BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL

It all depends on the final pressures in the oil reserve. BP said they are anywhere from 15,000 psi to 70,000 psi.



That is a very wide gap in the potential pressure. Doesnt BP know how much pressure theyre dealing with? Wouldnt that have been measured before the mishap?


Either way, thats on the order of maximum instantaneous pressure inside a firearm chamber during firing, just to give some perspective. The low end would be around that of a 45 acp and the high end would be that of the highest pressure rifle cartridges. UNREAL! Thats why a weak metal box just aint gonna cut the mustard unless its made of enormous strength.

Okay, how much oil is there?

There is a post with a fact sheet from 2005. It was a professional accounting used by the oil companies to search and plan for new oil drills.

Find it, I'm too busy to search it out just yet. I will find it soon though.

Okay, how much oil is there?

There is a post with a fact sheet from 2005. It was a professional accounting used by the oil companies to search and plan for new oil drills.

Find it, I'm too busy to search it out just yet. I will find it soon though.

Found this PDF from the Minerals Management Service from 2005 which estimates the size of the reserve into which the Deepwater Horizon was drilling:

3,528 million barrels of oil (at 60 degrees F)
8,956 billion cubic feet of gas (at 60 derees F and 15.025 psia)

Page 16: [link to www.gomr.mms.gov]

That's a *lot* of freaking gas. I sure hope the reserve is partitioned...

This seems to apply for a gas release, which is is more influenced to pressure and temperature than a much less compressible oil.

Yes/No?

UPDATE: Two individuals applied their own formulas to the data variables. Conclusion was the same. This is enough evidence to hold weight in court.

We are facing these figures as authentic oil flow.

Skeptical? Completely understood! Do the math yourself and you will see.

END UPDATES

It seems crazy but I have to show you guys.

I will include all data and tools used to get to this conclusion.

Flow Calculator
[link to www.pipeflowcalculations.com]

Data
L = Length of pipe from seafloor to oil = 9,754 meters
D = Diameter of pipe = 914 mm to 215 mm
note - standard diameters for oil drilling, lowest value is used due to depth.
P1 = Pressure in oil reserve = 15,000 psi to 70,000 psi
P2 = Pressure at release point = 2,000 psi
P1-P2 = Pressure difference in transit = 13,000 to 68,000 psi
T = Temperature of oil in reserve = 633*K
note - 35,000 feet is averaged at 360*C
Q = Volumetric Flow Rate
G = Mass Flow Rate
rho = Density of oil = 924 kg/m3

The Calculators Results

70k PSI in Oil Reserve
Q = 352,259 m3/hr
G = 3.25487872E+008 kg/h = 325,487,872 kg/h = 116,301,122 gal/hr

15k PSI in Oil Reserve
Q = 64,210 m3/hr
G = 5.9330372E+007 kg/h = 59,330,372 kg/h = 21,199,527 gal/hr

Conclusion
21 to 116 million gallons per hour

This is mathematical fact and all variables are sound and factual. Please try to debunk this!

I hope I am wrong but I would like others to calculate themselves.

You mean this?

Thread: 8,956 BILLION CUIC FEET OF GAS etimated to be in Mississippi Canyon Block 252!!!!!!!!!!!!


Found this PDF from the Minerals Management Service from 2005 which estimates the size of the reserve into which the Deepwater Horizon was drilling:

3,528 million barrels of oil (at 60 degrees F)
8,956 billion cubic feet of gas (at 60 derees F and 15.025 psia)

Page 16: [link to www.gomr.mms.gov]

That's a *lot* of freaking gas. I sure hope the reserve is partitioned...

There isn't enough oil to spill at that rate.


Are you stupid or something?

Well..

In a report from BP in 2009 I read "1 billion barrels of useable oil" Later in that report I read "Likely over 4 billion barrels of oil"

Take the higher estimate of 4 billion barrels.. x 42 for gallons (US) 168 billion gallons of oil.

Even at 480 million gal a day that would take 340+ days to empty.

Although I can't realistically see it at 480 million gallons a day. 2 million gallons an hour could be more appropriate, but still doesn't sound right, so I'll settle at 5% for 24 million gallons a day but even that is over 570000 barrels a day.

UPDATE: Two individuals applied their own formulas to the data variables. Conclusion was the same. This is enough evidence to hold weight in court.

We are facing these figures as authentic oil flow.

Skeptical? Completely understood! Do the math yourself and you will see.

END UPDATES

It seems crazy but I have to show you guys.

I will include all data and tools used to get to this conclusion.

Flow Calculator
[link to www.pipeflowcalculations.com]

Data
L = Length of pipe from seafloor to oil = 9,754 meters
D = Diameter of pipe = 914 mm to 215 mm
note - standard diameters for oil drilling, lowest value is used due to depth.
P1 = Pressure in oil reserve = 15,000 psi to 70,000 psi
P2 = Pressure at release point = 2,000 psi
P1-P2 = Pressure difference in transit = 13,000 to 68,000 psi
T = Temperature of oil in reserve = 633*K
note - 35,000 feet is averaged at 360*C
Q = Volumetric Flow Rate
G = Mass Flow Rate
rho = Density of oil = 924 kg/m3

The Calculators Results

70k PSI in Oil Reserve
Q = 352,259 m3/hr
G = 3.25487872E+008 kg/h = 325,487,872 kg/h = 116,301,122 gal/hr

15k PSI in Oil Reserve
Q = 64,210 m3/hr
G = 5.9330372E+007 kg/h = 59,330,372 kg/h = 21,199,527 gal/hr

Conclusion
21 to 116 million gallons per hour

This is mathematical fact and all variables are sound and factual. Please try to debunk this!

I hope I am wrong but I would like others to calculate themselves.

Your temp is a mistake, also did you take friction loss into account - there is always friction losses in pipe flow - this reduces the flow rate (Q) and the nozzle pressure (the well head would be analogous to a nozzle in this case).

As I said, there isn't enough oil to spill at this rate.

UPDATE: Two individuals applied their own formulas to the data variables. Conclusion was the same. This is enough evidence to hold weight in court.

We are facing these figures as authentic oil flow.

Skeptical? Completely understood! Do the math yourself and you will see.

END UPDATES

It seems crazy but I have to show you guys.

I will include all data and tools used to get to this conclusion.

Flow Calculator
[link to www.pipeflowcalculations.com]

Data
L = Length of pipe from seafloor to oil = 9,754 meters
D = Diameter of pipe = 914 mm to 215 mm
note - standard diameters for oil drilling, lowest value is used due to depth.
P1 = Pressure in oil reserve = 15,000 psi to 70,000 psi
P2 = Pressure at release point = 2,000 psi
P1-P2 = Pressure difference in transit = 13,000 to 68,000 psi
T = Temperature of oil in reserve = 633*K
note - 35,000 feet is averaged at 360*C
Q = Volumetric Flow Rate
G = Mass Flow Rate
rho = Density of oil = 924 kg/m3

The Calculators Results

70k PSI in Oil Reserve
Q = 352,259 m3/hr
G = 3.25487872E+008 kg/h = 325,487,872 kg/h = 116,301,122 gal/hr

15k PSI in Oil Reserve
Q = 64,210 m3/hr
G = 5.9330372E+007 kg/h = 59,330,372 kg/h = 21,199,527 gal/hr

Conclusion
21 to 116 million gallons per hour

This is mathematical fact and all variables are sound and factual. Please try to debunk this!

I hope I am wrong but I would like others to calculate themselves.

Your temp is a mistake, also did you take friction loss into account - there is always friction losses in pipe flow - this reduces the flow rate (Q) and the nozzle pressure (the well head would be analogous to a nozzle in this case).

360*C is a solid average for 35,000 feet below sea level.

360*C = 633*K

[link to www.onlineconversion.com]

Friction loss, you tell me. I used a calculator that is employed by professionals.

Again everyone, provide your own calculations and details. Otherwise the results remain undebunked.

not mocking at all- in fact I enjoyed this post..
The temperature given for the 35,000 foot depth of the deposit (?) is 360C - which is 3 times + the boiling point of water. I am not a geologist, not sure if that is an accurate assumption.

I'm at a loss. YOU show me the math.

I still can't see a tanker truck of oil per second coming out of this thing... there's no chance any equipment down there would survive that. It would have to be a complete blow out.

Did you read the PDF?

2,854 million barrels over 30 proved and 10 unproved fields = 71.35 million barrels per field average.

BP spokesman: "tens of millions of barrels" in reserves.

You: 11.4 million barrels a day

I'm at a loss. YOU show me the math.

BP spokesman: "tens of millions of barrels" in reserves.

You: 11.4 million barrels a day

I'm at a loss. YOU show me the math.


YOU: 21 - 110 million gallons an hour or 11.4 - 62 million barrels a day

Oil reserves:
2,854 million barrels over 30 proved and 10 unproved fields = 71.35 million barrels per field average.
BP spokesman: "tens of millions of barrels" in reserves.

It's been leaking for over 20 days. How do you get 200 -1240 million gallons of oil out of a "tens of millions of barrels" field?

I would say you're debunked.

It's been leaking for over 20 days. How do you get 200 -1240 million gallons of oil out of a "tens of millions of barrels" field?

I still can't see a tanker truck of oil per second coming out of this thing... there's no chance any equipment down there would survive that. It would have to be a complete blow out.

You mean this?

Thread: 8,956 BILLION CUIC FEET OF GAS etimated to be in Mississippi Canyon Block 252!!!!!!!!!!!!


Found this PDF from the Minerals Management Service from 2005 which estimates the size of the reserve into which the Deepwater Horizon was drilling:

3,528 million barrels of oil (at 60 degrees F)
8,956 billion cubic feet of gas (at 60 derees F and 15.025 psia)

Page 16: [link to www.gomr.mms.gov]

That's a *lot* of freaking gas. I sure hope the reserve is partitioned...


Yeah, thats it, thanks!

3,528,000,000 barrels of oil
148,176,000,000 gallons of oil

At 480 million gallons a day, it would take 308 days to empty or equalize pressures.

I thought it was leaking from the seabed itself. How do you calculate that if its leaking from the sea floor?

UPDATE: Two individuals applied their own formulas to the data variables. Conclusion was the same. This is enough evidence to hold weight in court.

We are facing these figures as authentic oil flow.

Skeptical? Completely understood! Do the math yourself and you will see.

END UPDATES

It seems crazy but I have to show you guys.

I will include all data and tools used to get to this conclusion.

Flow Calculator
[link to www.pipeflowcalculations.com]

Data
L = Length of pipe from seafloor to oil = 9,754 meters
D = Diameter of pipe = 914 mm to 215 mm
note - standard diameters for oil drilling, lowest value is used due to depth.
P1 = Pressure in oil reserve = 15,000 psi to 70,000 psi
P2 = Pressure at release point = 2,000 psi
P1-P2 = Pressure difference in transit = 13,000 to 68,000 psi
T = Temperature of oil in reserve = 633*K
note - 35,000 feet is averaged at 360*C
Q = Volumetric Flow Rate
G = Mass Flow Rate
rho = Density of oil = 924 kg/m3

The Calculators Results

70k PSI in Oil Reserve
Q = 352,259 m3/hr
G = 3.25487872E+008 kg/h = 325,487,872 kg/h = 116,301,122 gal/hr

15k PSI in Oil Reserve
Q = 64,210 m3/hr
G = 5.9330372E+007 kg/h = 59,330,372 kg/h = 21,199,527 gal/hr

Conclusion
21 to 116 million gallons per hour

This is mathematical fact and all variables are sound and factual. Please try to debunk this!

I hope I am wrong but I would like others to calculate themselves.