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New fear in the Gulf

 
Son of John
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This is how the prophesied Great Lake of Fire comes into existance.
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I insist the oil go to Slidell. Then it can stop.
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Bah anyone if there is a solution should just do it, this is not gonna end well wherever you live you have interest to stop it for so many reasons not just oil pollution and deaths of marine life but also to possible climate changes this could bring thousand miles from there.-
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05/11/2010 02:47 PM
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the solution to pollution is dilution,


no, seriously,
Christ caused the BIG SPILL,
because usa (obama) tried to destroy Israel,
with the ROADMAP TO PEACE,
which reduces Israel's size, to (supposedly) make it easier to annhilate,

we're incredibly wicked , to annhilate GOD'S CHOSEN NATION, ISRAEL,

we abandoned Israel to the muslim wolves,
so, Christ whacked us,

CHRIST IS WARNING US OF OUR SOON-DESTRUCTION,,,,,,,GULF OF OIL AND METHANE = LAKE OF FIRE,,,,,,

recently, obama is trying to topple netanyahu's govt,
so, Christ will topple usa and obama,

Christ will destroy us to save His Nation, Israel,
not because Israel is good (they ain't good),
but because the GOD OF ISRAEL IS DEFENDING HIS NAME,

Mat 15:31 Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.


we're in the ENDTIMES,
when the whole world hates Christ,
even most churches are apostate, preaching ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED, ETERNAL SECURITY, HERESY, CALVINISM, PRESBYTERIAN,

the divorce rate in the churches is the same as outside the churches,
 Quoting: dennis 931797

God's wrath is upon America for sure.

In my opinion, Obama is an arrogant heathen...he's the latter day Egyptian Pharoe who has hardened his heart toward God and His chosen people.
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05/11/2010 02:48 PM
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suppose ther oil slick closes the New Orleans port?


If it closes Houston, Mobile Bay, Corpus Christi, Tampa, etc too, I think that's exactly what the SOBs want---then they can divert ships to the Mexican port of Tampico and truck shipments up to the US Remember last week the little weasel-in-chief announced that he's allowing Mexican truckers to come into the US again.
 Quoting: Anonymous 750018

Not happening yet, BUT, The closing of the N.O. port is in the contingency plans:
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"The oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is currently not affecting the Port of New Orleans or traffic on the Mississippi river, but the Coast Guard is monitoring the situation closely. As reported in a Boston Globe article, the Coast Guard must prepare for “a sudden course shift that could push the thick gunk into the shipping channel of the Mississippi River.”"

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Thread: ***UPDATE*** OIL SPILL IS EQUAL PARTS METHANE AND OIL *** OIL SPILL METHANE WILL TURN THE OCEANS TO ACID and could make the ATMOSPHERE IGNITE???? DOO

Check it out Ice; I started a thread on the possible consequences of the released methane. It's pretty bad.
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05/11/2010 02:53 PM
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Why can't they simply drop a bunch of concrete debris on top of the leak until it's plugged?


because it is a 40,000 psi geyser. It is like trying to clog a small water fountain with broken glass. Even if they could cover the leak with a mountain of concrete it would still find a way out and then it would be impossible to fix.


A nuclear blast about 200 feet below the seafloor seems to be the only way. But how do you get a nuclear bomb 200ft below the seafloor that is 5000ft in depth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 792302

You poor, sick phuck!

Do you really want them to detonate a nuclear device down there and cause that huge cavern of methane to ignite?

It will collapse the sea floor and possibly cause a continental shift!
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This is how the prophesied Great Lake of Fire comes into existance.
 Quoting: Son of John 900491


the lake of fire is not a prophecy dumb ass. Its a mythilological place naughty people go.
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I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore. Time to picket BP, and the white house. Bastards. Mother Earth is really pissed off, she's not done w/ us yet.
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05/11/2010 02:54 PM
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recently, DEAN COOMBS (SHEKEL) told us
SOON, ISRAEL will suffer a second holocaust, worse than hitler's,

but Israel nation will survive (as a nation),,,and Israel nation will serve God FOREVER in the promised land

www.bible-codes.org

today's catastrophes are partly because God is punishing the nations for their part in this coming holocaust,

notice how the whole world hates Israel, and loves the antichrist muslims
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recently, DEAN COOMBS (SHEKEL) told us
SOON, ISRAEL will suffer a second holocaust, worse than hitler's,

but Israel nation will survive (as a nation),,,and Israel nation will serve God FOREVER in the promised land

www.bible-codes.org

today's catastrophes are partly because God is punishing the nations for their part in this coming holocaust,

notice how the whole world hates Israel, and loves the antichrist muslims
 Quoting: dennis 931797


stfu
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Thread: ***UPDATE*** OIL SPILL IS EQUAL PARTS METHANE AND OIL *** OIL SPILL METHANE WILL TURN THE OCEANS TO ACID and could make the ATMOSPHERE IGNITE???? DOO

Check it out Ice; I started a thread on the possible consequences of the released methane. It's pretty bad.
 Quoting: Riker



I am worried that we have done something in a place that we can't undo!

that is my main concern


this could be as bad as anything that has ever happened to the planet in the last 6000 years!


it has that major of a down side
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Call me stupid but...


Why the fuck don't they just put a large circular floating boon around the entire drill site?

Why they got to case the oil all over the place when 99% of it comes up less than a mile from the well?

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05/11/2010 02:58 PM
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If they can't stop it, when will the world demand that it be sealed permanently with a nuke? Will BP fight to the end to keep it open, so they can recoup their losses while it produces destruction on a biblical scale? Will it come down to burning every BP station and besieging their corporate offices?
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05/11/2010 02:59 PM
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I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore. Time to picket BP, and the white house. Bastards. Mother Earth is really pissed off, she's not done w/ us yet.
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05/11/2010 03:01 PM
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Wasn't there some prophesy or other that said the seas turning black is a sign of the end times?


There are 'prophesies' somewhere saying just about anything. That's how they 'work'.
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I suppose we don't need a prophecy to tell us you are an ignorant shit... that much is obvious.
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05/11/2010 03:02 PM
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I wish you people would get off the religious crap.
God has nothing to do with it.

If natural disasters ar god's doing,
How about a couple times in recent years a church was struck by lightening and burned to the ground. Was god telling you he didn't want you to go to that church or what?
Surely he wouldn't have burnded down the "house" dedicated to him would he? No one was hurt, so he wasn't punishing anyone.
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05/11/2010 03:04 PM
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good info

old but good



15000 ft - 6000 psi

that is what I was looking for

300 degree F



major problems

well head at 5000 foot of water 2200 psi of head


but top works see 20000 ft of pressure with mud at counter-balance!


but kick blew out all the mud!!!!




this is bad
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Foolish man has created his own Extinction Level Event!
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If they can't stop it, when will the world demand that it be sealed permanently with a nuke? Will BP fight to the end to keep it open, so they can recoup their losses while it produces destruction on a biblical scale? Will it come down to burning every BP station and besieging their corporate offices?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 851213



a nuke will not seal it


they are concerned about a crack now


don't you understand anything about pressure
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suppose ther oil slick closes the New Orleans port?


If it closes Houston, Mobile Bay, Corpus Christi, Tampa, etc too, I think that's exactly what the SOBs want---then they can divert ships to the Mexican port of Tampico and truck shipments up to the US Remember last week the little weasel-in-chief announced that he's allowing Mexican truckers to come into the US again.

Not happening yet, BUT, The closing of the N.O. port is in the contingency plans:
....

"The oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is currently not affecting the Port of New Orleans or traffic on the Mississippi river, but the Coast Guard is monitoring the situation closely. As reported in a Boston Globe article, the Coast Guard must prepare for “a sudden course shift that could push the thick gunk into the shipping channel of the Mississippi River.”"

[link to logisticsviewpoints.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967377

Closing the ports of New Orleans will be a last resort, but it could happen. Guess it depends on where the oil slick goes.

"The Port of South Louisiana, based in the New Orleans suburb of LaPlace, handles 199 million short tons. The two combined form the largest port system in the world . (wikipedia)

The port handles more trade with Latin America than does any other U.S. gateway, including Miami."
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Thread: ***UPDATE*** OIL SPILL IS EQUAL PARTS METHANE AND OIL *** OIL SPILL METHANE WILL TURN THE OCEANS TO ACID and could make the ATMOSPHERE IGNITE???? DOO

Check it out Ice; I started a thread on the possible consequences of the released methane. It's pretty bad.




I am worried that we have done something in a place that we can't undo!
that is my main concern
this could be as bad as anything that has ever happened to the planet in the last 6000 years!
it has that major of a down side
 Quoting: Ice


I hear you... I'm worried about that too. The oil was bad enough... but researching this methane release has me very concerned.
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Re: New fear in the Gulf
Many folk that have contacts are telling me that BP has no working plan to stop the oil flow.

I am starting to think that what is bad know is only the beginning of worst. I know it sounds like just Doom talk but if you listen to what is being said you will notice a lack of any workable plan.

A failure of the well head works is still a major concern which would move the flow from 200,000 gallons daily to 1,000,000 gallons plus a day.
 Quoting: Ice



Hello Ice, good topic.

I just wanted to say that Halliburton which is one of the three companies involved in this massive spill is owned or partly owned by Dick Cheney, a puppet for thpb.

Regards
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Was at the beach today on Manasota Key in SWFL, and I didn't smell any oil. It was very beautiful. Got there at slack tide, and it was almost surreal. Very calm and relaxing.
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It's a bad situation...very bad...from what I understand there is a "New leak" at the top of the Blow Out Protector where the riser couples on and apparently it's bent over...this was probably inevitable as the rush of oil and gas erodes the whole well connection system away...from what I also can see...BP has about plans A-...to well..until...the whole thing tears apart and they just get more and more risky as it goes...

A was the larger containment Macondome....that failed because the gas formed hydrates/ice crystals and clogged it. They underestimated the amount of the gas in the flow...for some reason the brain that ran the Blow out protector which could sense all that was a dead stick....BP recovered it and was attempting to re-program repair it last I heard...

B is this "Top Hat" deal...just a smaller version of the dome which they will also blast methanol down into to stop the formation of ice...both of these are spill/loss mitigation, they do nothing to stop the well from from blowing out oil...

C Would be this "Junk Shot"...where they attempt to blast a bunch of junk into the Blow Out protector and clog it up...

D would be to chop off the upper portion of the bop stack at the riser connection and install a new blow out protector on top of the old one..then shut it off...

All through the whole thing I assume they have attempted to activate the giant rams that could shut it down...all attempts have failed...

I read a detailed account from someone who apparently was there...it would seem the AP has confirmed that much of it is indeed true...it was an e-mail sent around to some industry insider type people and it details pretty well what happened and the writer wished to remain anon....I'll post it, but it pretty much confirms what most of have said, just in more detail....

The bottom is that this is a wild animal now....and it's getting more and more angry and smashing at it's cage and bolts are starting to get loose and bars are starting to bend....the writer fears that even if BP can stop the flow at the blow out protector that the well system itself is so damaged that it is possible the connection of that massive blow out protector would just shred itself off it's connection before the well control guys can pump enough cement and high density "mud" down the well bore and stop it up below the sea floor....and likely IMO that area already MUST be damaged, but that if it blows out around that connection area?....the whole thing comes unglued and wide...fuckin...open....then NOTHING will stop it except the relief wells....and those will take months to drill...

BP is doing all they can right now...but I assume they are very afraid this whole this may cut loose...if that happens....this will be the worst case scenerio...

I do believe they are very tentative about taking high risk shots at killing this thing that have a greater chance of causing that....but they are running out of time....when they get to the junk shot and placing the new bop on this thing....they are going balls out at it because these are risky moves...the new bop far more risky than the junk clogger...because to do that?....they have to literally saw the pipe connection off the thing and the pipe is restricting the flow now...so it's going to be spewing a whole lot more oil and gas when they do that because it'll be very near wide open...
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Surely a time traveller from the future can tell us what to do...oh wait, perhaps we don't make it that far into the future and we extinct ourselves before we can discover time travel.....that puts paid to the time travelling barstards on GLP then
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Call me stupid but...


Why the fuck don't they just put a large circular floating boon around the entire drill site?

Why they got to case the oil all over the place when 99% of it comes up less than a mile from the well?

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 Quoting: SIR STUPID 962242


I'm no genius either, but this makes sense to me. Why don't they do something like this?
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Was at the beach today on Manasota Key in SWFL, and I didn't smell any oil. It was very beautiful. Got there at slack tide, and it was almost surreal. Very calm and relaxing.
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I know

nothing better


hope it stays that way for you
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with all that pressure behind the wellhead-does anyone think there is even a wellhead left and not a gaping 50-foot hole spewing oil?
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Call me stupid but...


Why the fuck don't they just put a large circular floating boon around the entire drill site?

Why they got to case the oil all over the place when 99% of it comes up less than a mile from the well?

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I'm no genius either, but this makes sense to me. Why don't they do something like this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945031


Underwater currents perhaps...just a guess but maybe
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Re: New fear in the Gulf
recently, DEAN COOMBS (SHEKEL) told us
SOON, ISRAEL will suffer a second holocaust, worse than hitler's,

but Israel nation will survive (as a nation),,,and Israel nation will serve God FOREVER in the promised land

www.bible-codes.org

today's catastrophes are partly because God is punishing the nations for their part in this coming holocaust,

notice how the whole world hates Israel, and loves the antichrist muslims


stfu
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yall just can't handle REAL doom tounge





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