving eclipses occured when Israel become a Nation in 1948.
Year Feast
1949 Apr. 13 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1949 Oct. 7 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles
1950 Apr. 2 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1950 Sep. 26 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles

6 Days War – Israel takes control of Jerusalem in 1967.
Year Feast
1967 Apr. 24 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1967 Oct. 18 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles
1968 Apr. 13 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
1968 Oct. 6 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles


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March 26 at 5:35am
Meshawn Thanks for posting this information, Marc.

It's really awesome how God chooses Jewish feast days on which to place these eclipses. I believe it's to get the world's attention -- to let them know that He has not forgotten the nation of Israel.

Of interest, there is another set of upcoming consecutive total lunar eclipses (tetrads) which will occur on Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles two years in a row, just as they did in 1949-50 and 1967-68. As you listed above, very significant events happened in Israel during these times. Israel became a nation (1948) and Jerusalem came under Jewish control once again (1967). Here's the next set of 4 lunar eclipses that will happen -- very soon, I might add. I wonder what significant event will happen then? As you also mentioned, Marc, lunar eclipses are known as "blood moons." Definitely something to think about, considering we are more than likely living in the end times.

2014 Apr 15 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
2014 Oct 8 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles
2015 Apr 4 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Passover
2015 Sep 28 Total Lunar Eclipse Feast of Tabernacles

Also, for your viewing enjoyment, here's a BBC video of last year's solar eclipse. You can actually see a Star of David emerging from behind the moon as the eclipse is nearing its end. Another sign to the world that God hasn't forgotten Israel? I'd like to think so. Here's the clip. And you can clearly see the Star of David at around minute 02:20. Enjoy!

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]





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