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Obama's SCOTUS pick Kagan says 1st Amendment rights not valid if speech "offends" Government

 
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Obama's SCOTUS pick Kagan says 1st Amendment rights not valid if speech "offends" Government
Posted: May 10, 2010
9:10 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein
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Elena Kagan

NEW YORK – President Obama's nominee for the Supreme Court, Elena Kagan, argued certain forms of speech that promote "racial or gender inequality" could be "disappeared."

In her few academic papers, Kagan evidences strong beliefs for court intervention in speech, going so far as to posit First Amendment speech should be weighed against "societal costs.”

In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

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In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and … actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."

Kagan's academic writings are sparse – just nine articles, two of which are book reviews.

Her stand on free speech could become a hot button issue as the Senate convenes to confirm her. If approved, Kagan would give the high court three women justices for the first time. She would be the youngest member on the current court and the first justice in nearly four decades without any prior judicial experience.

WND has reported that in her undergraduate thesis at Princeton, Kagan lamented the decline of socialism in the country as "sad" for those who still hope to "change America."

WND also reported Kagan has advocated for an increased presidential role in regulation, which, she conceded, would make such affairs more and more an extension of the president's own policy and political agenda.

Kagan was nominated as U.S. solicitor general by Obama in January and confirmed by the Senate in March. She was a dean of Harvard Law School and previously served alongside Obama as a professor of law at the University of Chicago.

A former clerk to Abner Mikva at the D.C. federal appeals court, Kagan was heavily involved in promoting the health-care policy of the Clinton administration.

Obama praised her because while he said a "judge's job is to interpret the law, not make the law," she has evidenced a "keen understanding of the impact of the law on people's lives."

The president said she has a "firm grasp on the nexus and boundaries between our three branches of government."

But more importantly, she understands, "behind the law there are stories, stories of people's lives," Obama said.

Kagan said the law is "endlessly interesting" and also "protects the most fundamental rights and freedoms."

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Shes done.

Next.
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Damned carpet muncher!!!
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"Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government."



Well, why even speak then?
Geese, that is really a joke of a nomination, if these sort of quotes from her are really true..
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Shes done.

Next.
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Watch her nomination sail through Committee and Congress.
We're totally effin' doomed as a country.
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How's this for freedom of speech? Fuck Kagan.
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How's this for freedom of speech? Fuck Kagan.
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lmao
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Obammy has FILLED every position with UN-American creeps, and he will NOT stop, until he is removed from office.

All Congressmen and Senators of both parties should be actively discussing impeachment proceedings, before this nightmare goes any further.
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See, this is where I think I might be a really bad person and going to hell.

When I see her picture, I think of that movie Something About Mary. Mary's "special" brother was always running around hitting people in the balls and yelling - "Franks and beans, beans and franks"

She looks just like him.

ANYWAY, I can't believe no one took her to Glamor Shots or something to get a decent picture before they started the nomination process.

It's bad.
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ouncsam

I WANT YOU!

TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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See, this is where I think I might be a really bad person and going to hell.

When I see her picture, I think of that movie Something About Mary. Mary's "special" brother was always running around hitting people in the balls and yelling - "Franks and beans, beans and franks"

She looks just like him.

ANYWAY, I can't believe no one took her to Glamor Shots or something to get a decent picture before they started the nomination process.

It's bad.
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Pretty tough to polish that turd, AC.

Hey, Kagan. Here's some speech you won't much like. As far as I know, the 1st Amendment is still in effect, so before you start burning books, and diappearing people for thought crimes...

FUCK YOU AND FUCK OBAMA!

Come and get me, bitch.
Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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Hey, Kagan. Here's some speech you won't much like. As far as I know, the 1st Amendment is still in effect, so before you start burning books, and diappearing people for thought crimes...

FUCK YOU AND FUCK OBAMA!

Come and get me, bitch.
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+1

Who the fuck are they to take away our freedoms? Does the constitution not mean anything anymore?
"And as things fell apart, nobody paid much attention"
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Who the fuck are they to take away our freedoms? Does the constitution not mean anything anymore?
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Obviously, not.
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After reading this, I realized how " ugly" Obama and his administration make me. I never felt this way before, never found myself thinking these things, REALLY. However, if he and his " picks" hate the Constitution so much, then let's get rid of the whole damn thing, not just want THEY want to! I am at this point ALL FOR eliminating the 13th Amendment, then Obama could NOT hold office, instead he would be out picking cotton.

Please, I don't mean this for everyone, JUST OBAMA AND HIS RACIST, NON AMERICAN LOVING CRONIES.
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The Constitution are laws which target the government and so anyone in government who seeks to invalidate them, seeks to end a country ruled by laws and replace it with a country ruled by men!
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See, this is where I think I might be a really bad person and going to hell.

When I see her picture, I think of that movie Something About Mary. Mary's "special" brother was always running around hitting people in the balls and yelling - "Franks and beans, beans and franks"

She looks just like him.

ANYWAY, I can't believe no one took her to Glamor Shots or something to get a decent picture before they started the nomination process.

It's bad.
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I take it back.

She can't help the way she looks.

But...her intellectual philosophies are not worthy of a Supreme Court Justice.
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yeah someone needs to set that overweight woMan down some were. if this Kagan doesn't know how what or why she/he (what ever) is over weight, then interpretation the law of the land is way over their head..
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See, this is where I think I might be a really bad person and going to hell.

When I see her picture, I think of that movie Something About Mary. Mary's "special" brother was always running around hitting people in the balls and yelling - "Franks and beans, beans and franks"

She looks just like him.

ANYWAY, I can't believe no one took her to Glamor Shots or something to get a decent picture before they started the nomination process.

It's bad.

I take it back.

She can't help the way she looks.


But...her intellectual philosophies are not worthy of a Supreme Court Justice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967241


That's BS! she most certainly can correct that obesity!
According to Mishell she's a glutton and there's already to many fat people in this country, why/how they wanna/gonna lift ALL that up? Fork lift? she is a homosexually left winged communist..that's the only reason.
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Hey, Kagan. Here's some speech you won't much like. As far as I know, the 1st Amendment is still in effect, so before you start burning books, and diappearing people for thought crimes...

FUCK YOU AND FUCK OBAMA!

Come and get me, bitch.


+1

Who the fuck are they to take away our freedoms? Does the constitution not mean anything anymore?
 Quoting: dereistic

and 2
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Shes done.

Next.

Watch her nomination sail through Committee and Congress.
We're totally effin' doomed as a country.
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yeah someone needs to set that overweight woMan down some were. if this Kagan doesn't know how what or why she/he (what ever) is over weight, then interpretation the law of the land is way over their head..
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wtf
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That Goddamn fuckin' queer Jew Dyke! That's why it's in the Constitution.
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See, this is where I think I might be a really bad person and going to hell.

When I see her picture, I think of that movie Something About Mary. Mary's "special" brother was always running around hitting people in the balls and yelling - "Franks and beans, beans and franks"

She looks just like him.

ANYWAY, I can't believe no one took her to Glamor Shots or something to get a decent picture before they started the nomination process.

It's bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967241

Since the nomination, her pic has reminded me of someone/thing I know but just couldn't put my finger on it.
I finally realized......my pet PARAKEET!
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Fred Flintstone in drag.
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This is probably now considered treasonous hate speech, but:
"...That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."
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Fred Flintstone in drag.
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Or Nathan Lane.
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Shes done.

Next.

Watch her nomination sail through Committee and Congress.
We're totally effin' doomed as a country.
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Exactly! I don't even think I've heard many complaints about her from anyone except us "peasants."
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That he-she is a piece of work.

Shut up you ugly beaatch.
SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

flatearth
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she can go fuck herself =)
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she can go fuck herself =)
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Probably the only one who will.
"And as things fell apart, nobody paid much attention"
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Is it suppression of free speech to butcher someones comments or change the words someone spoke or wrote to make them read as one needs them to to validate their own point of view? For example, "'racial and gender inequality' could be 'disappeared'". She used the word "disappearance" thus her words were altered. Is it free speech to put words in the mouth of another or to take someones words out of context? Does taking away the right to slander, via court rulings, prohibit free speech? It is a tough call.

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